Mandate All Law Enforcement to Tour the African American Museum

gene cisco

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What is this suppose to be part of their sensitivity training. :rolleyes:

How about some stiff punishments and heavy fines how about a conviction, how about JUSTICE!

It's a nice gesture but getting them to respect our humanity will take more than just trying to appeal to their sentiments. It's why we have law and order in the first place because appealing to sentiment is not enough.

You're right. If it wasn't for consequences, a lot more people would be doing a lot more fucked up shit. Humans seem to do fucked up shit by default. Give them power without consequences?!?!? Shit. That is just a recipe for corruption, and that's what we have seen and are seeing with these pigs.

It takes months to investigate a pig, and it takes days for a regular citizen to be arrested and charged. Police dogs have fucking protection. We need better hiring practices and severe consequences.
 

peterlongshort

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Most of these dudes don't see as as actual human beings, a mandated museum visit won't change shit. What WILL change shit is holding terrible cops accountable for their fuckery. Bottom line. It's not rocket science.
Everybody fill out an application. That will solve it. This other shit is just window dressing.
 

blackras9

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Most of these dudes don't see us as actual human beings, a mandated museum visit won't change shit. What WILL change shit is holding terrible cops accountable for their fuckery. Bottom line. It's not rocket science.
This is already happening. Every day we're seeing cops being arrested and sent to jail for shooting black folks for no reason. We're more represented in media than ever before with the range and variety we've long craved. Superheroes, Cops, Thugs, reporters, average joes, and everything in between can be found represented by black people across the board which is the first step to "normalizing" our image. Things ARE getting better despite the covers being ripped off the dark underbelly of policing thanks to cellphone video. The mandated tour would give all cops not just white bigoted ones the same sense of perspective and weight they give the jewish holocaust and would be the start of a snowball effect.
 

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This is already happening. Every day we're seeing cops being arrested and sent to jail for shooting black folks for no reason. We're more represented in media than ever before with the range and variety we've long craved. Superheroes, Cops, Thugs, reporters, average joes, and everything in between can be found represented by black people across the board which is the first step to "normalizing" our image. Things ARE getting better despite the covers being ripped off the dark underbelly of policing thanks to cellphone video. The mandated tour would give all cops not just white bigoted ones the same sense of perspective and weight they give the jewish holocaust and would be the start of a snowball effect.



Arrested


where is the jail part?

:confused:
 

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117 Countries Slam American Police Brutality At UN Human Rights Council



(Originally published May, 2015) In what could hardly be called a surprise, the UN Human Rights Council chastised the US over its epidemic of police violence, discrimination, needless killings, and general neglect, following through with recommendations made in its first review in 2010.

The Universal Periodic Review (UPR) takes place every four years to scrutinize the human and civil rights practices of each of the UN’s 193 member nations. Delegates from 117 countries took the opportunity to lambaste the US’ record of civil rights violations exacted by its brutal and racist police forces.

In an attempt to fend off the inevitable, James Cadogan, a senior counselor in the Department of Justice’s Human Rights Division, said the US must “rededicate ourselves to ensuring that our civil rights laws live up to their promise,” listing several “tragic deaths” that sparked numerous demonstrations and wide-scale unrest across the country. However, he seemed to be blind to the fundamental basis for such outrage saying the US wishes to“identify and address potential policing issues before they become systemic problems,”, even asserting a fictitious good record for holding violators accountable. As Mary McLeod, acting legal adviser to the US Dept of State, put it, “We’re proud of the work we’ve done since our last UPR.” Most would disagree.

What the US representatives touted as improvements, actually do more to highlight the systemic issue they claim to be on the lookout for. Cadogan cited 400 instances in the past six years in which charges were brought against law enforcement officials, but this doesn’t figure in the disproportionately light punishment that often results from prosecution of police officers. Even his own preemptive statement, naming Michael Brown and Eric Garner as examples, speaks far more to police impunity than accountability — and is hardly reflective of the totality of incidents.Over 400 people have been killed by police in 2015 alone.

