CAC tried to bring Christianity to North sentinel Island...
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I get that. You're probably not who I'm talking about. You can tell who my statement applies to by the type of comments made. Not all of em are, probably not yours. He's an Asian Christian fool. But now, with his body there, they may run the risk of getting diseases they can't deal with and guess who will have to save them because they don't know germ theory? The Indian govt. Same one that is protecting them and they don't even know it.
Because only a idiot would keep going somewhere he is not wanted and after being threatened with death still tried to go to that place, and what do we do to idiots, we laugh at them
I was like huh. I’ve been reading your comments in here @exiledking and you really think these people owe the government over there a big thank you for not fucking with them. Like even though we are over here minding our business and not bothering anybody we wanna thank you for not bothering us
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A Man’s Last Letter Before Being Killed on a Forbidden Island
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John Allen Chau, 26, of Washington State loved climbing mountains, camping, hiking, canoeing and seeing the world.Creditvia Reuters
By Jeffrey Gettleman, Hari Kumar and Kai Schultz
“You guys might think I’m crazy in all this,” he wrote in a last letter to his parents. “But I think it’s worth it to declare Jesus to these people.”
Part letter, part journal, in 13 pages with many cross-outs and messy scrawl, Mr. Chau laid out a disturbing account of his final days on North Sentinel Island in the Andaman Sea east of India.
He tried to give gifts. A boy shot an arrow at him. He expressed fear, fatalism, frustration and some humor.
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The people Mr. Chau chose for his mission are among the most impenetrable communities in the world, known for their intense hostility to outsiders. They have killed or tried to kill many outsiders who attempted to step on their rugged island 700 miles off India’s mainland, where they are one of the last undiluted hunter and gatherer societies.
On Friday, Indian police officials shared Mr. Chau’s last writing, part of which has been published by other news organizations over the past two days.
North Sentinel Island is a far-flung territory of India, and for years the Indian authorities have declared it off limits in an attempt to preserve its culture. The Indian Navy patrols the waters around it, making sure no one gets close.
But that didn’t stop Mr. Chau.
[The islanders that killed John Allen Chau have a history of guarding their isolation.]
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Last week, he paid some fishermen to take him to the island. He set off from Port Blair, the Andaman chain’s main port, under the cover of darkness.
“The Milky Way was above and God Himself was shielding us from the Coast Guard and Navy patrols,” he wrote.
Mr. Chau, 26, from Washington State, was an ambitious adventurer. He loved climbing mountains, camping in isolated places, hiking, canoeing, seeing the world.
A graduate of Oral Roberts University, he was fixated on spreading Christianity to North Sentinel, telling friends he had been working for years to make the right contacts.
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It seems that he was working on his own and that no large organization had sent him. For this mission, he made sure to take his waterproof Bible.
Image
A tribesman aimed his bow and arrow at an Indian Coast Guard helicopter as it flew over North Sentinel Island in 2004.CreditIndian Coast Guard, via Agence France-Presse — Getty Images
But the fishermen refused to land him on North Sentinel. The last fishermen who accidentally drifted ashore, in 2006, were killed.
So Mr. Chau arranged for the boat to take him close and then jumped in a kayak and paddled in. His first moments didn’t go so well.
“Two armed Sentinelese came rushing out yelling,” he wrote in the letter. “They had two arrows each, unstrung, until they got closer. I hollered, ‘My name is John, I love you and Jesus loves you.’ ”
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He gave them some fish, but the islanders kept coming toward him: “I turned and paddled like I never have in my life,” he said.
“I felt some fear but mainly was disappointed,” he admitted. “They didn’t accept me right away.”
Mr. Chau was trying to accomplish the impossible. The people on North Sentinel have not accepted anyone outside their society. Anthropologists, filmmakers and government officials have tried to approach them. Just about all have been driven back by bows and arrows.
Some years ago, a few anthropologists managed to give the islanders some coconuts, but that was about the extent of the contact.
