Discussion: ESPN The Last Dance 10-Part Michael Jordan Documentary Series UPDATE: Early release due to coronavirus!
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What?!?
All social media has been doing is KILLING lebron and zeke and somehow pippen is getting stray shots when just a week ago everyone wanted him to get a new contract NOW
don't get me wrong no one i mean no one getting that work worse than krause
And i cannot BELIEVE Reinsdorf is completely skating.
But i completely disagree lebron and basically ALL the modern players getting murdered.
Yo this entire documentary acting like horace grant never existed.
Not on the level Lebron is though. Maybe Isaiah is though, but that's partially because he keeps doing interviews.
Zeke getting skewered
When Bird essentially trying to defend the Pistons?
You know its bad fam.
Krause basically being burned in effigy
And Horace is just ERASED
What about Ewing? He getting stray shots during before and after
Trailets, promos, gifs, memes, highlights, top ten lists
The list is long fam...
Jordan just put on the infinity gauntlet and slapped the whole basketball world
But i wonder if the drinking gambling womanizing him being petty and a asshole and the deaths around his nikes in the hood, etc gonna tip the scales.
Ok just heard a Carmen elektra interview on ESPN (spain and company
she said..
hil Jackson asked her What in the HELL was she doing dating Rodamn?
WTF??!!!
@tall
Ok just heard a Carmen Elektra interview on ESPN (Spain and company
she said..
Phil Jackson asked her What in the HELL was she doing dating Rodman?
WTF??!!!
@tallblacknyc
she said..
hil Jackson asked her What in the HELL was she doing dating Rodamn?
WTF??!!!
@tall
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Ok just heard a Carmen Elektra interview on ESPN (Spain and company
she said..
Phil Jackson asked her What in the HELL was she doing dating Rodman?
WTF??!!!
@tallblacknyc
Ken Burns Is Not Here for ESPN’s Michael Jordan Doc, The Last Dance
“I find it the opposite direction of where we need to be going.”
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Between the former Chicago resident cameo and Dennis Rodman nostalgia, you might be enjoying ESPN’s ten-part The Last Dance, but if you ask documentarian Ken Burns, the whole endeavor is one massive air ball. “I find it the opposite direction of where we need to be going,” the Academy Award–nominated filmmaker behind The Civil War and Baseball told the Wall Street Journal this week.
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Ken Burns says Michael Jordan’s ‘The Last Dance’ isn’t good journalism or good history
“The Last Dance” of Michael Jordan’s Chicago Bulls has been a big hit for ESPN. (Beth A. Keiser/AP)
By
Cindy Boren
April 30, 2020 at 12:43 p.m. EDT
Michael Jordan promised that “The Last Dance” would be a warts-and-all documentary, with nothing off limits.
But one of the most popular documentarians in America pointed out that a big problem with the 10-part ESPN series is that, while it may be entertaining as all get-out to watch a man whose greatest NBA glory came more than 20 years ago, it’s something of a vanity project that was made in partnership with Jump 23, Jordan’s production company. That means that Jordan was, to a degree, in control.
“I find it the opposite direction of where we need to be going. If you are there influencing the very fact of it getting made it means that certain aspects that you don’t necessarily want in aren’t going to be in, period,” Burns told the Wall Street Journal. “And that’s not the way you do good journalism ... and it’s certainly not the way you do good history, my business.”
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Burns added that he had not seen the first four parts that have aired, though many people certainly have been watching. The documentary, which provides an inside look at Jordan’s last season with the Chicago Bulls as they completed their second NBA championship three-peat, has averaged nearly 6 million viewers over its first four episodes, shown the past two Sunday nights.
Burns has produced enormously popular documentaries on baseball, the Civil War, the history of country music, the Vietnam War and the Roosevelts. “The Last Dance” was done differently than a Burns program, with executive producer Mike Tollin saying Jordan had seen all 10 episodes. That is an arrangement that Burns said he would “never, never, never, never” agree to.
But “The Last Dance” is part authorized biography as well as chronicle of a season. It has felt, over the first four episodes, disjointed at times as it seeks to place the final championship season in historical context as well as to chronicle the life of a transformative athlete. After all, there would not be one without the other, and if, along the way, it puts an end to the debate over whether Jordan or LeBron James is the greatest of all time, well, that may be a product of Jordan’s involvement in the production, too.
It’s part of a trend in sports in which players, teams and owners often seek to bend the narrative, whether through sites such as the Players’ Tribune or productions from their media companies, such as Tom Brady’s “Tom vs. Time” series. Tollin stressed the importance of credibility with “The Last Dance” but noted that “this isn’t investigative journalism. [Director] Jason [Hehir is] a filmmaker, and like his, my orientation is to tell great stories.”
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Burns seeks to tell stories, too, but through an objective point of view. “The Last Dance” is comprehensive and certainly compelling, with Estee Portnoy, Jordan’s business manager, telling The Washington Post’s Ben Golliver that “nothing was off limits.” But it remains a Jump 23 co-production even as it tells of Jordan’s cutthroat approach to competition and leadership and touches on subjects such as his tyrannical tendencies, his gambling, his apolitical public stance and his father’s death.
It’s the Bulls’ story, and it’s Jordan’s, too, but wouldn’t you like to see Ken Burns’s version of it?
