CAMRON says he prefers to use the term Black American over African American because "Africans don't even f**k with us."

[geechiedan]

White 100% agree. Black is debatable. The word negro translates to black in English. So we would have to trace that word back. But there also was no Africa back then either. That wasn’t renamed till later.
But what we would call “white” now would be the Greeks who ruled the last empire.

Unless you can find some ancient text where the dark complected people in that region were referred to as black specifically and even then the context of that reference would have to be understood.

But we should understand that even if they used the term it would not be used in the same way it's used today.

All of our understanding of the world is not only within the last 500 years but also western culture and eurocentric based that includes our conditioning on the concept of race and history and how we all think of it.

You can't take a concept developed 500 years ago and apply it to a culture from 5000 years ago.

 

[footloose]

Unless you can find some ancient text where the dark complected people in that region were referred to as black specifically and even then the context of that reference would have to be understood.

But we should understand that even if they used the term it would not be used in the same way it's used today.

All of our understanding of the world is not only within the last 500 years but also western culture and eurocentric based that includes our conditioning on the concept of race and history and how we all think of it.

You can't take a concept developed 500 years ago and apply it to a culture from 5000 years ago.

the term negroe is used in the Bible. Which is way over 500 years old. I believe 3000 years old

 

[geechiedan]

the term negroe is used in the Bible. Which is way over 500 years old. I believe 3000 years old

THE
SONG OF SOLOMON
CHAPTER 1

5 I am black, but comely, O ye daughters of Jerusalem, as the tents of Kedar, as the curtains of Solomon.

6 Look not upon me, because I am black, because the sun hath looked upon me: my mother’s children were angry with me; they made me the keeper of the vineyards; but mine own vineyard have I not kept.

again context and mindset matters... clearly he's talking about a sun tan...those lines dont have the connotations of black as in race since race wasnt a thing at that time.

 

[footloose]

THE
SONG OF SOLOMON
CHAPTER 1

5 I am black, but comely, O ye daughters of Jerusalem, as the tents of Kedar, as the curtains of Solomon.

6 Look not upon me, because I am black, because the sun hath looked upon me: my mother’s children were angry with me; they made me the keeper of the vineyards; but mine own vineyard have I not kept.

again context and mindset matters... clearly he's talking about a sun tan...those lines dont have the connotations of black as in race since race wasnt a thing at that time.

question before I go further on this. Are you arguing who the kemetians are or are you just arguing the term black isolated from my point I made earlier? I just want to be clear on how I’m going to answer you in this

And ps. That was not the scripture I had.

Act 13:1 - Now there were in the church that was at Antioch certainprophets and teachers; as Barnabas,and Simeon that was called Niger, andLucius of Cyrene, and Manaen, which had been brought up with Herod the tetrarch, and Saul.

G3526 - niger - Strong's Greek Lexicon (kjv)

G3526 - Νίγερ Níger, neeg'-er; of Latin origin; black; Niger, a Christian:—Niger.

www.blueletterbible.org

 

[mangobob79]

Pyramids vs bibles reality vs fiction

 

[footloose]

Pyramids vs bibles reality vs fiction

The arguement is if a certain term was used back then. Not if the Bible is true. Fall back. You out your league on this one.

 

[mangobob79]

The arguement is if a certain term was used back then. Not if the Bible is true. Fall back. You out your league on this one.

who wrote the Bible who built the Pyramids?

 

[footloose]

who wrote the Bible who built the Pyramids?

Are you talking about who wrote the Hebrew Bible

 

[geechiedan]

question before I go further on this. Are you arguing who the kemetians are or are you just arguing the term black isolated from my point I made earlier? I just want to be clear on how I’m going to answer you in this

And ps. That was not the scripture I had.

Act 13:1 - Now there were in the church that was at Antioch certainprophets and teachers; as Barnabas,and Simeon that was called Niger, andLucius of Cyrene, and Manaen, which had been brought up with Herod the tetrarch, and Saul.

