Her and Misty were beefing on Twitter for a while(Holly brought up that one of her relatives no longer talks to her cause of her profession or something like that),then Misty went off on her saying she should "go step out in the street in front of a truck" etc..
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Okay, I'm one of two people who remarked on the "racist" thing so I'll assume this was addressed to me. Allow me to retort.
First of all, I didn't "defend" Belle Knox. I really don't know that much about her. Even during her short run in the industry, I found her completely uninteresting and paid little attention to her. So no... I have no idea if she is actually racist or not. You seem to suggest that you know stuff about her that confirms she is. Okay, that's fine. If you know something, I wish you would have shared it with us. Because saying she's racist just because she didn't do IR... I'm sorry, that just doesn't cut it.
I have to admit, I used to think the same way. I used to get angry when girls didn't fuck black dudes and I assumed they were bigots. But then I grew up. I learned more about the porn world--and about the world in general--and I realized that this is an extremely small-minded way of thinking. I came to understand that there are all sorts of reasons why girls don't do IR.
For instance, you have some girls who don't do scenes with black guys but date black guys in real life (eg Alexis Texas allegedly, Isis Taylor). For whatever reason, sometimes their black boyfriends don't want them fucking other black guys... maybe they're okay with her doing white guys because they feel less threatened by them.
Then you got girls who date ONLY black guys in real life (Leah Gotti, Ricki White), but at some point decide they're not going to shoot IR anymore--because they feel the niggas in the industry are too rough/creepy/unprofessional, or the companies that specialize in IR content are shady and not great at paying people on time.
And then you factor in the industry incentives: Like how girls often make more money by delaying their first IR shoot and turning it into a major event. (I'm not sure this is still the case, btw... but we all know it used to be) If a girl hasn't done IR yet, maybe she's just biding her time to negotiate the highest possible payday. This is a business--not a social justice movement. Sometimes a girl may end up dropping out of the game before she ever gets that payday... it happens. But it doesn't mean she is racist.
There are lots of other reasons I won't get into, but the bottom line is that I usually require a fairly high bar of evidence before I call someone "racist." Like, show me her tweets where she was talking some white supremacist shit, and I'll be there marching right beside you. But I ain't gonna call someone a racist just because she didn't choose to put a black dick in her mouth when I wanted to see her do that.
I am Black. Extremely pro-Black and conscious, in fact. But I'm also the kind of Black person who doesn't like to be too quick to call people "racist" without strong proof. Because I feel unfortunately, a lot of our people throw the word "racist" around too easily, over every little thing... to the point that "racist" is actually losing its meaning. And I take racism seriously. I don't think it's a word we should joke with, because it devalues the sacrifices of our ancestors.
If you think all that makes me a "coon"... so be it. I lose not a wink of sleep over you thinking that. I'm very secure in who I am and what I believe.
Thanks for the info!
But why did Misty go off on Holly because of Holly's relative distancing themself from her? I'm not really following.
Hey man, reasonable people can diagree, but I have to say fuck what you just wrote. A high bar for racism? Brother please. A bitch don't have to be a Klan member or neo-nazi to be racist. Fuck the dumb shit and all these mental acrobatics to try to absolve white people of racism. If the only reason a bitch won't suck a dick is because it's Black then the bitch is racist. That's like textbook racism. I couldn't care less about what the pretext is for why she won't suck the Black dick if the ultimate reason is because it's Black. Black people really need to stop making excuses for white people's fucked up behavior toward us. We give white people the benefit of the doubt more than we give ourselves the benefit of the doubt. Fuck that. Your Pro-Blackness is different from mine. And that's cool. We just have to agree to disagree on this one. And I still say fuck ugly ass Belle Knox. And her mammy.
Hmm.
Seems you have developed a nasty habit of thinking things through. That will get you in trouble here.
Just sayin'.
Probably cause said relative was still in high school back then,and his friends kept trying to hang around his place asking "when your cousin coming by to visit,she bringing Misty Stone(or some other porn chick Holly worked with) with her..?" etc
I think Belle is very attractive. Kinda dumb, kind young, but hot has hell, physically speaking.
I could not care less what color dude she is fucking; she ain't fucking me. That's about the only think about her fucking
that pisses me off, I guess.
I will never understand (nor do I desire to) why people get pissed off about someone who won't fuck black men.
I lost interest in African AMERICAN women long ago. I am not racist. I prefer Latinas (Black, White, Native, all in one fine assed package:fine as fine gets).
That does not make me a racist.
Look dude, ain't nobody pissed off about Belle Knox's ugly ass. I wouldn't even fuck Belle Knox with a borrowed dick. But none of that has shit to do with anything. The bitch showed herself to be racist. Ain't nobody mad about it. Just calling it for what it is. And that other stuff you interjected, I have my opinions but whatever. I'm back to talking about ex hoes per the thread's intent. It's pretty clear no one is going to change anyone else's mind about this, so we can beat the horse, or we can move on. But I stand on what I said and I mean that shit.
I would argue that caring about white people's alleged racism as much as you do gives WAY more power over you than they should have. They're in your head, got you thinking about what they thinking all the time. Personally, I don't give a fuck.
