Every Marvel Movie Villain Ranked from Worst to Best
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Why cats in here tryna derail a MARVEL MOVIE thread with DC television characters?
Make another thread for that shit.
Make another thread for that shit.
Whoever made this list been reading bgol. lol
I posed the same question in the discussion thread.
I posed the same question in the discussion thread.
Funny enough I was watching this last night and Zod and Killmonger had a lot in common. Both wanted to save their people at all cost.
Zod was that dude and so was his squad
The people come before all others.
While it is not necessary for a great villain to have depth, it helps.
We all know movies to be fantasy, make believe, but when the motivations of a character make sense the entire project benefits in my opinion.
Killmonger isn't a villan
Magneto Should be on this list
That's not MCU
He kind of was. He killed innocent people and wanted to start wars.
who was innocent?
Zuri. His girl, what did she do to him?
even tho she didn’t do anything to him she is far from innocent...she was complicit in everything he did
I agree with this list. (Pretty much...)
But I think they left out and flat out underrated the sheer villainy of Armin Zola.
Think about it...
Zola was DIRECTLY RESPONSIBLE for the creation of:
Who was (essentially) a brain washed assassin who killed dozens of people throughout the decades and who PERSONALLY killed:
the parents of ...
And while he was captured, Zola STILL managed to infiltrate and place Hydra agents
deep into
I mean; even though the Red Skull created Hydra, it was Zola who successfully put the Hydra Protocols into place using his "Special Algorithm".
Thus bringing about the events in:
which ultimately led to
where T'Chaka was killed
And finally culminating (in part) to the events of:
Food for thought....
But I think they left out and flat out underrated the sheer villainy of Armin Zola.
Think about it...
Zola was DIRECTLY RESPONSIBLE for the creation of:
Who was (essentially) a brain washed assassin who killed dozens of people throughout the decades and who PERSONALLY killed:
And while he was captured, Zola STILL managed to infiltrate and place Hydra agents
I mean; even though the Red Skull created Hydra, it was Zola who successfully put the Hydra Protocols into place using his "Special Algorithm".
Thus bringing about the events in:
And finally culminating (in part) to the events of:
Food for thought....
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Shit you Jus's explained why winter soldier number 1... Look at his kill count... He killed tony stark parents, black panthers father, almost killed nick fury, almost killed iron man, cause the civil war, reason why captain america on the run... Winter soldier for the winI agree with this list. (Pretty much...)
But I think they left out and flat out underrated the sheer villainy of Armin Zola.
Think about it...
Zola was DIRECTLY RESPONSIBLE for the creation of:
Who was (essentially) a brain washed assassin who killed dozens of people throughout the decades and who PERSONALLY killed:
the parents of ...
And while he was captured, Zola STILL managed to infiltrate and place Hydra agentsdeep into
I mean; even though the Red Skull created Hydra, it was Zola who successfully put the Hydra Protocols into place using his "Special Algorithm".
Thus bringing about the events in:which ultimately led towhere T'Chaka was killed
And finally culminating (in part) to the events of:
Food for thought....
Killermonger number 2
He damn near destroyed wakanda in 48 hrs under his rule... Had a bunch of people killed in a museum, killed his fling, was about to have billions slaughtered that wasn't black... 4 billion people were gonna get slaughtered or enslaved.. You kno that 4 billion ain't Jus's euros right?
Yes he is, just not in the traditional sense.
There is no all encompassing answer here.
Its all about the story you want to tell and how the villain fits into that.
I feel like the weakest villain in MCU was probably Kaecilious, and its true he was given zero depth and that hurt the character alot. Nobody knew what the fuck he was trying to do and why. Dude was boring.
Winter Soldier had no depth but every scene he was in was classic.
Shit, I'm still mad The Leader was never fully developed
totally disagree. the villians had depth. what we saw on screen were simply tools. there was motive and rationale.
Nah, bro.
Remember, Winter Soldier didn't kill T'Chaka.
Zemo actually killed him in the explosion and FRAMED Winter Soldier for it.
Nor did Bucky cause the Civil War. The Civil War was about Cap and other heroes REFUSAL to sign The Sicovia Accords.
(That's why Cap is actually on the run).
When it comes to Winter Soldier in Civil War, Cap was trying to:
- Clear Bucky of the murders Zemo framed him for.
- To safely bring him in.
- To prove he was not responsible for his actions due to his brain washing at the hands of Zola.
that is why i often refer to him as antagonist.
measuring an antagonist by kill count isn't a measuring stick for how great a "villian" they are. IMO.
Huh?
Their motive is a computer program.
They had no rational. They never had to think, therefore they never had to rationalize anything. All they did was follow their programming.
Thats not depth man.
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You are correct.. But winter soldier did kill starks parents which was gonna cause friction and separation regardless.. I actually meant the battle of iron man/ captain... The divide was gonna come due to captain being loyal to buckyNah, bro.
Remember, Winter Soldier didn't kill T'Chaka.
Zemo actually killed him in the explosion and FRAMED Winter Soldier for it.
Nor did Bucky cause the Civil War. The Civil War was about Cap and other heroes REFUSAL to sign The Sicovia Accords.
(That's why Cap is actually on the run).
When it comes to Winter Soldier in Civil War, Cap was trying to:
- Clear Bucky of the murders Zemo framed him for.
- To safely bring him in.
- To prove he was not responsible for his actions due to his brain washing at the hands of Zola.
i disagree. we can agree to disagree.
the rationale is that humans pose a threat to skynet's existence. thus the humans need to be exterminated. skynet was a sentient AI.
and keeping it real the first terminator movie was pretty much a horror flick with sci fi elements. no one was expecting a franchise off of that. it took off and became the phenomenon we now know. alot of the lore was written in terminator 2 after the success of the first one.
horror films generally have thin antagonists. the first friday the 13th movie wasn't even really about jason. it was about his mother. but people don't know that anymore. jason is a paper thin antagonist. his mother was not.
i still contend that the strength of a movie is determined by how well fleshed out the antagonist is. nothing is absolute. but my favorite films by far have the protagonist overcoming substantial odds or the antagonist coming out ahead.
