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Clipped based on the downfall of Donald Sterling ... Laurence Fishburne will play Doc Rivers Ed O'Neill AKA Al Bundy as Donald Sterling

This series dealt with a lot of heavy shit, especially regarding race and sex but unfortunately, the casting is going to draw attention away from those discussions.

V. Stiviano is not somebody I want to feel bad for but I do feel bad for the boys she adopted but if I remember correctly from Ramona Shelbourne's podcast about the situation, Shelly Sterling (who is a horrible person) seemed to be somewhat inclined to look the other way if V. would have understood how to be subtle.

Donald and Shelly are terrible people but V. fumbled this bag on her own.
 
Duece said:
This series dealt with a lot of heavy shit, especially regarding race and sex but unfortunately, the casting is going to draw attention away from those discussions.

V. Stiviano is not somebody I want to feel bad for but I do feel bad for the boys she adopted but if I remember correctly from Ramona Shelbourne's podcast about the situation, Shelly Sterling (who is a horrible person) seemed to be somewhat inclined to look the other way if V. would have understood how to be subtle.

Donald and Shelly are terrible people but V. fumbled this bag on her own.
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Well said.

I'd like to add Shelly Sterling is a terrible, horrible, no good, very bad person.

Donald this human walking talking rancid excrement. But also out his mind.

Shelly is the personification of evil incarnate and our worst type of enemy.

She actually BELIEVES she is a good person.

The actress playing her was outstanding.

And needs to IMMEDIATELY play something else because she was way to believable in the role.
 
Duece said:
This series dealt with a lot of heavy shit, especially regarding race and sex but unfortunately, the casting is going to draw attention away from those discussions.

V. Stiviano is not somebody I want to feel bad for but I do feel bad for the boys she adopted but if I remember correctly from Ramona Shelbourne's podcast about the situation, Shelly Sterling (who is a horrible person) seemed to be somewhat inclined to look the other way if V. would have understood how to be subtle.

Donald and Shelly are terrible people but V. fumbled this bag on her own.
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Stivano is just... a waste.

Racist recordings were leaked on her too I believe

Salute to the actress for an Emmy worthy performance. But there was absolutely no way to make her sympathetic even with the boys and compared to the Sterlings.
 
playahaitian said:
Well said.

I'd like to add Shelly Sterling is a terrible, horrible, no good, very bad person.

Donald this human walking talking rancid excrement. But also out his mind.

Shelly is the personification of evil incarnate and our worst type of enemy.

She actually BELIEVES she is a good person.

The actress playing her was outstanding.

And needs to IMMEDIATELY play something else because she was way to believable in the role.
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Interesting side note, Playa.


The actresses playing V' and Shelly are both Australian.


Listened to Ramona Shelburne's podcast and there was talk about how much they respected one another. They would jokingly antagonize each other on set ... i.e. - smiling at / sticking tongue out with the whole old lady / young mistress dynamic they were portraying.
 
DOWNFALL??? did that lil weirdo faggot get BILLIONS for the sale of the team??

I wouldnt call that a DOWN fall, he made over a billy in profit, with his faggot ass!!

lots of jews are bisexual fo REAL.. notice that a lot in nyc......
 
Helico-pterFunk said:
Interesting side note, Playa.


The actresses playing V' and Shelly are both Australian.


Listened to Ramona Shelburne's podcast and there was talk about how much they respected one another. They would jokingly antagonize each other on set ... i.e. - smiling at / sticking tongue out with the whole old lady / young mistress dynamic they were portraying.
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I'm shocked based on the source material, incredible podcast, money and talent behind and in front on the camera

This was not BETTER.

It has GREAT WONDERFUL MOMENTS

But overall failed to deliver

The casting of Donald Shelly V and even Lavar should all win multiple major awards.

Low key Donald's right hand man was a great performance of a tortured soul.

But they NEEDED to nail Chris, DeAndre and Blake. That f**ked up everything.

They didn't need LOOKALIKES but the best actors.

Pacing was off. We needed more in depth on the pressure the team faced.

But the interviews were perfection.

I enjoyed it but also think Winning Time being so good in it's own way HURT this.
 
playahaitian said:
I'm shocked based on the source material, incredible podcast, money and talent behind and in front on the camera

This was not BETTER.

It has GREAT WONDERFUL MOMENTS

But overall failed to deliver

The casting of Donald Shelly V and even Lavar should all win multiple major awards.

Low key Donald's right hand man was a great performance of a tortured soul.

But they NEEDED to nail Chris, DeAndre and Blake. That f**ked up everything.

They didn't need LOOKALIKES but the best actors.

Pacing was off. We needed more in depth on the pressure the team faced.

But the interviews were perfection.

I enjoyed it but also think Winning Time being so good in it's own way HURT this.
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Yeah - exactly. The casting director(s) really didn't do a good job with a number of people.

Good point re: the right hand man for the Sterlings.

The serious topics discussed were done reasonably well.

Regarding Winning Time ... yeah ... they really set the bar high there on HBO / HBO Max. The players looked like the actual people, and could hoop! Excellent job done by casting and actors. Dudes who portrayed Magic, Kareem, and Bird? Damn ...

Compare that with the guys playing CP3, Blake, Steph, Klay, etc.
 
Helico-pterFunk said:
Yeah - exactly. The casting director(s) really didn't do a good job with a number of people.

Good point re: the right hand man for the Sterlings.

The serious topics discussed were done reasonably well.

Regarding Winning Time ... yeah ... they really set the bar high there on HBO / HBO Max. The players looked like the actual people, and could hoop! Excellent job done by casting and actors. Dudes who portrayed Magic, Kareem, and Bird? Damn ...

Compare that with the guys playing CP3, Blake, Steph, Klay, etc.
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Exactly

The dialog was great especially the racial stuff between characters based on class power money opportunity etc.

But some of those actors just weren't SEASONED enough to pull it off.

I do not know how winning time did it but any IMPORTANT characters to the story? They made sure to cast perfectly so it didn't distract

Of course they were far from perfect but OVERALL?

Besides the genius performance of magic

From west to red to Kareem to damn near everybody on the team and around it was a bullseye.

I think that's why when they kinda messed up Pryor it was so glaring.

Clipped had the production crew and money to do the same. I need a podcast on THAT part of the series.
 
Playa ^ - good points.


Yeah - that would be interesting to hear more of a behind the scenes from production / crew on Clipped.


With the re-release of Shelburne's 30 for 30 podcast series, and the whole talking about episodes after they aired with cast / writing team ... they don't really mention any of the more challenging details. It's more surface level stuff. Like you said ... give us more BTS about what making this miniseries was like.

Also, it's unfortunate that Winning Time had to end abruptly with a condensed 2nd season of 7 or so episodes. Would have worked better with 10 episodes ... and of course additional seasons in the years ahead. My take is that it probably didn't have strong enough ratings / cost too much as an ensemble cast with lots of characters. Everything is being hindered by cost cutting measures these days.
 
Good lil series...really just watched to look at her mouth..

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