Do We Still Need the Theater/Stadium experience to enjoy movies or sports? Will they ever become obsolete??

[tallblacknyc]

If the MPAA or Sports Leagues dont get their cut.... things are getting shut down.

no shit

 

[tallblacknyc]

What are you talking about? Never needed? You mean we don't need now.... .

There was a time when only way you can see a movie is in a theatre.

It dates back to the ancient time of amphitheaters.

Lots of historical inaccuracies about the business of entertainment in your below comment.

You just made your own hypothesis but it isn't based in any historical fact.

The TV changed how people were entertained. Before that you HAD to go outside and watch a movie or a play or a sporting event.

Nothing gullible about that aspect. If people wanted to see something they had to go buy a ticket and sit down together and watch it.

Clubs
Before a phonograph or radio was even invented people had to go to clubs to hear music and dance.
They used live BANDS. Most people did not have money for a live band at home.
So people weren't having house parties.

Tv /radio is a century+ y r old invention.. Humans been around possibly millions of yrs minimum a few hundred thousand yrs.. They lived and survived without both those inventions.. Which says humans don't need them to exist.. Humans were entertaining themselves in other ways.. If you eliminate them now guess what humans will still survive and just find other alternatives to entertain themselves.. So once again it's not a neccessity of life.. It was a big bizz creation to generate money and spread agendas period.. Learn your history

 

[TENT]

1. My main point was about sports and movie theaters. That is why I separated clubs and music to the bottom.
2. I know enough about Africa, but yes I wasn't talking about Africa.
3. We aren't in Africa and we weren't talking about Africa. This is an American board and you both know we are in America.
4. You said house parties. No one was dancing in their house were they slept. That is a fact.

So scroll back to what I original wrote and catch where I fucked up at. Cause you can't find it.

You do know music and dancing existed b4 a club right? Do you think somebody said let's make an empty shelter than figure out how to make music for people to go in there?.. Nig africans were playing music for thousands of yrs and dancing in celebration for everything.. You obviously know nothing of black history... Music, food, and dance has been part of black culture since the beginning of time.. hell playing drums and other instruments go back thousands of yrs.. Births, bdays, weddings, etc were celebrated.. Bbqs, feast been going on.. It's in our dna to celebrate fun times.. Your ass actually believe clubs created a party atmosphere bahawaaa go sit at the kid table young man you ain't ready for this grown folks convo... Somebody need a history lesson on celebration and festivities

 

[TENT]

I am not being rude bro but I detect hostility. Let me leave u alone. I am tired.

no shit

 

[TENT]

So you talking philosophically. Ok. I thought we were talking capitalism and entertainment.
Since we are used to them and they are big money industries we do need them.

But you are right. We do not NEED them.

We dont need anything when you really think about it. Right?

Tv /radio is a century+ y r old invention.. Humans been around possibly millions of yrs minimum a few hundred thousand yrs.. They lived and survived without both those inventions.. Which says humans don't need them to exist.. Humans were entertaining themselves in other ways.. If you eliminate them now guess what humans will still survive and just find other alternatives to entertain themselves.. So once again it's not a neccessity of life.. It was a big bizz creation to generate money and spread agendas period.. Learn your history

 

[HisFlyness]

Also...

With the way NBA players take personal days now, FUCK ever paying for a ticket again. In the past I would look at the Lakers' schedule,pick which games I wanted to see and then buy all the tickets the morning they went on sale(in September I believe.) I could buy a ticket for a Lakers/T Wolves game 5 months away confident that if he was healthy, I would get to see KG hoop. Now, dudes will sit because it's a back-to-back.

I'm actually cool with them resting, I just won't pay Lakers' ticket prices and not see the best players. I'll be on the couch, chillin.

 

[tallblacknyc]

1. My main point was about sports and movie theaters. That is why I separated clubs and music to the bottom.
2. I know enough about Africa, but yes I wasn't talking about Africa.
3. We aren't in Africa and we weren't talking about Africa. This is an American board and you both know we are in America.
4. You said house parties. No one was dancing in their house were they slept. That is a fact.

