Kendrick Lamar disses Drake & J Cole on Metro Boomin & Futures Album/ Rick Ross Responds/ Kanye Responds/Kendrick Responds 4X / Drake Responds 3X

REDLINE

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Sorry I didn't mean you were confused, I meant @REDLINE as he used Black Rap instead of Black Hip-Hop.

NOW, they're mostly white, but did they didn't start that way? There are way too many factors to take into account when doing the numbers on that. Poorer communities (black and white) are going to dub albums for each other (back in the day) than the individual buying an album. The way music works today you just use spotify and listen to your music, nobody is really buying music anymore. But when you buy a ticket to the show (mostly white attendants) that ticket comes with with a digital download for the album that ends up getting counted as a sale...so technically from this aspect, yes. Millions of records sold by Eminem were bought by White people.

I said that I was an Eminem fan at one point. I know he has fans, that Marley Marl vs Eminem thread proves that and I am also not saying he doesn't have talent. The problem I have always had was that he gets dubbed the King of Rap, this is Elvis all over again and we're just being complacent.

Rap and Hip Hop go hand in hand as it's one of the essential elements.
 

0utsyder

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Additionally, most of the muthafucka's in this thread don't listen to Kendrick like that.

They just hate Drake so much that once there was a reason to voice their hate they


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Oh, this is TOTALLY me!!!! I know of Kendrick, but I can't name tw...Fcuk it ONE Kendrick song. Nothing against the brotha, just never got into his music. BUT I have ALWAYS hated Drake.
 

REDLINE

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Oh, this is TOTALLY me!!!! I know of Kendrick, but I can't name tw...Fcuk it ONE Kendrick song. Nothing against the brotha, just never got into his music. BUT I have ALWAYS hated Drake.

:lol: At your hate for Drake.

I know and listen to Kendrick's album, but it's not music that I go back and listen to.

And I don't know why because it's good music

Similar to Drake. I'll listen to his album when it first comes out but rarely go back and listen.

Like Kendrick, I like his music too but rarely go back to listen.
 

0utsyder

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:lol: At your hate for Drake.

I know and listen to Kendrick's album, but it's not music that I go back and listen to.

And I don't know why because it's good music

Similar to Drake. I'll listen to his album when it first comes out but rarely go back and listen.

Like Kendrick, I like his music too but rarely go back to listen.
Same. I listened to Pimp a Butterfly I just couldn't get into it. I listened to Drake and just did NOT like it. Then found out who he was and REALLY did not like it or him.
 

0utsyder

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Usually when one says Hip Hop they're talking about and mean Hip Hop "Music".

Not breakdancing, DJing or graffiti, but okay.
I use Hip-Hop in the context of culture. I don't consider myself a Rap fan, cause ANYBODY can rap. I am a Hip-Hop fan. Most rappers know nothing of breakin, DJing or the Arts, but they are still a rapper. You can be a rapper and not be of the Hip-Hop culture. You have people giving themselves the title DJ: ACKedemics, VLAD, etc...but they don't DJ. Hence why I make the distinction between rap fans and hip-hop fans, they aren't the same.
 

REDLINE

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I use Hip-Hop in the context of culture. I don't consider myself a Rap fan, cause ANYBODY can rap. I am a Hip-Hop fan. Most rappers know nothing of breakin, DJing or the Arts, but they are still a rapper. You can be a rapper and not be of the Hip-Hop culture. You have people giving themselves the title DJ: ACKedemics, VLAD, etc...but they don't DJ. Hence why I make the distinction between rap fans and hip-hop fans, they aren't the same.

You're right they're not the same but...







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Can you describe what Hip Hop culture is? I know what I think it is, but I'd like to hear your definition.
 

TheFuser

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Coolee Bravo (Chicago emcee - ghostwriter - close to Kendrick. He calls Kendrick's mom his mom too) went on discord and spilled a bunch of background info last night. He has beef with one of Drake's ghostwriters BEAM (Kendrick name dropped BEAM on EUPHORIA). If you've followed him the entire beef he's been spot on with everything. He said EUPHORIA, 6:16, MEET THE GRAHAMS, & NOT LIKE US are all just jabs. Basically said those tracks aren't the deep dive Kendrick was alluding to. And Dot won't drop them if Drake doesn't drop anything else.


Here's some of the notes from the session:


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Here's the full audio
 
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0utsyder

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You're right they're not the same but...







