you not paying attention - Ish has been plugged in to the industry since Joe was still on DefJam
his network is not an issue - most of his clients come from the industry
the issue is his lack of interest in pursuing broadcasting
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his network is not an issue - most of his clients come from the industry
the issue is his lack of interest in pursuing broadcasting
I just recently learned about his history honestly
But he said from day one he isn't really up for all this podding. I get it.
I'm saying I think WITH his connections his legit investment background and his presence on the mic I could see him thriving if he chose to take that lane.
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Flip is COE 24/7 until proven otherwise.....
This is a ripple from that Tasha K interview.....
Flip knows the bts of Mandy's issues with Joe. So just going to her is COE. Cuz why wouldn't he come up?
I thought Ish did work around home repair or construction, so he may have experience buying, being a landlord and rehabbing homes.
Either way I'm not sure Ish would be good with a pod centered on investments or financial education. This isn't a slight against Ish, but he sounds more intelligent than he maybe do to the fact of the people he is on the pod with except M. Ford. Ish is very articulate, but if you pay attention to the times guests who are just as articulate but maybe slightly more informed visit the pod you'll notice a difference.
Having high social skills and being articulate are a gift. However, being articulate doesn't necessarily mean knowledgeable. If he had a show that focused on what he really knows ( I believe home repair etc..) or if he interviewed financial professionals, I think Ish would likely be successful. A pod around home repair/remodeling would also be safer for the community. I can't think of any outright scams that could hurt the black community from a pod that encourages young black men to learn a trade. Even for older audiences, you could potentially learn how to do things yourself around the house ie drywall repair or how to find a legitimate contractor.
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I say that because I like that he admits what he doesn't know.
I think he has valuable REAL experience enough to have a pod where he interviews and discusses positive financial education
I think a financial literacy podcast that gives people confidence and addresses some of the REAL issues about why we don't invest in other black ventures, our lack of trust and unrealistic expectations as new investors etc.
He made some solid points previously about how out issues with money are based not only in a lack of education but a lack of trust a lack of networking, sociological, psychological, emotional, and racism etc.
Maybe I'm giving him too much credit but the last few podcasts I have seen him solo discussion on money and the black community and DJ Envy situation made me think of all that.
I haven't watched the last two or so pods,so I may have missed his thoughts on Envy. I remember it being mentioned on one of the pods i watched, but I don't recall Ish going in depth about anything. Flip mainly called out Joe for shitting on an former friend.
Not having certain knowledge leaves Ish or his audience to the same dangers that Envy ran into. I'm likely alone in this, but I don't believe Envy was fully aware of the scamming by his partner. When you consider the issues with recent black financial influences like you alluded to, Ish could find himself in similar problems. Even if it's inadvertently endorsing a scammer.
If he sticks strictly to what he knows or is well informed enough to fact check information being presented, I'd overall agree with you. Clearly he's looking to use his time with the JBP to get other checks or build his business.
It'd very sad if this Envy situation damages ALL the black financial podcasts. Which is what I eluded to you earlier as reason even if Ish was so inclined he wouldn't do it anytime soon.
And it's a huge burden any black enterprise has to be held to a higher standard and higher expectations as opposed to a white run or other run businesses
not to derail...
I don't know Envy. From what I do know? he cheated on his wife, is cowardly, fake tough, petty and holds grudges.
I also think his ego wouldn't allow him to risk getting exposed as a thief.
But again you never know.
I only mentioned black influencers because I assume that would likely be Ish's audience. Every community has scammers, so I'm by no means trying to say black influencers are any worse than white or other groups. I've never been a fan of shitting on black people while acting as if other groups are better or don't do the same shit. Just like any crime, you're more likely to harm those from your own community before others.
Even with Envy, to my knowledge he is the biggest name linked to something like this, but there's been a few black financial influenceers who have been linked to questionable activities or outright scams. Jay Morrison is someone who comes to mind and ironically also appeared on the Breakfast Club. Luckily, I believe Angela brought him on, so Envy doesn't seemingly have a history of this type of behavior. EYL also allegedly had scammers on too.
The reason I'm more pro trade/home repair education is that you have to do more to get involved.lets use putting up drywall and Hvac work. On the surface simply enough but it's still a skill that will require time to be proficient and you'll need to get a certification for trade work.with investment education people are more likely to trust a third party to do the work for them and probably expect fast short term gains. It's not hard to hand over 30k to someone. Most people are discouraged by anything that takes time to achieve. While not completely scam proof, having a pod or show around home repair would be safer for the community than financial education.
Plus if I'm Joe no one is doing anything financial related while they are a part of my platform. Like you said, it's not the best look right now especially if you don't have some kind of formal certification/education to support what you are saying.
Agreed.
I saw this. The main push back I'll give to part of what was said is some people being paid back or getting money. That's how ponzis work. It's normally the people who are at the end of the scam or who continue to reinvest who end up losing.
The show American Greed showed this happening all the time. American Greed also showed people who sound similar to what Ish was talking about. People who had good intentions, but lost the money. They didn't want to admit failing and went on to lie until getting caught. From what is being said, that doesn't sound like Ceasar so far. It sounds like Ceasar really was defrauding people at somepoint.
I'm also assuming he made these statements before more information came out. Allegedly, Ceasar never owned some of the properties he was getting people to invest in or sold the same home multiple times.
I overall agree about people not necessarily understanding that investing means potentially losing money as well as potentially making money. The crypto example wasn't the best, but I agree with what I believe he was getting at. The issue is some of the things in crypto were scams, but there was no one to hold accountable in most cases.
acting or not i knew this would happen after i found out he was interviewing her
flip a goof sometimes u know what it was
also i thought that woman and joe were good she didnt say anything crazy with bag fuel
Damn
he is doing his best funny marco impression
Well damn
full segment was 10 to 15 minutes - this alone is worth a patreon sub
I was listening to this at 4a today - I was in tears and howling
full segment was 10 to 15 minutes - this alone is worth a patreon sub
I was listening to this at 4a today - I was in tears and howling
I KNEW you would!!!!!
at first it was wtf is she blathering about? is she delusional?
then Emmany and Ish started gently tip toeing around her bs until Joe started dropping spades
that was some Ali G level of comedy