I'm not Black i'm Dominican

[mcguyver]

she was born in the DR. moved to the US in '02. She referred herself as just a Dominican. I thought she was black until she told me she is from the DR.

I understand her train of thought. In DR she is not black nor african american, she is dominican. I had the same issue, I was really confused when applications asked if I was african american. In the end to those it matters to, if your skin is dark or bear any resemblance to africans, you are black.

 

[4 Dimensional]

I understand her train of thought. In DR she is not black nor african american, she is dominican. I had the same issue, I was really confused when applications asked if I was african american. In the end to those it matters to, if your skin is dark or bear any resemblance to africans, you are black.

exactly, that's what i explained to her. it wasn't her fault how CACs seen her.

 

[charlie dark]

Hey Mr. Uneducated jack-off. It has nothing to do with the people there being Indian. Trinidad has a large amount of Indians as well as Jamaica however, that is not why they call themselves West Indians.


The British West Indies are a diversified group of Caribbean islands, all are dependent areas of the United Kingdom. They are a subset of the Caribbean Islands, which are also called the West Indies.

The name goes back to Columbus, who tried to find India by sailing west. He found islands he thought belonged to India. As it was clear it was not India he found, they were renamed West Indies to distinguish them from the eastern India.


The West Indies is a mixture of Blacks, Chinks and some CACs. That's why you find all kind of different race of people down there.

I don't get into name calling.
If you've got something to say just say it.
I understand exactly why those group of islands are collectively known as the West Indies.
I am further fully aware of the various ethnicities that live on those islands.
However, each of those Islands as far as I am aware are nation states, so if your nationality is being queried then why not identify yourself by the actual Island you are from as oppossed to as 'West Indian'?
If your ethnicity is being queried then identify yourself by racial classifications.

 

[Upgrade Dave]

Cool I stated that for those with there 3rd eye open but I can understand how some might mis-interpreted.

Hell isn't that the moral of this thread anyway.

One big mess

Trust me I understood the simple clarity in your reply but just letting you know you preaching
to the choir, but at least others get to read what we both had to say maybe it will do some e-good.

Absolutely. This is a prime example of how White Supremacy has twisted the minds of Black people so bad that many of us (some of us born in the 50 states) don't want to be Black. And that's a fucking shame.

 

[Deuterion]

exactly, that's what i explained to her. it wasn't her fault how CACs seen her.

People see her as a Black Woman because that is what she is...it's not due to some White conspiracy as it seems you're alluding too.

 

[KTD]

I don't get into name calling.
If you've got something to say just say it.
I understand exactly why those group of islands are collectively known as the West Indies.
I am further fully aware of the various ethnicities that live on those islands.
However, each of those Islands as far as I am aware are nation states, so if your nationality is being queried then why not identify yourself by the actual Island you are from as oppossed to as 'West Indian'?
If your ethnicity is being queried then identify yourself by racial classifications.

Bruh seriously, is that a serious question? what do you think people in the U.S. and people in Canada call themselves on the world stage? North Americans.


What do you think Brazil, Columbia,etc... call themselves on the world stage? South Americans.


You understand now why they consider themselves West Indians?


When you see an African what do you say first? hey what's up are you African? Yes. Well what country? Ghana. See how easy that was?


Bruh just gon head man. I'm not one to brag but one of my majors was History.

 

[mcguyver]

I don't get into name calling.
If you've got something to say just say it.
I understand exactly why those group of islands are collectively known as the West Indies.
I am further fully aware of the various ethnicities that live on those islands.
However, each of those Islands as far as I am aware are nation states, so if your nationality is being queried then why not identify yourself by the actual Island you are from as oppossed to as 'West Indian'?
If your ethnicity is being queried then identify yourself by racial classifications.

There are no racial classifications in the west indies, (when I lived there). West Indian is a way better classification then BLACK. Tell anyone that you are West Indian they know exactly what you are talking about. Just like sometimes we say we are from the caribbean.

 

[charlie dark]

Bruh seriously, is that a serious question? what do you think people in the U.S. and people in Canada call themselves on the world stage? North Americans.


What do you think Brazil, Columbia,etc... call themselves on the world stage? South Americans.


You understand now why they consider themselves West Indians?


When you see an African what do you say first? hey what's up are you African? Yes. Well what country? Ghana. See how easy that was?


Bruh just gon head man. I'm not one to brag but one of my majors was History.

