(May 24 2023) - Another Sandy Hook just happened
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Because he is a pussy. Just like all of these
That's an insane amount of agencies.
What I think a lot of people don't realize is that the more agencies involved, the more disorganized the situation becomes. This is by no means me excusing the lack of response in this situation, but these groups really don't work well together.
Most departments have one or two other departments they work with occasionally, and even then its mostly "our suspect's headed in your direction" type stuff. Nothing complicated. That's why when they do have joint operations, command tends to default to the agency that has jurisdiction. That's why so many of this multitude of agencies really stood around not taking action. They're trained and conditioned to listen to the lead agency.
All of that said, the key issue is still their lack of action. Basically, everyone assumed someone else would do something, so no one did anything. I guess it's a classic case of belling the cat.
Google honours slain Uvalde youngster's wish: 'I want the world to see my art'
Before she was gunned down with her classmates in Uvalde, Texas, 10-year-old Alithia Haven Ramirez wanted to be an artist who shared her creations with the world. Now, Google has obliged by placing her artwork atop Google.com for 24 hours.
If Texas reelect Abbott after this there's no hope.
Don't forget Lt. Dan and the AG
Bo Jackson helps pay for Uvalde victims' funerals
Bo Jackson helped pay for the funerals of the 19 children and two teachers killed in the Uvalde school massacre in May.
Analysis: The two striking oversights in the Texas House report on Uvalde
One seasoned watcher of Texas politics finds the House committee report as notable for what it does not address as what it does.
In the hours after the mass shooting at Robb Elementary in Uvalde in May, Gov. Greg Abbott praised the work of law enforcement, saying that without the police the massacre of 19 students and two teachers “could have been worse.”
That narrative didn’t last long.
A Texas House committee report on the shooting confirms many damning details about the police response, including the first full accounting of all law enforcement officers on hand that day: 376 responders from across 23 federal, state and local agencies.
But James Henson, director of the Texas Politics Project at the University of Texas at Austin, argues that the report is as important for what’s left unsaid as what is. His analysis of the report is titled “Political evasions taint the work of the House Committee Report on the Robb Elementary School Mass Shooting.”
“I think two things stood out to me upon reading the report,” Henson tells Texas Standard. The first: the massive amount of Department of Public Safety troopers there that day, numbering 91 in total. “I was struck by the fact initially that there’s really very little detail of what DPS was or was not doing, given the detail about almost everything else that the report covers. And I think it does lead to political questions about why we know so much about what everyone else was doing and so little about what DPS was doing.”
» RELATED: ‘73 minutes is too long’: House Committee co-author on probe of police response in Uvalde
“The second thing I really noticed was just how big the report was about the significance of the weapon that was used in the assault:” a high-powered, AR-15-style semiautomatic rifle.
“It was really striking in the report how much detail there is about just what a large role the presence of the semi-automatic rifle that was used in the assault played on the police response,” Henson says, noting the report includes a “borderline literary description” of the destruction the rifle wreaked. “And yet,” he says, there’s “no direct engagement of the impact that the presence of those munitions had on the lackluster police response.”
“I think the trickle out of information about all of this has been not something that incumbents in the state really want in the election environment,” Henson says, noting the November elections. “And I’m not questioning [incumbents’] sincere regrets about the shooting.” But he adds, the report’s lack of curiosity about the DPS response and how the shooter’s AR-15-style rifle impeded police response are “a stark absence when you know that guns are a big issue among a very mobilized core of the Republican base, who do not want more gun control. And it’s a subject that I think most elected officials that are incumbents and Republicans in the state, frankly, don’t want to talk much more about – particularly of the role of the weapon in contributing to the outcome – when you vote.”
Why the fuck out of alllllllllll the people in the world and Texas
Bo jackson gotta fit the bill?????
Why we gatta save these mfz
Ben affleck couldn’t put no money up?
Leo DiCaprio?
Robert deniro?
The fuck
Bo jackson gotta fit the bill?????
Why we gatta save these mfz
Ben affleck couldn’t put no money up?
Leo DiCaprio?
Robert deniro?
