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Whatever Happened to Kevin Smith's 'Mallrats 2' and 'Clerks 3'?


By Courtney Enlow | Trade News | February 15, 2017 | Comments (42)





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On this week’s episode of SModcast, Kevin Smith and guest co-host Jason Mewes (Scott Mosier is doing a secret project in France) addressed the elephant that’s just been standing in the room smoking a blunt for a year or whatever: the status of Clerks 3 and Mallrats 2, both of which were announced with great fanfare and both of which just kind of pulled a Snoopy-slinkaway.

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Without naming names, Smith tells us that one of the four key players ultimately decided he didn’t want to be part of the third Clerks movie (Jeff Anderson. I’m assumung it’s definitely Jeff Anderson. If Brian O’Halloran is cool doing the clown rape movie, he was cool doing Clerks 3).



“You need those four or else you ain’t got a fuckin’ motion picture. It ain’t Clerks anymore.”
Smith wrote a script and said one of the four parties wasn’t interested. But after some convincing, everyone was on board. They secured $8 million in financing and were set to follow Creed to shoot in Philadelphia, using some of the same crew members from that film. But at that point, it looks like Smith’s attempts to quell the concerns of the unnamed fourth party (Anderson, guys, pretty sure it’s Anderson) were unsuccessful.

“We had our loot, and one of our four players didn’t want to do the movie. So, you know, it fell apart and it fell apart pretty close to the moment where people were starting to leave to go to the east. We were just about to open an office. So it was pretty ugly. Not ugly, but it sucked… I tried to do everything I could. I offered up more, offered to forgo my monies, but there was no way. Humpty could not be put back together again.”
After that unsuccessful effort, Smith then put his focus on Mallrats 2. And as those of us who follow Smith on social media know, he secured most of the cast, save for, to our public knowledge, Ben Affleck. Smith, understandably reticent after what happened with Clerks 3, didn’t want to start writing until he knew it was a done deal.

“I’m not gonna go through what I just went through, where we were gonna make it and then I had no power over whether the movie got made or not.”
His agent presented him with three possibilities: Universal (which still owned the original film, though they didn’t remember that when they were first approached) finances, he co-finances with Universal, or Universal gives up the rights and lets him make it alone. Once written, Smith was told he needed to run the script past Universal for their blessing and to ensure he didn’t besmirch the studio’s good name. But once the studio had the script, there was one glitch.

“Apparently in the history of this company, Universal, they have never released a catalog title…They consider themselves a catalog warehouse and a studio, and they’ve never let go of a single property in the history of Universal. Once they own it, they own it.”
With the only options now being studio financing or a Smith-Universal co-financing, the studio wasn’t interested. Smith took it to Focus Features (part of Universal) and Universal Television to perhaps attempt develop it as a series. (“Everyone is like ‘did you take it to Netflix?!’ Of course we took it to Netflix.”) Everyone passed.

With those projects killed, there remained but one well for Smith to revisit. And that well is filled with snootchies and bootchies.

