Joe Biden is now POTUS

ugk

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What do you guys think is more likely? The polls are as wrong as they were in 2016, or they have over corrected and this thing is a bigger blow out than it seems? :idea:
 

man-machine

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They weren't that wrong in 16. Oft repeated falsehood.
That is correct. I don't think Clinton ever had a lead of more than 8 points in any poll. Always remember she won the popular vote handily and it was about 77,000 votes that actually tip the scale for her to lose the electoral college in one of those swing states. Clearly, it needs to go. Trump will lose the election that you can be sure of. It's not the election you should be concerned about. It's the period from Nov. 4-Dec 20. Tensions will be high and there will be a Shit show like no other in the History of this country. Assuming Trump doesn't drop dead from Corona which is still a possibility. He will make every effort and attempt to pull every string to get votes thrown out or cry foul. Trump is fighting for his life here so he will leave no stone unturned. So assuming Trump is Blown out at Polls come Nov. 3 expect one of the following:

1) Death. - Trump dies from a Stroke or Heart Attack in Late October or After the election. Conspiracy theorists will cum in their pants. Obviously a plot by Hillary Clinton and Obama.

2) Court - Trump wants to get the case to the Supreme Court but it would have to something along the lines of what happened in 2000. It's not going to be that close. So the Supreme Court will not hear it. Trump has telegraphed his punch here and they know what he's trying to do.

3) Resigns - Of course, he does and gets that Pardon from Pence. Still won't protect him from SDNY.

4) Defects - to Russia or some other country that doesn't have an extradition treaty with us. Don't be surprised if he dies there. It'll be Covid but once again who knows.

Brace yourself its gonna be a wild ride...
 

HeathCliff

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What do you guys think is more likely? The polls are as wrong as they were in 2016, or they have over corrected and this thing is a bigger blow out than it seems? :idea:
By the margins, the polls were actually right, but there were a ton of undecideds left out there that shifted to Trump at the last minute. This year, not so much. Rachel Bitecofer wrote an excellent article about it.

Though the public has a general sense of "the polls got it wrong in 2016,” few voters understand what specifically went wrong. Although it’s a complex topic with many moving parts and contributing elements, three major factors generally contribute to election night surprises.
The most common explanation is a sudden, last-minute shift in voter preferences, which, while rare, certainly can happen. More likely though, what looks like a last-minute preference change is usually the product of a decent number of undecided voters coming down the stretch who break decisively against the candidate who has been leading in the polls, causing that lead to reverse at the ballot box.
This is partly what happened in Michigan, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania in 2016. Although over-representation of college-educated voters in the Midwest state surveys impacted polling estimates in these states, atypically high third-party and write-in balloting, combined with abnormally high numbers of undecided voters who then broke disproportionately for Trump, played a big role in America’s election night surprise.

 

ugk

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They weren't that wrong in 16. Oft repeated falsehood.

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4 Dimensional

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I follow this dude right here. He's always updating the voting tolls and the ballot rejection stats especially in North Carolina.







I already submitted my ballot, but early voting in Nc starts next Thursday.

Trump might be done in NC.

My only propblem is the Democratic senator selection, Cal Cunningham. I wish we could have done better in that area.

Also, I hope people don’t lose this momentum when midterms come around in two year like they did with Obama. We need that same energy. We got to get that gerrymandering under control here.
 

sammyjax

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Did you read these?

Here's one that wasn't written 5 minutes after the election, check it out.

 

Dota

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I already submitted my ballot, but early voting in Nc starts next Thursday.

Trump might be done in NC.

My only propblem is the Democratic senator selection, Cal Cunningham. I wish we could have done better in that area.

Also, I hope people don’t lose this momentum when midterms come around in two year like they did with Obama. We need that same energy. We got to get that gerrymandering under control here.

That's for damn sure as NC is more than likely to pick up a Congressional seat because of the 2020 Census.
 

BKF

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"The Villages, where the median age is 66, is built on the American dream of a golden retirement. “We’ve created the backdrop of possibilities for you to write the next chapter in your story,” its website says.
Retirees can enjoy everything from golf to seminars on Mark Twain to drinking a cold beverage in the town square while listening to a “jamgrass” band (progressive bluegrass in the vein of Phish).
Politically, it long has been considered a conservative redoubt, so entrenched that it’s a must-stop for any national or statewide Republican running for office. One clear measure of its importance: Vice President Mike Pence’s scheduled visit Saturday.