G3526 - niger - Strong's Greek Lexicon (kjv)

G3526 - Νίγερ Níger, neeg'-er; of Latin origin; black; Niger, a Christian:—Niger.

www.blueletterbible.org

clearly there are people from all over the continent in the bible...at least from the north to the east I'm not disputing that...what I am disputing is applying the concept of race to those peoples.

 

[mangobob79]

Are you talking about who wrote the Hebrew Bible

is the bible real history of real people? what was the original language it was written in or rather the various books scattered across all over & gathered & chosen to be complied into te BIBLE while others were discarded ?

 

[mangobob79]

If you don’t write the laws prepare for a lifetime of insults.
Ps. Africa was named by a white person as well as most countries in Africa aside of Ethiopia. Egypt was originally kemet.

Name them. I like to learn

The real ai says

The names of most African countries are remnants of colonialism. The concept of nation states in Africa is only a bit over a century old, arising after the 1884 Berlin Conference and the subsequent Scramble for Africa by European superpowers.

again I asked u to name the MOST AFRICAN COUNTRIES that were named by White people.. u still haven't named the MOST as u claimed

I know u love regurgitating braindead FBA ADOS xenophobic ideology but ill make it easier for u here's a list of African countries , now name the amount which will constitute as the MOST that were named by white people

0: Algeria


1: Angola


2: Benin


3: Botswana


4: Burkina Faso


5: Burundi


6: Cabo Verde


7: Cameroon


8: Central African Republic


9: Chad


10: Congo-Kinshasa the Democratic Republic of the Congo


11: Congo Brazzaville Republic of the Congo


12: Cote d'Ivoire


13: Djibouti


14: Egypt


15: Equatorial Guinea


16: Eritrea


17: Ethiopia


18: Gabon


19: The Gambia


20: Ghana


21: Guinea


22: Guinea-Bissau


23: Kenya


24: Lesotho


25: Liberia


26: Libya


27: Madagascar


28: Malawi


29: Mali


30: Mauritania


31: Mauritius


32: Morocco


33: Mozambique


34: Namibia


35: Niger


36: Nigeria


37: Rwanda


38: Sao Tome and Principe


39: Senegal


40: Seychelles


41: Sierra Leone


42: Somalia


43: South Africa


44: South Sudan


45: eSwatini (Swaziland)


46: Tanzania


47: Togo


48: Tunisia


49: Uganda


50: Zambia


51: Zimbabwe

 

[footloose]

clearly there are people from all over the continent in the bible...at least from the north to the east I'm not disputing that...what I am disputing is applying the concept of race to those peoples.

no that concept was not used back then. They were grouped as nations. And those nations back then would now be known as Greeks(white) kemetians (black or African)

 

[Darkness's]

There were no " black or white" people in those times.

People were identified by their nation of their tribe.

 

[Darkness's]

I thought about this yesterday. Even though the African American thing was made up by Jesse Jackson and Africa is a continent not a country I still would rather identify afro American and not a color that they labeled us. If people from abroad can identify as European American or Asian American then why not African American. Before black we were considered negro from slavery. The word negro comes from the Greek necros meaning dead or an object because we were considered no more than property. For me to consider myself black is basically saying I'm an object, product or livestock instead of a human being.

 

[footloose]

again I asked u to name the MOST AFRICAN COUNTRIES that were named by White people.. u still haven't named the MOST as u claimed

I know u love regurgitating braindead FBA ADOS xenophobic ideology but ill make it easier for u here's a list of African countries , now name the amount which will constitute as the MOST that were named by white people

0: Algeria


1: Angola


2: Benin


3: Botswana


4: Burkina Faso


5: Burundi


6: Cabo Verde


7: Cameroon


8: Central African Republic


9: Chad


10: Congo-Kinshasa the Democratic Republic of the Congo


11: Congo Brazzaville Republic of the Congo


12: Cote d'Ivoire


13: Djibouti


14: Egypt


15: Equatorial Guinea


16: Eritrea


17: Ethiopia


18: Gabon


19: The Gambia


20: Ghana


21: Guinea


22: Guinea-Bissau


23: Kenya


24: Lesotho


25: Liberia


26: Libya


27: Madagascar


28: Malawi


29: Mali


30: Mauritania


31: Mauritius


32: Morocco


33: Mozambique


34: Namibia


35: Niger


36: Nigeria


37: Rwanda


38: Sao Tome and Principe


39: Senegal


40: Seychelles


41: Sierra Leone


42: Somalia


43: South Africa


44: South Sudan


45: eSwatini (Swaziland)


