Nah, he just been there, done thatAt least he gets to keep the house. California pre-nups ain't worth shit. Gotta say Dr. Dre must have the best motherfucking lawyer ever
And she’s contesting the pre-nup.
I swear man. There is no protection for us out here. Judges aren't enforcing prenups as written and agreed. What say the attorneys on here? Is there an iron clad option that doesn't include leather gloves?
From what I understand a lot of prenups get thrown out because they're considered "unfair" towards one of the party. Like a prenup that says that you leave with what you brought in and the man is a millionaire and the woman is from some third world country or a stripper lol supposedly those get thrown out all the time. I've heard that it's best to make sure both parties are taken care of in some way even if it's undeserved.I swear man. There is no protection for us out here. Judges aren't enforcing prenups as written and agreed. What say the attorneys on here? Is there an iron clad option that doesn't include leather gloves?
Some truth here. I dated a divorce lawyer for a year. Here’s how crazy the shit is, she lost in her divorce and got creamed. She told me so much shit that I was soured to marriage right there. I had to ask her not to tell me shit because she was crushing MF’s souls, male and female. I’ll give you an example: prenupts must be amended/updated. Let’s say the woman agrees to leave with only what she came with. You marry her and 5 years into the marriage she get develops an illness, that prenup is now dead. Another story she told me was a successful man did some Tiger Woods, marry a waitress bullshit. He was older and wanted to build her up, so he told her she could quit working and go to college full time. Because he told her to give up her income, he owed her alimony after he found out she was fucking guys her age. Once he told her to quit her job; that became a contract between. If you take a job in another state you need have your attorney check the laws of that state. There’s a million ways to break a prenupt. It’s crazy.From what I understand a lot of prenups get thrown out because they're considered "unfair" towards one of the party. Like a prenup that says that you leave with what you brought in and the man is a millionaire and the woman is from some third world country or a stripper lol supposedly those get thrown out all the time. I've heard that it's best to make sure both parties are taken care of in some way even if it's undeserved.
but in reality you would have to be a fool to get married in this country and as big a fool to live with someone in a state that has common law marriage
$129k a month?????
They'd have to call S.W.A.T. because I would be in that judge's face like
"Say 129,000 again! Say it again!"
Some truth here. I dated a divorce lawyer for a year. Here’s how crazy the shit is, she lost in her divorce and got creamed. She told me so much shit that I was soured to marriage right there. I had to ask her not to tell me shit because she was crushing MF’s souls, male and female. I’ll give you an example: prenupts must be amended/updated. Let’s say the woman agrees to leave with only what she came with. You marry her and 5 years into the marriage she get develops an illness, that prenup is now dead. Another story she told me was a successful man did some Tiger Woods, marry a waitress bullshit. He was older and wanted to build her up, so he told her she could quit working and go to college full time. Because he told her to give up her income, he owed her alimony after he found out she was fucking guys her age. Once he told her to quit her job; that became a contract between. If you take a job in another state you need have your attorney check the laws of that state. There’s a million ways to break a prenupt. It’s crazy.
Also, two things automatically break aaaaaaaany prenupt: physical and sexual abuse. If she can convince them you’re abusive, manipulate or molested or beat the kids; you are fucked. Now since she’s shown (false or not) that you groomed the kids for sex or manipulated her she can say she signed the prenupt under duress. You were such a charmer and manipulator that she couldn’t think straight when she signed it. That’s why a lot of divorced men are on the sexual predator list. And you will most likely lose if you wife a chick with a daughter. That daughter loves her momma and her real daddy; so she can lie and say you touched her, but didn’t penetrate or whatever then you-are-fucked. If you’re a molester; that stigma stays with you forever. Stop dating or marrying women with young daughters—that’s the first trick they use to break prenupts. She can tell her daughter you have an uncircumcised penis, crooked or it has a mole on it and once she tells the judge that, your ass is in hot water! Imagine you think shit is sweet but she planning to leave you, and she hates or never loved you. She could ask you for a dick pic, you send it. She can then take your phone if you trust her enough to have the code, and send that dick pic to her daughters phone, sit and wait. How can you prove you never sent her daughter that dick pic??? That lawyer told me shit that made me cringe.
its interesting how when a woman gets involved or marries or has a baby with a piece of shit man the response is its HER fault for not vetting the man she's involved with. She basically gets what she deserves.From what I understand a lot of prenups get thrown out because they're considered "unfair" towards one of the party. Like a prenup that says that you leave with what you brought in and the man is a millionaire and the woman is from some third world country or a stripper lol supposedly those get thrown out all the time. I've heard that it's best to make sure both parties are taken care of in some way even if it's undeserved.
