Has Steph Curry supplanted LeBron as the 'Best Player in the World?' (CP Alert)

Career tops Lebron’s

  • Yes

    Votes: 5 15.6%
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    Votes: 27 84.4%

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This article is not about LeBron, but after reading it, it begs the question of who holds that title now. What Curry is doing has truly NEVER been seen before... Amazing Stat I heard, if he keeps up at this pace, he will have made more 3s this season and last combined, than Larry Bird made his entire career!! That shit is astounding!!

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http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/stephen-curry-is-the-revolution/ Before this year’s NBA season star...2015/11/goldsberry-warriors-3.png?w=610&h=469


But perhaps my favorite stat in all of this: Curry’s assists per 100 possessions has plummeted (11.6 last year, 8.5 so far this year, his lowest since 7.8 his rookie year). It’s probably fair to infer that Curry is taking more shots that he used to set up for teammates.

As well he should! Curry should only be setting up others’ shots if he is unable to take or get a better shot himself, which is not that often.

Curry’s bad shots are better than others’ good shots

I like to joke that Curry should just take “all the shots” — which is an exaggeration (I think). But there’s strong evidence that the Warriors could be asking Curry to take even more of them.

Let’s get very basic for a second: Some shots are better than others. Sometimes a defense breaks down and leaves a player an open look, and sometimes the clock runs down and a player has to heave up a prayer despite being tightly defended. A good offensive scheme is one that generates a lot of good shots. But of course this is relative to who takes them: An open three is useless if it’s taken by a poor shooter like Shaq, while a pretty well-guarded three can be valuable if it’s taken by a good shooter like Curry.

If the Warriors were to assign Curry even more shots, they would have to come from somewhere. If Curry can steal shots that are as good as or better than those his teammates would have taken, that’s pure gravy. But if we assume that the Warriors are already distributing their shots wisely, giving Curry more shots likely comes with a trade-off: To give Curry more shots would mean taking “better” shots away from his teammates. Moreover, Curry’s new shots are likely to be worse, on average, than the ones he is taking already (if they were better, he would probably already be taking them).

So if our hypothesis — that Curry should be taking more shots — is true, it would suggest that sometimes the Warriors should pass up a good shot for Curry to take a bad shot. So how good is Curry at bad shots?

Very, very good.

One way to measure his skill at bad shots is to look at how he shoots when he’s well-defended. In the shot data, the simplest proxy for this is the distance of the nearest defender. For example, NBA players on the whole made 35 percent of all 3-point attempts last season, but they made 44 percent with the closest defender at least 12 feet away.

Here’s Curry’s 3-point shooting over the past two seasons, broken down by distance to closest defender:

https://espnfivethirtyeight.files.wordpress.com/2015/12/morris-stephcurry-41.png?w=610&h=541


Leave aside the sharp drop on the right of the chart for a moment: Curry has hit 45 percent with a defender between 2 and 4 feet away, 44 percent with a defender between 4 and 6 feet away, and 47 percent with the closest defender more than 6 feet away. Yes, that’s right, Curry shoots threes about as well with a defender 2 to 4 feet away (classified as “tight” by NBA.com) as an average NBA shooter does with the nearest defender 12 feet away.

Sure, Curry has shot poorly when “smothered” with defenders less than 2 feet from him. This is perhaps unsurprising considering that Curry is only 6-foot-3, and this includes blocks by definition. But note that these types of shots are pretty rare: They accounted for only 25 shots in the data, about 3 percent of his 3-point attempts. In any case, Curry seems to be all right atgetting himself good looks:

http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=espn:14239233
So aside from the rare smothering, Curry seems fairly immune to defense.6He hits about 42 percent of the hardest quartile(ish) of his shots (specifically, the 28 percent with the closest defender less than 4 feet away),7or about 126 points per 100 attempts. In other words, if Golden State could replace its entire offense with just the bottom quartile of Stephen Curry’s 3-point attempts — without him ever being fouled and with them never collecting an offensive rebound — they would have the best offense in NBA history by a wide margin.

But it gets crazier.