The fuck
Uvalde DA: School shooting investigation, records release could take years
by: Monica Madden
Posted: Aug 4, 2022 / 08:04 PM CDT
Updated: Aug 5, 2022 / 06:12 AM CDT
TRAVIS COUNTY, Texas (Nexstar) — In some of her first public remarks since the Robb Elementary school shooting on May 24, the Uvalde County district attorney explained why she is withholding records during a lawsuit hearing Thursday, noting the investigation could take years.
Uvalde DA Christina Mitchell Busbee answered questions in a Travis County District Court for a hearing in the lawsuit brought by Texas Sen. Roland Gutierrez, D-San Antonio, who sued the Texas Department of Public Safety. His lawsuit seeks various records he requested under public information laws that could provide more clarity on the emergency response following the school shooting that killed 19 children and two teachers.
RELATED: Sen. Gutierrez says DPS asked him to sign non-disclosure in exchange for Uvalde information
“I believe that we need to have a broad scope of what happened. Every adults’ actions to see if we have any criminal charges. I don’t know that at this time, but I am willing to wait to get everything to find out,” Mitchell Busbee said during the hearing.
During the hearing, DPS Director Col. Steven McCraw reiterated he has not fulfilled Gutierrez’s open records requests — many of which have also been requested by Nexstar and many more media outlets — due to concerns cited by Mitchell Busbee.
Mitchell Busbee cited several reasons for why she believes some of these records — such as 911 phone calls, additional bodycam footage, and DPS’ policy manual for active shooter situations — mainly arguing the release could get in the way of her investigation and possible prosecution.
Both she and lawyers from the Office of Attorney General arguing on her behalf said releasing such records could not only interfere with her ability to build a case but also affect witness accounts.
Aside from looking into law enforcement action that day, she suggested she was looking at prosecution for potential accomplices to the 18-year-old gunman. The House Investigative Committee’s report did not suggest that the gunman acted with the help of others and Mitchell Busbee did not detail who those people may be.
“What happens is that people, witnesses, change their stories. They lawyer up. So if a suspect does not know that they are a target of an investigation, then they’re more apt to cooperate, provide statements,” she said.
Gutierrez pushed back on her suggestion of other accomplices, noting “the shooter is dead,” and the documents he is requesting doesn’t pertain to possible suspects but law enforcement response.
“I think it’s a bit preposterous. I mean, we all know that the shooter is dead. There’s no co-defendants,” the senator said in an interview with Nexstar. “What we’re trying to uncover in these open records requests are police malfeasance to a response.”
Mitchell Busbee also said she was concerned about “re-traumatizing” Uvalde families by releasing some of this information.
Robert Wilson, an attorney for a victim’s family, argued parts of this investigation will not change over time and therefore the families deserve the full truth now.
“They also have a need for this information because they have their own investigation that they need to do to determine if civil rights were violated on behalf of their loved ones,” Wilson said. “These families are in limbo.”
Other revelations during Thursday’s hearing
During cross examination, McCraw said that 34 of the DPS troopers and other law enforcement who responded to the shooting have bodycam footage from that day. So far, only seven bodycam videos of Uvalde city police officers have been made public, after the mayor released them on July 18.
Additionally McCraw said DPS had a drone on scene, because responders “were concerned about the subject exiting through the roof area.” That drone footage is also still not public.
Nexstar reached out to DPS for additional comment on Thursday’s hearing and did not hear back.
‘Multiple systemic failures’ revealed in House Committee report on Uvalde
Judge Catherine Mauzy agreed to state attorneys’ request for post-hearing briefing up until 5 p.m. on Monday, but said she wants to make a decision “sooner rather than later.”
by: Monica Madden
Posted: Aug 4, 2022 / 08:04 PM CDT
Updated: Aug 5, 2022 / 06:12 AM CDT
TRAVIS COUNTY, Texas (Nexstar) — In some of her first public remarks since the Robb Elementary school shooting on May 24, the Uvalde County district attorney explained why she is withholding records during a lawsuit hearing Thursday, noting the investigation could take years.
Uvalde DA Christina Mitchell Busbee answered questions in a Travis County District Court for a hearing in the lawsuit brought by Texas Sen. Roland Gutierrez, D-San Antonio, who sued the Texas Department of Public Safety. His lawsuit seeks various records he requested under public information laws that could provide more clarity on the emergency response following the school shooting that killed 19 children and two teachers.