“Chad considers the United States of America to be a country of freedom, but recent events targeting black sectors of society have tarnished its image,” said Awada Angui, the delegate from that country.

The representative from Namibia, Gladice Pickering, echoed the general consensus saying the US needs “to fix the broken justice system that continues to discriminate against [marginalized communities], despite recent waves of protest over racial profiling and police killings of unarmed black men.”

Critics across the board urged improvements in training methods and legislation and included goals to eliminate racism and end excessive force.


“I’m not surprised that the world’s eyes are focused on police issues in the US,” said Alba Morales of Human Rights Watch. “There is an international spotlight that’s been shone [on the issues], in large part due to the events in Ferguson and the disproportionate police response to even peaceful protesters.”

A federal investigation was launched on Friday to determine if police in Baltimore have instituted a pattern of discrimination following reports from residents of brutal abuse before and after Freddie Gray was killed in police custody. Such investigations are often too little, too late for victims and their families, who see them more akin to the cynical joke; “we investigated ourselves and found we did nothing wrong.”

Martinez Sutton, whose 22-year-old sister, Rekia Boyd, was shot by an off-duty Chicago police officer in 2012, observed from the sidelines. He feels that her killer’s acquittal three weeks ago is frustratingly typical: “I do not expect them to do anything because – I mean: Let us be real, it has been going on for years and what has been done? As I stated before, they say the guilty should be punished. I want them to show us instead of tell us. My sister was innocent, so why isn’t anybody paying for her death?”


The UN will issue its report on the review along with recommendations on Friday, though its contents probably won’t be of much consequence considering the US “largely failed” to implement any of the 171 changes suggested in the previous report.

There isn’t much comfort to be found in an atmosphere where calling the cops for assistance could potentially be your own death sentence. But if our own government doesn’t see a problem with its policing policies, at least 117 other countries around the world are starting to ask questions.


https://www.popularresistance.org/1...-police-brutality-at-un-human-rights-council/




Create a petition to do what?


See the part in red?
 

smoovejazz

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havent been myself, But Dr. Boyce Watkins said that it was heavy on sports and entertainment and not so much on substance...
:dunno:

Also haven't been (going in January), but many people I know have been, and they have said that it's not true...the upper floors have that, but the bottom floors do not. The museum has a lot of floors - it's not just the floors above ground. The museum's design is supposed to have you start from the basement (the beginning of our history), and finish at the top, where some of the sports and entertainment exhibits are. Perhaps Dr. Watkins only visited the upper floors. Also, I've been told that you really can't take it all in by going once - everybody's telling me it's gonna take at least two visits. Nevertheless, EVERYONE I know who has been there says that it's a great experience that you won't forget.
 

blackras9

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Arrested


where is the jail part?

:confused:

I will concede the sentencing is not as consistent as the arrests.

I'm well aware of the UN report condemning America's human rights abuses against us. The petition is to force the White House to respond and get people thinking about why the country's law enforcement SHOULD be aware of our history and not just have their views shaped by cultural conditioning. I'm not a believer in the idea that everyone has to be in front of a protest with a bullhorn to make a difference. Most of us have jobs, lives, kids, and not nearly enough charisma to do that anyway. This is something a regular man can do, in addition to harassing the fuck out of your local politicians to listen to you. Again, knowledge without action is useless. This is doing something. If its good enough for the FBI it should be good enough for all Law Enforcement. I refuse to accept that the local meathead should be held to lower standards of training simply because he or she works at the local level. They all have the authorization to kill with our tax dollars paying for the bullets and if this helps them think twice before pulling the trigger then that's what I'm going to do. You can disagree with me, I have no issues with that. But have an alternative plan of action or its just talk.
 

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I will concede the sentencing is not as consistent as the arrests.