North Sentinel Island: A Glimpse Into PrehistoryVIDEO BY DALE ANDREWS
The North Sentinel people have sealed themselves off from the modern world. They hunt turtles and pigs, wear loincloths and live in huts. Beyond that, very little is known.
ADVERTISEMENT
In the late 19th century, a British naval officer working in the Andamans was so intrigued that he basically kidnapped several islanders. Some soon died, and the officer later wrote that his experiment had failed.
Anthropologists have struggled to decode their language and their history. The best guesses are that for centuries they have lived alone on their island, about the size of Manhattan, thick with forests and ringed by beautiful white sand beaches.
Anthropologists say the islanders’ ancestors possibly migrated from Africa more than a thousand years ago.
ADVERTISEMENT
The population size? Estimates range from 50 to 100, but no one really knows.
Indian officials say any contact with the islanders could wipe out their culture and possibly even their existence since their immune systems may be no match for modern microbes.
Indian policy is to keep North Sentinel and a few other islands in the archipelago totally isolated, with no school, aid, development or government services.
Mr. Chau hoped to break through. He took a careful selection of gifts: scissors, safety pins, fishing line and a soccer ball.
But the people seemed variously amused, hostile and perplexed by his presence, he wrote.
He described a man wearing a white crown possibly made of flowers taking a “leadership stance” by standing atop the tallest coral rock on the beach.
ADVERTISEMENT
The man yelled, and Mr. Chau tried to respond, singing some worship songs and yelling back something in Xhosa, a language he apparently knew a few words of from when he coached soccer in South Africa a few years ago.
“They would often fall silent after this,” he wrote. Other efforts to communicate with tribe members ended with their bursting out in laughter.
Encounters became more fraught. When Mr. Chau tried to hand over fish and a bundle of gifts, a boy shot an arrow “directly into my Bible which I was holding.”
ADVERTISEMENT
“I grabbed the arrow shaft as it broke in my Bible and felt the arrow head,” he said. “It was metal, thin but very sharp.”
Mr. Chau stumbled back and shouted at the boy.
Over the next two days, Mr. Chau paddled back and forth in his kayak between the fishing boat and the island, unsure what to do.
At times personal and open, at other times colder and more scientific, his long letter is filled with cultural observations, directions, distances, raw feelings and details from his exercise regimen (3 X 20 push-ups, 50 leg tucks, 20 wide push-ups, 20 squats).
The fishermen said he had told them to give the letter to a friend, in case he did not come back.
In one passage, he asked God if North Sentinel was “Satan’s last stronghold.” In another: “What makes them become this defensive and hostile?”
ADVERTISEMENT
“It’s weird — actually no, it’s natural: I’m scared,” Mr. Chau wrote. “There, I said it. Also frustrated and uncertain — is it worth me going a foot to meet them?”
He added, “I don’t want to die!”
Still, he went back.
On the afternoon of Nov. 16, the fishermen told police officers, Mr. Chau reassured them that he would be fine staying on the island overnight and that the fishermen could go. They motored out, leaving Mr. Chau alone for the first time.
When they passed by the island the next morning, they saw the islanders dragging his body on the beach with a rope.
No one knows what exactly happened. Police officials said the islanders most likely killed him with bows and arrows.
ADVERTISEMENT
Mr. Chau’s body is still on the island, but several police officers said they were worried about retrieving it, lest the same thing happen to them.
The police have flown helicopters overhead but not set foot on shore.
Before setting off that final day, Mr. Chau finished his note with a message to his family.
The handwriting gets sloppier, the lines more crooked.
“Please do not be angry at them or at God if I get killed,” he wrote.
“I love you all.”
John Chau
Jeffrey Gettleman reported from Ranthambore, India, and Hari Kumar and Kai Schultz from New Delhi.
