Discussion: ESPN The Last Dance 10-Part Michael Jordan Documentary Series UPDATE: Early release due to coronavirus!
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Thats all Im saying.
Whats there to be scared of?
Yes MJ people will still buy your shoes, dont worry about it.
Yeah ok don't tell me listen again stop assuming everyone is like you actually being able to hold 2 separate individual opinions at the same time.
Most can't
I’m pretty sure most people who know the situation think, “Hey, why doesn’t any of these guys just say they don’t want him on the team”?
I could be wrong.
I’m pretty sure most people who know the situation think, “Hey, why doesn’t any of these guys just say they don’t want him on the team”?
I could be wrong.
Keep in mind that alot of the big names in the sports media came to Jordan's defense so some of the comments are directed at them too.
Clyde Drexler fires back at Michael Jordan after disrespect in 'The Last Dance'
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Portland Trail Blazers’ great Clyde Drexler was one of Michael Jordan’s longtime rivals during their playing days, and it was showcased during “The Last Dance” documentary.
In the docuseries, Jordan said that he was “offended” when he was compared to Drexler.
HORACE GRANT DENIES HE WAS SOURCE FOR 'THE JORDAN RULES' AFTER MICHAEL JORDAN'S CLAIM: 'LIE, LIE, LIE'
"I'm not saying [Clyde] wasn't a threat. But me being compared to him, I took offense to that,” Jordan said.
Drexler, one of the best shooting guards in the NBA during that era, fired back at Jordan.
“That’s Michael’s documentary so obviously it’s going to be from his perspective,” Drexler said during an appearance on SportsTalk 790. “Everybody is entitled to their own opinion. A lot of times guys didn’t like each other from other teams, but as you get older, you’ve got to get beyond all of that and show some love and some respect for the people you played with and against.
SCOTTIE PIPPEN IS 'BEYOND LIVID' ABOUT HOW MICHAEL JORDAN PORTRAYED HIM IN 'THE LAST DANCE'
“This is a team game, it’s not one guy,” Drexler added. “You can have 50 points and 40 rebounds, but if you lose, are you less of a player than anybody on the other team? No, it’s a team game. So I hate when people act like it’s an individual competition. I didn’t take 35 shots and get 20 free throws a night, so I wasn’t going to score 40 points a night.”
Drexler and the Trail Blazers fell to the Chicago Bulls in the 1992 NBA Finals, however, Drexler ended up winning a championship with the Houston Rockets in 1995.
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Fox Nation's 'Guarding Jordan': Former NBA star Jeff Hornacek reflects on playing the NBA great
Portland Trail Blazers’ great Clyde Drexler was one of Michael Jordan’s longtime rivals during their playing days, and it was showcased during “The Last Dance” documentary.
In the docuseries, Jordan said that he was “offended” when he was compared to Drexler.
HORACE GRANT DENIES HE WAS SOURCE FOR 'THE JORDAN RULES' AFTER MICHAEL JORDAN'S CLAIM: 'LIE, LIE, LIE'
"I'm not saying [Clyde] wasn't a threat. But me being compared to him, I took offense to that,” Jordan said.
Drexler, one of the best shooting guards in the NBA during that era, fired back at Jordan.
“That’s Michael’s documentary so obviously it’s going to be from his perspective,” Drexler said during an appearance on SportsTalk 790. “Everybody is entitled to their own opinion. A lot of times guys didn’t like each other from other teams, but as you get older, you’ve got to get beyond all of that and show some love and some respect for the people you played with and against.
SCOTTIE PIPPEN IS 'BEYOND LIVID' ABOUT HOW MICHAEL JORDAN PORTRAYED HIM IN 'THE LAST DANCE'
“This is a team game, it’s not one guy,” Drexler added. “You can have 50 points and 40 rebounds, but if you lose, are you less of a player than anybody on the other team? No, it’s a team game. So I hate when people act like it’s an individual competition. I didn’t take 35 shots and get 20 free throws a night, so I wasn’t going to score 40 points a night.”
Drexler and the Trail Blazers fell to the Chicago Bulls in the 1992 NBA Finals, however, Drexler ended up winning a championship with the Houston Rockets in 1995.
Clyde Drexler fires back at Michael Jordan after disrespect in 'The Last Dance'
Portland Trail Blazers’ great Clyde Drexler was one of Michael Jordan’s longtime rivals during their playing days, and it was showcased during “The Last Dance” documentary.