"The Morse family, which developed the community northwest of Orlando, has given hundreds of thousands of dollars to Republican campaigns over the years. During the 2008 presidential race, GOP vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin drew a stadium-sized crowd with 60,000 residents flocking to see her in one of the community’s town squares.
Last fall, Trump picked The Villages to promote his support for Medicare and its private insurance option.
But on Wednesday, the scene told a markedly different story. An armada of as many as 500 golf carts gathered at the Sea Breeze Recreation Center to caravan to the nearby elections office, so folks could drop off ballots for Biden.

As each cart rolled into the parking lot and slid a ballot into a locked box under the watchful eye of elections supervisors, dozens lined the sidewalk, cheering and clapping every time a vote was cast.
“I think we all came out of the closet for this election,” said Branscome.
It’s not that there weren’t Hillary Clinton supporters in The Villages in 2016, said Chris Stanley, president of the community’s Democratic Club. There were.
But there was also “an overwhelming sense in 2016 of ‘we’ve got this in the bag.’ There was a level of complacency that she’d win,” said Stanley. “Now there’s a heightened sense of urgency, and in many ways, Trump has been our best recruiting tool ever.”

If the slow moving, four-wheel, golf cart show of force is an indication of growing allegiance to the Democrat among the retiree set, it would represent a substantial shift. In Florida, 29% of registered voters are 65 and older. As of Oct. 1, 43% were Republican, 37% were Democrats and 17% were nonpartisan."
 

BKF

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That's the "dismissal of SDNY charges" part. That orange niggas' about to get elected out anyhow. Too late chump
The SDNY (U.S. Attorney's Office for the Southern District of New York) is part of the federal government . That's not the same as the NY State Attorney General Office. Only the governor of NY would be able to pardon Trump on state charges. What do think the chances are that he woud do that?
 

HeathCliff

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"The Villages, where the median age is 66, is built on the American dream of a golden retirement. “We’ve created the backdrop of possibilities for you to write the next chapter in your story,” its website says.
Retirees can enjoy everything from golf to seminars on Mark Twain to drinking a cold beverage in the town square while listening to a “jamgrass” band (progressive bluegrass in the vein of Phish).
Politically, it long has been considered a conservative redoubt, so entrenched that it’s a must-stop for any national or statewide Republican running for office. One clear measure of its importance: Vice President Mike Pence’s scheduled visit Saturday.




"The Morse family, which developed the community northwest of Orlando, has given hundreds of thousands of dollars to Republican campaigns over the years. During the 2008 presidential race, GOP vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin drew a stadium-sized crowd with 60,000 residents flocking to see her in one of the community’s town squares.
Last fall, Trump picked The Villages to promote his support for Medicare and its private insurance option.
But on Wednesday, the scene told a markedly different story. An armada of as many as 500 golf carts gathered at the Sea Breeze Recreation Center to caravan to the nearby elections office, so folks could drop off ballots for Biden.

As each cart rolled into the parking lot and slid a ballot into a locked box under the watchful eye of elections supervisors, dozens lined the sidewalk, cheering and clapping every time a vote was cast.
“I think we all came out of the closet for this election,” said Branscome.
It’s not that there weren’t Hillary Clinton supporters in The Villages in 2016, said Chris Stanley, president of the community’s Democratic Club. There were.
But there was also “an overwhelming sense in 2016 of ‘we’ve got this in the bag.’ There was a level of complacency that she’d win,” said Stanley. “Now there’s a heightened sense of urgency, and in many ways, Trump has been our best recruiting tool ever.”

If the slow moving, four-wheel, golf cart show of force is an indication of growing allegiance to the Democrat among the retiree set, it would represent a substantial shift. In Florida, 29% of registered voters are 65 and older. As of Oct. 1, 43% were Republican, 37% were Democrats and 17% were nonpartisan."
Thank you for posting this
 

chitownsfinest

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The SDNY (U.S. Attorney's Office for the Southern District of New York) is part of the federal government . That's not the same as the NY State Attorney General Office. Only the governor of NY would be able to pardon Trump on state charges. What do think the chances are that he woud do that?
Ok...you're actually right. I'm high...sue me...
 
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