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A Man’s Last Letter Before Being Killed on a Forbidden Island
Image
John Allen Chau, 26, of Washington State loved climbing mountains, camping, hiking, canoeing and seeing the world.Creditvia Reuters
By Jeffrey Gettleman, Hari Kumar and Kai Schultz
- Nov. 23, 2018
“You guys might think I’m crazy in all this,” he wrote in a last letter to his parents. “But I think it’s worth it to declare Jesus to these people.”
Part letter, part journal, in 13 pages with many cross-outs and messy scrawl, Mr. Chau laid out a disturbing account of his final days on North Sentinel Island in the Andaman Sea east of India.
He tried to give gifts. A boy shot an arrow at him. He expressed fear, fatalism, frustration and some humor.
ADVERTISEMENT
The people Mr. Chau chose for his mission are among the most impenetrable communities in the world, known for their intense hostility to outsiders. They have killed or tried to kill many outsiders who attempted to step on their rugged island 700 miles off India’s mainland, where they are one of the last undiluted hunter and gatherer societies.
On Friday, Indian police officials shared Mr. Chau’s last writing, part of which has been published by other news organizations over the past two days.
North Sentinel Island is a far-flung territory of India, and for years the Indian authorities have declared it off limits in an attempt to preserve its culture. The Indian Navy patrols the waters around it, making sure no one gets close.
But that didn’t stop Mr. Chau.
[The islanders that killed John Allen Chau have a history of guarding their isolation.]
ADVERTISEMENT
Last week, he paid some fishermen to take him to the island. He set off from Port Blair, the Andaman chain’s main port, under the cover of darkness.
“The Milky Way was above and God Himself was shielding us from the Coast Guard and Navy patrols,” he wrote.
Mr. Chau, 26, from Washington State, was an ambitious adventurer. He loved climbing mountains, camping in isolated places, hiking, canoeing, seeing the world.
A graduate of Oral Roberts University, he was fixated on spreading Christianity to North Sentinel, telling friends he had been working for years to make the right contacts.
ADVERTISEMENT
It seems that he was working on his own and that no large organization had sent him. For this mission, he made sure to take his waterproof Bible.
Image
A tribesman aimed his bow and arrow at an Indian Coast Guard helicopter as it flew over North Sentinel Island in 2004.CreditIndian Coast Guard, via Agence France-Presse — Getty Images
But the fishermen refused to land him on North Sentinel. The last fishermen who accidentally drifted ashore, in 2006, were killed.
So Mr. Chau arranged for the boat to take him close and then jumped in a kayak and paddled in. His first moments didn’t go so well.
“Two armed Sentinelese came rushing out yelling,” he wrote in the letter. “They had two arrows each, unstrung, until they got closer. I hollered, ‘My name is John, I love you and Jesus loves you.’ ”
ADVERTISEMENT
He gave them some fish, but the islanders kept coming toward him: “I turned and paddled like I never have in my life,” he said.
“I felt some fear but mainly was disappointed,” he admitted. “They didn’t accept me right away.”
Mr. Chau was trying to accomplish the impossible. The people on North Sentinel have not accepted anyone outside their society. Anthropologists, filmmakers and government officials have tried to approach them. Just about all have been driven back by bows and arrows.
Some years ago, a few anthropologists managed to give the islanders some coconuts, but that was about the extent of the contact.
North Sentinel Island: A Glimpse Into PrehistoryVIDEO BY DALE ANDREWS
The North Sentinel people have sealed themselves off from the modern world. They hunt turtles and pigs, wear loincloths and live in huts. Beyond that, very little is known.
ADVERTISEMENT
In the late 19th century, a British naval officer working in the Andamans was so intrigued that he basically kidnapped several islanders. Some soon died, and the officer later wrote that his experiment had failed.
Anthropologists have struggled to decode their language and their history. The best guesses are that for centuries they have lived alone on their island, about the size of Manhattan, thick with forests and ringed by beautiful white sand beaches.
