Fair/Foul: ESPN Katie Nolan Won’t Be Suspended For Trump Comments (Jemele says Hmmm) Update: she gone

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Ok, lets just focus on the discipline aspect.

ESPN never stated that they changed their policy AFAIK even though they had that meeting with their employees.

So the facts are, unless you can show me that ESPN changed their discipline policy, first offence gets you a warning.

That was true for Jemele and now its true for this chick. (Who i never heard of before).

So what vastly different disciplinary treatment are you specificaly talking about?

You brought up the fact that they can fire you as a first time offender as well. Are you saying you wanted Jemele and now this chick to be fired on the spot too?

Great breakdown

Another false flag exposed. ..

Sure hope this situation isn't trending because it looks like whining for no reason
 

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The case with Jemele is YES she did get a warning. No one is disputing that. However before Jemele's incidents there was no policy in place. The white chick on the other hand had a policy and place and she still went against it. All people are saying is why is she getting a warning despite a policy being in place? No one answered that question.

1st, yes there was already a policy in place when Jemele got a warning.

2nd, unless the rules changed your first offence gets you a warning.

Im really not seeing how she was treated differently then Jemele. They got the exact same discipline.
 
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Ok, lets just focus on the discipline aspect.

ESPN never stated that they changed their policy AFAIK even though they had that meeting with their employees.

So the facts are, unless you can show me that ESPN changed their discipline policy, first offence gets you a warning.

That was true for Jemele and now its true for this chick. (Who i never heard of before).

So what vastly different disciplinary treatment are you specificaly talking about?

You brought up the fact that they can fire you as a first time offender as well. Are you saying you wanted Jemele and now this chick to be fired on the spot too?

You sure are good at framing things. I never said I wanted either to get disciplined and fired. I believe in free speech and the 1st amendment especially for journalist. No journalist should have to worry about their safety but in this anger charged society we live in that is not a reality. Secondly I said other organizations and professions could fire people for breaking policy the first time. Maybe ESPN does not do that and it seems that is very apparent the white chick went against her superiors despite ESPN's stance.
 

THE DRIZZY

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1st, yes there was already a policy in place when Jemele got a warning.

2nd, unless the rules changed your first offence gets you a warning.

Im really not seeing how she treated differently then Jemele. They got the exact same discipline.

I'll give you they got the same exact discipline but they did not get the same exact public backlash. We know when black people in the media challenge the status quo they are attacked and threatened. When white people of the same position challenge the status quo they don't get the same vitriol. So what I am getting out of this is that at ESPN you can break policy one time(freebie) but you better not do it again.
 

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You sure are good at framing things. I never said I wanted either to get disciplined and fired. I believe in free speech and the 1st amendment especially for journalist. No journalist should have to worry about their safety but in this anger charged society we live in that is not a reality. Secondly I said other organizations and professions could fire people for breaking policy the first time. Maybe ESPN does not do that and it seems that is very apparent the white chick went against her superiors despite ESPN's stance.

We believe in the same things.

Thats why Im happy she only got a warning.

Like I was happy that Jemele only got a warning the first time.
 

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I'll give you they got the same exact discipline but they did not get the same exact public backlash. We know when black people in the media challenge the status quo they are attacked and threatened. When white people of the same position challenge the status quo they don't get the same vitriol. So what I am getting out of this is that at ESPN you can break policy one time(freebie) but you better not do it again.

Oh for sure, in regards to public blowback, Jemele and this chick flat out live in different worlds. No argument there.
 

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Didn't read the term, "zero tolerance', anywhere in the article tho...

Stop that.

It was well reported they basically put EVERYONE on notice

Why have a unprecedented mandatory meeting like that?

So you think if Michael Smith did the exact same thing he wouldnt get a suspension

And if he got suspended...

His defense would be well you didn't say we could NEVER say any thing bad about trump?

Or

You all meant right now? I thought we had a few extra weeks to play with?

Or

I thought ya'll were just talking about tweets?

