Kevin Costner may choke a bitch as judge orders $129K a month in child support

bgbtylvr

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If you don't want to get married that is all well and good, but couple that with a message of wrapping it up, so you don't produce kids, or celibacy. Right now the message is still RAW IS LIFE. How many folks around here are part of the problem? How many have kids by multiple women and/or kids by women they never married?
Agreed. “Raw is life” is just a thing these fools on her say. Most aren’t hitting raw or eating as much taint as they boast of. I got a vasectomy years ago (I’m early 50’s) never wanted kids. I wanted to marry two exes, both are highly successful and I can’t tell you those types don’t want marriage, they often want to blend assets and incomes to meet a certain standard of living. They don’t want to, nor are most capable of being wives. Most of their friends aren’t married or even committed. To alpha and skrong. They can be soros and church lady, don’t want a husband.

Flip it and you have highly-desired men that can have their pick—nobody should marry them, but many want him and try to. Nobody is marrying for the right reasons and social media has done a huge disservice to dating and marriage. I know 3 men with 5 baby mommas minimum, and a lot with 2 or 3 baby mommas. Those men swim in pussy STILL. All my chill, go-getter homies with no kids have to chase women—almost make em submit like MMA. Then they find out she has a baby daddy or two that she can’t stand. Or, she was a career woman into her 40’s and never had time for a man; but nooooow, would like to find a nice guy with no baggage. Standard shit. The only man who will take a 40+ career woman who’s also a sorority chick is a player. Men of substance need you present, not pulled in 100 directions on some “My people neeeeed me!” shit. Ha! Most of these men women choose were neeeeeeever boyfriend or husband material; pregnant by em at 37! Lmao! Heartbroken over em. Women don’t like nice guys until that wall hits em; hence, why so many “bad boys” get all that dime pieces pregnant. Not all (I hate saying that) but the prettiest women in my family and that I know as friends ALLLLLL have kids by assholes; even my mother. My dad had 7 kids when she met him. Two kids by him.

I believe a man with a kid shouldn’t be able to rule out a woman with one. I believe once a man has plateaued in life: career, income, assets, he should not get married unless she has equal or more assets. I know 3 women (2 white, one black) divorced from successful men who are rich simply because of who they divorced. These SAME women won’t date a man making under 100k. My friend is divorced from a prominent retired atlanta falcon. Know what she says “I can’t find a man on my level!” What? You took half this mans shit, own tons of rental properties you bought with HIS game checks and alimony, but you can’t find a guy who also has multiple 6-figure free money and dozens of rental properties and 30k a month in residual income????? Lmao! You mean THAT guy is rare??? She won’t remarry because she’ll lose her alimony (she said this) EVEN THOUGH the rental properties bring in 30k a month!

Get married for what? It’s fools gold and a poor man’s game.

For those reasons; I am also out. :lol:
 

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“Raw is life” is just a thing these fools on her say. Most aren’t hitting raw or eating as much taint as they boast of.



I know 3 men with 5 baby mommas minimum, and a lot with 2 or 3 baby mommas. Those men swim in pussy STILL.

By your own account it can't be JUST something said on here.
 

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How does one avoid the argument that the pre nup was signed under duress? Do you ask for marriage and then that very minute slide the agreement over?
 

bxclark

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I posted this 13 years ago:



and Ive posted this on the subject before:

The vows are a CONTRACT, a VERBAL AGREEMENT, a PUBLIC PLEDGE and the bolded words are specific details that spell out your responsibilities to your spouse...this is why a WITNESS must be present. This is why God is mentioned as the one who you making these promises under.

And the problem in this thread and in our society is that cats think that those vows are just a lip service formality and theyre still free to do whatever they want as long as they financially take care of the woman. If you go into business with someone and you have a CONTRACT that spell out both your responsibilities to the business and the other person VIOLATES EVEN ONE OF THE TERMS OF THE CONTRACT you can SUE them for that and get monetary compensation for the BREACH.

Thats what american divorce is. Thats what ALIMONY is. Its a LEGAL proceeding to determine who violated their agreement and how the injured party should be COMPENSATED for that violation of their CONTRACTUAL OBLIGATIONS.