Another proxy for a shot being pressured is how much time is left on the shot clock. As the clock winds down, the expected value of a possession drops as well, since players may be compromising shot quality to get a shot off. With Curry, not so much:

https://espnfivethirtyeight.files.wordpress.com/2015/12/morris-stephcurry-53.png?w=610&h=541


Curry takes a huge portion of his shots early in the shot clock (more than 50 percent) and is deadly on these. His worst time frame is with around 12 to 16 seconds left — where he has still made 42 percent. Then, he somehow shoots better and better as the clock runs down! In addition to being another example of how the traditional ideas of “good” and “bad” shots don’t really apply to Curry, this also has the very practical implication that Curry’s teammates should be willing to pass up reasonably good shots even if it means Curry will have less time to set up his own.

Curry vs. the Warriors

Of course, the Warriors aren’t an average team. So perhaps it’s impractical to think that their great shooters should be passing up good looks. For this, let’s first look at how well and how often the entire Warriors squad shoots. I’ve plotted each Warrior’s true shooting percentage8 against his field-goal attempts per 36 minutes this season.

We normally expect a flat to negative relationship between these two variables: Players with a small burden are more selective and tend to be “sharpshooters” taking wide-open threes and such, while high-volume shooters have to do the dirty work of taking shots that aren’t open and aren’t easy but are better than nothing. Incidentally, this is one reason why some great players with heavy shooting burdens may appear less valuable than they are: If they’re forced to take all the bad shots, they could be doing better on those than average but still have low efficiency.

With Curry, we have no such problem:

https://espnfivethirtyeight.files.wordpress.com/2015/12/morris-stephcurry-6.png?w=610&h=583


Curry demolishes the trend by taking an absurd number of shots efficiently. Here’s Curry’s true shooting percentage over the past four years compared with that of the other Warriors:

https://espnfivethirtyeight.files.wordpress.com/2015/12/morris-stephcurry-7.png?w=610&h=527


This already has a big impact on the Warriors’ bottom line. But the huge gap between him and the rest of the club — his “perfectly balanced” supporting cast — again makes it likely that a subpar shot for him may be well above average for his team.

The Curry stratagem

One way to get Curry more shots is to have players pass up shots so that Curry can take them. But another angle is for the offense to set up and have Curry take certain shots as quickly as possible. A shot like the pull-up 3-point jumper, say.

The pull-up three is not normally a great shot in the NBA. The league on the whole converts about 28 percent on average (corresponding to 84 points per 100 possessions) — well below the 35 percent that players convert on all 3-pointers. But since the start of last season, Curry has converted 42 percent of his. Here’s a plot of every player with at least 100 pull-up 3-point attempts in the same period:

https://espnfivethirtyeight.files.wordpress.com/2015/12/morris-stephcurry-81.png?w=610&h=637


So say Curry was instructed to take significantly more pull-up 3-point attempts than the large number he already takes. Even assuming that these shots were a little bit worse than the ones the Warriors would be able to get otherwise (highly questionable), getting efficient shots off early in a possession has other ancillary benefits. For one, it allows the Warriors to pack more possessions into a game, which is good because they are gaining ground on their opponents for every possession exchanged (unless they play a better opponent, which these days they don’t). But second, being able to play a very fast-paced offense when necessary (such as Curry taking quick threes early in the clock) allows them to extend the game as much as possible when they’re behind, just as being able to play a slow-paced offense (such as holding the ball unless you have a clear shot and then letting Curry shoot under pressure) is valuable for shortening the game when they’re ahead.

In other words, building your offensive strategy around “Curry as options 1, 2, and 3” has win-maximizing benefits beyond Curry’s shooting efficiency.

No, seriously, Curry is getting better

Every article about every great young athlete ever seems to end with “And he’s just getting better and better” — even though this often isn’t true. So let me end this one with, “No, seriously, he really is getting better and better.”

And, other than the fact that Curry is so good right now that he can’t possibly get better, there’s no evidence of him slowing down. To illustrate, here’s every NBA season during Curry’s seven-year career:

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Curry has taken on additional shot-making responsibilities throughout his career, yet his true shooting percentage has been getting better and BETTER.

As I mentioned earlier, for most players, this is a trade-off: The larger the burden placed on them, the less efficient they are. I’ve added a trend line through all of the players other than Curry9 to show how it’s normally flat. This is because better players tend to get more shots, which counteracts the fact that a given player taking more shots tends to be less efficient. I’ve also colored in LeBron James and Durant, so you can see that the standard relationship basically holds even for MVPs. But Curry has set career highs in both attempts and efficiency — in the same year — four times, including each of the past three seasons. That is, Curry comes only in shades of good, better and best (in that order). Curry is truly the Dennis Rodman of shooting!

