NBA 2018-2019 playoffs thread...finals is set..”Warriors vs Raptors 2-4” Raptors win the title!!!

Rembrandt Brown

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All that shit you say about Curry doesn't even matter. But fact is he's in position for 4 rings! And counting! Fact is he will go down as the greatest shooter the NBA has ever seen, EVER!! fact is he will be considered top 5 pg ever. Hes already considered that right now. So all that finals mvp shit that you and other dumb posters like to bring up means absolutely nothing. Everything that GS is is because of steph, period

I can't wait for him to win Finals MVP just to end this stupid ass conversation.

It's just unfathomable that any serious person inflates the importance of an award for one series like it means that much. Like Steph's value is lessened by who sportswriters felt had the best numbers in last year's four game sweep. Like Andre was more responsible for the first title than Steph. I think it's dishonest bullshit not even worth engaging on.
 

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I can't wait for him to win Finals MVP just to end this stupid ass conversation.

It's just unfathomable that any serious person inflates the importance of an award for one series like it means that much. Like Steph's value is lessened by who sportswriters felt had the best numbers in last year's four game sweep. Like Andre was more responsible for the first title than Steph. I think it's dishonest bullshit not even worth engaging on.
Absolutely right but like Iggy said its a lot of jealousy and hatred for steph for no reason. It definitely shows up on this board ....
 

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I can't wait for him to win Finals MVP just to end this stupid ass conversation.

It's just unfathomable that any serious person inflates the importance of an award for one series like it means that much. Like Steph's value is lessened by who sportswriters felt had the best numbers in last year's four game sweep. Like Andre was more responsible for the first title than Steph. I think it's dishonest bullshit not even worth engaging on.
Let me try to help you, because i know you just started watching sports last week..

The trophy matters and in the context of tier one level players, its used (along with other barometers) to measure and set a pecking order as it pertains to all time greats, how they faired among their peers, and how they faired on the highest levels and biggest stages. Steph was once upon a time forced into this conversation for a litany of reasons ( which ive stated going back 5 years... @Spectrum ). Now that he has legitimacy earned his place in the discussion, these accolades matter. Like i said earlier, they keep track of them for a reason. There is nothing dishonest, or bullshit discussing the absence of FMVP awards for a guy being labeled top 5 (and rising) at his position all time. Qualifiers, and quantifiers help separate and validate these arguments and standings. They also contextualize a players greatness which serves to better assess order on all time totem poles.
 

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Let me try to help you, because i know you just started watching sports last week..

The trophy matters and in the context of tier one level players, its used (along with other barometers) to measure and set a pecking order as it pertains to all time greats, how they faired among their peers, and how they faired on the highest levels and biggest stages. Steph was once upon a time forced into this conversation for a litany of reasons ( which ive stated going back 5 years... @Spectrum ). Now that he has legitimacy earned his place in the discussion, these accolades matter. Like i said earlier, they keep track of them for a reason. There is nothing dishonest, or bullshit discussing the absence of FMVP awards for a guy being labeled top 5 (and rising) at his position all time. Qualifiers, and quantifiers help separate and validate these arguments and standings. They also contextualize a players greatness which serves to better assess order on all time totem poles.

The NBA Finals is just the last series. It's not necessarily the most important one in a title run, as many people pointed out heading into Houston vs GS this year and was obvious heading into last year's NBA Finals sweep off of a seven game series between the two teams. It's match-up dependent and a very small sample size. Playoffs MVP would be a much more meaningful accolade. Just because "they" keep track of the Finals MVP and not the most essential player during a playoff run doesn't mean it makes the most sense or make it a meaningful measurement.
 

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The NBA Finals is just the last series. It's not necessarily the most important one in a title run, as many people pointed out heading into Houston vs GS this year and was obvious heading into last year's NBA Finals sweep off of a seven game series between the two teams. It's match-up dependent and a very small sample size. Playoffs MVP would be a much more meaningful accolade. Just because "they" keep track of the Finals MVP and not the most essential player during a playoff run doesn't mean it makes the most sense or make it a meaningful measurement.
Still spitting in the wind i see.. :cheers:
 

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Earlier I said Cousins was worthless. Well....

This crow I'm eating taste terrible.