but in reality you would have to be a fool to get married in this country and as big a fool to live with someone in a state that has common law marriage
Exactly. Imagine that, a fair prenup is unfair. And the chick supposed to have her own lawyer.From what I understand a lot of prenups get thrown out because they're considered "unfair" towards one of the party. Like a prenup that says that you leave with what you brought in and the man is a millionaire and the woman is from some third world country or a stripper lol supposedly those get thrown out all the time. I've heard that it's best to make sure both parties are taken care of in some way even if it's undeserved.
but in reality you would have to be a fool to get married in this country and as big a fool to live with someone in a state that has common law marriage
its interesting how when a woman gets involved or marries or has a baby with a piece of shit man the response is its HER fault for not vetting the man she's involved with. She basically gets what she deserves.
But when a man gets involved or marries or has a baby with a piece of shit woman the response is its HER fault or the courts fault or society's fault for the man somehow not vetting the woman he's involved with. Fir tricking him or somehow baiting and switching him into something thats designed to work against him.
I'm just saying this is how it seems to work around here...
NO ONE can seem to answer this question??
Vetting is necessary for sure, but at the end of the day, people change and are influenced (consciously or not) by things or experiences that contribute to the change that you have no control over. Marriage vows especially nowadays are just words and a lot of people get married for the wrong reasons or have no business getting married in the first place.its interesting how when a woman gets involved or marries or has a baby with a piece of shit man the response is its HER fault for not vetting the man she's involved with. She basically gets what she deserves.
But when a man gets involved or marries or has a baby with a piece of shit woman the response is its HER fault or the courts fault or society's fault for the man somehow not vetting the woman he's involved with. Fir tricking him or somehow baiting and switching him into something thats designed to work against him.
I'm just saying this is how it seems to work around here...
As to the bolded statement....one of the staple elements and conditions of the marriage CONTRACT is IN SICKNESS AND IN HEALTH. Along with pledging monogamy...if a person HAS NO INTENTION of doing those things then why get married in the first place???
NO ONE can seem to answer this question??
Nah, he just been there, done that
Ruben Studdard?he should have used Ruben Studdard's lawyer.....
or
Ruben Studdard?
but theres a couple of important details missed here..Vetting is necessary for sure, but at the end of the day, people change and are influenced (consciously or not) by things or experiences that contribute to the change that you have no control over. Marriage vows especially nowadays are just words and a lot of people get married for the wrong reasons or have no business getting married in the first place.
I've never subscribed to being able to control anyone but myself. So the notion of just picking the right woman while true is nowhere near foolproof nor guaranteed to last into perpetuity.
The fact is, the courts aren't here to protect us and the equality a lot of women are fighting for stops at the court steps. Whether it's marriage, child support, criminal, we often get the short end of the stick. We're also seeing that things that are made to protect us, aren't. For me, the villain is the person who is leaving the situation in bad faith.
IMO, contesting an agreed upon prenup is bad faith even if the other person ends up being an asshole. If you see what she is trying to do, Kevin Costner's wife is clearly the asshole here and I'm glad people are seeing more of these women look like predators because it will educate men on how to move forward while trying to protecting what you've built. Don't forget, she filed the divorce and wants to use the courts to find loopholes to contest the prenup. On top of that he'll probably have to pay her attorney fees.
It's nasty out here for us...
but theres a couple of important details missed here..
1. a major contributing factor initially seemed to be the fact that Costner continued to work a very busy project schedule that took him away from his family for extended periods. And that was a big issue in their break up.
2. Your points make more sense in Tiger Woods situation than this one. Tiger DATED a chick...they supposedly had some kind of agreement she was trying to hold tiger to etc etc...but thats a GIRLFRIEND..Thats someone he was DATING..thats not marriage and life oaths..
Kevin Costner married a woman BUILT A FAMILY and LIFE together with her...its the same with Tom Brady and Gisselle. The biggest issue in both their marriages is the wife feeling like THEY were baited and switched....they signed up for a father and husband that would be I dunno.... PRESENT for ya know... MOST of a year??
We're not talking about guys who have get out here and dig a ditch to make ends meet...AND these break ups come decades later...been married 10 years...15 years...or more.
These are VERY rich men who CHOOSE to do projects that take them away from their FAMILY for long periods of time.