Indeed, when considering Curry’s potential, I think Rodman is perhaps an even more important precedent than Chamberlain or Michael Jordan. Rodman came into the league as a reasonably well-rounded player but had an incredible talent for rebounding. As years went by, his teams leaned on this skill more and more. He took on fewer and fewer offensive responsibilities, and he started gathering larger and larger shares of his team’s rebounds. In the 1993-94 season, he gathered nearly 29.7 percent of all available rebounds — at the time, the highest by any other player was Moses Malone, with 23.4 percent in 1976-77. Despite being one of the most one-dimensional players ever, this made Rodman one of the most valuable players in NBA history.10

While exceeding 50 points per game sounds crazy — it would require Curry to take on the order of half of his team’s shots — as evidenced by Rodman, fully exploiting a game-breaking skill can lead to unthinkable results.

Do I really think that the Warriors will adopt an all-Curry-all-the-time strategy and knock Wilt out of the record books?

I don’t know. But Curry himself is a microcosm of the revolution that we’ve already seen. Just as the math suggests that good midrange jump shots should often be exchanged for worse 3-pointers if possible, so the math suggests that good non-Curry shots should be exchanged for worse Curry shots. I’m confident in saying that we aren’t there yet. And if that revolution happens as well, look out.

CORRECTION (Dec. 3, 11:30 a.m.): An earlier version of a chart in this story incorrectly gave the source of the data on shooting percentage by time remaining on the shot clock; it was Nylon Calculus, not Basketball-Reference.com.

CORRECTION (Dec. 3, 12:02 p.m.): An earlier version of this article misstated the rate of Curry’s 3-point attempts this year and last year. They were per 100 possessions, not per possession.
 
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Lebron been great this year so far...well last game out he had many turnovers...

but Triple C been so outta this world:
- he got us talking most improved and MVP
- he got us looking at the 3pt mark for the season
- He's captain of the 20 win undefeated team
- he got fuckers talking about him averaging 50 points per game(which is outrageous)
- dude works so fucking hard that this shit is easy to him, and we know it, he know it


So I don't know if he's the best or Lebron the best...all I know it's a great time to be a basketball fan!!!
 

TooTrilla

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So the niggas shot is wet. So fucking what. Im tired of hearing about this fool. NBA sucks ass now days anyways. Fuck him LeBron and Kobe.
 

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Through the first 20 games, The Beige Rage is the best player in the game. If he sustains this shit for the entire season...

He mad about Iggy getting the MVP and Dellavedova :D
 

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An offensive game does not (and should not) measure a players greatness. When I look at a player, I look at what they do on both sides of the ball. So is Curry a better offensive player than Bron? Then, yes.

Curry plays great 'team' defense and is very intelligent in being is good positions. Very sneaky. Curry is a special player. Let him be special in his own right.
 

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[Kobe/Jordan dickrider logic]"He cant be better than Bron til he gets 3 rings and 3 Finals MVPs. He only got 1 ring and no Finals MVPs. Yall tryna crown him too early!"[/Kobe/Jordan dickrider logic]
 

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King, you are alright with me Bro, seriously. Very knowledgeable about a lot of things, add a lot to threads at times, but for once Dude seriously, try to have an intelligent discussion without the BS... Dudes in here wrapping, and here you come with the first dick mention bait post... Shit gets old sometimes Dude, it really does... Not even gonna go back and forth with you either Bruh, just not beat for that shit in EVER sports thread...
 

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An offensive game does not (and should not) measure a players greatness. When I look at a player, I look at what they do on both sides of the ball. So is Curry a better offensive player than Bron? Then, yes.

Curry plays great 'team' defense and is very intelligent in being is good positions. Very sneaky. Curry is a special player. Let him be special in his own right.

Great points Fam, unfortunately once someone is crowned something there will always be comparisons. In reality there aren't too many great 'on ball' defenders in the league at this point, so THAT aspect of the comparison is overrated. With the changes in league rules, it takes away from the ability to Lock Up someone defensively at this point. Steph is 2nd in the league in steals at this point so...
 

