Music Legal: Can you SUE for someone jacking your style? (Action, Doog, Thicke)

Piff504

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Nah he stole ghost flow and cadence . Ghost style is ahis own but Bronson does his mimic.
he doesnt rhyme like ghost. Ghost also is more agressive. Bronson mostly says punches. cadence isnt like ghost either. nothing Bronson makes sounds like any flow on supreme clientele . Droog does have Nas's rhyme scheme.
 

jack walsh13

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I think that Your Old Droog actually predates Nas....

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playahaitian

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I also agree.

Sound mad similar but the average listener can tell them apart

And Bronsons LP was a let down. A couple of joints but thats about it

a HUGE let down

especially after

dude said Ghost aint spitting like THIS anymore?

He need to realize how many CLASSIC albums Ghost got on his resume...

mostly SOLO too.

dude got some dope mixtapes but f*cked up under the pressure and scrutiny and ran to TV

but I notice this is the culture vulture MO recently

see Lil dicky.
 

BigDaddyBuk

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12 notes in music. 12 keys, 12 scales.

about 35 major chords.

its hard to create riffs that sound completely unique from whats already been recorded.

but lets be honest. sometimes folks just simply copy other folk's shit.

back in the 90's they were playing Third Eye Blind: Semi Charmed which sounded damn near exactly like Spin Doctors: Two Princes which was released 4 years prior. nobody whooped ass in court over that, but Cold Play settled with Joe Satriani over a song that sounded like Cat Steven's stuff.

shits crazy. i'd give hip hop a pass cause its based on sampling music. its all about warming up left overs and adding Mrs Dash to it.

oh and Luda jacked Em who totally jacked Masta Ace...while Jay was busy jackin' the original Kanye West (who i am still a fan of. i dont know who this attention whoring wanna be Karl Lagerfeld dude is.)
 

Big Bang

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The whole idea behind copyrights is that the creators have the exclusive right to content of their work. That means songwriters own the lyrics and melody while performers own all recordings of the performance. That copyright does not include chord progressions, drum patterns, musical styles, performance styles, or subject matters.

IMO it shouldn't include style either. There are too many great works of art that have been made from fusing other styles and bringing them to the next level. For instance, Michael Jackson's classic "Billie Jean" performance which was based on a Gene Kelly routine and a Soul Train dance. Also art is often too subjective to prove that one person copied another's style. If, for instance, Chuck Berry were to sue the Beatles for ripping off his style, all the Beatles would have to do is find a public domain recording of an artist with a style somewhat similar to Berry's and claim they copied him instead. It's a lot harder to do that with words and music.

The Blurred Lines case was a travesty. The only reason Thicke and Williams probably lost was because of their arrogance. Ed Sheeran ripped off Marvin Gaye's style far worse with his cover of Let's Get it On (AKA "Thinking Out Loud), but the Gaye family didn't sue him. Probably because they knew they weren't going to clean up twice.
Copyright law wouldn’t provide the necessary protections for what the OP is asking, but one would have a stronger case to make under a trademark and/or privacy (name & likeness) theory. The outcome would be case specific, but the short answer is yes, you could trademark certain characteristics and mannerisms if you are a celebrity and it is part of your persona. Check video games for example.
 

playahaitian

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Copyright law wouldn’t provide the necessary protections for what the OP is asking, but one would have a stronger case to make under a trademark and/or privacy (name & likeness) theory. The outcome would be case specific, but the short answer is yes, you could trademark certain characteristics and mannerisms if you are a celebrity and it is part of your persona. Check video games for example.

Would this extend to the carlton dance controversy in fort nite?
 

Big Bang

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Would this extend to the carlton dance controversy in fort nite?
The problem with Ribeiro's lawsuit was 1) he sued under a copyright theory (I don't think he ever trademarked the dance and probably couldn't), and not under a "right of publicity" claim and 2) "Carlton" was a fictional character on a show that he didn't own (and by extension probably couldn't own the dance).

But athletes have to license not only their image and likeness to video game makers, but also their mannerisms which help to identify the video game characters as the particular player.
 

playahaitian

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The problem with Ribeiro's lawsuit was 1) he sued under a copyright theory (I don't think he ever trademarked the dance and probably couldn't), and not under a "right of publicity" claim and 2) "Carlton" was a fictional character on a show that he didn't own (and by extension probably couldn't own the dance).

But athletes have to license not only their image and likeness to video game makers, but also their mannerisms which help to identify the video game characters as the particular player.

^^^^^^

excellent points
 

D@mnphins

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Cypress did sue but pulled it back after the dis track and they made up.

Cypress - Throw Your Set in the Air


Cube - Friday
Love the way that beats drops at the start


Cypress - Wicked - diss track to Cube
 
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