Unless a white person is explicitly acting out an ideology that directly harms me or my people... I don't care that much what their personal attitudes towards race are.
ESPECIALLY in porn. When I'm watching a scene, I don't care too much about the performers' attitudes towards race, anymore than I am thinking about how they feel about veganism, whether they like anime or not, if they recycle their plastics, what kind of relationship they have with their siblings, etc.
I mean, most of y'all barely even look at these girls as full human beings... why you so bothered by their racial views?
People on Twitter saying Zion Williamson Baby Mom did porn and shot for Ghetto Gaggers can anyone verify this?
No need to argue Player. We just some Black men sciencing it out. Racial dynamics are constantly present. ESPECIALLY in porn. But I guess that's okay with a lot of people because they're beating their meat so they not conscious of it. Or maybe they are but like you said they looking at ass and titties so they don't give a fuck. I think I like ass and titties as much as the next man but my consciousness is always at work. Ass and titties don't change that. And just so you know I rarely think of Belle Knox ugly ass. The only reason I did then was because someone posted her pic. But when I do see that bitch I know she racist.
They talking about that bullshit coon ass Moriah Mills posted about being pregnant by him. Now watch some dudes get on here caping for her sellout ass.
I need to find her man.
Y’all finding all these irrelevant ass whores but can’t find the only one that matters smh
That would be a good find. Her ass cheeks were awesome. But we get page after page of latina hoes with white boys. On Black Girl Online. It is something to think about I guess.
I don't want to prolong this exchange because this really isn't the best forum for an in-depth discussion of this topic. But I do want to clarify something.
I'm not some dumb coomer who loses brain function at the sight of ass and titties. Of COURSE I understand and am acutely aware of the various social subtexts in porn--whether it has to do with race, class, gender, the conceptions of masculinity and femininity, deviance, the current obsession with incest/step-daughters, step-siblings etc.
I think where I differ is that I view porn as a kind of fantasy zone. It's almost like a safe space where we are able to air some of these psychological tensions without judgment.
Like, some people take shit in porn very personally.... stuff like, say, race play. Like those movies where white women fuck black men and call them n****rs, or slavery fetishes, cuckoldry etc. They feel the participants in these games are actually racist.
I dont think they are.
I believe that in America, we as a society at large are burdened down with a ton of psychic baggage regarding race, violence, sex and other shit. It's because of our unique history. You look at porn from other countries and it doesn't have the same flavor as American porn. Like in French porn, a lot of the anxiety seems to be around Arabs/Muslims much more than black men.
So these anxieties are embedded in us all as Americans... and they manifest in a number of ways. Shit like slavery porn is just a way of trying to engage and reckon with that psychological trauma through a form of play. Like how comedy is often a way of dealing with painful subjects through laughter.
That's how I was able to tolerate the existence of something like Ghetto Gaggers (not that I was ever a big fan). I saw it as a form of exorcism of psychosexual demons than real, actual racism.
However, my attitude towards GG changed during the Trump era when the guys started very actively tweeting their racist views... and their videos got more violent and hateful. And then one of them got busted for actually trying to kill black people in real life. I couldn't look at it like a game anymore.
But outside of that... to me, it is slightly weird being obsessed with whether or not the performers in porn might bear racial prejudices in real life. Like I said, this thread shows that most of y'all don't even regard them as human beings worthy of dignity or respect... so why do you care about their personal opinions on ANYTHING? In the course of doing their work, they are objectified to the point that they're barely looked at as real people. The truth is, the average viewer is there to watch bodies in motion... the thoughts in their heads are largely irrelevant for most. (Except for people like us who are interested in the behind-the-scenes. But even then, I dont see it as being overly relevant.)
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You know it's hard because so ma y people want to be entertained instead looking at what's right on front of them. Now I do feel what the other guy is saying about having all of your facts straight before you claim something. But those excuses was use back when interracial porn wasn't as big as it is now. With the being the case those claims are really invalid now and it obviously who is who now. Now Nikki benz said the same thing about how Alexis texas and others like her will have black boyfriends who dont want them to shoot with black men. Looking at this from a logical point of view how many times when hear this was the case with white women and their white boyfriends or white men period didn't want them to have sex with black men on or off film compare to black men. Granted it can be true to a certain extent but not enough where it can the reason for the vast majority of why they dont want fo shoot with black men. Interracial or black companies who shoot back in the day with bad business practices yes that could be the reason to but it's not like any of them point a gun to their head and said you have to shoot with them. These are grown women and if they cant handle their business that's on them and you saying g because they shoot with bad companies that turn them off to shooting with black men ever again. What about other white and non whites females who shoot with them and never had any problems at all.
The other is the one pregnant tho. ( yea moriah never ever shot with a black now you a side chick to one )
Moriah saying that the baby mama is a wannabe porn star and someone said the baby mom did ghetto
Actually, this did and does happen quite a lot. Back in the days you would hear a lot of girls say that they personally have no issue with shooting IR but they have avoided it either because their agents/managers keep them from it, or because they know it will anger and alienate their white male fan base.