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An offensive game does not (and should not) measure a players greatness. When I look at a player, I look at what they do on both sides of the ball. So is Curry a better offensive player than Bron? Then, yes.

Curry plays great 'team' defense and is very intelligent in being is good positions. Very sneaky. Curry is a special player. Let him be special in his own right.

So, what exactly are you trying to say?
If they gave you a franchise and told you could pick one player to start your team.... you going for the best defensive player or curry?
 

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I'm from Cleveland and I never considered LeBron the greatest in the world. He isn't even close to Jordan. He is a ball hawk who takes A shitload of horrible shots. I get frustrated every time he holds the ball until 5 seconds left to go on the shot clock and then he's up a fade away long shot that clangs against the rim.

Yes, he has great court vision, and yes he has great chase down blocks but his free throw shooting is very suspect to the point where I bet dollars against him making both free throws. And even though he wants to be really bad, no one can convince him that he is not a three point shooter and every time he makes one I say damn cuz I know he's going to heave up another 30 more. For as big and strong as he is, LeBron is just that much tougher than baby shit, and he cries twice as much.

I don't know about Steph Curry's defense, but his offense is out of sight. The way he can shoot 3 pointers from far beyond the line and makes him nearly unguardable. And he dares you to follow him because he shoots 90% free throws.

Steph Curry is the number one player in the world and it isn't even close. I still have to watch him play defense to see if he knows how
 

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Great points Fam, unfortunately once someone is crowned something there will always be comparisons. In reality there aren't too many great 'on ball' defenders in the league at this point, so THAT aspect of the comparison is overrated. With the changes in league rules, it takes away from the ability to Lock Up someone defensively at this point. Steph is 2nd in the league in steals at this point so...

It's not overrated. There are players in the league that player great on-ball defense. And remember what I said, he plays great 'team' defense. Please do not overlook that part of my comment. You'll never have to see Curry guard great players because of the type of versatility that is on his team hides him from doing such things. He has been hidden on defense very often. He plays the gaps well and doubles well. He does all the intangibles to make his team defense work well. He is at best the 4th all around defensive player on his team behind Green, Barns, and Andre. Steals can be fools gold when looking at stats.

So, what exactly are you trying to say?
If they gave you a franchise and told you could pick one player to start your team.... you going for the best defensive player or curry?

No, I said I look at everything thing. That's what makes GS so special. He is an elite offensive player that is backed by a tremendous and versatile defensive team.

I would build a team similar if I had an elite point guard that score on that type of level.
 
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[Kobe/Jordan dickrider logic]"He cant be better than Bron til he gets 3 rings and 3 Finals MVPs. He only got 1 ring and no Finals MVPs. Yall tryna crown him too early!"[/Kobe/Jordan dickrider logic]
lmao a thread not about jordan and kobe and yet ur the first and only person to mention them..ur mancrush is so strong that u come off as a low self esteem bitch scared of the other female comp that u try to downplay her shoes to make urself feel good about urself..anything that takes away from ur mancrush shine u quickly attack it..jordan, kobe, curry..u defend lebron better than his own bitch and moms that shit is beyong gay especially that ur not born with a pussy..u have no idea how gay ur reactions make u look..no real man in life would allow another nig to respond the way u do about another man..which means there's no straight dudes u hangout with or u were born in a female driven home
 

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Lebron is playing for June. It's fucking amazing how soon people forget Lebron beasting for 36,9, 13 in the finals this year. People were asking if he should be the MVP. First player to lead both teams in points, rebounds, and assists and literally willed a rag-tag bunch to 2 wins.

Shit can get ugly as fuck if that squad healthy in June and the media acting like LBJ ain't the man no more. People are forgetting just how much Lebron can dominate a game on both ends of the floor.

Curry is the best shooter in the league, but Lebron is the best player.
 

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lmao a thread not about jordan and kobe and yet ur the first and only person to mention them..ur mancrush is so strong that u come off as a low self esteem bitch scared of the other female comp that u try to downplay her shoes to make urself feel good about urself..anything that takes away from ur mancrush shine u quickly attack it..jordan, kobe, curry..u defend lebron better than his own bitch and moms that shit is beyong gay especially that ur not born with a pussy..u have no idea how gay ur reactions make u look..no real man in life would allow another nig to respond the way u do about another man..which means there's no straight dudes u hangout with or u were born in a female driven home

The goal was to bring you out of the shadows. And it worked! I just want to continue to drive home the point how basketball DUMB and insecure fans such as yourself were and are to use a team award to rank individuals. And the point that this is ONLY used for certain players, while others aren't judged by "rings". None of you mofos reference Sam Jones (10 rings) or Bill Russell (11 rings) ever, just MJ & Kobe dickriding. Its gay, its a weak argument, and you will forever get clowned for it. Get used to it!