Scottie Pippen is 'beyond livid' about how Michael Jordan portrayed him in 'The Last Dance'
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Former NBA star Jeff Hornacek on 'the one big key' to guarding Michael Jordan
Horace Grant isn’t the only former teammate of Michael Jordan who is unhappy with how he was portrayed in ESPN’s “The Last Dance." You can add Hall of Famer Scottie Pippen to that list too.
According to David Kaplan of ESPN 1000 in Chicago, Pippen, who won six NBA championships with Jordan and the Chicago Bulls during the ‘90s, is “so angry” and “beyond livid” at his teammate for how he came across in the documentary.
Pippen’s unhappiness derives from Jordan calling him "selfish" and that he "didn't realize what he was getting himself into" with the 10-part series that spanned five weeks.
"[Pippen] felt like up until the last few minutes of Game 6 against the Jazz [in the 1998 NBA Finals], it was just 'bash Scottie, bash Scottie, bash Scottie,'" Kaplan said.
HORACE GRANT DENIES HE WAS SOURCE FOR 'THE JORDAN RULES' AFTER MICHAEL JORDAN'S CLAIM
This report comes after Grant vehemently denied he fed author Sam Smith information about the team for his book “The Jordan Rules.”
Jordan made the claim during documentary and Grant got his chance at a rebuttal on Tuesday during an interview on ESPN 1000’s “Kap and Co.”
CHICAGO BULLS STILL TRYING TO FIND 7TH CHAMPIONSHIP AFTER MICHAEL JORDAN ERA
“Lie, lie, lie. ... If MJ had a grudge with me, let's settle this like men,” Grant told the Chicago-based radio station. “Let's talk about it. Or we can settle it another way. But yet and still, he goes out and puts this lie out that I was the source behind [the book]. Sam and I have always been great friends. We're still great friends. But the sanctity of that locker room, I would never put anything personal out there. The mere fact that Sam Smith was an investigative reporter. That he had to have two sources, two, to write a book, I guess. Why would MJ just point me out?”
Grant added that if you say something about Jordan, "he's going to try to destroy your character."
Grant confirmed a story from Smith earlier this month. Smith told KNBR that Jordan took Grant’s food away when the forward had a bad game. Grant said he didn’t take it lightly.
“Anybody [who] knows me, as a rookie, if anybody comes up and tries to snatch my food away, I'm going to do my best to beat their a--,” he said. “And believe me, back then, I could have took MJ in a heartbeat. Yes, it's true that he told the flight attendant, 'Well, don't give him anything because he played like crap.' And I went right back at him.
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“I said some choice words that I won't repeat here. But I said some choice words and stood up. 'If you want it, you come and get it.' And of course, he didn't move. He was just barking. But that was the story. But anybody [who] knows me, where I come from and what I stand for, come on, man. There's nobody in this Earth would ever come and try to take food off my plate and not get their rear ends beaten.”
Grant, who helped the Bulls to three of their championships, said he last spoke to Jordan about three years ago but wasn’t concerned whether they were still on good terms.
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Former NBA star Jeff Hornacek on 'the one big key' to guarding Michael Jordan
Horace Grant isn’t the only former teammate of Michael Jordan who is unhappy with how he was portrayed in ESPN’s “The Last Dance." You can add Hall of Famer Scottie Pippen to that list too.
According to David Kaplan of ESPN 1000 in Chicago, Pippen, who won six NBA championships with Jordan and the Chicago Bulls during the ‘90s, is “so angry” and “beyond livid” at his teammate for how he came across in the documentary.
Pippen’s unhappiness derives from Jordan calling him "selfish" and that he "didn't realize what he was getting himself into" with the 10-part series that spanned five weeks.
"[Pippen] felt like up until the last few minutes of Game 6 against the Jazz [in the 1998 NBA Finals], it was just 'bash Scottie, bash Scottie, bash Scottie,'" Kaplan said.
HORACE GRANT DENIES HE WAS SOURCE FOR 'THE JORDAN RULES' AFTER MICHAEL JORDAN'S CLAIM
This report comes after Grant vehemently denied he fed author Sam Smith information about the team for his book “The Jordan Rules.”
Jordan made the claim during documentary and Grant got his chance at a rebuttal on Tuesday during an interview on ESPN 1000’s “Kap and Co.”