RELATED: Sen. Gutierrez says DPS asked him to sign non-disclosure in exchange for Uvalde information
“I believe that we need to have a broad scope of what happened. Every adults’ actions to see if we have any criminal charges. I don’t know that at this time, but I am willing to wait to get everything to find out,” Mitchell Busbee said during the hearing.
During the hearing, DPS Director Col. Steven McCraw reiterated he has not fulfilled Gutierrez’s open records requests — many of which have also been requested by Nexstar and many more media outlets — due to concerns cited by Mitchell Busbee.
Mitchell Busbee cited several reasons for why she believes some of these records — such as 911 phone calls, additional bodycam footage, and DPS’ policy manual for active shooter situations — mainly arguing the release could get in the way of her investigation and possible prosecution.
Both she and lawyers from the Office of Attorney General arguing on her behalf said releasing such records could not only interfere with her ability to build a case but also affect witness accounts.
Aside from looking into law enforcement action that day, she suggested she was looking at prosecution for potential accomplices to the 18-year-old gunman. The House Investigative Committee’s report did not suggest that the gunman acted with the help of others and Mitchell Busbee did not detail who those people may be.
“What happens is that people, witnesses, change their stories. They lawyer up. So if a suspect does not know that they are a target of an investigation, then they’re more apt to cooperate, provide statements,” she said.
Gutierrez pushed back on her suggestion of other accomplices, noting “the shooter is dead,” and the documents he is requesting doesn’t pertain to possible suspects but law enforcement response.
“I think it’s a bit preposterous. I mean, we all know that the shooter is dead. There’s no co-defendants,” the senator said in an interview with Nexstar. “What we’re trying to uncover in these open records requests are police malfeasance to a response.”
Mitchell Busbee also said she was concerned about “re-traumatizing” Uvalde families by releasing some of this information.
Robert Wilson, an attorney for a victim’s family, argued parts of this investigation will not change over time and therefore the families deserve the full truth now.
“They also have a need for this information because they have their own investigation that they need to do to determine if civil rights were violated on behalf of their loved ones,” Wilson said. “These families are in limbo.”
Other revelations during Thursday’s hearing
During cross examination, McCraw said that 34 of the DPS troopers and other law enforcement who responded to the shooting have bodycam footage from that day. So far, only seven bodycam videos of Uvalde city police officers have been made public, after the mayor released them on July 18.
Additionally McCraw said DPS had a drone on scene, because responders “were concerned about the subject exiting through the roof area.” That drone footage is also still not public.
Nexstar reached out to DPS for additional comment on Thursday’s hearing and did not hear back.
‘Multiple systemic failures’ revealed in House Committee report on Uvalde
Judge Catherine Mauzy agreed to state attorneys’ request for post-hearing briefing up until 5 p.m. on Monday, but said she wants to make a decision “sooner rather than later.”
4 suspects involved in shooting at Uvalde Memorial Park identified by police
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Two of the four suspects in custody following a shooting at Uvalde Memorial Park. (Top right: Karlyn Valdez. Bottom right: Donovan Hill)
4 suspects involved in shooting at Uvalde Memorial Park identified by police
Uvalde police have identified four suspects involved in a shooting at <a href="https://www.ksat.com/topic/Uvalde/" target="_blank">Uvalde</a> Memorial Park that left two people injured and hospitalized.
Two of the four suspects in custody following a shooting at Uvalde Memorial Park. (Top right: Karlyn Valdez. Bottom right: Donovan Hill)
Gov. Greg Abbott deploys state troopers to “anti-gang effort” in Uvalde after two juveniles are injured in shooting
The two victims of a Thursday shooting at Uvalde Memorial Park are being treated in San Antonio hospitals. Abbott’s decision to send in DPS comes as the agency faces questions over its role in the May 24 shooting at Robb Elementary School.
www.texastribune.org
The two victims of a Thursday shooting at Uvalde Memorial Park are being treated in San Antonio hospitals. Abbott’s decision to send in DPS comes as the agency faces questions over its role in the May 24 shooting at Robb Elementary School.