Its the reason Tiger woods had to pay his WIFE 100 million dollars for violating his marriage contract vs his GIRFRIEND getting nothing even tho she says he made promises to her. The court's not entertaining that bullshit.

He may end up giving her a couple 100k to get rid of her but thats mainly due to us living in an extremely litigious society where settlements are the easiest way to deal with dumbshit.
I'm baffled by your logic bro. Especially on this topic. You are soapboxing on marriage and vows focusing on how men view them, when a simple GOOGLE search will show you that 70% are initiated by women. So remind me again who is largely responsible for this lip service vow shit you are referring to? The majority of divorces at this point are due to irreconcilable differences at that... including the very one that started this topic.

While many will take it this way, it's not hate on women.. it's observable data, reality or in other words, fact. If this happened in reverse I personally would think it would be foul if a dude tried to milk his rich wife knowing he is taking advantage of the situation. Fair is fair. But somehow, on BGOL, the minute you speak out against some bullshit being done by a woman, you hate women. Goofy shit. I certainly don't but if it's perceived that way then so be it.

I don't subscribe to everyone's perspective on here and can say with certainty definitely not yours because your angle has always seemed to point a finger at the man in the situation at all costs or find a way to include him in the problem regardless of the scenario.

If the women is doing some grimey shit (i.e. asking 250k per month after signing a prenup) she is foul! Simple and plain. Folk like you come on here quick to be like, well men so and so and such and such... like really. We are the problem 100% of the time.. come on bro.

Marriage works for some. I don't knock it at all under any circumstance. Just make it work for you/y'all. Shit... while I wouldn't (and my fault for the stray), look at Bullet. If he's happy who the fuck are we to say otherwise. It's his life. The ultimate and factual point is that the cards/systems in place are stacked against us when it comes to marriages whether you have money or not.

Anyway, I'm not attacking you, just addressing your points and perspective. Peace.
 

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I'm baffled by your logic bro. Especially on this topic. You are soapboxing on marriage and vows focusing on how men view them, when a simple GOOGLE search will show you that 70% are initiated by women. So remind me again who is largely responsible for this lip service vow shit you are referring to? The majority of divorces at this point are due to irreconcilable differences at that... including the very one that started this topic.

While many will take it this way, it's not hate on women.. it's observable data, reality or in other words, fact. If this happened in reverse I personally would think it would be foul if a dude tried to milk his rich wife knowing he is taking advantage of the situation. Fair is fair. But somehow, on BGOL, the minute you speak out against some bullshit being done by a woman, you hate women. Goofy shit. I certainly don't but if it's perceived that way then so be it.

I don't subscribe to everyone's perspective on here and can say with certainty definitely not yours because your angle has always seemed to point a finger at the man in the situation at all costs or find a way to include him in the problem regardless of the scenario.

If the women is doing some grimey shit (i.e. asking 250k per month after signing a prenup) she is foul! Simple and plain. Folk like you come on here quick to be like, well men so and so and such and such... like really. We are the problem 100% of the time.. come on bro.

Marriage works for some. I don't knock it at all under any circumstance. Just make it work for you/y'all. Shit... while I wouldn't (and my fault for the stray), look at Bullet. If he's happy who the fuck are we to say otherwise. It's his life. The ultimate and factual point is that the cards/systems in place are stacked against us when it comes to marriages whether you have money or not.

Anyway, I'm not attacking you, just addressing your points and perspective. Peace.
I appreciate the perspective and appreciate that you did it without getting insulting or make personal attacks..I'm at work but I'll post this evening
 

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but theres a couple of important details missed here..

1. a major contributing factor initially seemed to be the fact that Costner continued to work a very busy project schedule that took him away from his family for extended periods. And that was a big issue in their break up.

2. Your points make more sense in Tiger Woods situation than this one. Tiger DATED a chick...they supposedly had some kind of agreement she was trying to hold tiger to etc etc...but thats a GIRLFRIEND..Thats someone he was DATING..thats not marriage and life oaths..

Kevin Costner married a woman BUILT A FAMILY and LIFE together with her...its the same with Tom Brady and Gisselle. The biggest issue in both their marriages is the wife feeling like THEY were baited and switched....they signed up for a father and husband that would be I dunno.... PRESENT for ya know... MOST of a year??