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Kevin Smith Reveals Why Clerks 3 And Mallrats 2 Will Never Happen Feb.20.17 – by Joseph Medina 110 Shares110 Over the past decade or so, Kevin Smith has had quite the interesting turn in his career. He had his start in the indie world back in the early 1990s with the foul-mouthed micro-budget movie Clerks. The movie went on to get purchased by Miramax, and thus began a career with more twists and turns than an M. Night Shyamalan film. As he made more films, they generally increased in budget bit by bit, and before long, Smith went the traditional Hollywood route with the 2004 movie Jersey Girl, which was an experience that left him a bit unhappy. With that negative experience behind him, he opted to head back to the View Askewniverse with Clerks II. Smith went on to do many other films and projects, and for a while, it seemed like those characters were done. A couple years back, however, Smith floated the idea that he was working on Clerks III, a successor to the beloved first two films. Nothing really came out of that, and before long, Smith was hard at work on a Mallrats sequel. That sequel turned into a TV show and then seemingly disappeared once he announced he’d be making Jay and Silent Bob Reboot. So what’s the deal? Are Mallrats 2 and Clerks III on the back burner, or are they done for? Sorry fans, but it looks like this ain’t gonna happen. While on his YouTube show Fat Man on Batman, Smith regaled listeners with his long journey of both Clerks III and Mallrats 2. He began with Clerks III, discussing how they were all but ready to go forth with production. They’d even started to look at crew to hire, and would have been the next production in Philadelphia, where many crew members were finishing up Creed. “You need four people to make a Clerks movie…For a while, one of the clerks did not want to be involved. I wrote the script, he dug the script, he was just like, ‘yeah, don’t wanna do it.’ It took me years to get him to a place where, ‘oh, maybe I’ll do this.’ And then it looked like we were moving forward. We had loot for it. $8 million. That was the budget. […] “Two months before shooting, it fell apart. One of the four main characters did not want to be involved. It quickly spiraled out of control in a big, bad way, and wound up not happening — and probably could never happen after the stream of events…it hit a wall, and sometimes that’s a wall you can’t get over.” Unfortunately, this led to the Clerks III not getting made, and based on that story, it doesn’t sound like it’ll ever be in the cards, for better or worse. From there on, Smith went on to do Yoga Hosers, putting Clerks III on the back burner, so to speak, though in reality, he already knew the project was dead, and just didn’t want to say it aloud. He then shifted focus to Mallrats 2. For a while, it seemed like a possibility, and he figured that he could buy the rights from Universal — and was even advised that it was possible. However, unbeknownst to Smith (who went on to write a script for the film), Universal was not a company that sold their rights. In fact, they have never released a title in their entire history. The only way to make it happen would be if Universal agreed to fund the whole thing. Smith went on to have meetings with the various subsidiary studios of Universal, but to no avail. There did, however, seem to be some interest in Smith turning the movie into a series, but despite various other meetings with networks, there were no bites. “It was one of those things where, ‘Oh my god, I can usually make reality happen, but I don’t own this reality, so I have to play to the game.’ And to be fair, it had its shot in a different marketplace — TV. And still, you know, people were just like, ‘no.’ And I got in every room, it’s not like people were just like, ‘we don’t wanna hear it.’” In short, Clerks III was shot down due to a cast member not being on board, and Mallrats 2 seems to have run through all its options, leaving them at a dead end. While we can never truly say never, for the time being, the prospect of these films getting made is pretty unlikely. And with Smith now hard at work at Jay and Silent Bob Reboot, he may very well lose interest in all those other projects altogether. Those who are downtrodden about all may find comfort in the fact that Smith is actually planning on releasing the scripts to the film and selling them. Every cloud has a silver lining. What do you think? Are you sad you won’t get to see some of your favorite characters return, or are you relieved that Kevin Smith won’t have to revisit those specific wells? Let us know your thoughts down below! Read more at: https://tr.im/1lyaX
 

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I wonder why Jeff doesn't want to do it... full disclosure, I used to work with him before and during the filming of Clerks. He wasn't an actor, not into performing at all... just a early 20's guy with no college, working in the mailroom at bell labs... and the next thing you know, he's coming to work exhausted because he was filming this movie every night at a store... then all the sudden they're talking about it on cnn and boom he's got a name. He hasn't really done much outside of the Kevin Smith universe, and I'm pretty sure he didn't make enouugh money from Clerks, the cartoon or Zack and Miry Make a Porno to be well off.... so shit, why wouldn't he want a gig that would probably pay him some $$$ and get his face out there again?
 

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I wonder why Jeff doesn't want to do it... full disclosure, I used to work with him before and during the filming of Clerks. He wasn't an actor, not into performing at all... just a early 20's guy with no college, working in the mailroom at bell labs... and the next thing you know, he's coming to work exhausted because he was filming this movie every night at a store... then all the sudden they're talking about it on cnn and boom he's got a name. He hasn't really done much outside of the Kevin Smith universe, and I'm pretty sure he didn't make enouugh money from Clerks, the cartoon or Zack and Miry Make a Porno to be well off.... so shit, why wouldn't he want a gig that would probably pay him some $$$ and get his face out there again?
you would think people would chomp at the bit for something like that..but I guess it really wasn't his dream.. alot of people get disillusioned with hollywood and say fuck it it aint worth the emotional BS I have to deal with..

remember this guy
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Lloyd was just 10 when he starred in 1999's critically-slated Star Wars prequel alongside the likes of Liam Neeson, Ewan McGregor and Natalie Portman.