Gov. Greg Abbott deploys state troopers to “anti-gang effort” in Uvalde after two juveniles are injured in shooting
The two victims of a Thursday shooting at Uvalde Memorial Park are being treated in San Antonio hospitals. Abbott’s decision to send in DPS comes as the agency faces questions over its role in the May 24 shooting at Robb Elementary School.
www.texastribune.org
4 suspects involved in shooting at Uvalde Memorial Park identified by police
4 suspects involved in shooting at Uvalde Memorial Park identified by police
Uvalde police have identified four suspects involved in a shooting at <a href="https://www.ksat.com/topic/Uvalde/" target="_blank">Uvalde</a> Memorial Park that left two people injured and hospitalized.
Two of the four suspects in custody following a shooting at Uvalde Memorial Park. (Top right: Karlyn Valdez. Bottom right: Donovan Hill)
UVALDE CISD HIRES FORMER DPS TROOPER WHO IS SEEN ON FOOTAGE WITHOUT ACTIVE SHOOTER RESPONSE TOOLS
Charly Edsitty
Thursday, October 6, 2022 8:06AM CT
abc13.com
Former Texas Department of Public Safety officer Crimson Elizondo resigned while being investigated for her response to the Uvalde school shooting massacre. Despite being one of those under investigation in the failed law enforcement response, she has now been hired to protect the city's school children.
In a community reeling from one of the worst school shootings in history, still begging for answers and accountability, CNN first learned that Elizondo, who is under investigation for her actions at Robb Elementary School, has a new job.
Elizondo is the newly hired school police officer at Uvalde Elementary, trusted with protecting some of the same students who survived the massacre.
Parents of children who were killed at Robb Elementary were the first to notice Elizondo on campus, recognizing her from body camera footage of the shooting.
Elizondo, a four-year veteran of the Texas DPS, was one of the first law enforcement officers on scene on May 24. She resigned from DPS over the summer and was hired by the Uvalde school district soon after.
Before Elizondo resigned from DPS, her actions and the actions of six other DPS officers at the scene of the shooting were referred for further investigation.
In a redacted internal memo to the organization's director obtained by CNN, DPS cited "actions which may be inconsistent with training and department requirements" as the reason for the referral.
Despite early efforts by state officials to blame the local police department in Uvalde for the failed response, a timeline from body camera footage shows Elizondo arrived to the scene just two minutes after the shooting began.
The new information now indicates she was among several DPS officers on scene who potentially could have taken action to stop the gunman. Footage shows her without a tactical bulletproof vest or long rifle, out of step with active shooter training.
She spends most of the 77 minutes before the classroom was breached outside the school.
According to sources familiar with the investigation, Elizondo told investigators that without her gear, she was not comfortable joining the others inside.
Out of nearly 400 law enforcement officers who responded to the shooting, 91 were from Texas DPS. Seven of those officers were referred for further investigation for their conduct that day.
Elizondo is one of them. The other six still work for DPS while the investigation into their actions continues.
It is unclear if the Uvalde school district was aware of the investigation at the time of Elizondo's hiring. The district has not responded to emails, calls, or direct questions from CNN.
Elizondo's hiring raises further question about DPS and the lack of transparency around the investigation and the conduct of its troopers.
Speaking to CNN back in September, DPS Director Steven McCraw promised he will resign if his agency was shown to have culpability for the botched response.
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Charly Edsitty
Thursday, October 6, 2022 8:06AM CT
Uvalde school district fires recently hired officer after learning she was under investigation for shooting response | abc13.com
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Former Texas Department of Public Safety officer Crimson Elizondo resigned while being investigated for her response to the Uvalde school shooting massacre. Despite being one of those under investigation in the failed law enforcement response, she has now been hired to protect the city's school children.
In a community reeling from one of the worst school shootings in history, still begging for answers and accountability, CNN first learned that Elizondo, who is under investigation for her actions at Robb Elementary School, has a new job.
Elizondo is the newly hired school police officer at Uvalde Elementary, trusted with protecting some of the same students who survived the massacre.
Parents of children who were killed at Robb Elementary were the first to notice Elizondo on campus, recognizing her from body camera footage of the shooting.