As for Steph, he is the MVP this year and the best offensive player in the league, but the cat takes after his dad and doesn't play defense well. Its hard to consider someone who plays on 1 side of the court the best in the world.
 

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nig i don't and never juss use rings to say a player is better..jordan is better than lebron without the rings..he's a better scorer, he has the killer instinct to win, he has heart, and he's a straight mentalist when it comes to destroy whoever guards him..ur boy lebron ain't like that..the chips . the scoring titles, the mvps, the defensive player award is juss icing on the cake to show on paper why he better and why i would always pick him first
 

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None of you mofos reference Sam Jones (10 rings) or Bill Russell (11 rings) ever, just MJ & Kobe dickriding. Its gay, its a weak argument, and you will forever get clowned for it. Get used to it!
But you mentioned Kobe and Jordan. I've seen this type of behavior before. It's quite sad.
 

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When a Warriors' fan asked me this during the preseason, I said "no way". I always reserve that for the best two-way players in the league. However, he's such a skilled offensive player (the most-skilled by far right now), that it is a real argument. I'll just say that he's definitely (along with his team) having the best start. If he plays like this all year and delivers another title, then yes. The type of team he plays on hides his defensive liabilities. But he reminds me of a randy moss. Randy Moss was a subpar blocker and couldn't run the full route tree, but he did what he did so much better than anyone else(historically as well) that in is prime, he was clearly the league #1 WR. You don't play both sides of the ball in football, but my point is that Curry is such a gifted shooter/scorer, that him being an average defender is irrelevant (with the team he plays on). His shooting completely changes the way an offense is played. It's still early in the season though to say he's passed Lebron. Lebron is coasting right now. He doesn't give a shit about this regular season shit.
 

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Lebron is the top dog now, since he passed Wade's shadow. But it doesn't matter if it doesn't materialize into championships.
 

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But you mentioned Kobe and Jordan. I've seen this type of behavior before. It's quite sad.

I've seen you use the lame "ring" arguments too many times to count. A hit dog always hollars, and you and tallblack hollarin like a mofo. LOL.
 

KingTaharqa

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nig i don't and never juss use rings to say a player is better..jordan is better than lebron without the rings..he's a better scorer, he has the killer instinct to win, he has heart, and he's a straight mentalist when it comes to destroy whoever guards him..ur boy lebron ain't like that..the chips . the scoring titles, the mvps, the defensive player award is juss icing on the cake to show on paper why he better and why i would always pick him first

Most of this bullshit you typed is subjective garbage that cant be weighted "Killer instinct", "heart", sounds like a "COME FLY WITH ME" promo. And its all based around 1 facet of basketball, scoring. Just as people are mentioning with Steph that's ONE DIMENSION of the game. Nothing about rebounding, nothing about playmaking. No mention of guarding other positions like forwards and centers and shutting them down. A shooting guard that shoots the ball more than anyone in the league SHOULD score a lot. And yet there are several other players with more points. LOL
 

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I've seen you use the lame "ring" arguments too many times to count. A hit dog always hollars, and you and tallblack hollarin like a mofo. LOL.
i came in hear to read about curry as i scroll down i saw lebron mancrush respond..i decided to entertain myself by insulting once again and like a mancrush u responded..think for the past few nba threads u came in everytime to talk about ur crush or shit on other players that make ur crush not look so good even when the thread had nothing to do about lebron, or jordan/kobe.. u have cameout and straight lied about shit(something bitches and fags do when they are completely are wrong)..like u claiming i was rooting for the lakers in 09(even though i mostly lurked or promoted stripper parties on here at that time)..u have lied several times to save face of the most gayest shit ever having a crush on a nig..i mean really if u think if u ever met lebron and tell him u named him a special name u think he wouldn't have his security beat ur ass out of for fear of his life from a gay stan
 

