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HBO Cancels Lovecraft Country After One Season
By Rebecca Alter@ralter

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It turns out the real metaphysical space-monster was premium cable’s grueling cancellation cycle, all along. On Friday, Deadline reported that HBO will not be renewing Misha Green’s sprawling genre piece Lovecreaft Country for a second season. The series starred Jonathan Majors and Jurnee Smollett as travelers in segregated midcentury America facing a multitude of horrors, from the homegrown homicidal racist variety and the extraterrestrial-magical variety. Deadline noted that after the series premiered in August of 2020, it set the record for the most-watched new episode of an original series on HBO Max. While Season 1 of Lovecraft Country was based on Matt Ruff’s 2016 fantasy-horror novel of the same name, Season 2 would have seen creator Misha Green carving out a new direction to continue the story.
After news of the cancellation broke on July 2, Green shared an image from the production bible for the show’s second season, which according to her tweet, would have been called Lovecraft Country: Supremacy. Green’s vision for the second season took place in a new country grafted onto a map of the United States, called the “Sovereign States of America.” The map is divided into the “Tribal Nations of the West” spanning from Michigan to California, the “Whitelands” stretching roughly through the Rust Belt down to El Paso, the “New Negro Republic” situated in the South, and the “Jefferson Commonwealth” in the Northeast. It calls to mind the post-American dystopias of The Hunger Games or The Handmaid’s Tale, but with a focus on the nation’s history of white supremacist racial violence, Confederates, and segregation.

Deadline reported that the dystopian map was just one section of “a more than 75-page Bible that was created for a second season of Lovecraft Country,” which we now won’t get to see. Or at least not on HBO, anyway.



^^^^^

and I bolded that part for all those saying they did not have enough source material for a second season.
Which is why I need another POV.....was there a deadline for the outline/proposal? Did they have to write the first episode? Was it too controversial? Or did they just run out of gas?

.... Big Little Lies ran into the same situation with no source material, but this had a bigger following by the end of the season......

There had to be a reason that I'm not seeing
 

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I liked the show. It’s all politics and racial nonsense. I read the article as they try to explain why they chose not to move forward with a 2nd season. But basically it was a very successful Sifi show that was led by a strong Black cast and the network just decided to stall it for obvious reasons
 

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I never finished watching the leftovers.

Loved that book and I just never got to peeps the second season.

I was also still mad at lindelhoff for the LOST ending

That's next in my list.

2nd season was interesting and started the first episode by solely focusing on a Black family with Regina King as the Mom, Kevin Carroll as the Dad (Kermit from Paid in full) and Teenaged fraternal twin kids. They were located in Texas and the Garvey family migrated down there and moved next door to them and their relationship was one of the main focuses of the season.
 
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Right now Hollywood needs black creators Because white Hollywood ran out of ideas you can see that with all of the reboots they are doing
This right here. But the problem is in order to get the shows made we have to run to the white people for funding

I've been saying this for a while, but I need to get busy writing. There are so many ideas, new and fresh ideas that can be made into Series just with common sense genius new writing.

Just me alone, I've written a story about witches, an alternative Bin Laden story and more. These are just short stories that could be fleshed out.

Unfortunately, Hollywood is hell-bent on rebooting any and everything because even if it's unsuccessful it has a fan base that means it is partially successful versus when you have something new they don't know whether it's going to be successful or not
 

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Good.

As I've stated om previous posts,
It was a GREAT Book that was very badly adapted.
It was essentially "The Misha Green/Black Girl Magic Show" with elements of the book thrown in.
And since Matt Ruff never intended to create a book series,
One season of the show said enough.

At least "WATCHMEN" respected its source material.
Which is what made that show so great.

Sometimes one season is all a show needs to make its creative point.
But when it's bad...
when i learned about the source material i was like why they change it up?
 

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Yeah hopefully HBO will invest in another good show

I was really looking forward to seeing Cynthia in The Outsider season 2.....

Watchmen, The Outsider, Lovecraft Country.......that seems like a lot of time and money invested in 1 and done seasons....but maybe they made it profitable.....hell there were nominations for all 3 so ppl watched.

I don't know shit about TV production.....maybe this is the new wave. And if the show is decent enough sell.the rights to Netflix/ Hulu to continue the story.
 

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This right here. But the problem is in order to get the shows made we have to run to the white people for funding

I've been saying this for a while, but I need to get busy writing. There are so many ideas, new and fresh ideas that can be made into Series just with common sense genius new writing.

Just me alone, I've written a story about witches, an alternative Bin Laden story and more. These are just short stories that could be fleshed out.