Nah man that's what you would say!!
In my experience if you ask someone an open question they will give you the exact answer.
eg Hey man where are you from?
I'm from Ghana,or I'm from Jamaica or I'm from Brazil, or I'm from Columbia.
I'm quite sure if you went to England and was asked by an Enlish man where are you from you would say the USA or America (meaning the USA) you would not say North America and wait to be asked which country in North America....but hey I guess you could be different!!!

 

[KTD]

Nah man that's what you would say!!
In my experience if you ask someone an open question they will give you the exact answer.
eg Hey man where are you from?
I'm from Ghana,or I'm from Jamaica or I'm from Brazil, or I'm from Columbia.
I'm quite sure if you went to England and was asked by an Enlish man where are you from you would say the USA or America (meaning the USA) you would not say North America and wait to be asked which country in North America....but hey I guess you could be different!!!

Ok, I see you like to argue for the sake of arguing. Anyway, I just gave you a lesson why they call themselves West Indians now you understand move forward with the knowledge. You're welcome.

 

[charlie dark]

Ok, I see you like to argue for the sake of arguing. Anyway, I just gave you a lesson why they call themselves West Indians now you understand move forward with the knowledge. You're welcome.

Yeah that's what you did?
Well done!!!



Self praise is no praise!!!

 

[mcguyver]

Nah man that's what you would say!!
In my experience if you ask someone an open question they will give you the exact answer.
eg Hey man where are you from?
I'm from Ghana,or I'm from Jamaica or I'm from Brazil, or I'm from Columbia.

gahana, brazil and columbia


So the only people froma a West Indian country you have encoutered is jamaica.

 

[KTD]

Yeah that's what you did?
Well done!!!



Self praise is no praise!!!

You came in here ignorant as hell now that you have some knowledge you are afraid to be humble and accept it.


Should have just left your ignorant ass alone and let you continue being ignorant.

 

[charlie dark]

There are no racial classifications in the west indies, (when I lived there). West Indian is a way better classification then BLACK. Tell anyone that you are West Indian they know exactly what you are talking about. Just like sometimes we say we are from the caribbean.

I understand what your saying but most people see themselves by their nation state.
Do you have a West Indies flag or a Jamaican or which ever island your from flag in nation state flag in your home?
The racial classification thing I'm guessing is a US thing introduced so as to enable the recording of statistical information that the government may find useful agaisnst different ethnic groups.
Do you think a white West Indian would suffer the same social dificulties in the US as a black West Indian?
If not then would it be more useful to describe yourself as Black or West Indian?
(that's assuming you trusted the governments reasons for wanting this data)

 

[KTD]

gahana, brazil and columbia


So the only people froma a West Indian country you have encoutered is jamaica.

It's a waste of time arguing with someone who is ignorant and enjoy showing their ignorance. I'm pretty sure he would say yeah Asians are racist but for his own ignorance and argument sake he would say oh no, Chinese and Koreans are racist to be specific. Before he wanted to know why people from the West Indies consider themself West Indians then I told him, he got embarrassed so now he is moving the argument in another direction. I should have just ignored his ignorant ass like you did.

 

[charlie dark]

You came in here ignorant as hell now that you have some knowledge you are afraid to be humble and accept it.


Should have just left your ignorant ass alone and let you continue being ignorant.

I'm so sorry.
I appologise for my ignorance.
If you could bear with me for a while longer, 'cos I'm not sure what you enlightened me on.
Could please just highlight that for me one more time?

 

[KTD]

I understand what your saying but most people see themselves by their nation state.
Do you have a West Indies flag or a Jamaican or which ever island your from flag in nation state flag in your home?
The racial classification thing I'm guessing is a US thing introduced so as to enable the recording of statistical information that the government may find useful agaisnst different ethnic groups.
Do you think a white West Indian would suffer the same social dificulties in the US as a black West Indian?
If not then would it be more useful to describe yourself as Black or West Indian?
(that's assuming you trusted the governments reasons for wanting this data)

Dude just shut up and leave please. You tried to play ole boy about you don't see no Indians in the West Indies so why are they consider West Indians then I told you why now your dumb ass is turning the argument into something else.

 

[KTD]

I'm so sorry.
I appologise for my ignorance.
If you could bear with me for a while longer, 'cos I'm not sure what you enlightened me on.
Could please just highlight that for me one more time?

How can one "bear" with you? is that some type of ahhhh? man I have no idea.

 

[DragonXJC]

I think their is mis-communication. When most Afro-Latinos get classified "black" in America, they're quick to correct you that they're not "black" not just black. I would correct you to. I am Dominican, I am NOT an African-American. I am a Black Dominican or African-Dominican, which has it's own culture. It's own black experience in the Americas. No one likes to be generalized and have their culture bunched up just because of skin color.

