Ed Sheeran Sued for $100 Mil for Ripping Off Marvin Gaye Let's Get it On

[Gemini]

Ed Sheeranis on the receiving end of a monster $100 million lawsuit by a company claiming the singer ripped off aMarvin Gayeclassic.

A company called Structured Asset Sales filed the lawsuit, claiming Ed's song, "Thinking Out Loud," is a carbon copy of Gaye's "Let's Get it On."

According to the lawsuit, Sheeran's song has the same melody, rhythms, harmonies, drums, bassline, backing chorus, tempo, syncopation and looping as "Let's Get it On."





Gaye's song was written by a guy named Edward Townsend and Gaye in 1973. Townsend died in 2003, and Structured Asset Sales bought one third of the copyright. So, take that in ... the claim is that just 1/3 of the song is worth $100 MIL!.

Sheeran's song was a huge hit ... nominated for a Grammy for Best Record, Best Performance and Song of the Year in 2016.

And, according to the docs, Ed's single and the album it's on -- "X" -- sold more than 15 million copies and the song has been played on YouTube more than a billion times.

Sheeran hasalready been suedby Townsend's heirs. No word if the Gaye family might also sue.

http://www.tmz.com/2018/06/28/ed-sheeran-sued-thinking-out-loud-lets-get-it-on-marvin-gaye/

 

[Gemini]

 

[shaddyvillethug]

How this company own

Nevermind

 

[dtownsfinest]

I was wondering why this didn't happen sooner.....and his new song....sounds a lot like Rkelly's If I Can Turn Back The Hands of Time.

 

[Gemini]

Ed Sheeran - Thinking Out Loud (Instrumental Official)


Marvin Gaye - Let's Get It On (Official Instrumental)

 

[dasmybikepunk]

My ear is not keen enuf to hear it right away but that does not stop me from believing it's possible, shits been going on for many decades, the nerve.

 

[fonzerrillii]

I was wondering why this didn't happen sooner.....and his new song....sounds a lot like Rkelly's If I Can Turn Back The Hands of Time.

Hold up fam...

You think these sound alike but don’t think American Pharaoh has a case against This is America?

 

[fonzerrillii]

And yeah I didn’t think about it but these definitely sound alike.

I think the biggest problem with music is that Subconscious plagiarism is a real thing and it’s also an actionable claim....

Ed might as well open up the wallet

 

[playahaitian]

And yeah I didn’t think about it but these definitely sound alike.

I think the biggest problem with music is that Subconscious plagiarism is a real thing and it’s also an actionable claim....

Ed might as well open up the wallet

I gotta listen again

didn't homeboy JUST get knocked for jacking TLC?

update:

https://www.bgol.us/forum/threads/m...no-scrubs-songwriters-to-shape-of-you.962006/

 

[Dr. Truth]

There’s only so many chord progressions this is bound to happen at some point . Damn near every song could be a rip off of another because you get influenced one way or another from stuff you’ve heard. It’s why most producers try hard not to listen to other peoples shit.

 

[therealjondoe]

What's up with The Weeknd joint that sounds just like R Kelly Feeling on your booty?

 

[dtownsfinest]

Hold up fam...

You think these sound alike but don’t think American Pharaoh has a case against This is America?

Naw I'm not hearing it lol. I don't even know if these people have a case.....but initially when I first heard it I thought that shit sounded like Let's Get It On.

 

[sammyjax]

most producers try hard not to listen to other peoples shit.

negative

And there's ten damn numerals and still infinite prime numbers. Similar chord progressions, melodies, tempos, rhythm, and structure don't all happen at the same time by coincidence.

I always heard it in this one and frankly im surprised no one called it sooner

 

[nworba]

Looks like marvin gone lose this one.

 

[Dr. Truth]

negative

And there's ten damn numerals and still infinite prime numbers. Similar chord progressions, melodies, tempos, rhythm, and structure don't all happen at the same time by coincidence.