So scroll back to what I original wrote and catch where I fucked up at. Cause you can't find it.

I'm an 80s baby and all people did was dance.. House parties was big throughout the 80s/90s.. If you were a person who socialize with others you would know this to be facts.. Hell some people never stopped having house gatherings.. Afro americans, africans, West indians, latins in nyc did this a lot and still do.. New yrs, bday, baby showers, etc.. Also bbqs during the summer never stopped.. It's why I knew this isolation shit was gonna end once summer hit.. I called it from the beginning that only reason isolation in nyc happened cause it was cold but once summer hit nigs was gonna bring back block parties and bbqs and guess what they did.. Niggadamous strikes again.. I been calling it since March.. Block parties, bbqs, house parties has been minority celebrations as long as I been living .. People been listen to music, dancing, and feasting since forever.. He'll I used to post this vid months ago to represent how black people do

 

[TENT]

No. I am saying that when Americans first had houses no one danced in their house.

First night clubs in New York was 1800s.

In the 1800s no one was having house parties. Because there was no music inside most houses.

Nightclubs were not taking away from what people used to do at home like you saying.

I am talking about this origin of Amphitheaters, Gyms, Theaters and Nightclubs.

You talking about the 80s and 90s.

I am talking about the creation of these businesses of entertainment and why they happened.

See how we are conflicting? Cause you mentioned ancient Africa. I admit, I wasn't thinking about Africa. I was thinking about America.

Next thread topic, I am going to make sure I make a complete long detailed post to people get where I am coming from.

I'm an 80s baby and all people did was dance.. House parties was big throughout the 80s/90s.. If you were a person who socialize with others you would know this to be facts.. Hell some people never stopped having house gatherings.. Afro americans, africans, West indians, latins in nyc did this a lot and still do.. New yrs, bday, baby showers, etc.. Also bbqs during the summer never stopped.. It's why I knew this isolation shit was gonna end once summer hit.. I called it from the beginning that only reason isolation in nyc happened cause it was cold but once summer hit nigs was gonna bring back block parties and bbqs and guess what they did.. Niggadamous strikes again.. I been calling it since March.. Block parties, bbqs, house parties has been minority celebrations as long as I been living .. People been listen to music, dancing, and feasting since forever.. He'll I used to post this vid months ago to represent how black people do

 

[tallblacknyc]

1. My main point was about sports and movie theaters. That is why I separated clubs and music to the bottom.
2. I know enough about Africa, but yes I wasn't talking about Africa.
3. We aren't in Africa and we weren't talking about Africa. This is an American board and you both know we are in America.
4. You said house parties. No one was dancing in their house were they slept. That is a fact.

So scroll back to what I original wrote and catch where I fucked up at. Cause you can't find it.

we don't need movie theaters and sports arenas.. But they exist for bizz reasons.. Bball is a less than 200 yrs old, football is less than 200 yrs old, same with baseball.. Humans were entertained in other ways b4 that.. Humans can also enjoy those things at home without going to those events.. As far as movies thanks to home entertainment you don't actually need to go to the theatre.. But some humans are gonna go regardless.. Mostly through promotion from big biz s and in certain cases tradition.. When it's all said and done big bizz gonna win cause they figured out how to convince consumers to follow their protocols

 

[TENT]

I agree 100%. We do not need it.

However they are industries and in order for them to succeed financially they need those stadiums.
They can pivot and be around but some clubs/teams are not going to.
The least popular ones can't make it without fans being engaged and that means going to the games. Imo. I could be wrong.

we don't need movie theaters and sports arenas.. But they exist for bizz reasons.. Bball is a less than 200 yrs old, football is less than 200 yrs old, same with baseball.. Humans were entertained in other ways b4 that.. Humans can also enjoy those things at home without going to those events.. As far as movies thanks to home entertainment you don't actually need to go to the theatre.. But some humans are gonna go regardless.. Mostly through promotion from big biz s and in certain cases tradition.. When it's all said and done big bizz gonna win cause they figured out how to convince consumers to follow their protocols

 

[tallblacknyc]

I agree 100%. We do not need it.