46: Tanzania


47: Togo


48: Tunisia


49: Uganda


50: Zambia


51: Zimbabwe

Did you just name the countries named by white people

 

[mangobob79]

Did you just name the countries named by white people

name the MOST countries named by white people... go ahead , I made it easy for u , u got the list

 

[footloose]

I thought about this yesterday. Even though the African American thing was made up by Jesse Jackson and Africa is a continent not a country I still would rather identify afro American and not a color that they labeled us. If people from abroad can identify as European American or Asian American then why not African American. Before black we were considered negro from slavery. The word negro comes from the Greek necros meaning dead or an object because we were considered no more than property. For me to consider myself black is basically saying I'm an object, product or livestock instead of a human being.

Where do you get that relation from

 

[Darkness's]

Where do you get that relation from

Look it up.

 

[footloose]

name the MOST countries named by white people... go ahead , I made it easy for u , u got the list

The origins of the names of African countries can be traced to:

• Portuguese and Arabic traders and explorers
• European mispronunciation of tribal names
• Colonizers who identified them based on what they could exploit from the region or even, rather audaciously, who ruled it
  

Here are some examples of how African countries got their names:

• Cameroon
  A Portuguese explorer in the 15th century renamed the Wouri river, one of Cameroon's largest rivers, to Rio dos Camarões (shrimp river)
• 
  Northern Sudan
  The name derives from the Arabic words bilad as Sudan apparently meaning Land Of Those who are Dark
• Algeria
  The country is named after its capital of Algiers
• Angola
  The name is a Portuguese corruption of the Native term of ungola which was a title

 

[footloose]

Look it up.

Doesn’t work like that bruh. You make a claim. You back it up and stand on it with sources like everyone else. Ain’t nobody working for you

 

[Darkness's]

Doesn’t work like that bruh. You make a claim. You back it up and stand on it with sources like everyone else. Ain’t nobody working for you

Trinicenter.com - Dr. Kwame Nantambu - Origin of terms 'Negro' and Afrika

According to Anthony T. Browder in From 'The Browder File: 22 Essays on the African-American Experience' (2000), '...the Portuguese were the first to enslave Afrikans and they were the first to call them Negroes.

trinicenter.com

Just so you know I'm not just blowing smoke out my ass

Trinicenter.com - Dr. Kwame Nantambu - Origin of terms 'Negro' and Afrika

According to Anthony T. Browder in From 'The Browder File: 22 Essays on the African-American Experience' (2000), '...the Portuguese were the first to enslave Afrikans and they were the first to call them Negroes.

trinicenter.com

This is what they want us to believe




Still you could've easily searched this .

 

[footloose]

Trinicenter.com - Dr. Kwame Nantambu - Origin of terms 'Negro' and Afrika

According to Anthony T. Browder in From 'The Browder File: 22 Essays on the African-American Experience' (2000), '...the Portuguese were the first to enslave Afrikans and they were the first to call them Negroes.

trinicenter.com

Just so you know I'm not just blowing smoke out my ass

Trinicenter.com - Dr. Kwame Nantambu - Origin of terms 'Negro' and Afrika

According to Anthony T. Browder in From 'The Browder File: 22 Essays on the African-American Experience' (2000), '...the Portuguese were the first to enslave Afrikans and they were the first to call them Negroes.

trinicenter.com

This is what they want us to believe




Still you could've easily searched this .

ok. So it’s leading back to biblical references. Some people in here like Mangobob calls that fantasy not reality. Are you a believer or you just don’t like the association at all

 

[Darkness's]

ok. So it’s leading back to biblical references. Some people in here like Mangobob calls that fantasy not reality. Are you a believer or you just don’t like the association at all

The whites used that some of ham shit as an excuse to enslave us. They believed we were " the beast of the field" I don't claim to be a scholar either all I know was I heard this somewhere before in a movie or TV program and I heard one of my coworkers say the same thing years ago. I knew better for years since elementary school from black history that being called negro is wrong.