I always heard it in this one and frankly im surprised no one called it sooner

If working on an album you’re not listening to other niggas shit because you’ll start sounding like that. The reason so much shit sounds the same is because labels want it that way . I need a track like so in so.

 

[bgbtylvr]

He’s white so he did it.

 

[sammyjax]

If working on an album you’re not listening to other niggas shit because you’ll start sounding like that. The reason so much shit sounds the same is because labels want it that way . I need a track like so in so.

No such thing as music without influence

That's like saying anyone who ever produced or wrote music never studied it.

You can play around with all kinds of elements you heard here or there. Practice, experiment, whatever. Playing, sequencing, building, tracking, mixing all those elements is a very deliberate process and the are no fucking 24 track accidents.

Show me a nigga that can't produce without sounding like someone else because he heard them and I'll show you a fraud ass 'producer'.

 

[Timbucktu225]

They don't have a case, they are similar in certain ways but not enough to sue.

 

[Dr. Truth]

No such thing as music without influence

That's like saying anyone who ever produced or wrote music never studied it.

You can play around with all kinds of elements you heard here or there. Practice, experiment, whatever. Playing, sequencing, building, tracking, mixing all those elements is a very deliberate process and the are no fucking 24 track accidents.

Show me a nigga that can't produce without sounding like someone else because he heard them and I'll show you a fraud ass 'producer'.

Then tell everybody suing people to shut the fuck up

 

[sammyjax]

Then tell everybody suing people to shut the fuck up

I don't understand what you mean by this.

My point is that listening to/hearing/studying other music is inherently part of making music. But that fact does not prevent original music from being made. And if a nigga can't sit down to make his own shit without biting the last shit he heard, he ain't no fucking real producer.

I can listen to Stevie and go make a track with heavy staccato clav without the shit sounding like superstitious. IF I know what the fuck im doing and have my own ideas and ability vs just having some equipment and lax enough musical ethics to let an obvious bite leave my fucking studio.

 

[largebillsonlyplease]

If working on an album you’re not listening to other niggas shit because you’ll start sounding like that. The reason so much shit sounds the same is because labels want it that way . I need a track like so in so.

I listen to other people shit so I can make sure I don't do what they're doing
If something is good its easy to accidentally emulate the same thing because...it's good..it feels right
the challenge is to find your own feel good lane.

 

[sammyjax]

I listen to other people shit so I can make sure I don't do what they're doing
If something is good its easy to accidentally emulate the same thing because...it's good..it feels right
the challenge is to find your own feel good lane.

A conscientious producer recognizes the line between influence and emulation. An ethical one does not promote and sell the latter as original product.

Play around with a new style all day, dig all in and around that muhfucka, hell play exact parts of shit you heard and liked. Interpolate yo ass off. But At the end of the day, credit the originator or make it your own and not the way they changed one key on Conan Obrien to not pay the licensing. Practice and publishing are way fucking different animals.

Clearly it happens, but that don't make it okay.

 

[largebillsonlyplease]

A conscientious producer recognizes the line between influence and emulation. An ethical one does not promote and sell the latter as original product.

Play around with a new style all day, dig all in and around that muhfucka, hell play exact parts of shit you heard and liked. Interpolate yo ass off. But At the end of the day, credit the originator or make it your own and not the way they changed one key on Conan Obrien to not pay the licensing. Practice and publishing are way fucking different animals.

Clearly it happens, but that don't make it okay.

Oh I wasn't even talking about Ed Shereen lol I was just talking about the notion of not listening to anyone while you're making something or working on a project
Ed ripped this shit off he should pay.

 

[sammyjax]

Oh I wasn't even talking about Ed Shereen lol I was just talking about the notion of not listening to anyone while you're making something or working on a project
Ed ripped this shit off he should pay.

Yeah my post wasn't in opposition to yours. I heard that when I first heard this joint, also fuck Ed sheeran.

I have heavy Dre, mannie, and timbo percussive influences. You can hear it in my stuff if your ear is tuned for such things, but I've never done a bite track.

I listen to hella barry white sand James brown shit when I'm trying to get a lush arrangement together. But the results are not bites.