Or

I thought it ya'll were just talking to Jemele?
 

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Stop that.

It was well reported they basically put EVERYONE on notice

Why have a unprecedented mandatory meeting like that?

So you think if Michael Smith did the exact same thing he wouldnt get a suspension

And if he got suspended...

His defense would be well you didn't say we could NEVER say any thing bad about trump?

Or

You all meant right now? I thought we had a few extra weeks to play with?

Or

I thought ya'll were just talking about tweets?

Or

I thought it ya'll were just talking to Jemele?

I still stand by what I said Bruh... and I'm not saying anything else. All of your what if scenarios are just that, what if scenarios with no real basis...

Someone mentioned Zero Tolerance, and as I stated, unless it is explicitly spoken to and made official, it cannot be assumed or enforced, and would result in a lawsuit probably. There has been no precedence set regarding zero tolerance, and even the aforementioned Jamelle Hill was given an intial warning prior to suspension, which essentially is a disciplinary precedence which has been set, and in this case, followed...

If they tried to fire or suspend this broad on zero tolerance, which has not been officially deemed in effect, she could actually use Jamelle Hills disciplinary handlings as a means to win a case against ESPN Bruh...
 

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WTF is ESPN doing?????


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Why is ESPN paying Katie Nolan seven figures?

Katie Nolan is paid more than a million dollars per year by ESPN, according to sources, but it is hard to figure out exactly why.

She has talent, but, like a top prospect, you wonder when it is going to translate into big hits.

In October, ESPN, under then-president John Skipper, felt the need to poach Nolan from Fox Sports, where she was not really on the air much.

The company paid her seven figures, believing Nolan, 31, has a large social media following, which her more than 400,000 Twitter followers suggest is true.

As of right now, she does “SportsCenter” Snapchats two or three times a week. The segments are approximately 3 to 5 minutes long. She also does a weekly podcast. Those are her current regular assignments.

Nolan also occasionally appears on Dan Le Batard’s show “Highly Questionable” and some other TV talk shows as a guest. She was part of ESPN’s “Cool Room” for one of its alternative broadcasts of the college football national championship.

In development, she has what will be a weekly show that is expected to appear on social media. Even when you add it all up, her per-hour rate is pretty livable.


ESPN pays plenty of big salaries, but as the network gets leaner and leaner in terms of workforce — it has laid off hundreds over the last few years — it seems there needs to be a payoff with the highest salaries.

While ESPN declined an interview request with Nolan, it did provide a statement.

“When Katie joined ESPN, we announced that she would bring her perspective, authenticity and sense of humor across multiple platforms in a variety of projects, and that is exactly what is happening,” said Ryan Spoon, ESPN senior vice president of social media, as part of the statement. “Yes, she is most prominent on digital. That’s not a flaw; it’s by design. Building invested fans today requires that you reach them in a variety of ways and not be limited by past conventions.”

ESPN argues it is grabbing a younger demo with its “SportsCenter” Snapchat. It says it reaches 2 million people daily. It could not break down whether Nolan’s spots do better than the lesser-known or -paid hosts’ ones.

From what we have seen, Nolan has some skills, flashing some humor as she tries to be edgy. But working at a Disney-owned company, like ESPN, in the social media age, there are rules at the edges. There are limitations for someone who is supposed to be very irreverent.


The biggest headline Nolan has made since arriving at ESPN is when she called President Trump a “f–king stupid person” on a Vice show. It came at a time when ESPN was trying to lose a perception from some of a liberal bias.


As it turns out, Nolan’s best skill may be “developing projects.” At FS1, she hosted a weekly show called “Garbage Time,” which didn’t get much of a rating but did win a Sports Emmy for “Outstanding Social TV Experience.” After “Garbage Time” ended, she never really did much at FS1, though there always seemed to be talk about a next project.

Now, at ESPN, she is developing a digital show. It sounds as if it will happen, though there is no timetable for exactly when.

Either way, in ESPN’s eyes, it is getting its money’s worth with Nolan.
 

