Film Debate: Martin Scorsese - Marvel Movies Are Just ‘Theme Parks’ more directors weigh in UPDATE: Oliver Stone joins in

[playahaitian]

Martin Scorsese Says Marvel Movies Are Just ‘Theme Parks’
By Zoe Haylock@zoe_alliyah

And he isn’t even wearing his reading glasses. Photo: Jim Spellman/WireImage

It’s the championship battle of the century. In one corner, fresh off The Irishman starring Robert De Niro, it’s legendary director Martin Scorsese. And in this corner, Marvel Cinematic Universe mastermind Kevin Feige. Let’s get ready to rumble! Scorsese has already kicked open the library doors, reading Marvel *ahem* “films” for filth in Empire magazine. “Honestly, the closest I can think of them, as well made as they are, with actors doing the best they can under the circumstances, is theme parks,” he said, clouds pouring darkness over Marvel Studios. He’s not too far off, what with Avengers Campus coming to Disney’s California Adventure Park in 2020. “It isn’t the cinema of human beings trying to convey emotional, psychological experiences to another human being,” the director of The Irishman added, claiming he’s tried to watch Marvel movies, “but that’s not cinema.” Before you get your Spider-Man undies in a twist, just remember: Martin Scorsese is 76, prefers Mob movies, and does not affect your life in any way. Go watch the small boy sling webs, if that’s what you like. Unless you’re Kevin Feige, in which case I would get your publicist on the phone right now … you have a lot to say about The Irishman, don’t you?

 

[playahaitian]

@largebillsonlyplease @ansatsusha_gouki @tallblacknyc @ViCiouS @slam @fonzerrillii @rage @godofwine @GAMBINO

ya'll go head...

I'll catch up.​

 

[GeeZnu]

ok, And? what's wrong with that?

 

[Ill Paragraph]

That’s EXACTLY what they are.

 

[EPDC]

He's not lying...

 

[THREAD_CRITIC]

They are.....

 

[darth frosty]

Key is...who doesn't LOVE theme parks?!?

 

[God Dammit]

This dude makes the exact same movie... every fucking time he directs.
If I see his name on a movie I immediately put it on the “do not watch” list.

-White protagonist: preferably Leonardo DiCaprio
-Said protagonists narrates movie
-Filmed in the northeast region of America
-Some type of mob relation
-The word “n***er” will be said no matter the extreme lack of black people in his movie
​

 

[kidmegaii]

Some of these movie buffs just don't like how these superhero movies are made. Lack artistry and use of formularic direction probably pisses them off.

 

[ansatsusha_gouki]

I dont understand,why folks have a huge problem with superhero movies...

 

[God-Of-War-420]

He’s not wrong. He also made more classics than all the marvel filmmakers combined so who’s gonna tell him shit lol

 

[KunningLinguist]

This dude makes the exact same movie... every fucking time he directs.
If I see his name on a movie I immediately put it on the “do not watch” list.

-White protagonist: preferably Leonardo DiCaprio
-Said protagonists narrates movie
-Filmed in the northeast region of America
-Some type of mob relation
-The word “n***er” will be said no matter the extreme lack of black people in his movie
​

1. You're wrong. His.movies aren't the same. He was making movies before leo was born.

2. Why does he have to put black people in his.movies if he doesn't want to?

The time is over for expecting white people to.include us.

We can make our own damn movies

Like you said he makes mob movies. How many black people you think the mob gonna have around?

 

[God-Of-War-420]

I dont understand,why folks have a huge problem with superhero movies...

inthink it’s more tha my they’re the main type of film out and that small artistic/indie movies have no chance to compete. Most are soulless sequels planned methodically by a group of old rich guys who don’t have an artistic bone In Their body. It’s just focus groups and bottom lines. You don't get movies like pulp fiction or clerks/chasing amy with movies the way they are today.

to add to that al that leaves room for us Oscar bait movies aka white bummers. Movies about sad white peoples having a hard time lol or anything where they can show a black male lead as gay.

 

[2 ONE 3]

Fuck him

Fuck these super hero movies too

Got grown ass men really believing this shit

 

[God Dammit]

1. You're wrong. His.movies aren't the same. He was making movies before leo was born.

2. Why does he have to put black people in his.movies if he doesn't want to?

The time is over for expecting white people to.include us.

We can make our own damn movies

Like you said he makes mob movies. How many black people you think the mob gonna have around?​

Your sensitivity made you completely miss the
point that you chose to address the most.
I said the word n***er gets used even with no black people in the movie.
My point is not for him to include black actors. My point is why say the word at all?! He always finds a way to include two white guys having a conversation with each other to somehow say the word.
And your first point is a big “duh” too.
He’s probably used Leonardo more than any actor even though he’s been making movies before his birth though.
You’re going to ignore the other point I made about protagonists narrating?
But hey, what do I know, I’ve stopped watching his lame movies yeeeeaaaars ago!
Face it, his movies are corny.​

 

[Lou_Kayge]

The funny thing is that there have been Oscar winners and nominees in every MCU movie.

 

[Tha Great Muta]

I dont understand,why folks have a huge problem with superhero movies...

They (Marvel) making too much money.....Endgame had alot of drama on top of being a blockbuster....and it's not for everybody if your not fully invested

 

[neptunes007]

This dude makes the exact same movie... every fucking time he directs.
If I see his name on a movie I immediately put it on the “do not watch” list.