We're not talking about guys who have get out here and dig a ditch to make ends meet...AND these break ups come decades later...been married 10 years...15 years...or more.

These are VERY rich men who CHOOSE to do projects that take them away from their FAMILY for long periods of time.

It may seem crazy to YOU but in these cases it seems the women are looking for PRESENT husbands and fathers in a life where they ALREADY accomplished pretty much everything they wanted...Toms already won multiple superbowls and set umpteen records....Kevins got oscars and emmys and has at least a 3 or 4 movies that are benchmark in his long ass career. Career wise what more do they need??

They still have young children....is it really that unreasonable that their wives want to spend more time with their husbands? Especially when theyre rich AF and can afford to NOT work as much??
You are a pathetic white knight simp. In order for him to provide the high standard of living his wife and children enjoy. He had to decide to be the man and work those long hours and be unavailable for long periods of time. You think this bitch didn’t know his busy schedule before decided to say Yes when he proposed to her? It’s simps like you the reason women are allowed to makes excuses for their bad behavior.
 

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that last sentence tho........"While Ruben Studdard walked away with all of thee money he earned during the marriage and not having to pay any spousal support, McCants got to keep her wedding dress, a 2006 BMW that Studdard must finish paying for, ten thousand dollars in a property settlement, a two thousand dollars for attorney fees, and some photo albums. Basically, Surata McCants is leaving her marriage dead broke and naked."
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geechiedan

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I'm baffled by your logic bro. Especially on this topic. You are soapboxing on marriage and vows focusing on how men view them, when a simple GOOGLE search will show you that 70% are initiated by women. So remind me again who is largely responsible for this lip service vow shit you are referring to? The majority of divorces at this point are due to irreconcilable differences at that... including the very one that started this topic.

While many will take it this way, it's not hate on women.. it's observable data, reality or in other words, fact. If this happened in reverse I personally would think it would be foul if a dude tried to milk his rich wife knowing he is taking advantage of the situation. Fair is fair. But somehow, on BGOL, the minute you speak out against some bullshit being done by a woman, you hate women. Goofy shit. I certainly don't but if it's perceived that way then so be it.

I don't subscribe to everyone's perspective on here and can say with certainty definitely not yours because your angle has always seemed to point a finger at the man in the situation at all costs or find a way to include him in the problem regardless of the scenario.

If the women is doing some grimey shit (i.e. asking 250k per month after signing a prenup) she is foul! Simple and plain. Folk like you come on here quick to be like, well men so and so and such and such... like really. We are the problem 100% of the time.. come on bro.

Marriage works for some. I don't knock it at all under any circumstance. Just make it work for you/y'all. Shit... while I wouldn't (and my fault for the stray), look at Bullet. If he's happy who the fuck are we to say otherwise. It's his life. The ultimate and factual point is that the cards/systems in place are stacked against us when it comes to marriages whether you have money or not.

Anyway, I'm not attacking you, just addressing your points and perspective. Peace.
you are aware that up until some 50 years ago...for various reasons it was difficult and stigmatizing for women to divorce their husbands. Hell up until 50 years ago in western culture a man could sexually assault his wife and it wasn't called rape.

So yeah..when all of that shit changed women were like "I dont have to put up with this bullshit anymore!" So that stat is not shocking given the history of marriage in the US and western culture for the last couple 100 years at least.

I'm not saying that women cant be devious. But in this situation they were married for over a decade so unless shes been playing some kind of long ass con that includes kids and playing the good wife for damn near 2 decades... I'd say that theyre break up has probably more to with some genuine issues in their relationship than some kind of foul scheme.

As far as demanding 250 a month... she had his kids, supported his career and made his home..if they were only married a couple of years and no kids then I'd say a prenups a prenup but after a 15 years and all of that...kinda changes the circumstances dont you think?

Also lets dispel this notion of a system "stacked against men" as if it came out of the blue... who designed the system? WHo created the courts and laws that favor women?

This is similar to how whites talk about affirmative action and social justice and how some truly beleive its shit stacked against them in favor of minorities. As if there isnt a history of actions and events that created the issue in the first place. And who enacted AA in the first place? WHITE PEOPLE...why? as a response to all the shit they created in the 2nd place. Blacks are just in the middle trying to survive and yet theres a REAL belief that blacks somehow control how these things go.

