"Lil Wayne Is The Greatest Rapper Of All Time" -KRS-1
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Lord Vicious
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Not true. That title definitely goes to LL Cool J:
Lil Wayne makes LL Cool J look like Rakim, Tupac and Biggie rolled into one...
Fuck, he makes Lady Gaga look like Nas...
And don't forget Rakim saying Rick Ross was bringing lyrics and skill back... We are now forced to deal with a generation of senile rappers.
He was being sarcastic...
A fair statement to be sure.
But then is Rakim just a rapper and Soulja Boy an emcee?
Thats what I got out of it too.
He knows better.
Not that it wasnt still sacrilegious but cmon yall gotta admit thats some funny shit to hear from a bonafide great.
No. Rakim is a Rapper/Emcee and Soulja Boy is a Rapper/Emcee
An Emcees is not all about Lyrics. I can name a bunch of Emcees that werent Lyrical Wordsmith that knew how to Rock the Crowd. A Dope Rapper/Emcee is all about Rocking or Moving their Audience. Originally
Rap is the verb, Emcee is the Noun...
As time went on Rap morphed into the Noun Rapper and Emcee Morphed into the verb Emceeing.
Then came Lyricist... All of this was before 1980.
Around 1995, White Boys started catching Nostalgia and wanted to learn more about Old School Hip Hop and winded up re-defining shit that already was defined.
You know how some people think HIP HOP is a type of Music and not the Name of our Culture? It's like that.
daamn krs1 finally
Bushwick pointed this out
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/gangsta
Main Entry: gangsta rap
Function: noun
Date: 1990
: rap music with lyrics explicitly portraying the violence and drug use of urban gang life and typically expressing hostility toward whites, women, and civil authority
— gangsta rapper noun
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/ebonics
Main Entry: Ebon·ics
Pronunciation: \ē-ˈbä-niks, i-, e-\
Function: noun plural but singular in construction
Etymology: blend of ebony and phonics
Date: 1973
: black english
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/black+english
Main Entry: Black English
Function: noun
Date: 1968
: a nonstandard variety of English spoken by some African-Americans —called also Black English vernacular
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/gangsta
Main Entry: gangsta rap
Function: noun
Date: 1990
: rap music with lyrics explicitly portraying the violence and drug use of urban gang life and typically expressing hostility toward whites, women, and civil authority
— gangsta rapper noun
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/ebonics
Main Entry: Ebon·ics
Pronunciation: \ē-ˈbä-niks, i-, e-\
Function: noun plural but singular in construction
Etymology: blend of ebony and phonics
Date: 1973
: black english
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/black+english
Main Entry: Black English
Function: noun
Date: 1968
: a nonstandard variety of English spoken by some African-Americans —called also Black English vernacular
How in the fuck can you type Rakim and Soulja Boy on the same goddamn keyboard. Soulja Boy been out six days with one so so hit. Rakim is a legend. There really need to add a bullshit moderator in this board. Damn ya'll don't shit about rap or hip hop. Silly sons of bitches
so krs gives wayne props and dudes still find a way to hate? only on bgol
Exactly.
It's clear y'all take this shit WAY too seriously.
He don't believe Wayne is the GOAT and he wasn't mocking him, this is just a case a camera being in his face and KRS having nothing better to say.
LOL @ niccas in disbelief talking bout KRS was dissing him to his face but it went over his head...y'all just wanna believe that shit.
Is it me or does Wayne seem high as a kite?
c/s end of thread
I'll be damn...
that nigga said it because it's true . who you like 50 ?That nigga only said it cuz he was right there...
KRS don't believe that shit
Nigga... did you just say a fork tongued bullshitter? Fuck is wrong wit chu fam?
Quote of the fuckin week right there.
oNE
How in the fuck can you type Rakim and Soulja Boy on the same goddamn keyboard. Soulja Boy been out six days with one so so hit. Rakim is a legend. There really need to add a bullshit moderator in this board. Damn ya'll don't shit about rap or hip hop. Silly sons of bitches
If you look up, you will see that Lesane Crooks brought those 2 names into the equation. And you presented a Red Herring.
The Question wasn't WHO IS A LEGEND and WHO AIN'T A LEGEND.
RAP is ONE of Many Musical forms that evolved in HIPHOP CULTURE
HIPHOP is the name of the CULTURE as a WHOLE
For the Record, THE REAL ROXANNE didn't write her own RHYMES
Jay best since Biggie died. krs-1 is promoting his little hiphop temple. He was talking reckless about the current President like a fool.
fuck that huge nosed raggedy mouthed mothafucka now!!!!!!!