Elizondo, a four-year veteran of the Texas DPS, was one of the first law enforcement officers on scene on May 24. She resigned from DPS over the summer and was hired by the Uvalde school district soon after.
Before Elizondo resigned from DPS, her actions and the actions of six other DPS officers at the scene of the shooting were referred for further investigation.
In a redacted internal memo to the organization's director obtained by CNN, DPS cited "actions which may be inconsistent with training and department requirements" as the reason for the referral.
Despite early efforts by state officials to blame the local police department in Uvalde for the failed response, a timeline from body camera footage shows Elizondo arrived to the scene just two minutes after the shooting began.
The new information now indicates she was among several DPS officers on scene who potentially could have taken action to stop the gunman. Footage shows her without a tactical bulletproof vest or long rifle, out of step with active shooter training.
She spends most of the 77 minutes before the classroom was breached outside the school.
According to sources familiar with the investigation, Elizondo told investigators that without her gear, she was not comfortable joining the others inside.
Out of nearly 400 law enforcement officers who responded to the shooting, 91 were from Texas DPS. Seven of those officers were referred for further investigation for their conduct that day.
Elizondo is one of them. The other six still work for DPS while the investigation into their actions continues.
It is unclear if the Uvalde school district was aware of the investigation at the time of Elizondo's hiring. The district has not responded to emails, calls, or direct questions from CNN.
Elizondo's hiring raises further question about DPS and the lack of transparency around the investigation and the conduct of its troopers.
Speaking to CNN back in September, DPS Director Steven McCraw promised he will resign if his agency was shown to have culpability for the botched response.
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UVALDE CISD HIRES FORMER DPS TROOPER WHO IS SEEN ON FOOTAGE WITHOUT ACTIVE SHOOTER RESPONSE TOOLS
Charly Edsitty
Thursday, October 6, 2022 8:06AM CT
Uvalde school district fires recently hired officer after learning she was under investigation for shooting response | abc13.com
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Former Texas Department of Public Safety officer Crimson Elizondo resigned while being investigated for her response to the Uvalde school shooting massacre. Despite being one of those under investigation in the failed law enforcement response, she has now been hired to protect the city's school children.
In a community reeling from one of the worst school shootings in history, still begging for answers and accountability, CNN first learned that Elizondo, who is under investigation for her actions at Robb Elementary School, has a new job.
Elizondo is the newly hired school police officer at Uvalde Elementary, trusted with protecting some of the same students who survived the massacre.
Parents of children who were killed at Robb Elementary were the first to notice Elizondo on campus, recognizing her from body camera footage of the shooting.
Elizondo, a four-year veteran of the Texas DPS, was one of the first law enforcement officers on scene on May 24. She resigned from DPS over the summer and was hired by the Uvalde school district soon after.
Before Elizondo resigned from DPS, her actions and the actions of six other DPS officers at the scene of the shooting were referred for further investigation.
In a redacted internal memo to the organization's director obtained by CNN, DPS cited "actions which may be inconsistent with training and department requirements" as the reason for the referral.
Despite early efforts by state officials to blame the local police department in Uvalde for the failed response, a timeline from body camera footage shows Elizondo arrived to the scene just two minutes after the shooting began.
The new information now indicates she was among several DPS officers on scene who potentially could have taken action to stop the gunman. Footage shows her without a tactical bulletproof vest or long rifle, out of step with active shooter training.
She spends most of the 77 minutes before the classroom was breached outside the school.
According to sources familiar with the investigation, Elizondo told investigators that without her gear, she was not comfortable joining the others inside.
Out of nearly 400 law enforcement officers who responded to the shooting, 91 were from Texas DPS. Seven of those officers were referred for further investigation for their conduct that day.
Elizondo is one of them. The other six still work for DPS while the investigation into their actions continues.
It is unclear if the Uvalde school district was aware of the investigation at the time of Elizondo's hiring. The district has not responded to emails, calls, or direct questions from CNN.
Elizondo's hiring raises further question about DPS and the lack of transparency around the investigation and the conduct of its troopers.
Speaking to CNN back in September, DPS Director Steven McCraw promised he will resign if his agency was shown to have culpability for the botched response.
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Nobody should be in law enforcement with the name Crimson