Has Steph Curry supplanted LeBron as the 'Best Player in the World?' (CP Alert)

[Mt. Yukon]

An offensive game does not (and should not) measure a players greatness. When I look at a player, I look at what they do on both sides of the ball. So is Curry a better offensive player than Bron? Then, yes.

Curry plays great 'team' defense and is very intelligent in being is good positions. Very sneaky. Curry is a special player. Let him be special in his own right.

Honestly... This is nothing but ESPN driven BS. Bron, PG-13, Anthony Davis would all get picked before Steph. He'll I may even pick Westbrook over dude. Yes the man can shoot the lights out, and handle the rock... For what Golden state does he's the best player. But you're not about to sit here and tell me that because he shooting a bunch of 3s avging 35 a night he better than people that are doing EVERYTHING on the floor.

 

[BDR]

^^^^ even when Stephn came in the league and was playing with Monte Ellis on them weak ankles he was putting them numbers up..

This is nothing new with the kid. With the way GS is constructed from the starting 4 players being versatile to the 5 starters on the bench being versitale why would curry need to be dominating on defense? Kid avg 3 steals a game.. Y'all gonna act like he ain't picking ninjas pockets straight up one on one?

Give the kid his props... Just like Bron the kid is a willing passer so u can't even play straight up on him

 

[Mt. Yukon]

Hes a fantastic player, but why do I have to subscribe to this new push from the media that hes all of a sudden better without question than the players I named??? Its like I cant just say hes nice, I gotta say hes the best player of ALLTIME or Im hating the kid. Im not. But in a fantasy draft... Dude would be at best the 4th player Id consider if I had the number 1 pick.

 

[BDR]

Hes a fantastic player, but why do I have to subscribe to this new push from the media that hes all of a sudden better without question than the players I named??? Its like I cant just say hes nice, I gotta say hes the best player of ALLTIME or Im hating the kid. Im not. But in a fantasy draft... Dude would be at best the 4th player Id consider if I had the number 1 pick.

Bspn some clowns because it was the same media shitting in him when he declared for the draft how he ain't built for the NBA and will not be a good player..

Nevermind they ignored his dominance in the NCAA tourney into the elite 8 where he was a shot away from making it to the final 4.

But yeah I co sign your point.. I only give all time status when mofos are retired. Is he the best shooter for his era? Yes.

Is he on his way to the HOF at this pace? Absolutely

 

[4 Dimensional]

^^^^ even when Stephn came in the league and was playing with Monte Ellis on them weak ankles he was putting them numbers up..

This is nothing new with the kid. With the way GS is constructed from the starting 4 players being versatile to the 5 starters on the bench being versitale why would curry need to be dominating on defense? Kid avg 3 steals a game.. Y'all gonna act like he ain't picking ninjas pockets straight up one on one?

Give the kid his props... Just like Bron the kid is a willing passer so u can't even play straight up on him

Youngin' definitely gets his props and most of what you said is valid. He really doesn't have to worry about his defense. BUT, there are teams that really don't know how to play Golden State. Teams are trying to play like them and they are just better at the small ball game. Curry have to be attacked (which Toronto did a good job of), but most of the time you will see Curry guard spot up shooters. So while guarding spot up shooters, he can play the gaps and double team. I promise you, most of his steals are coming from the help side of defense, which is OK because they play great teams defense. This is what works for GS.

Hes a fantastic player, but why do I have to subscribe to this new push from the media that hes all of a sudden better without question than the players I named??? Its like I cant just say hes nice, I gotta say hes the best player of ALLTIME or Im hating the kid. Im not. But in a fantasy draft... Dude would be at best the 4th player Id consider if I had the number 1 pick.

Media tends to play the extreme card. Makes for good conversation, lol.

 

[shaddyvillethug]

Curry woulda been drafted 2 after Iverson in '96

The way u niggas say how cold he is

 

[BigATLslim]

When was the last time Curry disappeared in Overtime and his team lost?

Man, don't do that. Why do cats insist on following the herd and nitpicking at every single failure to win this man is associated with?

Bruh, you carry an entire team, year after year, season after season, playoff run after play off run, night after night, for 3 quarters CONSISTENTLY, then tell me how your legs feel on a jumper or a drive to the hole? How much would you have in the tank?

Ya'll acting like LeBron is not already over achieving for even how great he is!

Dude's dependability over an 82 game season is like the sun rising and setting.

It's all jokes, true, but hide your bias.

 

[IT IS WHAT IT IS]

Man, don't do that. Why do cats insist on following the herd and nitpicking at every single failure to win this man is associated with?

Bruh, you carry an entire team, year after year, season after season, playoff run after play off run, night after night, for 3 quarters CONSISTENTLY, then tell me how your legs feel on a jumper or a drive to the hole? How much would you have in the tank?