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He Suspended Me From ESPN, but We’re Still Friends


The political doesn’t always have to be personal.

NOV 29, 2018

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About a year ago, I sent a tweet calling President Donald Trump a white supremacist. The president’s press secretary, Sarah Huckabee Sanders, promptly called for me to be fired from ESPN, where I was an anchor. John Skipper, then ESPN’s president, was furious. We had an emotional meeting. I cried. It wasn’t Skipper’s anger that got to me. It was reconciling the fact that even though I believed what I said was true and knew that I was on the right side of history, the collateral damage was sitting right there in front of me. I made the job of someone who had created a wealth of opportunities for me that much harder.



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A few weeks later, Skipper suspended me for two weeks, for another set of tweets. In that instance, I suggested that Dallas Cowboys fans upset at the owner, Jerry Jones—who said he would bench any player who took a knee during the national anthem—should boycott the team’s advertisers. It was too much, too soon.

The Trump drama and ensuing suspension were the first moments of tension in my 11-year working relationship with Skipper.

Read: Trump’s war of words with black athletes

Tension, not anger. Although I didn’t always agree with Skipper’s decisions when he was my boss, the suspension I could more or less understand. The thing that really bothered me was that he didn’t take the chance to condemn the White House even as he rebuked me. Corporate America has to do what corporate America has to do—but it’s not the government’s place to attack private citizens, and Skipper could have said so.




Now, maybe more than ever, the personal is political. And yet, not every political decision has to be taken personally.

A couple of weeks after the suspension, Skipper and I shared a meal at a small diner in Hartford, Connecticut. Before we even sat down for breakfast, we hugged. I wanted Skipper to know I didn’t have any hard feelings. He wanted me to know that despite the attacks from the White House, his belief in my ability remained unchanged. We laughed together.

Granted, to be totally honest, I wasn’t sure what, exactly, our relationship would look like going forward. I was even less sure when, two months after he suspended me, Skipper stunned the entire sports-media world by resigning from his position, citing substance addiction. And—again, being totally honest—I was pretty surprised when Skipper called me in October to ask if I’d moderate a Q&A with him at a technology conference in Lisbon, Portugal.


Read: Why ESPN is more political than before

Our reunion was pretty different from that last meal in Hartford, and not just because of the foreign location. ESPN felt like a long time ago. I’d started work here at The Atlantic, and Skipper had rebounded, too. He’d taken a job as executive chairman of DAZN Group (pronounced “da zone”), a sports-streaming service that recently signed mega-deals with the superstar boxer Canelo Alvarez and Major League Baseball.

I accepted Skipper’s invitation in part because I needed some clarity. So much had gone unsaid, and so much still needed to be said.

In Lisbon, Skipper described his departure from ESPN as “inelegant.” I can’t argue there. But sometimes even the most extreme circumstances can lead you exactly to the place where you need to be, often without you realizing you needed to be there in the first place.

Skipper spoke metaphorically, as he often does, to explain the sense of peaceful stillness he had in his new position.

“If every day of your life for 20 years, you woke up and the wind was blowing at 40 miles per hour, you would assume every day that the wind would blow at 40 miles an hour. And if suddenly the wind is blowing at five miles an hour, you go, Damn, there’s a lot of things I don’t have to worry about if the wind’s not blowing at 40 miles an hour, right? It’s easier to walk, you know? You get adjusted to what I would call ‘extreme situations.’ A job of that scale is like a 40-mile-an-hour wind every day. But you get up every day and walk in a 40-mile-an-hour wind, and you don’t think it’s weird. That’s probably why I had the haircut that I had before. You can’t have hair. You can’t fly a kite, because it’ll go nuts. Now I can fly a kite, and I can grow hair.”


Read: For Trump, the interpersonal is political

I asked Skipper if he had any regrets about how he handled my situation. I sensed his hesitation, and understood it. We’re both trying to move on.