Unfortunately, Hollywood is hell-bent on rebooting any and everything because even if it's unsuccessful it has a fan base that means it is partially successful versus when you have something new they don't know whether it's going to be successful or not
I am sick of these reboots and most of the time these reboots are horrible this is why my TV watching has dropped big time. I hate paying for cable and I refuse to spend any extra money on a channel that water down content that I like….Hell the only reason why I put up with cable is because of the Internet service.
 

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This right here. But the problem is in order to get the shows made we have to run to the white people for funding

I've been saying this for a while, but I need to get busy writing. There are so many ideas, new and fresh ideas that can be made into Series just with common sense genius new writing.

Just me alone, I've written a story about witches, an alternative Bin Laden story and more. These are just short stories that could be fleshed out.

Unfortunately, Hollywood is hell-bent on rebooting any and everything because even if it's unsuccessful it has a fan base that means it is partially successful versus when you have something new they don't know whether it's going to be successful or not

From what I keep hearing it's really mostly about IP

they want to own their own.

Which I understand

Also I think creatives are for the most part at least in a greater number than 25 years ago are MORE EDUCATED and aware of the business side especially when it comes to ownership .

You gotta respect how Blumhouse found a lane and just dominated it. We probably nearing the end of its height but he already showed that there is always a way to be creative low budget and profitable.

And secondly...

I can't ALWAYS blame the studio executives for EVERYTHING

If they audience don't like it?

Don't support?

Wtf they supposed to do?

We seen MANY MANY big budget hugely promoted flops.

And some were damn good movies.

Just maybe bad timing, bad weather, a controversy, etc etc.

It's crazy.

All I'm saying the audience bears a whole lot responsibility for the trash we see too.
 

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damn i had a feeling this wasn't coming back

but not for those reasons

that second season scared the hell outta HBO ..

i keep hearing this

and I aint saying you wrong

but you SEEN Watchmen?

No one and I mean NO ONE expected that

that series actually effected future LEGISLATION and EDUCATION in this country.

I can't just dismiss HBO after that and the FIRST SEASON of Lovecraft.

I aint into giving passes no more

but I feel HBO earned a little bit of the benefit of the doubt at least for the short term.
 

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i keep hearing this

and I aint saying you wrong

but you SEEN Watchmen?

No one and I mean NO ONE expected that

that series actually effected future LEGISLATION and EDUCATION in this country.

I can't just dismiss HBO after that and the FIRST SEASON of Lovecraft.

I aint into giving passes no more

but I feel HBO earned a little bit of the benefit of the doubt at least for the short term.

You saying all this hoopla over CRT is partially due to Watchmen?
 

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This Map and her concept probably scared the shit outta them.

Lol @ "The whitelands" being overrun by zombies

really interested to see how that concept would've been executed
Where did you get the Whitelands get overrun with Zombies? Was that mentioned in the first season?
 

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2nd season was interesting and started the first episode by solely focusing on a Black family with Regina King as the Mom, Kevin Carroll as the Dad (Kermit from Paid in full) and Teenaged fraternal twin kids. They were located in Texas and the Garvey family migrated down there and moved next door to them and their relationship was one of the main focuses of the season.

I hated the "big reveal" the Garveys and black family had every right to be pissed an try to burn down those mute mfkrs...... I couldn't believe that's what they came up with...but ah well season 1 and were good, 3 was......eeeehh
 

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You saying all this hoopla over CRT is partially due to Watchmen?

I'm saying go back and look at the articles, trending topics, podcasts, YouTube videos and social media posts after that first episode aired

You can use the discussion thread here as a guide.

Go look at the time-line and what was going on in our country when that series really started to connect.

And to a lesser extent Lovecraft.

Then look at PRIOR.

What was the size and tenor of the discussion about Tulsa, Black Wall Street and Critical Race Theory?

Then you can tell me what you believe the answer to that question is.
 

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I hadn't paid for HBO in years but bought HBO Max expressly for this show when it started. I hope another streaming service/network picks it up for Season 2. It was smart, engaging and -- except for the white characters -- VERY well-acted...Even a person who's not into sci-fi written in homage to (or in the style of) H.P. Lovecraft could get into the story lines, especially when it delved into the Tulsa massacre and the murder of Emmett Till. I don't understand the people who didn't like it, but whatever.
 

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Lovecraft Country creator shares season 2 plans after canceled show gets 14 Emmy nominations

"Just going to leave this right here," Misha Green teases plot details and a rough outline for season 2 after the TV Academy honored the canceled series with major Emmys love.
By Joey Nolfi
July 14, 2021 at 09:22 AM EDT



Lovecraft Country might be canceled, but, in the wake of the short-lived HBO series' 14 Emmy nominations, showrunner Misha Green teased where the show might've gone if enough viewers had stuck around for the ride.

