Car Heads: Production Lexus LF-A makes debut

Lord T

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The production Lexus LF-A debuted at the Tokyo Auto Show. After what seems an eternity of dragging its feet, the LF-A is finally on its way. With a production of only 500 units and a price of $375,000 (yes that is right), Toyota is said to take a loss on each one produced.

Wow...didn't see THAT price coming:smh: Yes of course it will be more appointed than a GT-R or ZR-1, but I don't think it will hands down outperform them. At $375K, I know there are a lot more cars everyone would pick for that price

Tokyo 2009: Lexus reveals $375,000 LFA supercar...finally [w/VIDEO]
http://www.autoblog.com/2009/10/21/lexus-lfa-tokyo-2009/
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It seems like the Lexus LFA has been around forever. In reality, the first concept version was unveiled at the Detroit Auto Show in 2005, but that's a long time in the automotive world. Additional concepts followed in 2007 and 2008, and the on-off rumors of a production version haven't help. Nevertheless, the production version of the LFA is finally here at the Tokyo Motor Show, and it is glorious. All of which makes it harder to stomach that the car shown here isn't expected to reach customer garages until early 2011.

The specifications of the new rear-drive Lexus supercar are impressive enough: a 4.8-liter V10 with 560 ps (552 bhp), 354 lb-ft torque, a zingy 9,000 rpm redline, six-speed sequential gearbox, 0-62 mph in 3.7 seconds, and a top speed of 202 mph. It looks amazing too, both in pictures and in person.

Of course, we can't help but make comparisons to the current reigning Japanese supercar, the Nissan GT-R. At just 3,263 pounds, the LFA easily has a better power-to-weight ratio, but that hasn't seemed to stop the all-wheel drive juggernaut before. Then there is the small matter of cost to consider. Unlike the GT-R, which is considered a performance bargain, the LFA will be exclusive – and costly. Only 500 units will be produced at a cost of...drum roll please....$375,000. Despite the colossal price tag, we hear that Lexus expects to take a loss on each one.

Will the LFA be worth the high cost? We should be able to tell you soon, as our man Damon Lavrinc will be getting some time behind the wheel of a prototype later this week.
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Tokyo, October 21, 2009 - Lexus announces today the official launch of the LFA, a two-seat supercar scheduled to go into production at the end of 2010 as the pinnacle of the Lexus "F" premium sports car series. Pre-sales start today.

Ultra-responsive and extremely stable even when taken to the edge, the LFA creates a sense of reassurance that opens up a new world of driving emotion, exhilarating the senses to move the driver in more ways than one.

The LFA combines high output, superb chassis design and meticulous aerodynamics to achieve instantaneous total-vehicle response characterized by high-rev, seamless acceleration echoed by a self-defining resonance from its 4.8-liter V10.

Only 500 units of the LFA are to be produced and sold worldwide.

A prototype of the LFA is now on display at the 41st Tokyo Motor Show, which is open to the general public from October 24 to November 4 at Makuhari Messe in Makuhari, Chiba Prefecture.

1. Packaging brings out the most in fundamental performance

Strong and light

The newly developed 4.8-liter V10 engine boasts exceptional power, while lightweight materials (aluminum alloy, magnesium alloy and titanium alloy) and a very compact size (smaller than a conventional V8) allows for optimal weight distribution and an exceptional power-to-weight ratio.

Carbon fiber reinforced plastic (CFRP) cabin enhances high body-rigidity and reduces weight. This unique cabin is 100kg lighter than a comparable aluminum cabin. Detailed analysis and precise matching of CFRP materials allows for high rigidity and low weight. LFA CFRP production technology, including unique CFRP-to-metal joining, was completely developed by Lexus.

Balanced
Relatively higher weight components such as the engine and transmission are placed within the wheelbase. A low center of gravity is made possible by the use of dry sump lubrication1, along with placing peripheral components (oil pump, water pump) behind the engine. Furthermore, optimal placement of the transmission and the fuel tank in front of the rear axle adds to this application of centralized mass. This minimizes weight shift during cornering and contributes to outstanding performance and stability. Lighter weight components, like the radiator and electric fans, are placed behind the rear axle.

Combined with a front-engine and rear-wheel-drive configuration, the short, wide and low body allows the LFA to achieve its target front-to-rear weight distribution of 48:52.

Driver-centered
The driver's seat is positioned near the LFA's center of gravity. The centralized seating concept (with the seat between the front and rear axles and closer to the left–right center) is made possible by the use of a rear transaxle and vertically stacked torque tube and exhaust pipes reducing the width of the center tunnel. The driver placement is aimed to provide maximum car-to-driver feedback, especially under sport or high G-force driving conditions.