Well who decided that the role of home maker is best suited for women? Who decided that you cant bring a woman up to a certain level of living and then leave her unable to maintain it? Who said between the mother and father the mother is the best option for caregiver of offspring and created laws to support that?? I'll give you a hint..it wasnt women since they couldn't be judges and lawyers at the time this was handed down.

So lets drop this conspiracy theory that there a cabal of women who are plotting to undermine men and creating laws for that.

Also I hold men to a higher standard because arent we supposed to be the leader and head of the house?
 
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Put everything you own in a Trust , even your paycheck
Put things you want protected and passes down into a trust; married or not. If you inherit a home, heirlooms, your Mickey Mantel baseball card and your Michael Vick jersey into a trust. Even if you own your home and might wanna marry some day; move that shit out of your name. Only get married unless you’ve always wanted kids or marriage. Don’t do it because you’ve been with em a while. Make sure you WANT to, not HAVE to or SHOULD.
 

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that last sentence tho........"While Ruben Studdard walked away with all of thee money he earned during the marriage and not having to pay any spousal support, McCants got to keep her wedding dress, a 2006 BMW that Studdard must finish paying for, ten thousand dollars in a property settlement, a two thousand dollars for attorney fees, and some photo albums. Basically, Surata McCants is leaving her marriage dead broke and naked."
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According to court documents released after the final judgment was made, Studdard was not required to pay McCants any spousal support or alimony. And, because the two shared no children of their own, child support did not come into play. In addition, Studdard was allowed to keep their home and all of his belongings, including his jewelry, pensions, royalties, clothing, and every bit of his cash.

McCants even had to return her engagement ring!

Read More: https://www.thelist.com/448130/the-truth-about-ruben-studdards-divorce/
 

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you are aware that up until some 50 years ago...for various reasons it was difficult and stigmatizing for women to divorce their husbands. Hell up until 50 years ago in western culture a man could sexually assault his wife and it wasn't called rape.

So yeah..when all of that shit changed women were like "I dont have to put up with this bullshit anymore!" So that stat is not shocking given the history of marriage in the US and western culture for the last couple 100 years at least.

I'm not saying that women cant be devious. But in this situation they were married for over a decade so unless shes been playing some kind of long ass con that includes kids and playing the good wife for damn near 2 decades... I'd say that theyre break up has probably more to with some genuine issues in their relationship than some kind of foul scheme.

As far as demanding 250 a month... she had his kids, supported his career and made his home..if they were only married a couple of years and no kids then I'd say a prenups a prenup but after a 15 years and all of that...kinda changes the circumstances dont you think?

Also lets dispel this notion of a system "stacked against men" as if it came out of the blue... who designed the system? WHo created the courts and laws that favor women?

This is similar to how whites talk about affirmative action and social justice and how some truly beleive its shit stacked against them in favor of minorities. As if there isnt a history of actions and events that created the issue in the first place. And who enacted AA in the first place? WHITE PEOPLE...why? as a response to all the shit they created in the 2nd place. Blacks are just in the middle trying to survive and yet theres a REAL belief that blacks somehow control how these things go.

Well who decided that the role of home maker is best suited for women? Who decided that you cant bring a woman up to a certain level of living and then leave her unable to maintain it? Who said between the mother and father the mother is the best option for caregiver of offspring and created laws to support that?? I'll give you a hint..it wasnt women since they couldn't be judges and lawyers at the time this was handed down.

So lets drop this conspiracy theory that there a cabal of women who are plotting to undermine men and creating laws for that.

Also I hold men to a higher standard because arent we supposed to be the leader and head of the house?
Bro, I appreciate your perspective, but vehemently disagree. You were just touting vows but now women don't have to put up with a man's shit anymore because of how marriages were 50 years ago..? My dad is 88 and my mom is 76 and still married. I grew up in a nuclear family. There were families that stuck together and your statement gives the impression that the majority of women were oppressed in their marriage. You have no data or experience to support this outside of using it to support the point you are trying to make.