"Just going to leave this right here," Green tweeted Tuesday alongside an image of a rough season 2 outline, which indicated plans for 10 more episodes as well as a section for "season three and beyond."





After the show was canceled by HBO in early July, Green revealed that season 2 would've been dubbed Lovecraft Country: Supremacy.
"[It] begins in a new world, and that new world is a country that sits where The United States used to sit," the Underground creator tweeted, referencing the Sovereign States of America as she also shared a map of a divided United States, including new areas for "Tribal Nations of the West," the "Whitelands," the "New Negro Republic," and the "Jefferson Commonwealth."




Season 1 of Lovecraft Country drew inspiration from the horror-drama novel of the same name by Matt Ruff, which follows Atticus Freeman (Jonathan Majors) as he travels through 1950s Jim Crow America with his friend, Letitia (Jurnee Smollett), and his uncle George (Courtney B. Vance), with the group fending off monsters of both the human and supernatural kind while searching for Freeman's missing father. The season earned critical raves ahead of its 14 Emmy nominations, including notices for Outstanding Drama Series, four acting nods, and recognition for Green's writing.
Following Lovecraft Country's cancellation, The Hollywood Reporter indicated that Green — who's also attached to write and direct the upcoming Tomb Raider movie sequel — inked a major overall deal with Apple, leading fans to call for Lovecraft Country's continuation on the Apple TV+ streaming service.


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Elsewhere, Smollett celebrated her Emmy nomination for season 1 on Tuesday by praising Green's contributions to the program.

"I am in complete shock but feel incredibly humbled and am so grateful for this nomination!" she said. "I'm tremendously thankful that the show and my amazing cast members were recognized for our work and Misha Green's fearless storytelling. I feel like I'm living my ancestors' wildest dreams. It's such an honor."
 

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Jonathan Majors reflects on his post-cancellation Emmy nomination for Lovecraft Country

By Chancellor Agard
August 27, 2021 at 10:00 AM EDT


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For Jonathan Majors, receiving an Emmy nomination for his turn as Atticus Freeman on Lovecraft Country was the weird cherry on top of an already odd situation.
See, the 31-year-old actor has been living in a state of limbo with the supernatural HBO drama, which followed Atticus and his family as they fought both real and imagined monsters in the 1950s. The season 1 finale, which aired in October, ended with Atticus' death, and while Majors had made peace with it, he still spent the proceeding months waiting to find out if he would be back in a potential second season. Unfortunately, those hopes were dashed in early July when news broke that the network passed on renewing the Misha Green-produced show. Thus, Majors believed his Lovecraft journey was truly over. But then, almost two weeks later, he was nominated for Outstanding Lead Actor in a Drama Series, which was one of 14 nods the show earned.

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"By the time I got to metabolize the end of it, this happens," said Majors in an interview with EW a day after his surprise appearance on Disney+'s Loki. "When I got word [of the nomination], it was like, 'Can that even happen?'"
Below, Majors opens up about his Emmy nod and looks back on his Lovecraft journey.
Jonathan Majors on 'Lovecraft Country'

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ENTERTAINMENT WEEKLY: How did it feel to get nominated after learning Lovecraft Country was canceled?
JONATHAN MAJORS:
I was in a strange situation because I had no assurance that Atticus was even going to be in a potential season 2. I had made peace with not being with my Lovecraft family again. [So being nominated] is a Lovecraft-ian situation, to be living two realms with it. But all in all, I'm most excited the work is being seen and appreciated and honored with the nominations, not just mine but everyone else's.

Misha shared a photo of the bible for season 2, which listed Atticus. Had there been any discussions about you returning in a potential season 2?
There's always chat. There were iterations of the end of the first season, in which the tag was Atticus coming back [to life]. [But] we changed that. For me, that was heartbreaking. And then, so I've metabolized this, the ending, the death of Atticus, a few times. We [also] had a chat over dinner once — actually me, her, and Jurnee [Smollett] — and it was a bit of a what-if situation, but none of the details were really discussed. But yeah, of course, there were whispers here and there on both ends, so I kind of stayed in limbo with it.
Did you actually shoot that tag or was that just a draft?
It was a draft. The first draft that I got, it was there. And then when we came back in, well, you get rewrites, and there weren't many rewrites, except for that tag was not there. So I was like, "Oh s---."
Courtney B. Vance, Jurnee Smollett, and Jonathan Majors on HBO's 'Lovecraft Country'