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i came in hear to read about curry as i scroll down i saw lebron mancrush respond..i decided to entertain myself by insulting once again and like a mancrush u responded..think for the past few nba threads u came in everytime to talk about ur crush or shit on other players that make ur crush not look so good even when the thread had nothing to do about lebron, or jordan/kobe.. u have cameout and straight lied about shit(something bitches and fags do when they are completely are wrong)..like u claiming i was rooting for the lakers in 09(even though i mostly lurked or promoted stripper parties on here at that time)..u have lied several times to save face of the most gayest shit ever having a crush on a nig..i mean really if u think if u ever met lebron and tell him u named him a special name u think he wouldn't have his security beat ur ass out of for fear of his life from a gay stan

Blah, blah, blah. The same dude who blew off Curry in that other thread on some "I never seen him play, yall might be overrating him, he didn't face Daddy Jordan so how good is he". Bro I live in NC, I know an MJ rider when I see one fam. You're not special, youre not unique, I mentioned MJ and like a good dog you fetched the bone. In not one of your posts have you addressed the question, just defended Daddy Jordan and bragged about a SHOOTING GUARD who shot the ball more than anyone scoring a lot of points. Amazing!
 

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When a Warriors' fan asked me this during the preseason, I said "no way". I always reserve that for the best two-way players in the league. However, he's such a skilled offensive player (the most-skilled by far right now), that it is a real argument. I'll just say that he's definitely (along with his team) having the best start. If he plays like this all year and delivers another title, then yes. The type of team he plays on hides his defensive liabilities. But he reminds me of a randy moss. Randy Moss was a subpar blocker and couldn't run the full route tree, but he did what he did so much better than anyone else(historically as well) that in is prime, he was clearly the league #1 WR. You don't play both sides of the ball in football, but my point is that Curry is such a gifted shooter/scorer, that him being an average defender is irrelevant (with the team he plays on). His shooting completely changes the way an offense is played. It's still early in the season though to say he's passed Lebron. Lebron is coasting right now. He doesn't give a shit about this regular season shit.

Oh best believe he is thinking about the regular season this year. The east ain't no joke to start off. Teams are on his ass and they ain't playing.

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Blah, blah, blah. The same dude who blew off Curry in that other thread on some "I never seen him play, yall might be overrating him, he didn't face Daddy Jordan so how good is he". Bro I live in NC, I know an MJ rider when I see one fam. You're not special, youre not unique, I mentioned MJ and like a good dog you fetched the bone. In not one of your posts have you addressed the question, just defended Daddy Jordan and bragged about a SHOOTING GUARD who shot the ball more than anyone scoring a lot of points. Amazing!
i said i haven't seen curry play in 2 yrs still havent..i asked does he live up to the hype..i never once compared him to jordan or mention jordans name..understand this jordan was never the best shooter in the nba i would never ever say that and have never said that in my life..u see i can easily talk about somebody flaws or say they wasn't the best at something..in fact juss because i said jordan is better than lebron dosen't mean i think they're the greatest player ever..u see that's the funny thing u think lebron is the best player ever and anybody mention above him hurts ur heart.. the funny thing is i met lebron b4..if me and him will bump into each other again imma kill ur soul..imma try to get a piece of paper and write " get off my dick fuckboy" with ur name written on it and have lebron hold that piece of paper and take a pic..imma post that shit ur gonna cry in the car when u see that and than drive off a cliff lmao best ever ock ever..u better hope me and dat guy don't bump into each other cause i'm gonna make it happen
 

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Oh best believe he is thinking about the regular season this year. The east ain't no joke to start off. Teams are on his ass and they ain't playing.

I don't mean he completely doesn't care...but Lebron has been to like 5 straight NBA Finals, he's pacing himself. This regular season shit isn't as meaningful for him. He knows, especially with this team's injury history, that he needs to save himself for the playoffs.

Curry doesn't have to carry the same type of load as Lebron so although Curry's early season start is historic (shooting + team wins), I'm gonna wait until the playoffs come. Because Lebron can score points AND have an impact on the defense end.
 

Spectrum

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Curry's shooting has changed the game though... he's truly a special player... maybe has the chance to be a game-defining player. His shooting changes everything. No one has shot the ball like this before.. He's been the games best pure shooter for years, but he's gotten better.
 
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