After that, Lloyd landed voice acting gigs for several Star Wars games, along with a role in 2005 film Madison, but then that was pretty much it - and he later announced he'd be retiring from acting, citing being bullied at school as his main reason.


He also explained that at one point, he was having to endure up to 60 interviews a day, which is something that even a fully-grown adult would struggle with, let alone a young actor.

"Other children were really mean to me," the Sun reported him as saying to 'a magazine', in 2012.

"They would make the sound of the lightsaber every time they saw me. It was totally mad. My entire school life was really a living hell - and I had to do up to 60 interviews a day."

He added: "I've learned to hate it when the cameras are pointed at me."

Fast forward to June 2015, when news broke that Lloyd had been arrested in South Carolina for reckless driving, driving without a license and resisting arrest.

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According to the Daily Mail, he had been driving in Charleston when the sheriff of Colleton County, South Carolina, started pursuing him, before a chase ensued for 25 miles.

Lloyd eventually lost control of his car and plowed into a fence, continuing to drive along a road before reaching a wooded area, where the pursuit ended.

He was imprisoned until April 2016, before being moved to a psychiatric facility - with mother Lisa reportedly telling TMZ that Lloyd has schizophrenia.

Now 29, very little has been heard of Lloyd since the news of his arrest.

It's pretty heartbreaking to know that Lloyd had such a bad experience with his time in Hollywood; we can only hope the future's a bit kinder to him.

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I wonder why Jeff doesn't want to do it... full disclosure, I used to work with him before and during the filming of Clerks. He wasn't an actor, not into performing at all... just a early 20's guy with no college, working in the mailroom at bell labs... and the next thing you know, he's coming to work exhausted because he was filming this movie every night at a store... then all the sudden they're talking about it on cnn and boom he's got a name. He hasn't really done much outside of the Kevin Smith universe, and I'm pretty sure he didn't make enouugh money from Clerks, the cartoon or Zack and Miry Make a Porno to be well off.... so shit, why wouldn't he want a gig that would probably pay him some $$$ and get his face out there again?

I cant find my post but Kevin finally went into detail about this but never revisited it.
 
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Damn, that's a shame if that's it. If he just got disillusioned with movie making I could understand more, cause if something makes you miserable, I can just see staying away from it. ...but even though he was pretty much the main stand out character with all the good lines in the first one, it's not like he's a big name. Then again though, if they were offering him seriously shitty money, that's another story and I could understand.

By the way, he almost wasn't acting in those flicks :lol:
That shit was his personality straight up. I don't know Jason Mewes but from what I hear, the same goes for him.

Didn't dude get gassed over his stardom and wanted mad bread for the next installment? Was making mad demands so they pretty much canned the idea
 

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Kevin Smith moves ahead with ‘Clerks III’ after Jeff Anderson signs on. Snoochiest Boochies!
Updated Oct 02, 2019; Posted Oct 01, 2019
Amy Kuperinsky | NJ Advance Media for NJ.com
Dreams do come true for Jay and Silent Bob ... and Kevin Smith.

On Tuesday, with just two weeks left before the opening of his “Jay and Silent Bob Reboot,” the director announced on social media that “Clerks III” is a go.

Previously, Jeff Anderson, who played Randal Graves in “Clerks" and “Clerks II,” did not sign on to the project, and Smith shelved the “Clerks III” script. But the director continued to hold a candle for the unmade film. In August, he hosted a reading of the script to benefit the First Avenue Playhouse in Atlantic Highlands. When Smith finished the first draft of the script in 2013, he called its 137 pages “the ‘Empire Strikes Back’ of the ‘Clerks’ trilogy.”