Ya'll acting like LeBron is not already over achieving for even how great he is!

Dude's dependability over an 82 game season is like the sun rising and setting.

It's all jokes, true, but hide your bias.

....Ayo Dude... slow down, calm down, and slow down... take a deep breath, and relax... and chill out

 

[sharkbait28]

All I know is that this dude is exciting as hell to watch. But honestly I'm the most casual basketball fan of all time so I'll leave it to you guys to judge.

 

[BDR]

This kid scores when and where he wants...

Shut them T.Dot mofos up real quick

 

[largebillsonlyplease]

Curry woulda been drafted 2 after Iverson in '96

The way u niggas say how cold he is

memphis could have him right now with that team which would pretty much make them a champion right now because they have everything else but what he can do and its why they lose

the timberwolves could've had him twice they picked jonny flynn and ricky rubio and they were just in the lottery again lol

 

[shaddyvillethug]

Hasheem Thabeet = Darko

 

[IT IS WHAT IT IS]

This kid scores when and where he wants...

Shut them T.Dot mofos up real quick

Man he's shutting the entire league down with the quick! Dudes in here trying to mask the fact that they don't wanna give this beige motherfucker his props because..... ah... he's too beige!

 

[BDR]

Man he's shutting the entire league down with the quick! Dudes in here trying to mask the fact that they don't wanna give this beige motherfucker his props because..... ah... he's too beige!

It's not that he's beige it's the fact he a lil skinny mofo with a jump shot that's water... How u want it? Spot up or off the dribble? Hand in the face or 2 mofos guarding off the screen?

 

[IT IS WHAT IT IS]

It's not that he's beige it's the fact he a lil skinny mofo with a jump shot that's water... How u want it? Spot up or off the dribble? Hand in the face or 2 mofos guarding off the screen?

Need to start call that Nigga Burger King! LOL!

 

[Spectrum]

Be objective.

I know you can win the MVP and still not be considered the best player in the league.

Independent of circumstances, has Curry become the "best player" in the league?

Assuming that the Warriors win a title this year w/ curry playing the way he has, and the warriors win more with him also continue to play how he is playing or possibly getting better... can he reach goat status?

And by goat "status" I mean in the class of Kareem, Magic, Jordan, Wilt... people that have legitimate arguments.

This dude is dominating games from long range. He's the best pure shooter of all time, has game-changing range, and is one of the best ball-handlers in the game.

He's doing shit that we've never seen and might not ever see again.

and defense can't keep him out of the argument in my opinion. Magic might have been more versatile because of his size, but he's certainly not worse on the defensive end in comparison to Magic and Magic is in the argument.

and people can't use the loaded team argument because on paper the Warriors aren't world beaters. Think about the back to back Miami heat team.. they had 3 hall of famers and two of them in their prime.

 

[2 ONE 3]

I just want a health Golden State and a healthy Cavs in the finals


So when can see who's the best team

 

[therealjondoe]

I believe he can become the goat.
He's hitting higher difficulty shots than Jordan and doing it regularly.

 

[tallblacknyc]

how bout he do this at least 8 straight more yrs than u can put him in the talks... nigs get injured everyday b and lots of really good players has had short careers or their levels of talent fell because of them grant hill, t-mac juss to name 2

 

[REDLINE]

I just want a health Golden State and a healthy Cavs in the finals


So when can see who's the best team

Agreed

 

[Spectrum]

how bout he do this at least 8 straight more yrs

The qualifier has already been added. Is it possible with this current production over several more years? If you extrapolate what he's doing now out over several years, would it be enough? I want to put the last two seasons into content.

If they win the title... that's back to back titles, back to back MVPs, and recording setting shooting..

 

[Spectrum]

I just want a health Golden State and a healthy Cavs in the finals


So when can see who's the best team

Cavs are peaking at the right time. If they play their best ball, they can beat GS.

 

[therealjondoe]

how bout he do this at least 8 straight more yrs than u can put him in the talks... nigs get injured everyday b and lots of really good players has had short careers or their levels of talent fell because of them grant hill, t-mac juss to name 2

Does a shorter career matter if what they did while they played was so impactful?
Jim Brown had a short career
Barry Sanders too.

 

[chrislee]

Steph is the face of the NBA now. Steph has surpassed LeBron in that aspect. As far as being GOAT status. Steph needs to continue to average at least 28 to 30 ppg while staying healthy and winning at least 3 more titles. Being the greatest PG of all time and surpassing Jordan as the greatest player to step on a NBA court are two different things and it's also based on your era you grew up in.

Steph is easily the best shooter of all time now. No one cas dispute that.

 

[Spectrum]

Does a shorter career matter if what did while they played was so impactful?
Jim Brown had a short career
Barry Sanders too.