It may seem crazy to YOU but in these cases it seems the women are looking for PRESENT husbands and fathers in a life where they ALREADY accomplished pretty much everything they wanted...Toms already won multiple superbowls and set umpteen records....Kevins got oscars and emmys and has at least a 3 or 4 movies that are benchmark in his long ass career. Career wise what more do they need??
They still have young children....is it really that unreasonable that their wives want to spend more time with their husbands? Especially when theyre rich AF and can afford to NOT work as much??
Well if you're on a discount flight to Denver, you might run into herRuben Studdard's Ex-Wife Gets Nothing In Divorce Settlement
Ruben Studdard is leaving his marriage with everything he came with, including the engagement ring.theurbandaily.com
that last sentence tho........"While Ruben Studdard walked away with all of thee money he earned during the marriage and not having to pay any spousal support, McCants got to keep her wedding dress, a 2006 BMW that Studdard must finish paying for, ten thousand dollars in a property settlement, a two thousand dollars for attorney fees, and some photo albums. Basically, Surata McCants is leaving her marriage dead broke and naked."
To your first point I never said or have never said anything like that, in fact I said you'd be a fool(male or female) to get married, especially if you have more money than your significant other, saying you're a fool is blaming the person who decided to get married not a woman.its interesting how when a woman gets involved or marries or has a baby with a piece of shit man the response is its HER fault for not vetting the man she's involved with. She basically gets what she deserves.
But when a man gets involved or marries or has a baby with a piece of shit woman the response is its HER fault or the courts fault or society's fault for the man somehow not vetting the woman he's involved with. Fir tricking him or somehow baiting and switching him into something thats designed to work against him.
I'm just saying this is how it seems to work around here...
As to the bolded statement....one of the staple elements and conditions of the marriage CONTRACT is IN SICKNESS AND IN HEALTH. Along with pledging monogamy...if a person HAS NO INTENTION of doing those things then why get married in the first place???
NO ONE can seem to answer this question??
I posted this 13 years ago:To your first point I never said or have never said anything like that, in fact I said you'd be a fool(male or female) to get married, especially if you have more money than your significant other, saying you're a fool is blaming the person who decided to get married not a woman.
I'm not part of the bgol he-man woman haters club, I'm part of the American law sucks and no adult should be forced to take care of another adult or pay millions in child support when it doesn't cost that much to raise a child. Lol
My example was gendered because that's the dynamic we see the most in this country but ether way you're a dumbass for getting married if you're rich,(and probably a dumb ass for getting married at all at this point) also as we know that unfortunately In this country the laws aren't as egalitarian as I am, the court often rules in favor of women when it comes to custody and alimony regardless of the facts and situation. I don't see any parent as superior to the other as it takes two to make a life, I believe custody should be approached from a 50/50 starting point and then adjusted based on the facts and circumstances/ condition of the parent, Men shouldn't default to just getting visitation.
Also to your last point(which I know wasn't directed at me) in sickness and in health is a vow that you can include but don't have to use, it's pretty wishful thinking but in most cases isn't some legally binding contract.(unless you have a prenup that states that I suppose)
To summarize, marriage is dumb, and it's more dumb if you have money. Lol
I think the romantized concept of marriage is the reason for the downslide of the institution. For thousands of years people joined in marriage for a myraid of reasons and love wasn't the number one reason. Today we call those kinds of relationships marriages of convenience and look down on it but that was the standard for longer than the romantic concept.
for the last few hundred years marriage is seen in a romantic/love concept and that isn't neccesarily a strong foundation or at least not as strong as honesty and trust.
More don't get married rhetoric, but if a woman is a single mother, she's trash.
If you don't want to get married that is all well and good, but couple that with a message of wrapping it up, so you don't produce kids, or celibacy. Right now the message is still RAW IS LIFE. How many folks around here are part of the problem? How many have kids by multiple women and/or kids by women they never married?
*Don’t marry without thorough knowledge of prenupts.
*Don’t date or marry serial single mothers.
*Don’t date single mothers with a child by an asshole, thug or criminal.
The day high-earning home-owning women consistently date average-earning men, marriage will make sense again to men. (Doubtful). Until women put skin in the game, they can’t keep acting as if they don’t know WHY men aren’t getting married. Not married to THEM, but avoiding the contract altogether. Men are taking all the risk with fleeting rewards. Starts out great; devolves into “cheaper to keep ‘er” in far too many situations. And, let’s be honest; we can talk about men’s shortcomings and easily say women’s are on par. With this legal system, it makes zero sense for an accomplished man to marry if the woman doesn’t have or earn on his level or greater.
So, for those reasons…I’M OUT!