Anthropologists say the islanders’ ancestors possibly migrated from Africa more than a thousand years ago.
ADVERTISEMENT
The population size? Estimates range from 50 to 100, but no one really knows.
Indian officials say any contact with the islanders could wipe out their culture and possibly even their existence since their immune systems may be no match for modern microbes.
Indian policy is to keep North Sentinel and a few other islands in the archipelago totally isolated, with no school, aid, development or government services.
Mr. Chau hoped to break through. He took a careful selection of gifts: scissors, safety pins, fishing line and a soccer ball.
But the people seemed variously amused, hostile and perplexed by his presence, he wrote.
He described a man wearing a white crown possibly made of flowers taking a “leadership stance” by standing atop the tallest coral rock on the beach.
ADVERTISEMENT
The man yelled, and Mr. Chau tried to respond, singing some worship songs and yelling back something in Xhosa, a language he apparently knew a few words of from when he coached soccer in South Africa a few years ago.
“They would often fall silent after this,” he wrote. Other efforts to communicate with tribe members ended with their bursting out in laughter.
Encounters became more fraught. When Mr. Chau tried to hand over fish and a bundle of gifts, a boy shot an arrow “directly into my Bible which I was holding.”
ADVERTISEMENT
“I grabbed the arrow shaft as it broke in my Bible and felt the arrow head,” he said. “It was metal, thin but very sharp.”
Mr. Chau stumbled back and shouted at the boy.
Over the next two days, Mr. Chau paddled back and forth in his kayak between the fishing boat and the island, unsure what to do.
At times personal and open, at other times colder and more scientific, his long letter is filled with cultural observations, directions, distances, raw feelings and details from his exercise regimen (3 X 20 push-ups, 50 leg tucks, 20 wide push-ups, 20 squats).
The fishermen said he had told them to give the letter to a friend, in case he did not come back.
In one passage, he asked God if North Sentinel was “Satan’s last stronghold.” In another: “What makes them become this defensive and hostile?”
ADVERTISEMENT
“It’s weird — actually no, it’s natural: I’m scared,” Mr. Chau wrote. “There, I said it. Also frustrated and uncertain — is it worth me going a foot to meet them?”
He added, “I don’t want to die!”
Still, he went back.
On the afternoon of Nov. 16, the fishermen told police officers, Mr. Chau reassured them that he would be fine staying on the island overnight and that the fishermen could go. They motored out, leaving Mr. Chau alone for the first time.
When they passed by the island the next morning, they saw the islanders dragging his body on the beach with a rope.
No one knows what exactly happened. Police officials said the islanders most likely killed him with bows and arrows.
ADVERTISEMENT
Mr. Chau’s body is still on the island, but several police officers said they were worried about retrieving it, lest the same thing happen to them.
The police have flown helicopters overhead but not set foot on shore.
Before setting off that final day, Mr. Chau finished his note with a message to his family.
The handwriting gets sloppier, the lines more crooked.
“Please do not be angry at them or at God if I get killed,” he wrote.
“I love you all.”
John Chau
Jeffrey Gettleman reported from Ranthambore, India, and Hari Kumar and Kai Schultz from New Delhi.
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White people will not be happy until every culture,living thing and etc is destroyed....
I wonder did he think by them killing him people would protest and force the government to go in there and that would open up the island for other missionaries
It was posted earlier in the thread: Maurice Vidal Portman in the late 1800s
Didn't we have a a few MILLION MAN Marches? Were they effective? You may want to tell that to the Honorables and put it in their suggestion box.I love the Bean Pies especially from Chicago, despite the WHITE Sugar and WHITE Flour
You GODDAM self hating stupid nigga and coon ass possum! We use BROWN sugar with YELLOW cakemix when makin bean pies, you poke chop sammich eatin somabitch!
I find no fault in their actions.