However they are industries and in order for them to succeed financially they need those stadiums.
They can pivot and be around but some clubs/teams are not going to.
The least popular ones can't make it without fans being engaged and that means going to the games. Imo. I could be wrong.

It is a temporary roadblock for big bizz.. But they will find a way to get back to normal or find some other alternative to generate income.. Like nature they will find a way to adapt due to environmental change... Right now they just trying to keep it running due to all the hidden gambling money they generate

 

[King Mob]

I really miss live music in small venues. Nothing can mimic experiencing other's creative energy at home.

 

[TENT]

Well said. Let me tell you some of the best nights I ever had was listening to live music in a small club or large restaurant/bar.
Just good times.

I really miss live music in small venues. Nothing can mimic experiencing other's creative energy at home.

 

[geechiedan]

 

[Quek9]

I still think there is a hardwired need for humans to be communally active and social groups etc.

But the internet and social media has also created, nutured, cultivated and may have created

a more isolated selfish insulated introverted individual.

Not this human, fuck people. All I need is my family.

 

[geechiedan]

Top Filmmakers Warn Congress That Movie Theaters Face Extinction


"Cinemas are an essential industry that represent the best that American talent and creativity have to offer. But now we fear for their future," states the document. "Our country cannot afford to lose the social, economic, and cultural value that theaters provide. The moviegoing experience is central to American life. Theaters are great unifiers where our nation’s most talented storytellers showcase their cinematic accomplishments."

Continuing, the letter notes that theaters "supports millions of jobs in movie production and distribution, and countless others in surrounding restaurants and retailers that rely on theaters for foot traffic. Movie theaters are also leaders in employing underrepresented groups, including people with disabilities, senior citizens, and first-time job holders."

Below are the directors, writers and producers signing the document.

Adewale Akinnuoye-Agbaje
Agustin Almodovar
Pedro Almodovar
Wes Anderson
Judd Apatow
Jon Avnet
Sean Baker
Noah Baumbach
Michael Bay
Susanne Bier
Barbara Broccoli
James Cameron
Antonio Campos
Damien Chazelle
Jon M. Chu
Sofia Coppola Alfonso Cuarón
Lee Daniels
Dean Devlin
Clint Eastwood
Andrew Erwin
Jon Erwin
Paul Feig
Shana Feste
Scott Frank
Cary Joji Fukunaga
Greta Gerwig
Evan Goldberg
Paul Greengrass
Leslie Greif
Luca Guadagnino
Catherine Hardwicke
Alma Har’el
Albert Hughes
Allen Hughes
Alejandro Gonzalez Iñárritu
Barry Jenkins
Patty Jenkins
Rian Johnson
Miranda July
Nicole Kassell
Jon Landau
Francis Lawrence
Mimi Leder
Ang Lee
Rob Letterman
Shawn Levy
Richard Linklater
James Mangold
Sam Mendes
Adam McKay
Steve McQueen
Ted Melfi
Reed Morano
Christopher Nolan
David O. Russell
Jordan Peele
Todd Phillips
Guy Ritchie
Seth Rogen
Joachim Rønning
Michael R. Roskam
Martin Scorsese
M. Night Shyamalan
Zack Snyder
Steven Soderbergh
Joey Soloway
David E. Talbert
Betty Thomas
Emma Thomas
Liesl Tommy
Denis Villeneuve
Taika Waititi
James Wan
Lulu Wang
Chris Weitz
Paul Weitz
Michael G. Wilson
Edgar Wright
Joe Wright
Cathy Yan
David Yates

Top Filmmakers Warn Congress That Movie Theaters Face Extinction

Dozens of filmmakers joined NATO, the DGA and the Motion Picture Association in urging Congress to provide assistance to theater owners impacted by COVID-19.

www.hollywoodreporter.com

 

[Mrfreddygoodbud]

Nope , going to live sporting events actually sucks . I used to go to 49ers games and that shit was an all day event. Just to get from Oakland to Candlestick was hours with traffic. Then parking and all that shit. Then all the money for everything Parking alone was $40. Then I’d always have to leave in the beginning of the 4th quarter otherwise I’d never make it home. Shit was retarded. Now they way out in Santa Clara that was it. Never and I hate them anyways. Warriors moved to Downtown SF in a horribly crowded part of the city right by the Giants stadium , not dealing with that. A’s games suck because the stadium is ass . Man I’ll just be home and movies are way over priced and most are trash

Bruh fuckin damn near 20 years ago they wanted six dollars for a gotdam

12 0z can of heinkens....