 

[footloose]

The whites used that some of ham shit as an excuse to enslave us. They believed we were " the beast of the field" I don't claim to be a scholar either all I know was I heard this somewhere before in a movie or TV program and I heard one of my coworkers say the same thing years ago. I knew better for years since elementary school from black history that being called negro is wrong.

Only one thing. Biblically the negroe isn’t ham. The negroe is the Jews. The hamites would be so called Africans.
I showed that earlier in acts 13:1. Referring to the word Niger describing one of the prophets

This is what Rastafarian is based off

 

[Darkness's]

Only one thing. Biblically the negroe isn’t ham. The negroe is the Jews. The hamites would be so called Africans.
I showed that earlier in acts 13:1. Referring to the word Niger describing one of the prophets

This is what Rastafarian is based off

I'm not into that hebrew isrealite hype. Miss me with that.

 

[footloose]

I'm not into that hebrew isrealite hype. Miss me with that.

You brought up something that is rooted from the Bible. Not me. So I referenced what it reads not what some white person says it says.
That doesn’t take a Hebrew Israelite, it doesn’t take white person to tell you what it says. Your eyes are your best friend.
As I mentioned. Rastafarian culture is rooted in what it reads. That’s why they trace haile sellasie lineage back to the seed of David as they claim and “they believe” he is the messiah.

Some call this fact checking.

Unless your disputing what it reads then you have to throw your whole arguement out cause it’s coming from that same source.

 

[Soul On Ice]

Man..

 

[footloose]

Man..

Not one lie told. I learned this at my job at a university. African guy told me “you don’t want to know what they think about you guys”. And I immediately thought “you guys” was a separation and then I thought wtf made them so comfortable to say that around you or to you.

 

[mangobob79]

The origins of the names of African countries can be traced to:

• Portuguese and Arabic traders and explorers
• European mispronunciation of tribal names
• Colonizers who identified them based on what they could exploit from the region or even, rather audaciously, who ruled it

Here are some examples of how African countries got their names:

• Cameroon
  A Portuguese explorer in the 15th century renamed the Wouri river, one of Cameroon's largest rivers, to Rio dos Camarões (shrimp river)
• 
  Northern Sudan
  The name derives from the Arabic words bilad as Sudan apparently meaning Land Of Those who are Dark
• Algeria
  The country is named after its capital of Algiers
• Angola
  The name is a Portuguese corruption of the Native term of ungola which was a title

Africa was named by a white person as well as most countries in Africa aside of Ethiopia.

The names of most African countries are remnants of colonialism

again u lied u claimed that MOST were named by white people when in fact MOST were named by Africans themselves u gave an example of 4 countries and haven't shown where "MOST OF THE 54 COUNTRIES WERE NAMED BY WHITE PEOPLE.. SO U LIED AGAIN SPEWING UR FBA ADOS BABBLE


one more try with proving ur fb ADOS babble

name the MOST of these countries that were named by WHITES , .."MOST" would imply above half = 27 countries

0: Algeria


1: Angola


2: Benin


3: Botswana


4: Burkina Faso


5: Burundi


6: Cabo Verde


7: Cameroon


8: Central African Republic


9: Chad


10: Congo-Kinshasa the Democratic Republic of the Congo


11: Congo Brazzaville Republic of the Congo


12: Cote d'Ivoire


13: Djibouti


14: Egypt


15: Equatorial Guinea


16: Eritrea


17: Ethiopia


18: Gabon


19: The Gambia


20: Ghana


21: Guinea


22: Guinea-Bissau


23: Kenya


24: Lesotho


25: Liberia


26: Libya


27: Madagascar


28: Malawi


29: Mali


30: Mauritania


31: Mauritius


32: Morocco


33: Mozambique


34: Namibia


35: Niger


36: Nigeria


37: Rwanda


38: Sao Tome and Principe


39: Senegal


40: Seychelles


41: Sierra Leone


42: Somalia


43: South Africa


44: South Sudan


45: eSwatini (Swaziland)


46: Tanzania


47: Togo


48: Tunisia


49: Uganda


50: Zambia


51: Zimbabwe

name at least 27 of these that were named by whites ?