I'm well aware of the UN report condemning America's human rights abuses against us. The petition is to force the White House to respond and get people thinking about why the country's law enforcement SHOULD be aware of our history and not just have their views shaped by cultural conditioning. I'm not a believer in the idea that everyone has to be in front of a protest with a bullhorn to make a difference. Most of us have jobs, lives, kids, and not nearly enough charisma to do that anyway. This is something a regular man can do, in addition to harassing the fuck out of your local politicians to listen to you. Again, knowledge without action is useless. This is doing something. If its good enough for the FBI it should be good enough for all Law Enforcement. I refuse to accept that the local meathead should be held to lower standards of training simply because he or she works at the local level. They all have the authorization to kill with our tax dollars paying for the bullets and if this helps them think twice before pulling the trigger then that's what I'm going to do. You can disagree with me, I have no issues with that. But have an alternative plan of action or its just talk.



only two things cacs respect

that is the only way

117 countries of the UN signed a petition and this petition is different how?

if you don't know cacs after 400 years of this fuckery too bad
 

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I told you!

We need to start killing.

The white man murdered the Indigenous Native American to extinction; the white man murdered the Tasmanian Aboriginee man to extinction.

But whenever the Black man says we need to start killing, it's "impractical."

That's bullshit.

We need to be smart; we need to start playing chess and use their own system against them; we need to obtain positions of power by any means necessary - even if it means being an undercover coon.

Can you imagine what it would be like if David A. Clarke was really a down ass brother who was just playing a coon the whole time and flipped the script?

We need to infiltrate: more Black Marine officers, more Black Air Force officers, more Black Army officers, more Black Navy officers, more Black men working in the legislative, executive, and judicial branches of the government. We start from the bottom up.

Then when we're ready, give them a dose of their own medicine.

Fuck a museum. We need power!

And none of that "we're better than them" bullshit.

That's the absolute dumbest thing a Black man can say. You live in a society that shits on you everyday. Oh, excuse me, but we're "better than them." STUPID!!!!

Smarten up!!!!
 
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blackras9

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I told you!

We need to start killing.

The white man murdered the Indigenous Native American to extinction; the white man murdered the Tasmanian Aboriginee man to extinction.

But whenever the Black man says we need to start killing, it's "impractical."

That's bullshit.

We need to be smart; we need to start playing chess and use their own system against them; we need to obtain positions of power by any means necessary - even if it means being an undercover coon.

Can you imagine what it would be like if David A. Clarke was really a down ass brother who was just playing a coon the whole time and flipped the script?

We need to infiltrate: more Black Marine officers, more Black Air Force officers, more Black Army officers, more Black Navy officers, more Black men working in the legislative, executive, and judicial branches of the government. We start from the bottom up.

Then when we're ready, give them a dose of their own medicine.

Fuck a museum. We need power!

And none of that "we're better than them" bullshit.

That's the absolute dumbest thing a Black man can say. You live in a society that shits on you everyday. Oh, excuse me, but we're "better than them." STUPID!!!!

Smarten up!!!!
No. You smarten up. They have the numbers AND the guns and you want to start shooting? When has that EVER worked?
 

mangobob79

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There were several posts above that advocated for mass CAC murder. I'm sick of it too which is why I made the petition. Tired of the talking. DO something. This isn't supposed to be a complete fix. Change comes in steps. All I'm reading in response to my appeal is "it's not enough so I won't do anything." Which is keeping with the status quo which is BULLSHIT. You want shit to change? Do what you can. Not everyone can be X, King, Evers, Obama, Kaepernick, DeRay, Van Jones, etc etc...we're regular people. What we CAN do is make our voices heard through the great equalizer called the internet. If you're not willing to do ANYTHING, even signing your name to something that would be an effective change because "its not big enough" then you're not ready for real change. Ain't none of you ready to pick up a gun if you're not ready to pick up a pen.

IM NOT AGAINST INCREMENTAL STEPS AND PROGREESSWHILE WE BADE OUR TIME..