-White protagonist: preferably Leonardo DiCaprio
-Said protagonists narrates movie
-Filmed in the northeast region of America
-Some type of mob relation
-The word “n***er” will be said no matter the extreme lack of black people in his movie
​

Really? So what about Hugo, Brining Out the Dead, Raging Bull, The Color of Money, Taxi Driver, or The Silence?

 

[Tha Great Muta]

He’s not wrong. He also made more classics than all the marvel filmmakers combined so who’s gonna tell him shit lol

I love Casino but it's no Endgame or Infinity War.

 

[November 17]

I dont understand,why folks have a huge problem with superhero movies...

I'm not sure, could it be that superhero movies out gross most of the movies that the people that are complaining the most are involved in?
Think, "Disco sucks," not discussing the racial components for now, but Disco outsold rock at the time.

 

[God-Of-War-420]

I love Casino but it's no Endgame or Infinity War.

lmao

 

[God Dammit]

Really? So what about Hugo, Brining Out the Dead, Raging Bull, The Color of Money, Taxi Driver, or The Silence?

What about them?!
Dropping names like they’re not lame movies too.​

 

[Tha Great Muta]

What about them?!
Dropping names like they’re not lame movies too.​

Yea Hugo was pretty garbage.

 

[God-Of-War-420]

I love Casino but it's no Endgame or Infinity War.

shit endgame and infinity war aren’t on the level of the first avengers film, iron man 1, captain America one and winter soldier, guardians of the galaxy, black panther, and a couple other mcu movies that don’t come to mind. Terrible examples to use against an all time classic and let’s not even mention goodfellas or wolf of Wall Street. I’m a huge fan of comics and comic movies they’ve just over saturated the market and are cranking out bullshit formulas imo I want good fresh comic movies like Deadpool one, I want blade, I want saga or something unconventional. All people are watching and talking about are comic movies. Grown adults debating who’s stronger in a fight hulk or thanks lmao if that’s all you go to the movies for then no diss, no hate. I’m a film guy so I want more from my movies, even though I do also enjoy comic films.

 

[blackman80]

OK!!..Well, Those theme parks movies get alot of love!!..We support them!!..Esp Marvel Studios!!!..

 

[LennyNero1972]

Of course he would say that, yeah its cinematic junk food, that's what its supposed to be.

 

[The Plutonian]

Which rake in billions in cash. You mad bro?

 

[Bawse Nigguh]

Key is...who doesn't LOVE them parks?!?

Old people who can’t get on the rides...Boom case closed

 

[neptunes007]

What about them?!
Dropping names like they’re not lame movies too.​

You just said all his movies are the same. The ones I presented aren’t. Now whether you like them is your opinion, but to try to insist Scorsese makes only one dimensional movies when there are clear examples he doesn’t shows you have no idea what you are talking about. Now I do agree that certain elements are repetitive, YES. But name me one director that doesn’t do that.... You can’t bc every director has elements they repeat in their films. It’s there so called signature from Jean Renoir to Alfred Hitchcock to Jordan Peele.

Now if you don’t like Scorsese’s signature, which it seems is the focus of your argument, then that is pure silliness. Why? Well bc that would be like me trashing Spike Lee for every movie he shoots the upward profile dolly shot in, or how racism/classism is always a subject matter in his movies, etc. The upward profile dolly shot and portraying racism in the story is Spike’s signature, just like how David Fincher always uses green/yellow color palettes, symmetrical lines, and low key lighting in majority of his films, which aside from Aliens 3 are all film noire based.

 

[neptunes007]

I love Casino but it's no Endgame or Infinity War.

This comment alone just let me know everything I need to know about anyone who had a problem with the statement Scorsese made.

 

[THREAD_CRITIC]

lmao

 

[gutsdabeast]

My question is, Why all the superhero hate?

You don't hear Kevin Feige addressing The Irishman.

Is the hate because comic book movies make money?

And all his movies combined haven't grossed what BVS grossed probably?

Every time some "artistic" director speaks about comic book movies they hate.

Big ups the superhero movie for being successful & keep making your movies. How hard is that?

 

[SpiritualPorn]

Old people who can’t get on the rides...Boom case closed

I think you hit it on the head.

I wouldn't expect him to say anything else.
I just watched "Goodfellas" "What's Funny" scene earlier today. One of the best scenes in Cinema.

However, Marvel movies, to me, are better than the comics. Been reading them for a very long time. I wasn't in to Iron Man until the movie. Same with Capitan America. I didn't know Guardians of the Galaxy existed in that form. I love them.

The first Batman with Bale and Liam playing the "villain" was very well done also.

I'm glad he spoke his mind. No backlash needed

 

[SpiritualPorn]

My question is, Why all the superhero hate?

You don't hear Kevin Feige addressing The Irishman.

Is the hate because comic book movies make money?

And all his movies combined haven't grossed what BVS grossed probably?

Every time some "artistic" director speaks about comic book movies they hate.

Big ups the superhero movie for being successful & keep making your movies. How hard is that?

I don't get it either

Marvel doesn't even mention DC movies. They keep that energy to make their shit better.

 

[shaddyvillethug]

LMAOOOOO SOMEBODY SAID CASINO ISNT AVENGERS???


Lmaoooooooooiooii