“The Last Dance” of Michael Jordan’s Chicago Bulls has been a big hit for ESPN. (Beth A. Keiser/AP)
By
Cindy Boren
April 30, 2020 at 12:43 p.m. EDT
Michael Jordan promised that “The Last Dance” would be a warts-and-all documentary, with nothing off limits.
But one of the most popular documentarians in America pointed out that a big problem with the 10-part ESPN series is that, while it may be entertaining as all get-out to watch a man whose greatest NBA glory came more than 20 years ago, it’s something of a vanity project that was made in partnership with Jump 23, Jordan’s production company. That means that Jordan was, to a degree, in control.
“I find it the opposite direction of where we need to be going. If you are there influencing the very fact of it getting made it means that certain aspects that you don’t necessarily want in aren’t going to be in, period,” Burns told the Wall Street Journal. “And that’s not the way you do good journalism ... and it’s certainly not the way you do good history, my business.”
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Burns added that he had not seen the first four parts that have aired, though many people certainly have been watching. The documentary, which provides an inside look at Jordan’s last season with the Chicago Bulls as they completed their second NBA championship three-peat, has averaged nearly 6 million viewers over its first four episodes, shown the past two Sunday nights.
Burns has produced enormously popular documentaries on baseball, the Civil War, the history of country music, the Vietnam War and the Roosevelts. “The Last Dance” was done differently than a Burns program, with executive producer Mike Tollin saying Jordan had seen all 10 episodes. That is an arrangement that Burns said he would “never, never, never, never” agree to.
But “The Last Dance” is part authorized biography as well as chronicle of a season. It has felt, over the first four episodes, disjointed at times as it seeks to place the final championship season in historical context as well as to chronicle the life of a transformative athlete. After all, there would not be one without the other, and if, along the way, it puts an end to the debate over whether Jordan or LeBron James is the greatest of all time, well, that may be a product of Jordan’s involvement in the production, too.
It’s part of a trend in sports in which players, teams and owners often seek to bend the narrative, whether through sites such as the Players’ Tribune or productions from their media companies, such as Tom Brady’s “Tom vs. Time” series. Tollin stressed the importance of credibility with “The Last Dance” but noted that “this isn’t investigative journalism. [Director] Jason [Hehir is] a filmmaker, and like his, my orientation is to tell great stories.”
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Burns seeks to tell stories, too, but through an objective point of view. “The Last Dance” is comprehensive and certainly compelling, with Estee Portnoy, Jordan’s business manager, telling The Washington Post’s Ben Golliver that “nothing was off limits.” But it remains a Jump 23 co-production even as it tells of Jordan’s cutthroat approach to competition and leadership and touches on subjects such as his tyrannical tendencies, his gambling, his apolitical public stance and his father’s death.
It’s the Bulls’ story, and it’s Jordan’s, too, but wouldn’t you like to see Ken Burns’s version of it?
Michael Jordan And The Chicago Bulls Play Some Good Basketball In 'The Last Dance'
The ESPN documentary series follows the Bulls and Jordan through their hugely successful run of championships in the 1990s, and through the last season they had together.
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Michael Jordan Documentary The Last Dance And What's Making Us Happy
In the mid-1990s, sports teams didn't get any bigger than the Chicago Bulls. Led by supermegastar Michael Jordan, the Bulls won six NBA championships in eight years. And now, ESPN is presenting a ten-part documentary series all about them. The Last Dance follows the Bulls' final championship...
Michael Jordan Documentary The Last Dance And What's Making Us Happy
00:24:12 - In the mid-1990s, sports teams didn't get any bigger than the Chicago Bulls. Led by supermegastar Michael Jordan, the Bulls won six NBA championship…
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I agree with the tweet. They went from Rodman being on the Bulls to playing him in the playoffs against the Pistons. They did that backwards.
I was thinking the same thing...
But from the previews it looks we might get a reason why tonight...
At least Pat ACTUALLY DEFENDING THE FCKING BASKET
I'm sick and damn tired of every so called defender scared to sh*t and cowering in fear in the paint.
And message to these young dudes
EVERY dunk basically 2 feet from another player?
isn't the best dunk of all times
Its just a dunk.
To all the haters...
Lebron was set to be all nba and defensive team this season.
I completely FORGOT that Horace is HATED more than krause by fans and seen as a traitor
But to act like he was NOT a vital part of that 3 headed monster with Pip and MJ is just a flat out lie.
Happily real Chicago folk are speaking up not only for Zeke but for Horace.
You just CANNOT leave him out.
Sidebar...
The BETTER address the gact that MANY MANY people believe phil LIED about Horace being the snitch to sam Smith book.
I'm not even mad at the time jumps...
But i see that they have not only caused some confusion but left some holes in the narrative.
Following the time line... tonight episodes deals with 92-93...
Olympics and MJ's 1st Retirement...
I think we're moving into Horace Grant and Kukoc episodes...
Ok buckle up
We about to show the world asshole MJ
And Horace might be getting the Krause treatment
Sidebar...
Now will they discuss the long held belief Phil jackson LIED about Horace Grant being the one who leaked info to sam smith for the jordan rules book?
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ESPN & Jordan need to send Ewing and Knicks fans 10% in damages when this documentary is done
for cruel and unusual punishment
for cruel and unusual punishment
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