Welcome back
LOL.. I buy my bean pies at or in front of the number 7 mosque in Harlem, New York.. I've read the ingredients... But Hmmm.. nuthin said about the video huh? You are quick to call me a nigga for someone follows the Honorable Elijah Muhammad. I'm done.You GODDAM self hating stupid nigga and coon ass possum! We use BROWN sugar with YELLOW cakemix when makin bean pies, you poke chop sammich eatin somabitch!
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He's not Asian. He's an American white guy.
Hs's Asian. An American Asian
They don't owe em a "thank you" for not fucking with em. They owe em a thank you for making it so no one else goes over there and honoring the killing of a person for just coming there. These yokels don't have their own muscle to enforce shit. Bows and arrows ain'T gonna cut it. So yeah, they owe India for providing them with sovereignty.
He is a Hafa. A Half asian demon and half white devil. Which makes him a halfling, a cacc'd-asian demidevilmon.
I am calling you that for your display of ignorance my son. But I am here to free you from that and teach you the truth, that the white man is the devil and to convoit you to islam as taught by the Honorable Elijah Muhammad. You are a child of the ghetto and are thus still influenced by the white man devil. i didnt mean to hoit your feelings, my child, but you are lost. But that's ok. We can find you, just as the Honorable Elijah Muhammad found me in a prison cell with two female guards, behaving like a sex crazed animal. After he told me that I could have as many as 4 wives as a mooslum and 7 wives as a hebrew israelite in the tribe of judah, I ran to join him and follow his teachings. He freed me from the prison of my mind, and some dynamite helped me escape the prison for my body. As for the bean pie, As for the ingredients, you have been eatin the devil's bean pies. I can teach you the right ingredients to put in your bean pie. in the nation of Islam we use nutmeg, just what the messenger told Bane to give Malcolm in prison.
Have a good nite
No, they function as a a tribe who has willingly cut themselves off from the outside world. They have no use for your racial identity labels of white, black or whatever.
What makes you different from this poor sucker who tried to pull up on them? He wanted to teach them about Jesus. You want them to know they black, and therefore victims of white supremacy (like that information would be of ANY use to their day to day lives).
He has a white parent and an Asian parent. He was going around trying to force Christianity on people the same thing Europeans did in Asia. Basically he is out doing the white people shit even though he is part Asian too.
White supremacy is their religion. They learned this from Tariq, who made a whole movie about it. He prolly learned that from his white mother in law who is also a missionary. You're right, Kefta wants to spread this religion to these weirdos. I hope he goes there to try to spread his religion in person. It of course, he's only talking about this shit online. At his job, he's ya suh bawsin it up
They don't need to know that they are black from me. I never knew that I was black until I came into contact with racist man and racist woman. Black as a political classification. They have been in contact with white people to some extent and white folks have treated them as such. The focus here is white people. Some people in Africa do not known that they are in Africa but that still does not stop the racist man and racist woman from dominating Africa. These communities are not new to white people but to many black people.
That information would be of use to them in that sooner or later, the racist man and racist woman can move in on them. The existence of racism / white supremacy as a dominant oppressive system applies not only to one individual or group of people. It applies everywhere. White people have not yet seen or found an incentive to move in on isolated communities. Most of the resources and black people that they need for their daily mistreatment is in Africa, the Americas, etc.
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No not from Tareq.
Again, your premise is wrong. I asked you, if they are to leave their space and move to Amerikkka, what would they function as?
I see color. I see culture more.Folks acting like the national, global and local system of racism / white supremacy starts to exist at the point one acknowledges that they are either white or black or non-white... Jokes
I don't see color
Do you see what you typed? White supremacy really is your religion
At least Christianity offers hope and faith.
Do you see what you typed? White supremacy really is your religion
At least Christianity offers hope and faith.
Racism / white supremacy is the religion of all the white people that believe in and practice racism / white supremacy. It is the most powerful and oppressive religion on the universe.
Quote me.
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Ok. What is culture?