MC Eiht breaks down the real on why Pac sonned the Hughes Brothers
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Good interview
Good interview...makes a lot of sense now
He explained that better than The Hughes brother at the Sway interview.
That makes a hell of a lot more sense, now.
You just can't cast Pac as a reformed member of Islam. Do some flashbacks of me busting on some niggas and getting caught up. Let them know, once upon a time, it was Thug Life at one point.
Cool...
Edit: also Eiht's account of things correlates with Tyrin Turner's story about Pac. He said Pac was like, "Okay, where my gun at?"
That makes a hell of a lot more sense, now.
You just can't cast Pac as a reformed member of Islam. Do some flashbacks of me busting on some niggas and getting caught up. Let them know, once upon a time, it was Thug Life at one point.
Cool...
Edit: also Eiht's account of things correlates with Tyrin Turner's story about Pac. He said Pac was like, "Okay, where my gun at?"
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For what? To suit his needs?
The movie didn't revolve around the character he was playing
Fuck a flashback or even dialogue on how Shareef came to be.
He was the best character in the movie IMO
Of course, man.
Despite his extreme youth, Pac had a legitimate brand. The Hughes Brothers said, despite how diminutive his role was, New Line Cinema was prepared to give him $300,000 for 3 weeks of work.
As a hardcore rapper, he was concerned about his image.
I can understand that because it's business related.
Makes sense to me. Show why he became a muslim because clearly he hung around nothing but gangster's every single person he knew and hung with was in the life and he just stuck out as a muslim preaching peace. There's no way he would have associated with those dudes if he hadn't been about that life before.
Made sense
Made sense
which is the reason why it pretty much didn't need to be explained if that was the case...but I don't agree w/ "there's no way"...my take on it was they grew up together...he had his pops to keep him straight tho...they didn't...but bcuz of his pops and his upbringing he wouldn't be phony enough to turn his back on his friends...pretty much like cuba in boyz and the cats he ran w/ and real life instances of this...movie worked well w/o having to necessarily dive into his "story"
like trace said this was about pac protecting his "thug" brand...shit many rappers would love to be in a role that didn't typecast them
Man, get the fuck outta here with that bullshit. What would that back story have added to the movie? Nobody who has ever watched the movie, in the 20+ years since it was released, has ever walked away from it thinking "MAN! I wonder what made that brother become Muslim?!"
His image to play an intelligent peaceful black man was troubling for him to do?!?!?
But didn't he try to play this same role in real life....sometimes?
Dude was a huge fucking hypocrite
Exactly and great point bringing up Cuba in Boyz in the hood
Father was present in both roles
Man I sit back and look at my niggas that went too far astray and either in the pen right now or have been before all but one didn't have a father present
Mine was right there to keep me in line my whole life and never let me free fall and set a great example
I can't stress enough how important that shit is man
I really can't
The only legitimate gripe Pac had was the fact that (if true) they used his name and rising star to get their picture greenlit and funded only to offer him a less desirable, non-starring role in the film.
If that is in fact the case he would have a legitimate reason to be upset.
As far as him thinking more should have been added to the Shariff character I disagree everything about that character was completely clear and he had a perfect amount of screen time.
If that is in fact the case he would have a legitimate reason to be upset.
As far as him thinking more should have been added to the Shariff character I disagree everything about that character was completely clear and he had a perfect amount of screen time.
I disagree somewhat. It still needed to be explained a little bit because his pops wasn't a muslim.. he said he wasn't he said if it keeps him off the streets he's all for it so it still is yet to be determined what turned him to islam
and all of this could've been explained or taken a quick flash back when they were sitting at the table in the classroom. didn't need to be a 15 minute deviation from the story or something and while it didn't ruin the movie that it wasn't included it would have added that much extra if it was.
this is just the idea. i ain't worried about pac in this instance im saying the idea was good and even if dude who ended up getting the part portrayed it that way it would've been cool
Well if he was the reason was being funded then he had every right to think more should have been added to this character since he was responsible for all of them having jobs in the first place
Word...
Like Eiht said, they really didn't want to work with him. But PAC was bankable and those directors wanted the movie budget.
I can relate to both characters...I was the "square" in comparison to the other dudes I rolled w/ and what they were about...but we grew up together so I didn't look @ them funny and vice versa...sometimes I had the sense to pull back and chill...other times they'd straight up say this ain't for you...you need to sit this one out...but ya I didn't see sharif hanging out w/ them as something that needed to be questioned or explained w/ a flashback...growing up in a black neighborhood many ppl would understood the dynamics of their relationship
ya I haven't watched the flick in a minute but I don't think sharif character was ever about that life...from the eiht interview it seems like pac thought the character was corny and threw a tantrum over it
this is the story I've always heard
Larenz Tate killed that role fam, nobody wanted to see a West Coast version of Bishop. That would've been way too 1 dimensional.
What more did you want from the role? I think some of you cats can't help but romanticize your fantasies of Tupac. His argument about the role he was offered had less to do with the character and more to do with his ego and it didn't break him nor the movie by him not being in it. All of a sudden Sareef's back story needed to be told and Larenz Tate left something to be desired with the role of O-Dog
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Pac wanted the main character or one of the main character roles because his name was being used for the movie; Its not hard to see; He knew he was the star, Eight said it; And he knew that Hughes Brothers didnt want to work with him but they had to; So If my name is gonna be used to promote/green light the movie and Im a "star"; then I would want to be a main character of the movie as well; All you guys saying other shit is funny though...
You don't bring on an iconic figure like Pac and not give him a role with some meat to it or a moment for his character to shine and add some impact to the film. Just doesn't make sense. It would be like casting Denzel Washington as supporting cast only to use him in a 50 second scene just to say you put him in the movie. It doesn't make sense and it's a waste of talent.
The Hughes Bros knew having Pac in the film would be a good vehicle to get the film funded and even get it publicity. But if your not gonna cast 2pac in a co-starring or lead role at least give him a memorable character that adds to the plot element.
The Hughes Bros knew having Pac in the film would be a good vehicle to get the film funded and even get it publicity. But if your not gonna cast 2pac in a co-starring or lead role at least give him a memorable character that adds to the plot element.
2pac had out one album and had been in two movies at that point he was nowhere near an Icon.
Also while Pac had talent he was never even in his best role on the level of an actor like Denzel.
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Larenz Tate killed that role fam, nobody wanted to see a West Coast version of Bishop. That would've been way too 1 dimensional.
What more did you want from the role? I think some of you cats can't help but romanticize your fantasies of Tupac. His argument about the role he was offered had less to do with the character and more to do with his ego and it didn't break him nor the movie by him not being in it. All of a sudden Sareef's back story needed to be told and Larenz Tate left something to be desired with the role of O-Dog
Probably a debate for another thread. I think Larenz killed that role precisely because he didn't look like a "killer" or somebody trying to be "hard." He looked and acted like a regular teenager until those occasions where he snapped (Korean grocer, crackhead with burger, etc.).