Again, I have to point out that you consistently are pointing the finger on men being the villain. Considering, this thread is about Kevin Costner, can you confirm what he did to contribute to his wife's irreconcilable differences claim outside of what appears to be skewed assumptions?

Simple and plain, and I'll stop the back and forth after this, but you cannot lead someone who doesn't want to be led. You cannot protect someone who will not listen. We are only in control of our actions.

Edit - I had to add that in my opinion under no circumstance should someone deserve 250k per month especially when they initiate the divorce for "irreconcilable differences". It's a money grab and you know it. Kids or not.
 
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Bro, I appreciate your perspective, but vehemently disagree. You were just touting vows but now women don't have to put up with a man's shit anymore because of how marriages were 50 years ago..? My dad is 88 and my mom is 76 and still married. I grew up in a nuclear family. There were families that stuck together and your statement gives the impression that the majority of women were oppressed in their marriage. You have no data or experience to support this outside of using it to support the point you are trying to make.

Again, I have to point out that you consistently are pointing the finger on men being the villain. Considering, this thread is about Kevin Costner, can you confirm what he did to contribute to his wife's irreconcilable differences claim outside of what appears to be skewed assumptions?

Simple and plain, and I'll stop the back and forth after this, but you cannot lead someone who doesn't want to be led. You cannot protect someone who will not listen. We are only on control of our actions.

Edit - I had to add that on my opinion under no circumstance should someone deserve 250k per month especially when they initiate the divorce for "irreconcilable differences". It's a money grab and you know it. Kids or not.
100 years ago women couldnt have bank accounts or jobs this is historical fact. Are you seriously saying women weren't oppressed 100-150 years ago? You use your parents (personal anecdote) as proof of what? That the majority of marriages were fair and balanced? Dude there were free, educated and well to do black people in the 1800s and early 1900s does that mean blacks as a whole weren't oppressed in American society during that time?

And before you say "Nigga, are you equating marriage to slavery??" Arent you all??

- There is no protection for us out here.
- There’s no incentive to marry a woman in America. Legally. Period. Don’t do it son. You will be sorry.
- And it's our fault. I always preach men do not stick together.
- Probably tons of unhappy men in marriages, ESPECIALLY in Cali.


you guys sound like a bunch of Admiral Ackbars
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A family source told PEOPLE that while the Costner "knew" Baumgartner was "unhappy," her divorce filing came as an "unpleasant surprise." The insider noted that the actor's demanding work schedule was difficult for his estranged wife prior to her divorce filing.

"Christine wants them to spend family time at their Santa Barbara home," the source said. "During filming, Kevin is not around very much. His absence has been very hard for her."

According to the source, "Christine doesn't want him to throw himself into another project. He has been obsessed with filming Horizon since last year. She wasn't happy about it."

A separate entertainment source told PEOPLE that "at times, his career has taken precedence over his home life" and "hasn't been home very much for quite some time due to filming," referencing Yellowstone and the time necessary for his other projects.


"All of this success and excitement over the new project probably took his attention away from his family more than he realized. Since it didn't look like that would change and likely could get worse, it caused tension at home," the entertainment source added.


You all know this is Kevin Costners 2nd divorce... with cheating allegations with him that cost him 80 million after the first marriage crumbled

In November 1994, Costner's then wife, Cindy Silva, filed for divorce after 16 years of marriage. The couple met while they were both students at California State University - Fullerton

The couple were married for 16 years at the apex of Costner's career and share three children together. The demise of their relationship resulted in one of the most expensive celebrity divorces of all time, rife with rumors of Costner's infidelity.


Are you saying both these women schemed to get Costner's pockets?? It was all an elaborate set up??

And you know what never did answer your post on the first page


See article - He tried to protect himself based on his past experience and he still has men trying to justify this woman's greed... Smh
That past experience was his own fault tho right...

Though Cindy stuck by her husband through the increasingly frequent rumors of infidelity, she eventually conceded that their relationship had reached a tipping point when rumors of Costner’s affair with a stunning hula dancer while filming the 1995 apocalyptic film Waterworld hit the headlines. The then 38-year-old filed for divorce soon afterward. By the time the divorce was finalized, Cindy Silva had slashed the critically acclaimed actor’s net worth by a staggering $80 million. The couple also had to divide their vast assets, which placed the true cost of the divorce much higher than $80 million.