Most of these dudes don't see us as actual human beings, a mandated museum visit won't change shit. What WILL change shit is holding terrible cops accountable for their fuckery. Bottom line. It's not rocket science.

This is already happening. Every day we're seeing cops being arrested and sent to jail for shooting black folks for no reason. We're more represented in media than ever before with the range and variety we've long craved. Superheroes, Cops, Thugs, reporters, average joes, and everything in between can be found represented by black people across the board which is the first step to "normalizing" our image. Things ARE getting better despite the covers being ripped off the dark underbelly of policing thanks to cellphone video. The mandated tour would give all cops not just white bigoted ones the same sense of perspective and weight they give the jewish holocaust and would be the start of a snowball effect.

JEWISH PEOPLE IN AMERICA ARE ALSO WHITE PEOPLE...
 

ShortyCumStain

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I told you!

We need to start killing.

The white man murdered the Indigenous Native American to extinction; the white man murdered the Tasmanian Aboriginee man to extinction.

But whenever the Black man says we need to start killing, it's "impractical."

That's bullshit.

We need to be smart; we need to start playing chess and use their own system against them; we need to obtain positions of power by any means necessary - even if it means being an undercover coon.

Can you imagine what it would be like if David A. Clarke was really a down ass brother who was just playing a coon the whole time and flipped the script?

We need to infiltrate: more Black Marine officers, more Black Air Force officers, more Black Army officers, more Black Navy officers, more Black men working in the legislative, executive, and judicial branches of the government. We start from the bottom up.

Then when we're ready, give them a dose of their own medicine.

Fuck a museum. We need power!

And none of that "we're better than them" bullshit.

That's the absolute dumbest thing a Black man can say. You live in a society that shits on you everyday. Oh, excuse me, but we're "better than them." STUPID!!!!

Smarten up!!!!

Speak!!!
 

Tuco

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havent been myself, But Dr. Boyce Watkins said that it was heavy on sports and entertainment and not so much on substance...
:dunno:

i haven't been either, but I'm listening to his thoughts on it now. he said "the slavery stuff is in the basement", which I've confirmed on their website....level C3. see the map below. that's an automatic fail IMO :smh: :smh:

https://nmaahc.si.edu/visit/maps

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playahaitian

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Was watching this documentary on Sitting Bull and Crazy Horse...Funny how they mirrored the dumped down versions of Martin and Malcom...

The white man labeled Crazy Horse Malcom and Sitting Bull Martin.

They killed MANY MANY white men.

White man murdered one and broke the others spirit in a glorified circus and committed genocide on their people.

And called an nfl franchise the red skins.
 

blackras9

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i haven't been either, but I'm listening to his thoughts on it now. he said "the slavery stuff is in the basement", which I've confirmed on their website....level C3. see the map below. that's an automatic fail IMO :smh: :smh:

https://nmaahc.si.edu/visit/maps

mapsection_900px.gif
This is the shit I'm talking about. Negativity. Before 2016 we didn't HAVE a fucking Museum that even acknowledged the AA experience. The people who literally BUILT America had nothing to honor the story. Now we have one and here comes the criticism because "it's not what I would do." Have you been there? Did anyone donate/campaign/work on getting it built? No? Then don't say shit because you didn't help. This petition or any petition is what the regular joe can do make some shit happen without sacrificing your families, income, or life. All the revolutionary talk and kill CACs talk and your not even willing to sign a document that says "I want change in how our police are trained". I'm done with the feel good talk. DO something! If you want to make another petition that puts forth an idea you think would help, I'm all for it but I'm done with empty feel good rhetoric.
 