CHICAGO BULLS STILL TRYING TO FIND 7TH CHAMPIONSHIP AFTER MICHAEL JORDAN ERA
“Lie, lie, lie. ... If MJ had a grudge with me, let's settle this like men,” Grant told the Chicago-based radio station. “Let's talk about it. Or we can settle it another way. But yet and still, he goes out and puts this lie out that I was the source behind [the book]. Sam and I have always been great friends. We're still great friends. But the sanctity of that locker room, I would never put anything personal out there. The mere fact that Sam Smith was an investigative reporter. That he had to have two sources, two, to write a book, I guess. Why would MJ just point me out?”
Grant added that if you say something about Jordan, "he's going to try to destroy your character."
Grant confirmed a story from Smith earlier this month. Smith told KNBR that Jordan took Grant’s food away when the forward had a bad game. Grant said he didn’t take it lightly.
“Anybody [who] knows me, as a rookie, if anybody comes up and tries to snatch my food away, I'm going to do my best to beat their a--,” he said. “And believe me, back then, I could have took MJ in a heartbeat. Yes, it's true that he told the flight attendant, 'Well, don't give him anything because he played like crap.' And I went right back at him.
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“I said some choice words that I won't repeat here. But I said some choice words and stood up. 'If you want it, you come and get it.' And of course, he didn't move. He was just barking. But that was the story. But anybody [who] knows me, where I come from and what I stand for, come on, man. There's nobody in this Earth would ever come and try to take food off my plate and not get their rear ends beaten.”
Grant, who helped the Bulls to three of their championships, said he last spoke to Jordan about three years ago but wasn’t concerned whether they were still on good terms.
Scottie Pippen is 'beyond livid' about how Michael Jordan portrayed him in 'The Last Dance'
Horace Grant isn’t the only former teammate of Michael Jordan’s who is unhappy with how he was portrayed in ESPN’s “The Last Dance." You can add Hall of Famer Scottie Pippen to that list, too.
5-10 years from now people will look back at this doc as a turning point in the legacy of MJ. Dude threw teammates and contemporaries under the bus to project himself superior. A lot of guys that just went along caping for him as GOAT in the 80s and 90s are now realizing all that did was benefit him. Now they starting to say what they really feel and not protect his image like they all used to since it was "good for the game" back then.
Scottie Pippen is 'beyond livid' about how Michael Jordan portrayed him in 'The Last Dance'
By Daniel Canova | Fox News
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Former NBA star Jeff Hornacek on 'the one big key' to guarding Michael Jordan
Horace Grant isn’t the only former teammate of Michael Jordan who is unhappy with how he was portrayed in ESPN’s “The Last Dance." You can add Hall of Famer Scottie Pippen to that list too.
According to David Kaplan of ESPN 1000 in Chicago, Pippen, who won six NBA championships with Jordan and the Chicago Bulls during the ‘90s, is “so angry” and “beyond livid” at his teammate for how he came across in the documentary.
Pippen’s unhappiness derives from Jordan calling him "selfish" and that he "didn't realize what he was getting himself into" with the 10-part series that spanned five weeks.
"[Pippen] felt like up until the last few minutes of Game 6 against the Jazz [in the 1998 NBA Finals], it was just 'bash Scottie, bash Scottie, bash Scottie,'" Kaplan said.
HORACE GRANT DENIES HE WAS SOURCE FOR 'THE JORDAN RULES' AFTER MICHAEL JORDAN'S CLAIM
This report comes after Grant vehemently denied he fed author Sam Smith information about the team for his book “The Jordan Rules.”
Jordan made the claim during documentary and Grant got his chance at a rebuttal on Tuesday during an interview on ESPN 1000’s “Kap and Co.”
CHICAGO BULLS STILL TRYING TO FIND 7TH CHAMPIONSHIP AFTER MICHAEL JORDAN ERA
“Lie, lie, lie. ... If MJ had a grudge with me, let's settle this like men,” Grant told the Chicago-based radio station. “Let's talk about it. Or we can settle it another way. But yet and still, he goes out and puts this lie out that I was the source behind [the book]. Sam and I have always been great friends. We're still great friends. But the sanctity of that locker room, I would never put anything personal out there. The mere fact that Sam Smith was an investigative reporter. That he had to have two sources, two, to write a book, I guess. Why would MJ just point me out?”
Grant added that if you say something about Jordan, "he's going to try to destroy your character."
Grant confirmed a story from Smith earlier this month. Smith told KNBR that Jordan took Grant’s food away when the forward had a bad game. Grant said he didn’t take it lightly.
