Music: Pete Rock - Mumble Rappers like Yachty, Y’all Don’t Care About The Culture, Make Better Music

HotNixon36

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Yeah, my thing is how do criticize someone for not having a stage presence after the first album? How many people come out the gate with a stage presence? To me that's an unfair criticism

MC's back then faced much harsher criticism than rappers now, it was not easy for anybody to get recognition. Niggas had to earn their stripes back then... Inspektah Deck put in the most work on 36 Chambers, got the almost the least shine.
 

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HotNixs If you saw Nas you did I'm Im not debating that. I don't have a problem with ya just a difference of opinion. What I'm saying is you really cant criticize someone for no stage presence if they goal wasn't to put on a show. Knowing how to preform is taught thru repetition rappers lyricist in particular practice flowing not where to stand on stage. As far as freestyling nobody every really did that off the top unless you was in a cipher somewhere just joking around. Most rappers have a few rhymes some more that they have on cap mentally and spit those. They may add on a piece here and there to keep it fresh but that's it. Even on mixtapes most of them shits was throw away rhymes B side joints or new lyrics they didn't put on official recordings yet.
 

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Like I said Bill Clinton Caused the downfall of all music. I wouldn't mind Young Dolph if everybody didn't sound like Dolph. All these niggas are clones and wack. All regions sound the same. No variety. Only The Bay and LA make original sounding music. Everybody else is a South clone. Jersey and NYC shame on you niggas biting the south.
 

HotNixon36

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HotNixs If you saw Nas you did I'm Im not debating that. I don't have a problem with ya just a difference of opinion. What I'm saying is you really cant criticize someone for no stage presence if they goal wasn't to put on a show. Knowing how to preform is taught thru repetition rappers lyricist in particular practice flowing not where to stand on stage. As far as freestyling nobody every really did that off the top unless you was in a cipher somewhere just joking around. Most rappers have a few rhymes some more that they have on cap mentally and spit those. They may add on a piece here and there to keep it fresh but that's it. Even on mixtapes most of them shits was throw away rhymes B side joints or new lyrics they didn't put on official recordings yet.

If somebody is advertising that he is performing at a venue, small or large, and charging people to see and listen to them, what are the fans paying for?

 

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Put a million on the table and on one side of stage put old over forty ass KRS, Kane and Redman and on the other who and however many current dudes.


NO CONTEST. These new ninjas are straight trash and half Sammy.
 

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Pete Rock of all people talking shit? LOL he's trizzash on the mic himself.

He gave my ff button plenty of work back in the day. That nigga was fucking his own solo albums up trying to spit his weak bars on every track.
 

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I've see KR several times he ain't no helluva showman. If he goes thru his classics the crowd is with him the shit is live. When he tries new stuff and stops the show dropping his philosophies its trash.
You paying to hear the music live. I don't expect no elaborate spectacle when I go to a Ghostface concert. Just a mic DJ and a couple hype men running round the stage.

If somebody is advertising that he is performing at a venue, small or large, and charging people to see and listen to them, what are the fans paying for?

 

durham

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I've see KR several times he ain't no helluva showman. If he goes thru his classics the crowd is with him the shit is live. When he tries new stuff and stops the show dropping his philosophies its trash.
You paying to hear the music live. I don't expect no elaborate spectacle when I go to a Ghostface concert. Just a mic DJ and a couple hype men running round the stage.


Man your crazy if you don't think KRS one is dope live. Dude is almost 60. In his prime from the late 80's with BDP through the KRS one album with "Ah Yeah" maaaaan when the songs hit, when his voice got excited...the crowd would go bananas...then when he went off the top ON BEAT, on topic and flipped back to the classics...man..nobody can do that today, except maybe Kendrick.
 