Tuco

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This is the shit I'm talking about. Negativity. Before 2016 we didn't HAVE a fucking Museum that even acknowledged the AA experience. The people who literally BUILT America had nothing to honor the story. Now we have one and here comes the criticism because "it's not what I would do." Have you been there? Did anyone donate/campaign/work on getting it built? No? Then don't say shit because you didn't help. This petition or any petition is what the regular joe can do make some shit happen without sacrificing your families, income, or life. All the revolutionary talk and kill CACs talk and your not even willing to sign a document that says "I want change in how our police are trained". I'm done with the feel good talk. DO something! If you want to make another petition that puts forth an idea you think would help, I'm all for it but I'm done with empty feel good rhetoric.

VGQ

with regard to the museum in question, ill leave this thread with the words of Neely Fuller, which I happen to agree with:




Peace.
 

blackras9

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VGQ

with regard to the museum in question, ill leave this thread with the words of Neely Fuller, which I happen to agree with:




Peace.

I agree with the video...but you have me at a loss, what is VGQ? Edit: just found the video. Got you. Will only address you on your points
 

mangobob79

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This is the shit I'm talking about. Negativity. Before 2016 we didn't HAVE a fucking Museum that even acknowledged the AA experience. The people who literally BUILT America had nothing to honor the story. Now we have one and here comes the criticism because "it's not what I would do." Have you been there? Did anyone donate/campaign/work on getting it built? No? Then don't say shit because you didn't help. This petition or any petition is what the regular joe can do make some shit happen without sacrificing your families, income, or life. All the revolutionary talk and kill CACs talk and your not even willing to sign a document that says "I want change in how our police are trained". I'm done with the feel good talk. DO something! If you want to make another petition that puts forth an idea you think would help, I'm all for it but I'm done with empty feel good rhetoric.

BLACKRAS9 no one is saying what ure saying is wrong ,but u dont know what any of us do individually in our lives neither do we know how deep u are in or not ,in our liberation struggles but to take offense when some of us are sometimes r just not feeling like "hugging cops" in that photo op that ur dailynews will put on front page as "community relations" is a bit questionable..
.. some of us are in this struggle for real , we dont need to brag or post on a porn board or any board at that, but i trust u know, we can do more than just vote and "get involved' while we bide our time for real change. not saying anything u've suggested is wrong but its also not the only ONE WAY ....theres more than one way home my brother..

VGQ

with regard to the museum in question, ill leave this thread with the words of Neely Fuller, which I happen to agree with:




Peace.


^^^THIS IS HOW SOME OF US FEEL ABOUT ALOT OF THESE "PROGRESS" SOME FOLKS THINK WE SHOULD BE HAPPY N GRATEFUL TO WHITE FOLKS FOR
 

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BLACKRAS9 no one is saying what ure saying is wrong ,but u dont know what any of us do individually in our lives neither do we know how deep u are in or not ,in our liberation struggles but to take offense when some of us are sometimes r just not feeling like "hugging cops" in that photo op that ur dailynews will put on front page as "community relations" is a bit questionable..
.. some of us are in this struggle for real , we dont need to brag or post on a porn board or any board at that, but i trust u know, we can do more than just vote and "get involved' while we bide our time for real change. not saying anything u've suggested is wrong but its also not the only ONE WAY ....theres more than one way home my brother..



^^^THIS IS HOW SOME OF US FEEL ABOUT ALOT OF THESE "PROGRESS" SOME FOLKS THINK WE SHOULD BE HAPPY N GRATEFUL TO WHITE FOLKS FOR



That begging shit is not for me.
 

blackras9

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BLACKRAS9 no one is saying what ure saying is wrong ,but u dont know what any of us do individually in our lives neither do we know how deep u are in or not ,in our liberation struggles but to take offense when some of us are sometimes r just not feeling like "hugging cops" in that photo op that ur dailynews will put on front page as "community relations" is a bit questionable..
.. some of us are in this struggle for real , we dont need to brag or post on a porn board or any board at that, but i trust u know, we can do more than just vote and "get involved' while we bide our time for real change. not saying anything u've suggested is wrong but its also not the only ONE WAY ....theres more than one way home my brother..