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When you look back on season 1, what are you most proud of?
Artistically, [learning] what my instrument [can] do when you have to perform in these very high-stakes situations and then grounding all of that in the day-to-day. Lovecraft Country was the greatest jungle gym for my imagination — and for my approach to the craft of acting — that I think I've ever experienced. Lovecraft Country really gave me the confidence and ability to kind of move forward in the industry.
For you, what was the key to grounding Atticus amid all of the supernatural chaos he was facing?
The things I latched on to were Courtney B. Vance, Jurnee Smollett, Jada [Harris], Aunjanue Ellis, Abbey Lee, Jamie Chung, and Wunmi Mosaku. That's how you lead an ensemble. You have to pay attention to the people you're with, and they ground you. And then there's the element of, "Okay, what am I here to do?" With every character, you have an opportunity to show, to tell a secret. What was the secret I was trying to tell with Atticus? What is a hero? That's [what] I was wrestling with.
I think my super objective for Atticus was, here is a flesh and blood human being that loves, hurts, fights, and has so much nobility and dignity and rage and love inside of him. And he is a Black man. He is living in this Americanized patriarchal world and is capable of surviving and thriving in it. And that gives hope, Atticus is hope. Atticus is a character that we meet in the dark, and he moves all the way through it and becomes completely reborn, multiple times throughout the series.
Which episode are you thinking about submitting for the award consideration?
I really love episode 6, but I love it for me. Atticus is one of my best friends, and I love it for the part of him I get to see in that. And yet, I think the pilot might be the place to go. But then there's episode 2, which has one of the most heartbreaking parts of the whole series.
Why were you waffling between episodes 1 and 6?
I think in the pilot we see the beginnings of every element of Atticus. It's all there. And then the part that we don't get to really dive into throughout the rest of the piece is episode 6 because my take on it is as follows: No one knows Atticus, everybody knows Tic. So Tic is in episode 6. That's what we see. And so the audience and Uncle George and Aunt Hippolyta, they are now witnessing Atticus [in the pilot]. They still call them Tic, but this is Atticus. That's what he calls himself with the other woman at the bus station. "What's your name?" "Atticus." And that's like the birth of him. He's just starting this journey.
 

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Emmy Winner Courtney B. Vance Pays Tribute To ‘Lovecraft Country’s Michael K. Williams; Says HBO Show’s Cancellation “Doesn’t Make Sense”
By Antonia Blyth



On Sunday, Courtney B. Vance accepted his guest actor Emmy Award for Lovecraft Country, and took the opportunity to pay touching tribute to his recently passed co-star Michael K. Williams.

After thanking creator Misha Green, the show, his fellow nominees, fans and his wife and children, Vance said, “Finally to Michael K. Williams. Misha said it best. Michael did everything with his full heart open, with his infinite spirit and with way too much style. May he rest in power and let us all honor his immense legacy by being a little more love forward, a little more endless in thought and a little more swaggy in act.”



Speaking backstage after his win, Vance said,

“I love him. We recently met for the first time. I’ve been following him and he’s been following me for a number of years. We met at an event in New Jersey about two and-a-half, three years ago. We were just overjoyed to share the dame dias and couldn’t wait to get offstage so we could hug and just say how much we loved each other. And the idea that shortly after that we would be playing brothers in Lovecraft Country. This is his. We were brothers. I died in the series and we said goodbye to each other, so it’s just too painful to really think about so I just honor him everywhere and every way I can.”



Vance is not the first to pay tribute while accepting an Emmy for this show. On Saturday, during the first Creative Arts Emmy ceremony, leading Sound Supervisor Tim Kimmel honored Williams in his acceptance speech.

Williams, perhaps best known for his role of Omar on The Wire, died September 6 in Brooklyn. He was 54. Williams is up for a Supporting Actor Emmy this year was for his portrayal of Lovecraft Country‘s Montrose Freeman.

Vance’s win was so far the second for Lovecraft Country. It landed 18 nominations total, following its cancellation by HBO. Speaking about what the win meant to him, Vance said,

“I’m very, very happy and at the same time I’m very sad because of Michael and because we’re not still doing the show. In my mind and in my spirit it doesn’t make sense… I’m sad for audiences that we don’t get to see like Game of Thrones we don’t get to see seven years, eight years of following these characters and learning more about that time period and learning about our people and their struggles. And where Misha’s mind is going to go so that’s very painful for me as an actor.”



Despite being cancelled, Lovecraft made history by having Black nominees in every acting category. “I don’t understand it [the cancellation],” Vance continued. “it doesn’t make sense to fans and that’s all who matter. We set everyone up and then we don’t deliver for whatever reason. I’m tired of it…they can find a way to make a Game of Thrones, but not Lovecraft Country.”
 
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that white boy was focused as hell... I respect it.
 
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