2. Emotive performance embodies an extraordinary driving experience

High–rev engine

Titanium valves, ultra–light weight rocker arms with a diamond–like coating and a fully integrated lower crankcase that reduces pumping losses at high RPMs combine to provide the driver with overwhelming acceleration right up to the 9,000rpm redline. The LFA's purpose-built V10 delivers 90% of its peak torque between 3,700rpm and 9,000rpm.

Precise Response

Independent, electronically controlled throttle bodies ensure precise air-feed to each of the 10 cylinders, enabling immediate engine response from the accelerator pedal. The engine response time is approximately half the normal response time of a single-throttle valve.

The six-speed ASG transmission features heavy-duty synchronizer rings and a newly developed gearshift actuator, providing the driver with a very direct shift feel. Four selectable driving modes and a seven-stage shift-speed selector that results in upshift speeds down to 0.2 seconds provide a higher level of driver control.

Track-sized high-performance (Carbon Ceramic) CCM brake discs and Electronically Controlled Braking system generate ultra-powerful yet stable braking.

Responsive handling and engaging dynamics

The very light and rigid CFRP cabin, combined with a front double-wishbone suspension and a rear multilink suspension, result in a very stable, controlled ride. Detailed aerodynamic engineering results in elements such as a flat underbody, a diffuser and a speed-controlled rear wing, which allows precise vehicle response at all vehicle speeds, thus creating unity between driver and machine.

Vehicle Dynamics Integrated Management integrates numerous vehicle dynamic functions that provide a high level of vehicle stability and preventative safety without interfering with the driver's intentions, especially when sport driving.

Exciting engine sound and L-finesse2 design
Equal-length exhaust manifolds combined with an equal-length dual exhaust system routed through a multistage titanium main muffler fine tunes the exhaust note.

An acoustically tuned surge tank linked to 10 individual throttle bodies creates a powerful induction sound. The coordination of intake and exhaust sounds overlap at various RPMs to create a unique, exciting and inspired soundtrack.

The exterior design includes carefully tuned aerodynamics and airflow management. The use of CFRP, in addition to strength and weight advantages, frees up the design of the exterior panels allowing a fresh supercar L-finesse design. The interior design combines state-of-the-art instrument-panel design and technology, along with a variety of custom-tailored interior trim packages to suit the most discerning driver.
 

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Front end looks like a GT-R, back end looks like an Audi R8, BOTH of those cars probably perform as well as this car, the Audi is probably better appointed, yet they both cost close to $300K LESS than this car. Toyota fucked up when they killed the Supra and they are fucking up again trying to peddle a car that really should have a Supra badge on it and cost $50K MAX (with a Lexus badge and appointed liked a mufukka, MAYBE I could see this car for $80-100K). Not only are they marketing this car as a supercar, but a high end one at that given the asking price.

Fuck all that hand made, exotic materials bullshit, build a flagship, reasonably priced PRODUCTION sports car.
 

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Audi and Nissan raised the bar for what you can call a Supercar these days when they came out the box dusting cars that cost 3x as much. Honda is planning on reintroducing the NSX under another name and it is gonna be in the $80-100K range as well. Cats that can spend $400K are NOT gonna buy this oversized fucking Celica looking whip (and I liked this body style of celica, but it's a fuckin CELICA).

One of these whips costs $345 THOUSAND dollars more than the other...
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$375k Lexus? lol

that's what I said...

I'm surprised that they actually went thru with this project. I thought it would have been killed a long time ago. $375k? :lol:

I mean this isn't Hyundai with it's Genesis, trying to compete with the S Class or 7... Lexus is trying to go at the likes of Ferrari and Lamborghini? :hmm:

An Audi R8 will get the job done nicely for more less than half the price.
 

Lord T

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Way over priced for the performance you get.
100% agreed. The LF-A costs more than:
-Lamborghini LP-640
-Ferrari 599 GTB
-Upcoming Mecedes-Benz SLS AMG Gullwing
-Upcoming Ferrari 458 Italia
-Upcoming McLaren MP4-12C

 

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100% agreed. The LF-A costs more than:
-Lamborghini LP-640
-Ferrari 599 GTB
-Upcoming Mecedes-Benz SLS AMG Gullwing
-Upcoming Ferrari 458 Italia
-Upcoming McLaren MP4-12C


EXACTLY!!!

Why make a $400K car with that huge engine and massive displacement when it still has the look and feel of a rice burner? Cats have been chomping at the bit for a new Toyota sports car. Cats will pay as much for a used Supra as they will for a NEW WRX or Lancer EVO. They claim they will take a loss on every car, they could have taken that body design, dropped all that extra HP and torque nobody ever gets to use anyway, placed a Supra badge on that bitch and had a $50-70K HIT on their hands in a bad auto market. Toss a Lexus badge on the same car with a few body tweaks and some finishing, jack the price up to $80-100K and STILL had a hit.