Yes I paid it...a real knigga was real thirsty..

The only sport I think is much better live is hockey ...

Everything else is much better at home..

 

[veritech]

I think Covid is forcing the issue and streaming networks are pushing the theater and stadium further away. But will they go away completely???

Will there be a day when NO ONE goes to the venue to watch movies or sports and it NOT be pandemic related??

Kinda not fair. It doesn't get much better than an Emagine Theater. That is NOT the normal theater experience.

With that said unless it's a tent pole movie at a premium theater I prefer my home theater. And those are pre covid thoughts. And I still wouldn't mind watching those types of movies at home. I'm not missing much.

As far as sports go my experience at home is way better than a stadium. Fuck that.

 

[Fright Night]

Maybe one day we can all have a TV like Ye
(2chainz on the bottom right)

theScore on Instagram: "Kanye and 2Chainz watching on a screen I’ve only seen in movie theatres [via kanyewest/twitter]"

79K likes, 373 comments - thescore on September 30, 2020: "Kanye and 2Chainz watching on a screen I’ve only seen in movie theatres [via kanyewest/twitter]".

www.instagram.com

 

[tallblacknyc]

Top Filmmakers Warn Congress That Movie Theaters Face Extinction


"Cinemas are an essential industry that represent the best that American talent and creativity have to offer. But now we fear for their future," states the document. "Our country cannot afford to lose the social, economic, and cultural value that theaters provide. The moviegoing experience is central to American life. Theaters are great unifiers where our nation’s most talented storytellers showcase their cinematic accomplishments."

Continuing, the letter notes that theaters "supports millions of jobs in movie production and distribution, and countless others in surrounding restaurants and retailers that rely on theaters for foot traffic. Movie theaters are also leaders in employing underrepresented groups, including people with disabilities, senior citizens, and first-time job holders."

Below are the directors, writers and producers signing the document.

Adewale Akinnuoye-Agbaje
Agustin Almodovar
Pedro Almodovar
Wes Anderson
Judd Apatow
Jon Avnet
Sean Baker
Noah Baumbach
Michael Bay
Susanne Bier
Barbara Broccoli
James Cameron
Antonio Campos
Damien Chazelle
Jon M. Chu
Sofia Coppola Alfonso Cuarón
Lee Daniels
Dean Devlin
Clint Eastwood
Andrew Erwin
Jon Erwin
Paul Feig
Shana Feste
Scott Frank
Cary Joji Fukunaga
Greta Gerwig
Evan Goldberg
Paul Greengrass
Leslie Greif
Luca Guadagnino
Catherine Hardwicke
Alma Har’el
Albert Hughes
Allen Hughes
Alejandro Gonzalez Iñárritu
Barry Jenkins
Patty Jenkins
Rian Johnson
Miranda July
Nicole Kassell
Jon Landau
Francis Lawrence
Mimi Leder
Ang Lee
Rob Letterman
Shawn Levy
Richard Linklater
James Mangold
Sam Mendes
Adam McKay
Steve McQueen
Ted Melfi
Reed Morano
Christopher Nolan
David O. Russell
Jordan Peele
Todd Phillips
Guy Ritchie
Seth Rogen
Joachim Rønning
Michael R. Roskam
Martin Scorsese
M. Night Shyamalan
Zack Snyder
Steven Soderbergh
Joey Soloway
David E. Talbert
Betty Thomas
Emma Thomas
Liesl Tommy
Denis Villeneuve
Taika Waititi
James Wan
Lulu Wang
Chris Weitz
Paul Weitz
Michael G. Wilson
Edgar Wright
Joe Wright
Cathy Yan
David Yates