I have Nigerian, Kenyan friends that would snap out and say "I'm not Black, I'm Nigerian". And from what they've told me, the general term "black" is a black american to them.

There's white people in Canada, that will let you know they're "French Canadian". Though, I may call them the same damn cracker as any other. They do have their own culture different from the rest of their country and continent.

 

[mcguyver]

It's a waste of time arguing with someone who is ignorant and enjoy showing their ignorance. I'm pretty sure he would say yeah Asians are racist but for his own ignorance and argument sake he would say oh no, Chinese and Koreans are racist to be specific. Before he wanted to know why people from the West Indies consider themself West Indians then I told him, he got embarrassed so now he is moving the argument in another direction. I should have just ignored his ignorant ass like you did.

I was gonna write the samething, lol. i guess Asian, european and south American is wrong as fuck. I saw he is just trying to be an asshole from the type of questions he was asking thats why I said he would have to educate himself.

I only get this type of reponses from white folk.

 

[charlie dark]

How can one "bear" with you? is that some type of ahhhh? man I have no idea.

Maybe you should have studied Engish a bit:

To bear: to endure...
Look it up son.

On the real though bruv
I was quite aware that of the historical reasons why the West Indies are called that I was making a point, that you obviously missed, that it's not a nation so if asked your nationality why say that as opposed to the actual nation state that you may be from.
It wasn't a judgement call or a proclamation that one shouldn't do it it was just a proposition, cleverly put I thought but hey you missed it , no biggie!!!!

 

[charlie dark]

gahana, brazil and columbia


So the only people froma a West Indian country you have encoutered is jamaica.

It was en example my friend.
I saw no benefit from quoting every country in West Indies...

 

[Deacs]

So...
They are not black... yet... they have the complexion of Africans, and the genetic makeup of Africans..

Which either means, their ancestors were part of the slave trade and was moved there... or... their ancestors of their own free will moved there and co-mingled. Either way, they are still part of the base and can't be done away with.

One could say that due to the environment, their melanin would be naturally darker as being closer to the equator and the whole evolution argument, but even by saying this, this would still not include the features classically to those of negroid stock, which the boombastard in the video does have. People claim their culture [like it is an improvement] over their race and defend it to the death not understanding their ignorance in doing so.

I am multi-cultured, panama, costa rican, trinidad, jamaica, and ireland [slave poppy got my mammy], but as easily as I look into the mirror, I have the blessed flesh which survived through my family and would recognized as we have labeled it, race first then culture.

Although I do hate all parts of self hatred. I have realized that as long as people view being black as being a negative instead of an honor, these cases would be the same...

but in the name of our blessed Queen who tried her best to stop the tamahu from raping our country of our people so this bullshit wouldn't happen, Queen Nzinga of Ndongo, I hope they all become sterilized and not continued the bastard bloodline and ignorance of their own condition.

An elephant raised by pigs is still an elephant

 

[KTD]

Maybe you should have studied Engish a bit:

To bear: to endure...
Look it up son.

On the real though bruv
I was quite aware that of the historical reasons why the West Indies are called that I was making a point, that you obviously missed, that it's not a nation so if asked your nationality why say that as opposed to the actual nation state that you may be from.
It wasn't a judgement call or a proclamation that one shouldn't do it it was just a proposition, cleverly put I thought but hey you missed it , no biggie!!!!

Aight whateva man.

 

[charlie dark]

Aight whateva man.

See we taught each other something there..
I taught you the meaning for 'to bear' and you taught me to check my spelling before commenting on someone's English....
That's something positive to take from this thread no?

 

[KTD]

See we taught each other something there..
I taught you the meaning for 'to bear' and you taught me to check my spelling before commenting on someone's English....
That's something positive to take from this thread no?

Still.

 

[rundatrack]

Silly cats.

You cant use a nationality as your race.

I am jamaican....

But there are jamaican

-blacks
-whites
-chinese

And such and such....


Jamaicas the nationality...black is the race.

When you hear someone say that rubbish just ignore...not worth the time and wasted effort

 

[KTD]

Silly cats.

You cant use a nationality as your race.

I am jamaican....

But there are jamaican

-blacks
-whites
-chinese

And such and such....


Jamaicas the nationality...black is the race.

When you hear someone say that rubbish just ignore...not worth the time and wasted effort

Chinese is also a nationality. You fucked up playa. You meant Asians?

 

[rundatrack]

Chinese is also a nationality. You fucked up playa. You meant Asians?