“Anybody [who] knows me, as a rookie, if anybody comes up and tries to snatch my food away, I'm going to do my best to beat their a--,” he said. “And believe me, back then, I could have took MJ in a heartbeat. Yes, it's true that he told the flight attendant, 'Well, don't give him anything because he played like crap.' And I went right back at him.
CLICK HERE FOR MORE SPORTS COVERAGE ON FOXNEWS.COM
“I said some choice words that I won't repeat here. But I said some choice words and stood up. 'If you want it, you come and get it.' And of course, he didn't move. He was just barking. But that was the story. But anybody [who] knows me, where I come from and what I stand for, come on, man. There's nobody in this Earth would ever come and try to take food off my plate and not get their rear ends beaten.”
Grant, who helped the Bulls to three of their championships, said he last spoke to Jordan about three years ago but wasn’t concerned whether they were still on good terms.
Scottie Pippen is 'beyond livid' about how Michael Jordan portrayed him in 'The Last Dance'
Horace Grant isn’t the only former teammate of Michael Jordan’s who is unhappy with how he was portrayed in ESPN’s “The Last Dance." You can add Hall of Famer Scottie Pippen to that list, too.
Quick question, did they use this in those shots with Scottie talking?
Gary Payton was 'hot' about Michael Jordan laughing at The Glove, cooled off
In the documentary, Payton described how his defense bothered Jordan during the 1996 NBA Finals
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I would be mad too,if someone lied like that in a documentary..Payton never said he shut Jordan down. He said,he slowed him down which was a fact. Im not saying the Sonics would have won but I think the series would have gone to seven games....
I don't understand,why people believe every single word coming from Jordan's mouth...
Cuz the media is heavily slanted in his favor since he's such a cash cow. The media also doesnt want any bad info on MJ out yet because all that shit will drop when he dies and they gonna monetize it then. His legacy isnt built to last after his death. It will be profitable to tear it apart then, watch.
For a man called the goat, money, black jesus, black cat...
Clowned EVERYONE
And produced a 10 hour documentary to do it on camera
He sure scared of a under 6 ft point guard from Chicago who has a winning record against him.
Cause TRUST zeke would have had no problem
Then and now
saying HE DID IT if it did.
Watching this shit confirms how much of a hoe ass dude MJ was. Dude is a douche
Gary Payton was 'hot' about Michael Jordan laughing at The Glove, cooled off
In the documentary, Payton described how his defense bothered Jordan during the 1996 NBA Finals
I would be mad too,if someone lied like that in a documentary..Payton never said he shut Jordan down. He said,he slowed him down which was a fact. Im not saying the Sonics would have won but I think the series would have gone to seven games....
I don't understand,why people believe every single word coming from Jordan's mouth...
Just go check the numbers..
The glove DID have a major effect defensively
And apparently Jordan can do and say anything cause of those rings.
Russell was treated like shit in boston, gayle slandered kobe days after hos death, the painted nigg**, on lebron door, and clown Pip on the regular word to Future...
Guess their rings don't count the same.
Something that needs to be addressed
Players like zeke and Lebron did NOT have the privilege of a stable 2 parent home like Jordan.
That MEANS something
Cause don't let these folks talk about mental toughness and dismiss the mental stregth and will it takes for players like Lebron, Pippen, Rodman
to not only make it to the league
But to the hall of fame
Against a whole lot of odds MJ was blessed not to face
Players like zeke and Lebron did NOT have the privilege of a stable 2 parent home like Jordan.
That MEANS something
Cause don't let these folks talk about mental toughness and dismiss the mental stregth and will it takes for players like Lebron, Pippen, Rodman
to not only make it to the league
But to the hall of fame
Against a whole lot of odds MJ was blessed not to face
Respect to MJ
For hanging in the air with his tongue out and switched hands to deftly avoid addressing kids killing each other for his overpriced sneakers.
For hanging in the air with his tongue out and switched hands to deftly avoid addressing kids killing each other for his overpriced sneakers.
There’s literally nothing he can do to stop that other than say, “Don’t kill over my shoes”.
People kill over dirty looks and stares.
But on a serious note, you aight man? You ain’t been right since...
You right CAC. There's nothing MJ could've done. People die everyday B.
I like this game! I can pretend to be white and you can pretend to be heterosexual.
So for 24 hours you can try to do what heterosexual men do! I know the gyms are closed but go outside and play basketball, and this time try not to put the ball in my our mouth!