So he very possibly cheated on her on more than one occasion and all that side pussy cost him 80 million. Was it worth it???

Kevin Costner's been acting since 1981. He got married to this woman in 2004. He was an actor for a long time before they got married. This notion of time you are referring to is nonsense given the situation and is an excuse a woman would use to justify the irrational notion that she deserves to be live a life of opulence on this man's dime after making the decision to leave him.

Your notion of a present husband is absurd in this situation given the industry, profession and people we are talking about. There are many professions where either party may not be as available as people would like but they make it work. With far less to lose at that.

But costners not a struggling actor trying make ends meet. At some point you have to start to prioritize family. Especially when you have a position and stature were you can do that. (again see Tom Brady)
If she is dissatisfied, leave. But don't think it's his responsibility to keep you in the lap of luxury on his dime when it was your decision to go. Especially after a prenup.

If she wants a man to give her more time fine, then get one that does that. If he has time, he likely doesn't have money and it looks like she wants her cake and to eat it too. Nah.. pick one. Your touting life oaths, but where is that smoke for her? How is she keeping the "oath"?

She is simply taking advantage of the situation given the fact that these systems tend to side with the woman. I for one hope she loses gets that million she agreed to and goes to find what she is looking for. This is nothing but a greedy and manipulative woman who is trying to benefit off the hard work of that man.

I'm not taking anything away from her sacrifice but a million out the deal that she agreed to is more than enough for her to get her feet under her and to find her next sucker. So you believe what she is asking for is fair or warranted in any way?
Whats going with them is personal...neither one of us knows the true details but I'm pushing back against the general attitude around the board that marriage is some sort of scheme against men. My contention is know what youre getting into and understand how serious it is and you wont lose half your shit.

Don't believe me...ask your parents...they did it the right way.
 
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Also, two things automatically break aaaaaaaany prenupt: physical and sexual abuse. If she can convince them you’re abusive, manipulate or molested or beat the kids; you are fucked. Now since she’s shown (false or not) that you groomed the kids for sex or manipulated her she can say she signed the prenupt under duress. You were such a charmer and manipulator that she couldn’t think straight when she signed it. That’s why a lot of divorced men are on the sexual predator list. And you will most likely lose if you wife a chick with a daughter. That daughter loves her momma and her real daddy; so she can lie and say you touched her, but didn’t penetrate or whatever then you-are-fucked. If you’re a molester; that stigma stays with you forever. Stop dating or marrying women with young daughters—that’s the first trick they use to break prenupts. She can tell her daughter you have an uncircumcised penis, crooked or it has a mole on it and once she tells the judge that, your ass is in hot water! Imagine you think shit is sweet but she planning to leave you, and she hates or never loved you. She could ask you for a dick pic, you send it. She can then take your phone if you trust her enough to have the code, and send that dick pic to her daughters phone, sit and wait. How can you prove you never sent her daughter that dick pic??? That lawyer told me shit that made me cringe.
 

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Also, two things automatically break aaaaaaaany prenupt: physical and sexual abuse. If she can convince them you’re abusive, manipulate or molested or beat the kids; you are fucked. Now since she’s shown (false or not) that you groomed the kids for sex or manipulated her she can say she signed the prenupt under duress. You were such a charmer and manipulator that she couldn’t think straight when she signed it. That’s why a lot of divorced men are on the sexual predator list. And you will most likely lose if you wife a chick with a daughter. That daughter loves her momma and her real daddy; so she can lie and say you touched her, but didn’t penetrate or whatever then you-are-fucked. If you’re a molester; that stigma stays with you forever. Stop dating or marrying women with young daughters—that’s the first trick they use to break prenupts. She can tell her daughter you have an uncircumcised penis, crooked or it has a mole on it and once she tells the judge that, your ass is in hot water! Imagine you think shit is sweet but she planning to leave you, and she hates or never loved you. She could ask you for a dick pic, you send it. She can then take your phone if you trust her enough to have the code, and send that dick pic to her daughters phone, sit and wait. How can you prove you never sent her daughter that dick pic??? That lawyer told me shit that made me cringe.
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