Top Filmmakers Warn Congress That Movie Theaters Face Extinction

Dozens of filmmakers joined NATO, the DGA and the Motion Picture Association in urging Congress to provide assistance to theater owners impacted by COVID-19.

www.hollywoodreporter.com

Big biz never gives a fuck about the little man but when their genres of biz are going through a struggle they use the lil man argument on some oh god the lil person suffers the most.. fuck outta here when ya was charging 15-20 bucks or more to watch a film and charging $6 for a small popcorn ya didn’t give a fuck that on average a tix, a snack, and a beverage cost more than most lil men hourly salary..ya didn’t give discounts to the poor to see your overprice crappy flicks, now ya struggling and now you care about the underpaid popcorn maker guy..fuck outta here

 

[mrcmd187]

Top Filmmakers Warn Congress That Movie Theaters Face Extinction


"Cinemas are an essential industry that represent the best that American talent and creativity have to offer. But now we fear for their future," states the document. "Our country cannot afford to lose the social, economic, and cultural value that theaters provide. The moviegoing experience is central to American life. Theaters are great unifiers where our nation’s most talented storytellers showcase their cinematic accomplishments."

Continuing, the letter notes that theaters "supports millions of jobs in movie production and distribution, and countless others in surrounding restaurants and retailers that rely on theaters for foot traffic. Movie theaters are also leaders in employing underrepresented groups, including people with disabilities, senior citizens, and first-time job holders."

Below are the directors, writers and producers signing the document.

Adewale Akinnuoye-Agbaje
Agustin Almodovar
Pedro Almodovar
Wes Anderson
Judd Apatow
Jon Avnet
Sean Baker
Noah Baumbach
Michael Bay
Susanne Bier
Barbara Broccoli
James Cameron
Antonio Campos
Damien Chazelle
Jon M. Chu
Sofia Coppola Alfonso Cuarón
Lee Daniels
Dean Devlin
Clint Eastwood
Andrew Erwin
Jon Erwin
Paul Feig
Shana Feste
Scott Frank
Cary Joji Fukunaga
Greta Gerwig
Evan Goldberg
Paul Greengrass
Leslie Greif
Luca Guadagnino
Catherine Hardwicke
Alma Har’el
Albert Hughes
Allen Hughes
Alejandro Gonzalez Iñárritu
Barry Jenkins
Patty Jenkins
Rian Johnson
Miranda July
Nicole Kassell
Jon Landau
Francis Lawrence
Mimi Leder
Ang Lee
Rob Letterman
Shawn Levy
Richard Linklater
James Mangold
Sam Mendes
Adam McKay
Steve McQueen
Ted Melfi
Reed Morano
Christopher Nolan
David O. Russell
Jordan Peele
Todd Phillips
Guy Ritchie
Seth Rogen
Joachim Rønning
Michael R. Roskam
Martin Scorsese
M. Night Shyamalan
Zack Snyder
Steven Soderbergh
Joey Soloway
David E. Talbert
Betty Thomas
Emma Thomas
Liesl Tommy
Denis Villeneuve
Taika Waititi
James Wan
Lulu Wang
Chris Weitz
Paul Weitz
Michael G. Wilson
Edgar Wright
Joe Wright
Cathy Yan
David Yates

Top Filmmakers Warn Congress That Movie Theaters Face Extinction

Dozens of filmmakers joined NATO, the DGA and the Motion Picture Association in urging Congress to provide assistance to theater owners impacted by COVID-19.

www.hollywoodreporter.com

Not extinction lower budgets and payouts

 

[HAR125LEM]

I've been beyond pissed about the (Real) IMAX and Dolby Cinema theaters being closed in NYC.
Because those are the only theaters I go to see movies in.
I'm not about to head over to Jersey to see those films I've been waiting for on a "regular" screen either.

It's bad enough I couldn't see "TENET" and "MULAN" on a large screen.
But Man...
"WONDER WOMAN 1984"?
"NO TIME TO DIE"?
"DUNE"?
Those films demand large screen viewing.

I just upgraded my home theater this summer too.
But I believe we are heading to a point now that movies that are deemed "EPIC" are going to be Event showings only.
I've said this many times on various forums.
Dramas, Comedies, Horror, Foreign, etc are more geared towards home viewing.
That's why I stop going to see those genres in theaters years ago.