Yeah. I think it's about how dominant you were during your Prime. So if he does this for just say 4 more years.. that could be six consecutive seasons of dominant basketball... would that be enough? and he would only be 32 after those 4 years.

 

[Maxxam]

A significant number of people will never let go of Jordan.

 

[grownazzblakman]

and defense can't keep him out of the argument in my opinion. Magic might have been more versatile because of his size, but he's certainly not worse on the defensive end in comparison to Magic and Magic is in the argument.

There's a big difference between Steph Curry & Magic Johnson, as far as 'defense' goes...

Because Magic could DEFEND all 5 positions.
He played BOTH sides of the ball, at every spot.

Not just offense alone.

2x NBA Playoffs steals leader (1980, 1982)
2x NBA Playoffs total steals leader (1980, 1983)

Curry cannot DEFEND power forwards & centers (down in the paint) like Magic could.

 

[tallblacknyc]

Does a shorter career matter if what they did while they played was so impactful?
Jim Brown had a short career
Barry Sanders too.

barry played 10 yrs and jim played like 8 or more... very diff compared to like 5.. both those dudes dominated throughout their career juss not 2... derrick rose had an mvp yr are u gonna say he's top 5 point guard ever??? prob not cause his talent went down bigtime after injuries..if curry got injured next yr and never averages 20 points a game ever again are u gonna call him the goat?? exactly..let dude continue his career first b4 u put him in that talk

 

[therealjondoe]

A significant number of people will never let go of Jordan.

Once the generation of people that actually saw Jordan play die off, then things will probably change

 

[Spectrum]

Steph is the face of the NBA now. Steph has surpassed LeBron in that aspect. As far as being GOAT status. Steph needs to continue to average at least 28 to 30 ppg while staying healthy and winning at least 3 more titles.

Steph is easily the best shooter of all time now. No one cas dispute that.

So your response is yes? Because I put the qualifier (if he does this for a few more years).

I think you have a very small number of players in NBA history that have broken paradigms.. he's clearly one of them. I said 3 years ago on bgol that
he was clearly the greatest shooter of all time.. and he's even better now and it's not even close and might never ever be another real challenger to this. @alexw was even saying he wouldn't be surprised if this some Secretariat shit where you found out later his had physical advantages that made him almost like a mutant (secretariat had an oversized heart)... curry might have much better eyesight than normal human...

 

[therealjondoe]

barry played 10 yrs and jim played like 8 or more... very diff compared to like 5.. both those dudes dominated throughout their career juss not 2... derrick rose had an mvp yr are u gonna say he's top 5 point guard ever??? prob not cause his talent went down bigtime after injuries

Rose shouldn't have even won that mvp.
What curry is doing is another stratosphere.
And it seems like he's only getting better...

 

[BronxBomber]

I wont front Im part of the I hate Jordan but he was the greatest to me. What Steph is doing now is UNREAL.... He does have to maintain this for 3-4 more years for me to say he is close to Jordan....

Its partially because I think the rules cater to his game play more. He would have gotten broken up in the 90s.

 

[Spectrum]

There's a big difference between Steph Curry & Magic Johnson, as far as 'defense' goes...

Because Magic could DEFEND all 5 positions.
He played BOTH sides of the ball, at every spot.

Not just offense alone.

2x NBA Playoffs steals leader (1980, 1982)
2x NBA Playoffs total steals leader (1980, 1983)

I already said he was versatile. He wasn't a good defender at all 5 positions though. Magic was slow laterally on defense. He would get cooked on the perimeter by fast players.

Steals leader doesnt mean much, boss. Curry was the steals leader this season

 

[tallblacknyc]

Rose shouldn't have even won that mvp.
What curry is doing is another stratosphere.
And it seems like he's only getting better...

some people would say steph didn't deserve his last yr... heck there's a thread where some people don't think he deserved it this yr.. but that's on a matter of opinion the reality rose did get 1 and people were extra hyped about him now look..dwight howard was loved yrs ago now look at him.. people need to stop getting hyped on a few yrs of explosion and wait it out to see what happens... cause if mysteriously this guy falls off and his team starts the fail all the fake warrior fans will disappear and all the curry cheerleaders will act like they wasn't riding his talking about goat and best pg ever cause he had 2 great yrs... dude doin his thing but the goat talk is way to premature

 

[ballscout1]

Steph is a great offensive player but for one thing he has only done it for 2 years on a great team.

He has to do it consistently for longer to be considered with the greats.

Now I am not a Lebron fan per se but you can't deny his impact.

LeBron took one of the worst teams ever to the finals ( 1st time in Cleveland)

Lebron could go to Philly or The Knicks and they would be at least a 2nd round team his first year

Curry isn't that dude...Curry needs a team Lebron is a team.

We already know that GS can win without Curry and would still be competing for a championship

Cleveland would possibly be a lottery pick without Lebron