I remember a few years ago when some white boy was crawling all over social media, crying about how much he loves Lena Paul but he's hurt because she insists on fucking black men on camera. Finally, he confronted her on Twitter and demanded she stop or he'll doxx her. Soon after, she put out an IR scene and the dude lost his mind, blasted out her government name, her address, her alma mater, her family members.
And there have been some stories of certain girls who said that the studios started paying them less once they started doing a lot of IR, like their value went down because of it.
The SYSTEM is racist, yes... that's why we talk about systemic racism. But I'm not necessarily gonna blame people for doing their best to survive in that system. They're in this game to make money, not to be freedom fighters.
Again, why you should not assume that who a girl fucks or doesn't fuck on screen necessarily reflects her biases or preferences in real life.
Porn is not reality.
I was comparing to the reason you give when you said that they dont shoot with black men because of their black boyfriends. Now compare that reason to the reason when it comes to their white boyfriends and white men in general having problems with them shooting with black men and you will find it far more common than the whole black boyfriend having a issue with it. Even if that's a issue it will be in very small numbers to the point it cant account for the vast majority of white women not wanting to shoot with black men.
Zion a sucka ass nigga them hoes bath water smell like black n milds n nut
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Thanks brother
Does Taylor Swift even care about "Black Twitter" anyway?Speaking of ghetto gaggers
Black Twitter Drags Taylor Swift For Dating Matty Healy After He Admitted To Masturbating To 'Ghetto Gaggers' Which 'Humiliates' Black Women
Taylor Swift fans are angry with the singer for dating Matty Healy due to his recent interview on 'The Adam Friedland Show.'
@joegrine I'll keep it a buck the porn industry is racist even down to the dirty hoes, agents, producers and production companies. Black porn products sell themselves, the money trickling down to black producers/talent is pennies compared to white companies/talent. If a black girl wants to go far in porn she better be ready to sell her soul. How many top tier black talent is out right now? How many black performers own production companies right now? White girl careers are industry backed. Yes the industry runs through them royally aswell but they follow directions from the racist production company owners, agents and producers. If you benefit from racism you're racist. How much black female talent do you see on the agency sites below? Then you wonder how all these black talent ended up @ Ghettogaggers, it's all by design.
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I feel you except for the "If you benefit from racism, you're racist" thing. Life is not that simple and reductive.
The electric communication device you typed your post on probably functions due to the element coltan, which is typically mined by laborers in Congo, working for slave wages. Little kids forced to mine this ore so people in the West can enjoy their iPhones and fancy laptops, these kids often losing their lives in the process.
Now this situation sucks. And you could argue that you and I are to some degree complicit because we help fuel the demand. But seriously... are WE the ones who enslaved those kids? Are WE the ones pocketing the billions in profit from their labor. No... in many ways, we are victims too. Because we're paying thousands of dollars for shitty gadgets that cost like $14 to manufacture. We're all caught up in this matrix.
Same as if you eat chocolate. Did YOU enslave the villagers in Cote d'Ivoire who are forced to pick the cacao to make that Kit-Kat bar? Are YOU profiting from it?
Did YOU make the decision to kill millions of people in the Middle East so that you could afford to gas up your car?
I don't know if you are aware of the amount of atrocities America enacts around the world in order to maintain the high standard living in this country. If you're an American, you benefit from this. Does that mean that YOU are a murderous, exploitative, thieving rapist?
She probably was watching it right alongside himSpeaking of ghetto gaggers
Black Twitter Drags Taylor Swift For Dating Matty Healy After He Admitted To Masturbating To 'Ghetto Gaggers' Which 'Humiliates' Black Women
Taylor Swift fans are angry with the singer for dating Matty Healy due to his recent interview on 'The Adam Friedland Show.'
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Then just skip those posts and keep it moving, same way I skip most of your incoherent ramblings. *shrug*
What am I reading ? Women who do porn might be racist and should thus be cancelled?
When it comes to porn, Except it's real consensual homegrown and leaked, it is 100% guaranteed NOT to be real!!!
In short, people's motivation for fucking on camera is as varied as their reasons for eating whatever they eat for breakfast.
I personally don't care if a woman only fucks Congolese pygmies, if I like how she fucks, I will probably watch it.
Like I've said before , I'm not into male talent, but there is male talent that I don't like because their game is weak, conversly, I've found it easier to relate to scenes with dudes whose dicks are the same size and girth as mine as it allows me to appreciate the scene more.
When it comes to porn, Except it's real consensual homegrown and leaked, it is 100% guaranteed NOT to be real!!!
In short, people's motivation for fucking on camera is as varied as their reasons for eating whatever they eat for breakfast.
I personally don't care if a woman only fucks Congolese pygmies, if I like how she fucks, I will probably watch it.
Like I've said before , I'm not into male talent, but there is male talent that I don't like because their game is weak, conversly, I've found it easier to relate to scenes with dudes whose dicks are the same size and girth as mine as it allows me to appreciate the scene more.
And she's married with kids, just goes to show porn is not a disqualifier from matrimony.