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So. (nothing against OP) but Fuck Trump. His supporters, family, friends, associates and anything and ANYBODY for him. He talk about everybody else so what. And fuck yall honky motherfuckers and sambo Negros who support him. Didn't forget you either. Bitches
 

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get your own, period.

then you can say what you want.

we constantly want to hop on the enemies shit and talk crazy then play victim when we get cancelled.

cmon nah, its not rocket science
 

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ESPN’s plan to reignite Katie Nolan’s show
By Andrew Marchand

September 5, 2019 | 4:44pm | Updated


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Katie Nolan is receiving a reboot at ESPN.

In its continuing effort to find the right fit for Nolan, who was a multimillion dollar signing in 2017, her weekly show is being moved to a late-night slot on ESPN2, The Post has learned.

Nolan has been an enigma for ESPN executives since she was signed two years ago to a contract that pays her around $1.3 million per year, according to sources.

After not doing much for the first year of her deal, she has headed a program called “Always Late with Katie Nolan” on the network’s relatively new direct-to-consumer service, ESPN+. After 12 months, ESPN is trying a different tack for Nolan as her show didn’t find much viewership, according to sources, as ESPN doesn’t release numbers on individual programs.

Disney has said ESPN+ has more than 2.4 million subscribers.

The program has made a couple of viral videos and did receive a Sports Emmy nomination, but did not make much traction with subscribers.

In fairness to “Always Late,” the lack of impact on ESPN+ may be attributed to the fact that these direct-to-consumer video services are more of a platform for games than programs, especially ones that are not pre-established. In most cases, they are more additive than drivers for subscriptions.

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ESPN executives still believe Nolan’s edginess can work on the Disney-owned networks. Her program will be on Thursdays at 12:30 a.m. with the first show debuting on Sept. 26. ESPN2 is in nearly 84 million homes.

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As part of the reboot, Nolan will increase her presence on Facebook, according to sources. She also has a podcast called “Sports? With Katie Nolan.”

She used to host the two- to four-minute SportsCenter Snapchats on occasion. She is no longer doing that.

Before coming to ESPN, Nolan was at Fox Sports, which had trouble finding the exact fit for her as well, though she did a win a social media Sports Emmy with her program “Garbage Time.”
 

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Katie Nolan instantly regrets new ESPN contract after layoffs
By Samantha Previte
November 18, 2020 | 5:50pm | Updated



Katie Nolan instantly regrets new ESPN contract after layoffs



Katie Nolan admits she regrets her recent deal with ESPN in light of recent events.

The host of “Sports? with Katie Nolan” told fans she was blindsided by the network’s mass layoffs, which impacted her producer and co-host, Ashley Braband.

“We didn’t know this was happening,” Nolan said during Tuesday’s podcast. “Some of us didn’t know this was happening to the point where they recently signed a contract. And so we are now in a situation where this is the only thing I have to do, and now I have to do it alone, I think.”
Nolan agreed to her new ESPN contract before the layoffs.

“There was a lot to weigh with that,” Nolan said. “It’s also very difficult for me to have just told a company I’m going to be here for a little bit, and then have this happen in a situation where normally I’d be like, ‘Well, then I go.’ But now, I can’t do that.”
ESPN laid off 300 employees across its businesses, according to a memo obtained by The Post.




“Ashley’s reached a situation where she’s worked at this company for [13 years] now, and found out that she is done working here on her birthday, which is cool,” Nolan said sarcastically.
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Nolan, 33, joined ESPN in 2017 after a four-year stint with Fox Sports. She also hosts the series “Always Late with Katie Nolan,” and frequently appears on other programming, such as “Highly Questionable” and “The Dan Le Batard Show.”

The Boston native also addressed fans on Reddit last week about the situation.

“I don’t know how or when yet, but we’re gonna figure something out and keep you all in the loop, I promise. We might not have new episodes next week — we’re not sure — but we won’t just disappear on you,” she wrote.

“We love you & we mean it. Sorry about the bummer news on a friday. Talk to you soon.”
 
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