All the players and the head coach were CHOSEN by Rod Thorn to be on the DreamTeam, there were NBA players and coaches that weren’t on the team but could’ve been but Rod Thorn didn’t choose them. Michael Jordan was the face of the NBA and because of that was the only player that Rod Thorn felt needed to be on the team so he did what he felt he needed to get Jordan on the team. If Scottie, Charles, David Robinson, etc...said they wouldnt play with Isaiah then he could’ve chosen someone else. Magic wasn’t even playing in the NBA and Bird was close to retiring so them not being on the team could’ve been explained away, MJ was needed and that’s why Isaiah wasn’t on there
Its better if you are white. If you were black typing the bullshit you just typed then you'd be a coon. Plus you not verified and named yourself after a CAC. Prioritizing a shoe legacy over black life and acting like he can't say nothing, that bullshit aint gonna fly. Others did and took action. MJ is just a coward and dont care about black life like yourself. Retro sneakers staying relevant and "cool" is more important
Nothing I just typed was race related so the term “Coon” doesn’t fit. Unfortunately you lack knowledge on Black related issues so you don’t even know that. Which shows again, that you type bullshit.
I was hoping to see some growth in your response since you were pretending to be heterosexual. I guess it takes a while to adapt.
You dismissed death so easily and make excuses like he couldnt do nothing. So he can make a 10 part doc for you to ride his dick, or assert himself superior to todays athlete at the drop of a hat but to address the youth killing over his sneaker with his likeness is too much.
And Im sorry no black man addresses homosexuality as much as you inject it, your whiteness always shows "Picasso".
You dismissed death so easily and make excuses like he couldnt do nothing. So he can make a 10 part doc for you to ride his dick, or assert himself superior to todays athlete at the drop of a hat but to address the youth killing over his sneaker with his likeness is too much.
This is what Jordan's fanbase has devolved to. Only whites like Picasso and blacks detached from the black community are still fully throated defending this coons legacy. Defending coons is hard work.
Can you please show respect to us Black people by capitalizing the word “Black”?
It’s disrespectful to us, but you know that don’t you which is why you keep typing in lowercase. It’s the little things that expose you.
Can you please show respect to us Black people by capitalizing the word “Black”?
It’s disrespectful to us, but you know that don’t you which is why you keep typing in lowercase. It’s the little things that expose you.
You arent black and arent verified. Ive never seen you speak on ADOS, which is odd because its been at the forefront of our community over a year. But you will speak at length about MJ. FOH. Why does a black person name themselves Picasso?
Why isnt MJ speaking on anything going on right now? He's just selling shoes. You whites taught him well.
Fam we dont need an explanation as to why MJ had all the power. We know why.
The only question is why does MJ lie about using his power to keep Isiah off the team even decades later.
All these other players sing the same song. Pippen has been the only one to be upfront about not wanting to play with Isiah. Everybody else says "well its the other guys who didnt like him".
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And,then want to say Payton or anyone thats trying set the record straight is jealous of Jordan. Payton,Drexler and Isiah have nothing to be jealous about especially when they accomplished alot more than any their peers.
Clyde Drexler had to come out and defend himself because of the documentary..He rarely comes out for anything.
Clyde Drexler ‘hates’ the Michael Jordan we saw in ‘Last Dance’
Clyde Drexler didn’t need to see “The Last Dance” to understand Michael Jordan any more than he already does. “I lived it,” the former TrailBlazers star and early 1990…
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I know the numbers but people act like what he said was bullshit. Payton made Jordan work for his points. What's funny,Payton was the only person that made him score under his average in the Finals. People may say allowing 23.7 ppg in the Finals aint nothing but that's for other players but Jordan was averaging 30 ppg in the Finals.
And,then want to say Payton or anyone thats trying set the record straight is jealous of Jordan. Payton,Drexler and Isiah have nothing to be jealous about especially when they accomplished alot more than any their peers.
Clyde Drexler had to come out and defend himself because of the documentary..He rarely comes out for anything.
Clyde Drexler ‘hates’ the Michael Jordan we saw in ‘Last Dance’
Clyde Drexler didn’t need to see “The Last Dance” to understand Michael Jordan any more than he already does. “I lived it,” the former TrailBlazers star and early 1990…
I know the numbers but people act like what he said was bullshit. Payton made Jordan work for his points. What's funny,Payton was the only person that made him score under his average in the Finals. People may say allowing 23.7 ppg in the Finals aint nothing but that's for other players but Jordan was averaging 30 ppg in the Finals.
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