^^^THIS IS HOW SOME OF US FEEL ABOUT ALOT OF THESE "PROGRESS" SOME FOLKS THINK WE SHOULD BE HAPPY N GRATEFUL TO WHITE FOLKS FOR
I ain't said shit about hugging a cop. I'm talking about making our story part of their mandated training. You're right. I don't know you or what you do in the real world. I can only go off the responses I'm getting here and the majority are this pseudo militant revolutionary talk that's closed minded to doing anything that doesn't involve killing white people en masse, something that would be essentially suicide. Hell I didn't even get a counter proposal...just "I ain't doing it because it's not far enough." As I've said multiple times, if you're not willing to pick up a pen, don't tell me you're ready to pick up a gun. I mentioned before there were multiple ways to reach the goal but not everyone is built for political office, police work, or street protests. My only goal was to offer a way for regular black folks to get involved and the push back I got was like I'd asked folks to cut off their dicks.

I get pissed when I see folks spit "knowledge" on here all day but when it's time to put that into action, there's resistance. That means your not really about anything but e-props and good feelings.
 

mangobob79

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I ain't said shit about hugging a cop. I'm talking about making our story part of their mandated training. You're right. I don't know you or what you do in the real world. I can only go off the responses I'm getting here and the majority are this pseudo militant revolutionary talk that's closed minded to doing anything that doesn't involve killing white people en masse, something that would be essentially suicide. Hell I didn't even get a counter proposal...just "I ain't doing it because it's not far enough." As I've said multiple times, if you're not willing to pick up a pen, don't tell me you're ready to pick up a gun. I mentioned before there were multiple ways to reach the goal but not everyone is built for political office, police work, or street protests. My only goal was to offer a way for regular black folks to get involved and the push back I got was like I'd asked folks to cut off their dicks.

I get pissed when I see folks spit "knowledge" on here all day but when it's time to put that into action, there's resistance. That means your not really about anything but e-props and good feelings.

very few folks here talk about all out n out "killing whitey" , we know its not the way ahead, the blackman isnt a demon by his design, we are a godly people N its what has put us in this dilemna,
like i said "incremental progress" is good , it adds something to the overall movement but some of us do that and still do more than that, like actually getting involved in commerce and making moves to build on global group economics ,which is where my main effort is on these days, i aint necessarily with marching but i support BLM and their efforts , i have nothing bad to really say about BLM other than to use the platform to push more for group econ awareness ,im with vocalizing and strategizing behind the scenes, i just get tired of constantly "reaching out to white people's conscience and humanity" ....im tired of us constantly tryin to get them to see our humanity ,thats all im saying!!!,
u can take that anway u want,but if u want to build on building a black universal group econ movement , then ill get with u on that ,

im just not here for "tryin to get whitefolks to see us as humans too" movements anymore..

my stance on The demonic racist Police issue is exactly what the elder Dick Gregory talked about ..... "INSURE THE POLICE!!!!"
I started a thread on that topic to pass on the thought to bruhs here, who might wanna know about that option,,as i believe thats the strongest angle we can take while maintianing our dignity as humans without asking anyone to "see us as humans too" their god is money, threaten that and they'll repent and get in line..kapisch!! ...
i dont need their 'community policing initiatives " anymore .. i dont need to train and teach anyone to see my humanity, no one taught us to see the world as one ,
so why do these cacs and cops need a training to see blackfolsk as humans too? ,
i dont need their affection or love or dailynews photo ops of "cop giving kids candies and or buying some single mother's groceries and teaching the single mother's kids how to play stickball
( after their wicked system used the same cops to make their fathers' lives hell on earth , kill off their fathers, then blame them for not being there for their kids ,
then walk around like a hero ,who shows up on their front porch to save the day and teach that single mother's kid how to play stickball becos ooohhhh their father's arent around :rolleyes2::rolleyes:!

respect rasta(assuming u are rasta then u should already know why some of us feel this way, MARCUS didnt ask to eat with them, he pushed for us to get our own dinner table...2c
 
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