Correct Asian. Thanks for pointing that out

 

[charlie dark]

Correct Asian.

India is in Asia but Indians are a seperate race from the Chinese who are also Asian.

 

[rundatrack]

India is in Asia but Indians are a seperate race from the Chinese who are also Asian.

So what race are indians?


What we are saying is that someone should use the race. vs. I am Pakistani I am Indian....in regards to race


In regards to nationality they are correct.

So give us the race and you got your answer

 

[charlie dark]

So what race are indians?


What we are saying is that someone should use the race. vs. I am Pakistani I am Indian....in regards to race


In regards to nationality they are correct.

So give us the race and you got your answer

This is a very contentious subject.
Firstly because race is a social contruct and there is no universal agreement as to what characteristics are to be used to determine it.
Secondly the rest of the world population outside of Africa descends from a group of about 200 Africans that left the continent 70000 years ago.
But that taken as given I'd say Indians are Caucasoid.

The other races being:
Mongoloid
Caucasoid
Congoid
Capoid
Australoid

 

[Wonder 16]

http://www.globalpolitician.com/2946-hispanic-latin-america-south-america

In Western Europe the term Latin(o)(a) is commonly used to refer the cultures of Italy, Spain, Portugal, Romania, and France. Additionally Europeans are shocked at how the term is used in America and who the term has been used to label.

this is true but also false. latina is not used in europe, only latin is. and this is refered to as a "dead" language. But, latin countries are refered to the ones you mentioned.

what europenas find really ignorent, is when most americans classify people into the following four groups; white, black, spanish, asian. which alot of people on bgol do.

until you get this right, the lot of you can stfu about this black dominican person, who wants recognition for their country and not just "the black guy". even though dismissing your color is abit dumb. but its not who that person classifies themselves as Firstly. which most ppl on bgol do, as colour is everything to you.

back to my point, dont classify someone from puerto rico, dominican rep, or central and s. america as "spanish", just cos thats the language they speak. its an insult to the spanish people in europe. which i have heard friends from barcelona say this. how would ppl in usa or australia liked to be called "english" even if your white or black? hmm. well ur callin white and black people from cuba etc as "spanish".

at the end of the day, americans need to be tought this at an early age cos ur ignorence is seen all over the world.

 

[Wonder 16]

You Indian then?
Where abouts Dehli?

another thing ive noticed from bgol, india is not considered as asia almost here. its just "east" india.
ive seen categories of white, black, spanish, east indian, asian.
american ignorence at its finest.

there should be no such thing as middle east too. from south east turkey to Japan, its all Asia.

 

[LoneStar]

So your racist director makes the comment "oh great two Black guys" and you get made at the other guy cause he wants it known that he is not just Black but a Black Dominican(He might didn't explain it like that but still)?

Why is it that some Black people want other Black people from other nationalities to be just Black and not to acknowledge their Nationality.

He's RIGHT!

Hear me on this.

If he is not a direct decedent of American slaves or "Black" experience
in America through Oppression and Civil rights then he is not the type
of "Black" we celebrate on Black History Month or technically the type
of category we are asked to include as "African American" on
applications and medical/government documents.

With that said he is very delusional if he thinks claiming
his Dominican heritage and regarding his skin tone as some
sort of coincidence means he is not of African decent.

He is a lost African who is in the West and will spend the rest
of his life self hating.

Can't save him from that.

Spanish and Portuguese slave trade influenced the ignorant
mindset of South America and the Caribbean more than folks
will ever admit too.

Why care? Many Africans will get pissed if you call em Black.Or even call yourself African American.Honestly,their cultural struggle is totally different than ours.Most non Black Americans are disgusted with Black Americans.In the grand scheme of things,why give a fuck?Our efforts would be better spent on bettering us instead of trying to include people that want nothing to do with us.

I think their is mis-communication. When most Afro-Latinos get classified "black" in America, they're quick to correct you that they're not "black" not just black. I would correct you to. I am Dominican, I am NOT an African-American. I am a Black Dominican or African-Dominican, which has it's own culture. It's own black experience in the Americas. No one likes to be generalized and have their culture bunched up just because of skin color.

I have Nigerian, Kenyan friends that would snap out and say "I'm not Black, I'm Nigerian". And from what they've told me, the general term "black" is a black american to them.

There's white people in Canada, that will let you know they're "French Canadian". Though, I may call them the same damn cracker as any other. They do have their own culture different from the rest of their country and continent.

Good responses.

 

[crossovernegro]

I'm gonna buy a big desk and start dating exclusively ex-gymnasts starting today

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