Now, Anderson is back onboard the “Clerks” train, and Smith is teasing a new script that he just started to write.

Smith, 49, a Red Bank native who grew up in Highlands, shared the news on Instagram, where he shared a photo with Jay Mewes and Anderson. They had talked about making the movie when they were signing “Clerks” merchandise.

“We talked about making a movie together,” Smith said. "It’ll be a movie that concludes a saga. It’ll be a movie about how you’re never too old to completely change your life. It’ll be a movie about how a decades-spanning friendship finally confronts the future. It’ll be a movie that brings us back to the beginning - a return to the cradle of civilization in the great state of #newjersey."

Whether that confirms the movie will be filmed in New Jersey is unclear, but seems likely, although “Jay and Silent Bob Reboot” was filmed in New Orleans.

big reunion with Ben Affleck (who plays a part in Jay and Silent Bob reboot, as his “Chasing Amy” character, Holden McNeil, alongside Matt Damon, who reprises the role of Loki from “Dogma”), inspired his reunion with Anderson.

“After mending fences with @benaffleck earlier this year, I was hoping for a chance to do the same with Jeff," Smith said.

“The biggest thanks ever go to Jeff, for being receptive to the idea at all,” he said. “This means I’m gonna get to play with my two favorite inaction figures again: Dante & Randal!”

“Clerks” was the black-and-white comedy that made Kevin Smith a name in Hollywood after its premiere at Sundance in 1994. Old Bridge’s Brian C. O’Halloran, now 49, starred as Dante Hicks, who manned the register at the QuickStop in Leonardo and “wasn’t even supposed to be here today." Anderson, also 49, who grew up in Atlantic Highlands and went to high school with Smith, played video store employee Randal Graves, who is always busting Dante’s chops or generally neglecting his duties.


Smith would go on to make a string of movies set in his New Jersey “View Askewniverse," many of which get mini-sequels or tie-ins in the forthcoming “Jay and Silent Bob Reboot." The director filmed “Clerks” after his own shifts at the QuickStop. The store makes a reappearance in “Reboot." Its facade was reconstructed in New Orleans, bringing Smith to tears.

This year, Smith marked the 25th anniversary of the “Clerks” premiere. The movie’s official release was almost exactly 25 years ago, on Oct. 23, 1994. Made for a budget of $27,000, “Clerks” went on to gross $3,151,130 domestically. “Clerks II” followed in 2006.

The cast of “Clerks,” apart from Anderson and Jackson’s Lisa Spoonauer (Dante’s ex-girlfriend, Caitlin Bree) who died in 2017, make one in a long line of guest appearances and cameos in “Jay and Silent Bob Reboot,” which will debut in a two-day Fathom Events screening on Oct. 15 and 17 before Smith and Jason Mewes take the movie on the road for their Reboot Roadshow, which launches in Asbury Park on Oct. 19.

“Two weeks from the debut of @jayandsilentbob Reboot (on @fathomevents screens 10/15 & 10/17, link in my bio), I’m ecstatic to announce our imminent return to Quick Stop!" Smith said. “So I assure you: we’re open!”

In 2012, Smith said that Anderson and his other longtime collaborator, “Clerks" producer Scott Mosier, would not be a part of a “Clerks III” until an audit of residuals from “Clerks II” was settled with The Weinstein Company, which had produced the film. After the sexual assault allegations against Harvey Weinstein came out in 2017, Smith pledged to donate all residuals from his Weinstein-backed films to a nonprofit, saying he would contribute $2,000 each month to Women in Film, a group that works to advance the careers of women in the film industry. He also offered to serve as a mentor to women filmmakers.

Of course, there wouldn’t be any “Clerks” sequels if Smith had stuck with his original ending for the first movie, in which Dante is shot dead by a customer who loots the cash register.
 

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Kevin Smith is going deep into meta territory for Clerks 3.

The writer-director unveiled new details about his recently-announced sequel in an interview with The Wrap, explaining that the story follows Randal (Jeff Anderson) deciding to make a certain movie after a brush with death.