 

[mangobob79]

Only one thing. Biblically the negroe isn’t ham. The negroe is the Jews. The hamites would be so called Africans.
I showed that earlier in acts 13:1. Referring to the word Niger describing one of the prophets

This is what Rastafarian is based off

uve shown u know nothing about Rastafari pls keep to ur antiAfrican fba ados hate babble & leave Rastafari out of it

 

[mangobob79]

Not one lie told. I learned this at my job at a university. African guy told me “you don’t want to know what they think about you guys”. And I immediately thought “you guys” was a separation and then I thought wtf made them so comfortable to say that around you or to you.

wait so one minute they try to go undercover & cosplay as u ,but then the next minute they separate themselves its almost as if u have to keep revising ur rhetoric to suit the agenda u wanna push, like there aren't black Americans who've talked shit & dehumanized Africans & the whole continent but we don't see 1.7billion africans join a hatecult to try to propagandize the words of a dozen ppl to represent 50million black Americans.. but carry one.. u keep exposing yourselves

 

[footloose]

Uve show u know nothing about Rastafari pls keep to ur antiAfrican fba ados hate babble & leave Rastafari out of it

The Star of David with the lion of Judah representing the tribe of Judah from the 12 tribes of Israel

Same star the Jewish people use Look familiar.

 

[footloose]

again u lied u claimed that MOST were named by white people when in fact MOST were named by Africans themselves u gave an example of 4 countries and haven't shown where "MOST OF THE 54 COUNTRIES WERE NAMED BY WHITE PEOPLE.. SO U LIED AGAIN SPEWING UR FBA ADOS BABBLE


one more try with proving ur fb ADOS babble

name the MOST of these countries that were named by WHITES , .."MOST" would imply above half = 27 countries

0: Algeria


1: Angola


2: Benin


3: Botswana


4: Burkina Faso


5: Burundi


6: Cabo Verde


7: Cameroon


8: Central African Republic


9: Chad


10: Congo-Kinshasa the Democratic Republic of the Congo


11: Congo Brazzaville Republic of the Congo


12: Cote d'Ivoire


13: Djibouti


14: Egypt


15: Equatorial Guinea


16: Eritrea


17: Ethiopia


18: Gabon


19: The Gambia


20: Ghana


21: Guinea


22: Guinea-Bissau


23: Kenya


24: Lesotho


25: Liberia


26: Libya


27: Madagascar


28: Malawi


29: Mali


30: Mauritania


31: Mauritius


32: Morocco


33: Mozambique


34: Namibia


35: Niger


36: Nigeria


37: Rwanda


38: Sao Tome and Principe


39: Senegal


40: Seychelles


41: Sierra Leone


42: Somalia


43: South Africa


44: South Sudan


45: eSwatini (Swaziland)


46: Tanzania


47: Togo


48: Tunisia


49: Uganda


50: Zambia


51: Zimbabwe

name at least 27 of these that were named by whites ?

Man you’re obsessed with Tariq. You gotta stop.

 

[mangobob79]

Man you’re obsessed with Tariq. You gotta stop.

but u regurgitate his rhetoric verbatim

"MOST OF THE 54 COUNTRIES WERE NAMED BY WHITE PEOPLE."

 

[mangobob79]

Ras

The Star of David with the lion of Judah representing the tribe of Judah from the 12 tribes of Israel

Same star the Jewish people use Look familiar.

Rastafari is bigger than Bob Marley & ur misinterpretation of it & ur claims that it started in america