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Man your crazy if you don't think KRS one is dope live. Dude is almost 60. In his prime from the late 80's with BDP through the KRS one album with "Ah Yeah" maaaaan when the songs hit, when his voice got excited...the crowd would go bananas...then when he went off the top ON BEAT, on topic and flipped back to the classics...man..nobody can do that today, except maybe Kendrick.
Yea the 10 minutes of classic material awesome the other 45 mins not so much.
Niggas on the internet is the only time I hear bout Kendrick Lamar. To the younger dudes I know Future and Gucci the GOAT.
 

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Flossy White23 minutes ago
says the garbage faced nigga wit blonde tipped dreads if he don't get his fake OG azz on somewhere. nigga look like a gay porn actor

ThePolymation48 minutes ago
I got no problem with these mumbling musicians. Just don't try to legitimize your crap by calling it Hip-Hop or Rap. And btw, being black doesn't automatically make your music Hip-Hop

Moejii -54 minutes ago
The crazy thing is these kids like maco and yachty are trying to make mumble rap a thing.. How the fuck can yall put out tracks and people can't understand wtf they saying like desiiigner

KontryBoy70654 minutes ago (edited)
There's SO MUCH BULLSHIT in this video I can't even call it all out in the comments. Nigga contradicts himself so many times in the same breath and same sentence it's embarrassing and sad. Take this shit down Vlad

Zack Marshall1 hour ago
Vlad lame AF. OG Maco lame AF. Maco tryna sound smart we see through that shit with yo googling ass. Fuck this whole faggots channel.


Towns People49 minutes ago
someone slap this homeless man

Jared Oles48 minutes ago
god damn this mother fucker looks retarded


Kingkye8047 minutes ago
Sad thing is this dude really think hes right


QuickSilver SnD1 hour ago
This nigga look like a dried up seahorse

Kenny Lafortune1 hour ago
fuck this ugly nigga smokin? I grew up in the 90's Pete rock was NEVER called garbage, these bitch ass niggas like lil yatchy, & OG wacko need to be extinct from hip hop

Rayvon Harris1 hour ago
I'm 16 And I Think The Music Nowadays Is So Trash In My Opinion
 

Complex

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Pete Rock of all people talking shit? LOL he's trizzash on the mic himself.

He gave my ff button plenty of work back in the day. That nigga was fucking his own solo albums up trying to spit his weak bars on every track.

and yet he was still better than these mumbling muthafuckas
 

woodchuck

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Flex on some bandwagon shit. He needs to STFU! He's the main one championing that shit. Was Nas screaming about the death of hp hop when he was calling himself "Nas Escobar" and telling shorty she "owed him for ice"? Leave these fucking kids alone. There's good shit from young rappers if you want it. Instead of giving these mumble rappers shine and exposure, why don't these "legends" prop up the good young rappers and give them the exposure?
 

stretchwallz

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The hip hop game is like basketball. If you could hoop in the 80s you can still ball today.

Kareem, Isaiah, Dr J could play in 2016 if they were born in 90s. They have the basic skills to compete.

Problem is hip hop fans stopped caring about the basic skills. Imagine if basketball fans stopped caring if people could shoot ? Or said dribbling was pointless ? That's today's hip hop.

I remember when I went to a party around 2000 and the DJ played all Master P... people were loving it(and Master P was terrible "uggggh") the fans stopped holding artists to a standard.

It's gotten progressively worse ...but people still emjoy it !? Listening to hip hop today is like watching NBA players kick the ball into the stands because it's cool
 

jack walsh13

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Fuck that. Any new age cat disrespecting Pete Rock, a legend in hip hop and one of my fav producers of all-time, is dead to me even before I listen to his music. Lil McBoaty can eat a dick.
Real talk fuck dat bitch nigga.

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N*E*R*D

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Let them lil yachts and Verts do what they do

I personally couldn't tell you anything they have made but I'm not about to throw a fit about their music that I don't listen to
 

ShortyCumStain

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I personally ain't finna sit down to listen to some lyrical miracle, rappity rap niggas or none of these other niggas either. I can't get jiggy with that shit. :dunno:
 
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