“Randal has a heart attack, decides that he came so close to death, and his life has meant nothing, there’s nobody to memorialize him, he has no family or anything like that,” Smith said. “He comes to the conclusion at mid-life, having almost died, having worked in a movie store his whole life and watched other people’s movies, he tells Dante [Brian O’Halloran], I think we need to make a movie. So Dante and Randal make Clerks. That’s the story of Clerks 3.”

This story is no doubt inspired by Smith’s own heart attack in 2018, and, of course, draws further inspiration from the filmmaker’s life. The first Clerks, shot on a minuscule budget and released in 1994, was Smith’s directorial debut and launched his career. The film follows a day in the life of the titular retail clerks in New Jersey, and introduced such characters as Jay and Silent Bob (Jason Mewes and Smith, respectively). Now the third film, as Smith explains, “writes itself because I f—ing lived it 25 years ago.”


“It’s just warm and f—ing wonderful,” Smith continued. “They’re figuring it out the same way I figured it out, but I have the benefit of being able to cherry pick all my favorite moments and stories of making Clerks and putting it right back into their hands.”

This story deviates from previous iterations of Clerks 3 that Smith has written, including the script presented via a live reading in New Jersey earlier this year.

“That was a movie that was written by a guy who was obsessed with middle age and dying, and it was all about death,” Smith said of the live reading script. “And that was before I almost died. Then I almost died, and now I don’t really want to talk about that s—. I’ve been too close. Now I just want to do life affirming things. The tone is going to shift completely. I owe those guys, those characters, Dante and Randal, a lot more than the kind of doom and gloom I was about to put them through.”


Smith previously confirmed that Anderson and O’Halloran would return to reprise their roles, along with himself and Mewes. Smith’s latest directorial effort, Jay and Silent Bob Reboot, hits theaters Oct. 15.
 

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Kevin Smith says 'entire cast' of Mallrats will return for sequel

Film will focus on Jason Lee's character Brodie and his daughter.
By Clark Collis
October 14, 2020 at 12:56 PM EDT




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Earlier this week, EW posted a chat with writer-director Kevin Smith in which he reminisced about making 1995's Mallrats and discussed how, over time, this box office bomb achieved the status of a cult classic. But what about the future of what it seems we now need to start calling "the Mallrats franchise"? At the end of our walk down memory lane, Smith teased the film's sequel, Twilight of the Mallrats, which will revolve around Jason Lee's superhero comics-obsessed Brodie.
"Looks like we’re heading toward it now in 2021, which is very exciting for us," said Smith. "It takes place 25 years after the original and features the entire cast, [and] a new cast of characters as well. It’s about Brodie and his daughter and the death of the mall. The Brodie that we met in Mallrats has only been proven right in life. The world came around to his way of thinking. So, based on that, Brodie never really had to grow up and now, at this juncture in time, we face the moment when he might actually have to become an adult."

The cast of the original Mallrats also included Shannen Doherty, Jeremy London, Ben Affleck, Joey Lauren Adams, Claire Forlani, Jason Mewes, Michael Rooker, and the director himself.
Smith will be making the film in collaboration with Universal, which released the original Mallrats. According to the director, the studio was unaware it held the rights to the film, which grossed a mere $2.1 million back in 1995.
"When I handed them the script for Mallrats 2, they were like, 'We own Mallrats 1?'" said Smith. "I was like, 'Yeah, it’s yours!' Mallrats is a movie that’s a little bit lost in time in many ways. It’s a real relic of its era, but at the same time, maybe except for the lack of cell phones and the haute couture, that movie still plays today, probably better than it did in 1995."

Watch the trailer for the original film above.

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Damn, I wonder what the story is/was with Jeff Anderson. Gotta imagine any movie money would be a good thing, so saying no for year's, it must have been some real bad blood.
Used to work with him right before Clerks came out, and he literally tripped and fell into the first movie....was just a mail clerk at Bell Labs trying to figure out wtf to do with his life.
 
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