It will be very interesting to see if this holds up.

Small sample sizes lead to wild proclamations, so I wouldn't read too much into this, but it's definitely the opposite of what I expected heading into the series, so it's an interesting trend.
 

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Let me try to help you, because i know you just started watching sports last week..

The trophy matters and in the context of tier one level players, its used (along with other barometers) to measure and set a pecking order as it pertains to all time greats, how they faired among their peers, and how they faired on the highest levels and biggest stages. Steph was once upon a time forced into this conversation for a litany of reasons ( which ive stated going back 5 years... @Spectrum ). Now that he has legitimacy earned his place in the discussion, these accolades matter. Like i said earlier, they keep track of them for a reason. There is nothing dishonest, or bullshit discussing the absence of FMVP awards for a guy being labeled top 5 (and rising) at his position all time. Qualifiers, and quantifiers help separate and validate these arguments and standings. They also contextualize a players greatness which serves to better assess order on all time totem poles.

If the Warriors get to the point where they know the series is won, you're going to see some epic force-feeding... like when a RB has a chance to get to 2,000 yards and it's week 17...2nd half and he's sitting at 1,950.

Everyone on that team is very aware of the narrative that will be set for Curry with multiple rings and not one Finals MVP.
 

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And with KD out and Klay with a hamstring issue....and Boogie still playing himself into shape, it's hard to imagine a scenario where Curry doesn't get it if the Warriors do win..... unless Curry keeps shooting like this and Green continues to average a triple double
 

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It will be very interesting to see if this holds up.

Small sample sizes lead to wild proclamations, so I wouldn't read too much into this, but it's definitely the opposite of what I expected heading into the series, so it's an interesting trend.


Because they're going to a larger lineup with him on the floor (because of injuries) and the Raptors have small guards and Siakam also struggles against bigs in the paint. It's a catch 22 for the Warriors... they prefer the small ball lineup but that's also the lineup the Raptors prefer
 

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Because they're going to a larger lineup with him on the floor (because of injuries) and the Raptors have small guards and Siakam also struggles against bigs in the paint. It's a catch 22 for the Warriors... they prefer the small ball lineup but that's also the lineup the Raptors prefer

Cousins basically giving them that taller and better offensive version of Draymond green dynamic... Dude was working Gasol properly last night
 

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And with KD out and Klay with a hamstring issue....and Boogie still playing himself into shape, it's hard to imagine a scenario where Curry doesn't get it if the Warriors do win..... unless Curry keeps shooting like this and Green continues to average a triple double

Man media already set the narrative from the blazers series to give it to Dray...

Curry ganers so much attention Nurse literally made the Raps play a box and 1 just to get the ball out of currys hands... That’s some MVP level attention Curry is getting because of his presence but the Media dead set on not giving it to Curry... Shit is fucked up, same clowns cost Klay 30 mill not voting him to an all NBa team
 

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Man media already set the narrative from the blazers series to give it to Dray...

Curry ganers so much attention Nurse literally made the Raps play a box and 1 just to get the ball out of currys hands... That’s some MVP level attention Curry is getting because of his presence but the Media dead set on not giving it to Curry... Shit is fucked up, same clowns cost Klay 30 mill not voting him to an all NBa team

So the “Media” has something against Steph? :confused:

Stay was getting triple-doubles, getting the offense rolling and making a huge imprint on the games. Not sure what “Narrative” you’re speaking of?
 

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And with KD out and Klay with a hamstring issue....and Boogie still playing himself into shape, it's hard to imagine a scenario where Curry doesn't get it if the Warriors do win..... unless Curry keeps shooting like this and Green continues to average a triple double
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What will the narrative be if Green gets FMVP? I never brought into the 'Steph is a finals choker' argument. Five straight final appearances with 3 (maybe 4) rings to show for it. I can't label him a choker with those numbers. But if he still can't get a FMVP with Klay and KD out, that has to hurt his legacy a little.

I still want the Raptors to win, but if GS does win, I want it to be because Steph went full super saiyan. I don't want to see GS play overwhelmingly good team basketball. I either want the Raptors to win or Steph to go crazy and carrying GS on his shoulders. Like breaking the 3 points in a game record again while also having at least two 40+ games.
 