Id smash brandi rawski
I guess that was KRS-1's attempt at sarcasm ...
ok im losing respect for krs 1 cause if lil wayne is the greatest rapper of all time his his azz is coming down with altimers lol 
Just the other day I was thinking, where is Bushwick Bill when we really need him!
Good to see him...Biggest Little Muthafucka I know.,..
Good to see him...Biggest Little Muthafucka I know.,..
I conkur
As much as I like KRS-ONE, to say that Lil Wayne is the greatest rapper of all time is absurd.
He was saying it just so Wayne could turn around and say "KRS is the greatest rapper of all time".
No
And this nigga isn't the best rapper alive cuz. Graduate from high school & expand your ear drums my dude.
I don't want to debate with you on this but...
Emcee and Rapper are two totally different things...
One is for the love while the other is for the money
Emcees read and controls the crowd (your first DJs were Emcees (Grand Master Flash and Afrika Bambaataa) before the rapping side came in.)
With or without music an Emcee can move the crowd.
Only with music a rapper can get the crowd to move.
An Emcee has talent
A Rapper just sounds good
An Emcee has to have meaning and/or lyrics
A Rapper just puts words together that sounds like they rhyme
This is also not totally correct.
RAP was not a verb it was and is a noun. It's actually R.A.P. which stands for RHYTHM AND POETRY...a category of music. Rapping was a verb and is a verb. It's what the streets called slick talk of game back in the day. If you were shooting game at a girl it was called your rap. If you didn't have rap then you had no game.
The terminology of emceeing before it was called emceeing was rhyming. But it got confused because rappers rhyme too. So to not be confused with a rapper...emcees had to say something and be lyrical. This dates back to the Last Poets.
Rappers are commercial...they don't have to make sense, all they have to do is make cents. Rappers have no code of honor (meaning they break all rules of emceeing)
An Emcee don't bite (still someone else's style or lyrics or punchlines and at as if they originated it).
An Emcee don't recite someone else's rhyme and plays it off as if it's their own (meaning having someone ghost write for you).
An Emcee's style is them in essence not something made up to sell.
An Emcee heart and soul is in whatever they recite about
An Emcee's words (rhyme/poetry) has meaning and depth whether the words are simplistic or complicated.
An Emcee don't need a look to be marketable just the talent to make their listeners listen.
An Emcee can bend and chop words to fit
An Emcee's playgrounds are cyphers
An Emcee masters wordplay an executes it with ease
A Rapper doesn't have to have meaning in their lyrics, just sound good saying whatever they're saying.
A Rapper doesn't have to write their own rhymes, just say them like they wrote it
A Rapper has to have look/image (gimmick) in order to be marketable.
A Rapper has no shame in copying someone's sound, style, punchlines, and/or whole idea.
If a Rapper has something to say then it's a plus
A Rapper tries to rhyme words together as best as possible
A Rapper's playground is the studio
A Rapper mimicks an Emcee's wordplay and sounds like they're trying (it's not with ease and effortless).
To further this statement...look at these artists
Emcees
Rakim, KRS One, Kool G Rap, Slick Rick, Kool Moe Dee, Redman, EPMD, Jungle Brothers, Poor Righteous Teachers, Queen Latifah, Monie Love, Tung Twista, Special Ed, Dana Dane, Heavy D, Tupac, Biggie, Biz Markie, Shan, DMX, M.O.P., Run DMC, Whodini, Lyte, Illegal (Jamal & Malik), Naughty By Nature, Nas, AZ, Big L, Lord Finesse, Ice Cube, DOC, Snoop Dogg, Big Pun, Eminem, Canibus, Serch from 3rd Base, Public Enemy, etc...
Rappers
LL Cool J, Kriss Kross, Antionette, Foxy Brown, Dr. Dre, Puffy, Lil Wanye, Kwame, and there's more...
Emcees who became Rappers
Salt N Pepa, Kid N Play, Big Daddy Kane, Jay-Z...there's more
Rappers were considered Sucker/Wack Emcees by Emcees, and this dates back before the backpack era. You must understand that the backpack era was the early 90s and that was considered the new school. The backpack era were dancers who were becoming Emcees (then other underground Emcees followed).
Backpack Emcees
Redhead Kingpin, The Pharcyde, Souls of Mischief, Leaders of the New School, A Tribe Called Quest, Jaru The Damaja, Mos Def, Del Tha Funky Homosapien, Da Bush Babees, Black Moon, Fu-Schnickens, UMC, KMD, and more...
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