Theater chains (along with studios) bit themselves in the ASS decades ago building all these multi-plexes with their small screens and shit.
Instead of renovating larger Single-Screen theaters and auditoriums.
Or forgoing larger theaters all together.

Can you imagine watching the MARVEL films on anything less than IMAX, Dolby Cinema, RPX, or other special theater formats?
Any Nolan Flick?
The Guy who actually shoots with IMAX cameras?

 

[code_pirahna]

Going live to a game is still nice but the other parts such as parking the weather etc make a nice home situation pretty close in enjoyment to going to the event live.

 

[King Mob]

Look - regardless of where we are with Covid, I'm watching the rest of the Avatar movies in the theater.

 

[geechiedan]

Regal Cinemas Closing All U.S. Theaters After No Time to Die Delay
Hours after news surfaced Cineworld was shuttering all locations in the United Kingdom until 2021, the company has announced a similar decision for all Regal Cinemas in the United States. The latest round of closings is the company's direct response to MGM delaying No Time to Die, a movie that was bumped from November to next April. With No Time to Die off the 2020 release slate for exhibitors, that leaves just Warner Brothers' Dune and Wonder Woman 1984, two movies all but guaranteed to be pushed back even further should more chains choose to follow suit.

Regal is the second-largest theater chain in the United States behind AMC Theatres and as of now, it's unclear when the company plans to reopen the locations, both stateside and abroad. The closures are expected to impact at least 5,500 employees in the United Kingdom and upwards of 28,000 employees in the United States.

According to a Variety report, the chains could be closed until next year at the earliest. The news first surfaced via an advance peek at the front page of Britain's The Sunday Times. Cineworld Action Group, an employee group that's partnered with Bectu to provide an employee union, commented on the matter, revealing the entire group found out about the closures through social media.

We have found out vital information about our jobs from the media throughout the pandemic. Workers have been left out of discussions that should’ve included our voices. However, in this case it goes beyond belief. To find out you may no longer have a job from the media is awful.
— Cineworld Action Group (@cineactiongroup) October 3, 2020

As of this writing, the employees have yet to be contacted by the chain.


"We have found out vital information about our jobs from the media throughout the pandemic," Cineworld Action Group tweeted. "Workers have been left out of discussions that should've included our voices. However, in this case it goes beyond belief. To find out you may no longer have a job from the media is awful."




“If we don’t have any movies until we’re fully vaccinated as a world, a lot of the theater companies are going to be gone and the theaters themselves won’t be there,” the exec said. “So your infrastructure to play your movies and get grosses will not be the same. This idea of waiting out the pandemic to make your movies more profitable doesn’t make sense to me. There won’t be as much of an industry left to play your movies in if you do that.”

Regal Cinemas Closing All U.S. Theaters After No Time to Die Delay

Hours after news surfaced Cineworld was shuttering all locations in the United Kingdom until 2021, [...]

comicbook.com

 

[geechiedan]

Look - regardless of where we are with Covid, I'm watching the rest of the Avatar movies in the theater.

looks like that might not happen

 

[King Mob]

looks like that might not happen

part 2 isn't supposed to release until Dec 2021? I'll check back...

 

[geechiedan]

I think theyre going to have to rethink and tweak the business model of theatrical release BUT I don't think the shared community experience of theaters is going away. In fact people are trying to recreate it in their homes with large screens and theater recliners and watch parties etc.

People by and large still like to congregate for/over an event and quite frankly theres nothing like being in the theater and experiencing a happening with a room full of people.

In 1980 when this scene happened....



or this one in 1999


EVERYONE in the packed theaters spontaneously broke out into applause and cheers.... young, old, black, white, rich, poor, parents, kids, friends, strangers....no matter who....WE ALL FELT THOSE SCENES AT THE SAME TIME, TOGETHER. You can't recreate that experience in your living room or mancave.

Hell there are some movies I'd RATHER see in the theater than at home.

 

[geechiedan]

 

[geechiedan]