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I video tape the wife and I having sex, so I am a pornstar!!! That teacher that recorded his students taking his hair down is a Social Media Influencer. Just cause you made a couple of bucks off of a job doesn't mean that's your job title for life. You STOP being a doctor when they bar your medical license.
Can you describe what Hip Hop culture is? I know what I think it is, but I'd like to hear your definition.
Not so much what Hip-Hop culture is, but where it came from, it's history is how I would describe the culture. The contributions of cats battling I think is the root of that. Not just rap battles. You used to have DJ battles, B-Boy battles, folks tagging over other peoples pieces. Marley Marl bringing everything under one umbrella.
 

spider705

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Coolee Bravo (Chicago emcee - ghostwriter - close to Kendrick. He calls Kendrick's mom his mom too) went on discord and spilled a bunch of background info last night. He has beef with one of Drake's ghostwriters BEAM (Kendrick name dropped BEAM on EUPHORIA). If you've followed him the entire beef he's been spot on with everything. He said EUPHORIA, 6:16, MEET THE GRAHAMS, & NOT LIKE US are all just jabs. Basically said those tracks aren't the deep dive Kendrick was alluding to. And Dot won't drop them if Drake doesn't drop anything else.


Here's some of the notes from the session:


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Here's the full audio

This shit LITERALLY just came across my THREADS feed
 

REDLINE

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I video tape the wife and I having sex, so I am a pornstar!!! That teacher that recorded his students taking his hair down is a Social Media Influencer. Just cause you made a couple of bucks off of a job doesn't mean that's your job title for life. You STOP being a doctor when they bar your medical license.

Not so much what Hip-Hop culture is, but where it came from, it's history is how I would describe the culture. The contributions of cats battling I think is the root of that. Not just rap battles. You used to have DJ battles, B-Boy battles, folks tagging over other peoples pieces. Marley Marl bringing everything under one umbrella.

I respeck it.
 

spider705

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He brought up a point I've been saying... Dissing Pharrell doesn't get you cool points. Drake is at war with three of the dopest hip hop producers, P, Ye, and Metro. Not smart from a tact standpoint.
That point too about the REAL big 3, I never really thought about it as I usually take Kanye crazy ass out of all of those type conversations...

But when talking IMPACT, a very solid argument can be made that the REAL is Kanye, Future and Kendrick.

And what is this eboni, dog/animal fetish shit... did I miss something???
 

spider705

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So Drake sounds like Prince to you? Because Dreams entire persona is a Prince knock off


I'm listening to that song staring at my phone like, you literally posted a song that is similar to that Drake shit that was posted. Only difference is the Drake joint sounds a bit muffled or muted in comparison to what Dream did here... but I guess we can agree to disagree on this one...
 

TheFuser

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That point too about the REAL big 3, I never really thought about it as I usually take Kanye crazy ass out of all of those type conversations...

But when talking IMPACT, a very solid argument can be made that the REAL is Kanye, Future and Kendrick.

And what is this eboni, dog/animal fetish shit... did I miss something???

The EbonyPirnce person spilling secrets... I read a recap but didn't see the post but apparently he said Drake has a thing about treating women like dogs. Like making them eat out of dog bowls and shit like that. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
 

Dr. Truth

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I'm listening to that song staring at my phone like, you literally posted a song that is similar to that Drake shit that was posted. Only difference is the Drake joint sounds a bit muffled or muted in comparison to what Dream did here... but I guess we can agree to disagree on this one...
lol Bruh that’s Prince down to the Drums but agree to disagree
 

Day_Carver

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That point too about the REAL big 3, I never really thought about it as I usually take Kanye crazy ass out of all of those type conversations...

But when talking IMPACT, a very solid argument can be made that the REAL is Kanye, Future and Kendrick.

And what is this eboni, dog/animal fetish shit... did I miss something???
It just depends on how you look at it; highest selling is kdot drake Travis Cole, no particular order; influence well that’s another category; lyrically abilities well that’s another category; but for me no one encompasses more of everything than kdot…
 

Day_Carver

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:lol: At your hate for Drake.

I know and listen to Kendrick's album, but it's not music that I go back and listen to.

And I don't know why because it's good music

Similar to Drake. I'll listen to his album when it first comes out but rarely go back and listen.

Like Kendrick, I like his music too but rarely go back to listen.
If you can’t go back to good kid maad city or damn then I don’t know what to tell you…
 

Day_Carver

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I agree with you I didn’t follow Drake too hard, but I knew he had some foul shit in the background. Drake house was not clean and yet he exposed his house to everyone

Drake was surrounded by too many yes men outside of that bubble a lot of people did not like his attitude and the way he did things. He always had a little bit of arrogance, but the money and those yes men around him, made it very unbearable for a lot of people.
“Stop playing with me before I turn you into a song”…
 

0utsyder

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Man PIMP is an amazing album; you gotta listen without expectations or expecting radio records; do that and that shit hits different…
Kendrick is like PAC to me. I get the message in the music, but I am more MidWestern and New York flavor. I can enjoy it for what it is, but it gets too preachy for me. I get enough of that from my religious family, but I can give it another go.
 

0utsyder

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PIMP was a little preachy but amazing!! DAMN he let go of the preachy or hid it lol..:
Don't get me wrong you're an artist you should express however. And PAC was REALLY good at hiding his sermons in iconic songs. As a son of a preacher man they seem to jump out at me.
 
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