This is why I still say that Honda and Toyota have caught a bad case of auto industry bloat from their American brethren, their cars live off of reps they really have long since deserved. The cars are reliable (though nowhere near as superior as cats would believe), but they are bland as fuck. in a few years, cats will be shitting on Toyota like they do GM these days because the Koreans are about to do to the Japs what the Japs did to us.

Shit reminds me of that $100K+, V-10 Caddy XLR that failed miserably. Why spend $100K on a $60k Vette with a less attractive body?
 

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Uncle Juice
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100% agreed. The LF-A costs more than:
-Lamborghini LP-640
-Ferrari 599 GTB
-Upcoming Mecedes-Benz SLS AMG Gullwing
-Upcoming Ferrari 458 Italia
-Upcoming McLaren MP4-12C


I know man. I mean 375k and up, is some rarefied air. You're getting into Carrera GT, SLR, etc territory...
 

Lord T

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I know man. I mean 375k and up, is some rarefied air. You're getting into Carrera GT, SLR, etc territory...
True. I know R & D was a bitch on it and I know it packed full of tech from Toyota's F1 racing program and no doubt it is a fine GT car, but would I take it before a Aston Martin DB9/DBS?

0-60mph in 3.7 sec, it will have a shootout with a $70K ZO6:smh:
 

Hey Julian!

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OH, course Halo, will tell you it's the most reliable supercar ever! :lol:



Naw, but I always wait for performance numbers, before making a full judgement. I will say that it it looks good though. Toyota shelved this car, because of the GT-R, they were gunning for the Mclaren/SLR, which was more of a supercar tourer, but Nissan came in and said fuck everybody, with 3800lb car under 500hp.
I don't underestimate this car for several reasons.
1. It's had years of development. The concept was introduced in 2005,so that's 4 years of working out any chassis kinks etc.
2. Even though it was shelved for some time, they countinued development with a race version, that actually ran the 24hrs of Lemans. I'm sure that didn't go to waist. If you think of race cars, that were later made road legal, you can see where I'm going with that.
3. While Toyota's F1 program hasn't been very fruitful, you can hear the F-1 roots in that engine. It's got a redline of 9000 for godsake. That's wild, compared to the Viper V-10's 6250.



As far as the price, your pretty much buying exclusivity with only 500 being produced, so I ain't mad at 'em.
 

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100% agreed. The LF-A costs more than:
-Lamborghini LP-640
-Ferrari 599 GTB
-Upcoming Mecedes-Benz SLS AMG Gullwing
-Upcoming Ferrari 458 Italia
-Upcoming McLaren MP4-12C


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yo ill get an aston martin, a maserati and call it a day
 

Lord T

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Still want to see what Honda/Acura does with this -
Nothing. They canceled the NSX return, and Acura RWD platform cars. They are focusing more on fuel efficient/electric cars.

This is their "sporty" car

Tokyo 2009: Honda CR-Z coming to America next fall with six-speed manual!
http://www.autoblog.com/2009/10/21/tokyo-2009-honda-cr-z-coming-to-america-next-fall-with-six-spee/
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Honda fans of all sorts have cause to celebrate today with the reveal of the 2009 iteration of the CR-Z coupe. In typical Honda fashion, this CR-Z remains a concept in name and detail only. What you see here is essentially the production coupe that will go on sale in Japan next February and then arrive in North America in the Fall.

The cool scoop-like grille from the original 2007 concept has been largely carried over, with the biggest changes being a somewhat taller roof and a more upright windshield with blacked out A-pillars – concessions to the fact that real people will have to fit into the production car. On the exterior, the only elements likely to change once it hits the assembly line are the side mirrors, which will probably be a bit larger, along with the internals of the light clusters.

The good news for fans of the much-loved 1983-1991 Civic CR-X is that the CR-Z should have significantly better performance than the disappointing new Insight, a car that is geared more toward fuel economy than performance. In any case, the CR-Z coupe gets a bump in displacement up to 1.5-liter and – wait for it – a six-speed manual gearbox! This will be the first hybrid with a row-it-yourself six-speed.

Unfortunately, we probably won't hear any official numbers on the drivetrain's output or its mileage until closer to the Japanese launch, but color us excited
 

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Uncle Juice
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OH, course Halo, will tell you it's the most reliable supercar ever! :lol:



Naw, but I always wait for performance numbers, before making a full judgement. I will say that it it looks good though. Toyota shelved this car, because of the GT-R, they were gunning for the Mclaren/SLR, which was more of a supercar tourer, but Nissan came in and said fuck everybody, with 3800lb car under 500hp.
I don't underestimate this car for several reasons.
1. It's had years of development. The concept was introduced in 2005,so that's 4 years of working out any chassis kinks etc.
2. Even though it was shelved for some time, they countinued development with a race version, that actually ran the 24hrs of Lemans. I'm sure that didn't go to waist. If you think of race cars, that were later made road legal, you can see where I'm going with that.
3. While Toyota's F1 program hasn't been very fruitful, you can hear the F-1 roots in that engine. It's got a redline of 9000 for godsake. That's wild, compared to the Viper V-10's 6250.