Everybody used to have the same pieces in their bands, that didn't make their shit sound the same unless they were just like fuck it. White folks been doing it damn near from day one, which should tell you right there it's an unethical choice made by less than creative "creatives".

 

[largebillsonlyplease]

Yeah my post wasn't in opposition to yours. I heard that when I first heard this joint, also fuck Ed sheeran.

I have heavy Dre, mannie, and timbo percussive influences. You can hear it in my stuff if your ear is tuned for such things, but I've never done a bite track.

I listen to hella barry white sand James brown shit when I'm trying to get a lush arrangement together. But the results are not bites.

Everybody used to have the same pieces in their bands, that didn't make their shit sound the same unless they were just like fuck it. White folks been doing it damn near from day one, which should tell you right there it's an unethical choice made by less than creative "creatives".

Agreed with influence.
Influence helps you push things forward
Taking something then freaking it
Not copying exact.

We agree on all points

 

[Dr. Truth]

I don't understand what you mean by this.

My point is that listening to/hearing/studying other music is inherently part of making music. But that fact does not prevent original music from being made. And if a nigga can't sit down to make his own shit without biting the last shit he heard, he ain't no fucking real producer.

I can listen to Stevie and go make a track with heavy staccato clav without the shit sounding like superstitious. IF I know what the fuck im doing and have my own ideas and ability vs just having some equipment and lax enough musical ethics to let an obvious bite leave my fucking studio.

To you that’s influence to Ambulance chasers that’s stealing.

 

[sammyjax]

To you that’s influence to Ambulance chasers that’s stealing.

Shouldn't nobody ever be able to chase a real producer's amalamps

 

[Amajorfucup]

This ones a bit of a stretch.

 

[Dr. Truth]

Shouldn't nobody ever be able to chase a real producer's amalamps

Every producer has been accused of this. Literally every single one.

 

[silentking]

minus the lead vocal, its a strong case. In my opinion, stronger than some others we've entertained on this board recently. And keep in mind, this company isn't the first to bring this suit. The heirs of the co-writer of Let'sGet it On sued first.

 

[ak_rep]

I done heard so many shavings off of Marvin's songs/ music. There's more lawsuits that could've happened in the past.

 

[sammyjax]

Every producer has been accused of this. Literally every single one.

fake news

You on a serious campaign over there homie lol your catalog definitely 68% great value versions of top 100s

 

[ansatsusha_gouki]

How can someone not hear the sample.....It's a blatant ripoff....​

 

[Dr. Truth]

fake news

You on a serious campaign over there homie lol your catalog definitely 68% great value versions of top 100s

How is it fake news? You can’t name one person who has not been accused by somebody of jacking them. From some sound cloud idiot to some other guys lawyer, Pharrell, Dre, Timbaland etc everybody’s been called out for likelness it is what it is.

Just because you don’t think you sound like somebody somebody else will have a different opinion. And yes niggas steal from no name producers all the time these are facts. Big names famous cats be jacking people.

 

[sammyjax]

How is it fake news? You can’t name one person who has not been accused by somebody of jacking them. From some sound cloud idiot to some other guys lawyer, Pharrell, Dre, Timbaland etc everybody’s been called out for likelness it is what it is.

Just because you don’t think you sound like somebody somebody else will have a different opinion. And yes niggas steal from no name producers all the time these are facts. Big names famous cats be jacking people.

Dogs, because you can name a couple niggas don't make that the rule. And let's be real here, most of that with bigger named producers is gonna be SAMPLE CLEARANCE issues, not jacking songs damn near whole cloth and acting like wha who me?

Aside from Pharrell and Robin Thicke, what other producers had similar cases? The two other niggas you named haven't even been accused of that shit man lol you making stuff up.

Also, there's literally thousands of producers out here. Actual working producers and not niggas with fruity on a laptop that wouldn't recognize their own music if they heard it played through actual reference monitors. To state that these cases are the norm is just false bro.

Cite the cases though and prove me wrong.