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So the “Media” has something against Steph? :confused:

Stay was getting triple-doubles, getting the offense rolling and making a huge imprint on the games. Not sure what “Narrative” you’re speaking of?
Bro they were literally slobbing Green’s nuts in the blazers series when Steph was averaging 37 on those dudes.. they kept mentioning Dray and Klay in the finals or KD coming back that could possibly win finals MVP...
 

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Bro they were literally slobbing Green’s nuts in the blazers series when Steph was averaging 37 on those dudes.. they kept mentioning Dray and Klay in the finals or KD coming back that could possibly win finals MVP...

Well now that mention it I feel you! Steph didn’t really show up until KD went down. Steph was struggling and wasn’t doing that great.

Steph came back alive once KD was injured.
 

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What will the narrative be if Green gets FMVP? I never brought into the 'Steph is a finals choker' argument.

It will just be that he's not played his best in the Finals (which is true) and that he's on such historically great teams that it doesn't matter.... they can still win relatively easy with him just playing ok.

He shot 33% from the floor on the road with KD out and Klay not playing most of the 4th and it didn't matter.

Not very many all-time greats have been afforded that consistent luxury in the Finals. It took Lebron doing some next level shit (leading all players in every meaningful statistically category) to barely beat them in 7 games and them muthafuckas added Kevin Durant and Demarcus Cousins. These niggas are literally playing with an all star team.. that's why it doesn't even matter when multiple players get hurt. Fuck this team.

I don't think people fully appreciate the comfort players get from knowing it doesn't matter if they don't show up for a game because another all-star can just pick up the slack..in the fucking Finals.

In the past, if a team lost a player as a good as KD going into the Finals, it was a fucking wrap. You had no chance. It was a foregone conclusion no matter how hard they fought..and that could be just for one game..not a whole fucking Finals. When Zeke got hurt in game 6 against the Lakers, everyone knew it was a wrap even though the Pistons fought tough.... shit even the 83 Lakers couldn't survive Worthy's injury right before the playoffs..and he was a rookie! made them too thin in the finals. Even Kendrick Perkins getting hurt had a material impact on their game 7.

The penalty for the Warriors having a serious injury is that DeMarcus Cousins gets more playing time :smh:

Not one player on this fucking team has shown they can be depended on nightly to lead a team... that's why bitch ass Durant (who was up 3-1 on the warriors and folded) ran over there. I've love to see a situation where any of them was required to show up on a consistent basis and be that guy.
 
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It will just be that he's not played his best in the Finals (which is true) and that he's on such historically great teams that it doesn't matter.... they can still win relatively easy with him just playing ok.

He shot 33% from the floor on the road with KD out and Klay not playing most of the 4th and it didn't matter.

Not very many all-time greats have been afforded that consistent luxury in the Finals. It took Lebron doing some next level shit (leading all players in every meaningful statistically category) to barely beat them in 7 games and them muthafuckas added Kevin Durant and Demarcus Cousins. These niggas are literally playing with an all star team.. that's why it doesn't even matter when multiple players get hurt. Fuck this team.

People seem to forget that Steph didn’t play his best in the Finals. There’s no conspiracy to Not give him the MVP.

His numbers were OK in the Finals, but he hasn’t played his best ball in the Finals.
 

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People seem to forget that Steph didn’t play his best in the Finals. There’s no conspiracy to Not give him the MVP.

His numbers were OK in the Finals, but he hasn’t played his best ball in the Finals.


Yea it’s almost like he struggles in big games....I think he normally struggle in all star games also, he have struggled on Christmas Day games tooooooo
 

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Bro they were literally slobbing Green’s nuts in the blazers series when Steph was averaging 37 on those dudes.. they kept mentioning Dray and Klay in the finals or KD coming back that could possibly win finals MVP...
The Media hates Green man. Steph is a media darling. Are you watching the games ? Green is making them go. Green made plays down the stretch ... Steph didn’t even score. Iggy and cook hit the much need buckets.

This is their 5th run and Skip Baylee’s the number 1 Steph lover even said that 3 in the Portland series was the first clutch playoff bucket he’s hit.

It’s not hate that he hasn’t won any Finals MVP he didn’t deserve any of them and of these first 2 games he’s not their MVP.
 
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