As far as the price, your pretty much buying exclusivity with only 500 being produced, so I ain't mad at 'em.

You make some great points. I don't think anyone is doubting the performance of this car, but that price is absurd. I doubt they even sell the 500. A few will make their way to Dubai and parts of Asia, but I can't see most shrewd buyers with the meas to own a $375k car would seriously considering it.

Interesting quote from a member on another car forum (It's the "internets" so take it with a grain of salt, but the member there are pretty reputable)

I was part of a Focus Group for this car up in Monterey about 2 years ago. We sat in the car, which was about 3/4 car and 1/4 molded pieces. It looks pretty much the same as then. They asked what we'd pay for the car and the consensus was around $150 - $175k. It looks liked they've aimed a little higher. Should be interesting to see how this does next to equally valued cars.
 

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They are charging that ridiculos price because its being produced in Japan and shipped here and other places plus I'm figuring these are going to be hand built.

In any case shit is stupid, they should have just used this concept to reintroduce the Supra to take on the GT-R.


Looks like nobody can't match the performance and price of the GT-R
 

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I'd rather cop one of these:
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and 7 more for the homies and rent out a track for the summer. That's just me tho.

They both look damn near the same anyways. :lol:
 

Hey Julian!

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Still want to see what Honda/Acura does with this -


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Couldn't be happier that they cancelled this shit. Total fucking blasphemy IMO. They took a light-weight, 6-cylinder everyday supercar and tried to turn it into the L-FA. They would've ended up charging a ridiculous price for it too, I bet. Japanese car companies are rock smoking right now, they don't know which direction they wanna go and are making more appliance cars while, dropping their good stuff.

It's amazing that they kept the original NSX in production for over 10 years and tried to go left after all that time. It would've been a sure success if they kept it a mid engine, V-6(turboed this time around), aluminum bodied car. It would've been even lighter now that lighter gauge aluminum could be used and the suspension/chassis could now use aluminum. The true everday supercar is now the R8, IMO. A mid engine 400hp+ supercar under $100K.

Good riddance!(and they better not try to restart this program:hmm:)
 

Lord T

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Couldn't be happier that they cancelled this shit. Total fucking blasphemy IMO. They took a light-weight, 6-cylinder everyday supercar and tried to turn it into the L-FA. They would've ended up charging a ridiculous price for it too, I bet. Japanese car companies are rock smoking right now, they don't know which direction they wanna go and are making more appliance cars while, dropping their good stuff.

It's amazing that they kept the original NSX in production for over 10 years and tried to go left after all that time. It would've been a sure success if they kept it a mid engine, V-6(turboed this time around), aluminum bodied car. It would've been even lighter now that lighter gauge aluminum could be used and the suspension/chassis could now use aluminum. The true everday supercar is now the R8, IMO. A mid engine 400hp+ supercar under $100K.

Good riddance!(and they better not try to restart this program:hmm:)
:lol::lol: It did look a lot like the LF-A!
 

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:confused::smh:
give me a gallardo lp560-4 superleggera and i still got change...
mater of fact, keep the change:hmm:

heist Bait:)

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looks like a Skyline, 350Z and R8 got together and had a bastard child...:puke:


and $350k for a Toyota.....:lol::lol::lol:



for $350k I'd get a used Scuderia and a nice M5 to daily drive.......and still have money left over:yes:
 

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LennyNero1972

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Ridiculously over priced. I can see maybe 100 stack because of the engine, but almost 400?:smh::smh::smh: Toyota may have shot themselves in the foot, knee, thigh and ass with this one.
 

2nd2none

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They out of there damn minds with the price point. Like Lord T and many others in this thread said, you can get a hand full of cars with that price and, that has the same or close too the power it can dish out.

Don't know if this is true or not but I heard that there was to be two verson of the LFA. The one that is posted already and a weaker verson to it, at a lower price point. Like how the G37 is a weaker verson of the GTR. any one heard this??
 

yardy

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No way in hell anybody paying 400k for a lexus. They're going into supercar territory but that shit doesn't even look that good or exclusive. They should have just dropped a new supra and called it a day, because that's what everyone been waiting for anyway.
 

thundercat

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Wow...375k for this?! Seems like a fail waiting to happen.

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The roadster is sick though

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