NBA Finals 2016-2017 - Golden State wins NBA title 4-1 vs Cleveland Cavaliers...great series!!!

[IT IS WHAT IT IS]

Kevin Durant and Lebron James are roughly the same level.

Difference is, Kevin has always played in the Western Conference, and he dealt with key team injuries some years back on OKC.

However, now that he has pulled an Inkosi, he shines that much more brightly.

Lebron is the all-around guy, who can score; Durant is the pure scorer, who can contribute in other areas.

I'm going to always take the great scorer, who is efficient all around the floor.

He can attack you offensively more ways . . .

. . . and is far superior FT shooter.

I can agree with this, and as it stands right now in this series head to head Durant is outplaying lebron. Lebron is getting numbers But Durant is being more effective, and outplaying him, and at the end of the game durants numbers are sticking out in lebrons are looking hollow. Not only that look at lebron's turn over numbers.

 

[playahaitian]

They are reaching this morning but.... has he outplayed LeBron head up so far?

KD is better than Lebron and is the next Jordan...

that is all we talking about here.

Congrats to him.

As long as he gets the SAME energy LeBron got from the masses attacking him?

Its all good.

 

[IT IS WHAT IT IS]

Wrong again. I dont even have conversations with you niggas because honestly most of you are morons.. You cats get offended and outraged and engage me. Look who brought up all that shit to begin with...

Post number 4 of avoidance. Ive asked u two direct questions and to avoid Ls you are dodging like you are in the matrix. You said you are objective right?

Let me refresh your memory....

I nevet said KD was better than LeBron, I ASKED you was he outplaying LeBron in this series...

You said you are objective when it comes to Curry, I said you were full of shit and asked you to show 2 posts since last night speaking to his game.... crickets....

So, you are trying to deflect with these bullshit rants...

Answer my questions mr objectivity....

 

[Amajorfucup]

It is deflective because you avoid my question with a question, because you know what the answer to my question is and with a high level of objectivity you are having an issue answering it. It's not a back-and-forth, I asked you a question, answer my question, and then follow it with your question, and I answer your question. That's a discussion, it's only a back-and-forth when you are avoiding for for post now answering a direct question. That my objective friend is called a deflection

Its not deflection bro.. Its a refocus of the topic at hand. Instead of addressing that you posed another question to skirt the answer. PH started the discussion with a quote stating KD>>Bron. I replied. You then replied and posed another question that ignored the original. I didnt feed into that and stayed on the original topic. That aint deflection. Sorry.

 

[IT IS WHAT IT IS]

KD is better than Lebron and is the next Jordan...

that is all we talking about here.

Congrats to him.

As long as he gets the SAME energy LeBron got from the masses attacking him?

Its all good.

That was a bullshit statement but its funny how objective people have a rough time answering a very simple question....

IS KD OUTPLAYING LEBRON IN THESE FINALS?

Not sure why that is such a hard question to answer...

 

[Famous1]

Thats no deflection. Thats staying on topic.. The original post this morning was someone saying KD was better. Thats the string YOU replied to. So instead of that mush mouth bullshit you talking, i redirected the shit straight up to end the back and forth. Is KD a better player than Bron? Yes or No.

Yes.

 

[IT IS WHAT IT IS]

Its not deflection bro.. Its a refocus of the topic at hand. Instead of addressing that you posed another question to skirt the answer. PH started the discussion with a quote stating KD>>Bron. I replied. You then replied and posed another question that ignored the original. I didnt feed into that and stayed on the original topic. That aint deflection. Sorry.

There is not topic for me because I NEVER SAID KD WAS BETTER THSN LEBRON! I even referenced that statement was bullshit...

My question to you still stands for the 10th time... is KD outplaying LeBron in this series? Yes or No?

You are deflecting Bruh and where are your quotes of your objective curry post about last nites game Ive asked you for multiple times?

 

[playahaitian]

That was a bullshit statement but its funny how objective people have a rough time answering a very simple question....

IS KD OUTPLAYING LEBRON IN THESE FINALS?

Not sure why that is such a hard question to answer...

I did answer your question.

KD is BETTER than Lebron and is the next Jordan

what more do you want?

 

[Better]

This shit is crazy...

Why?

Lebron didn't go to all these Finals in a row until he teamed up with two other All-Stars.

Now that Durant did the same, he's leading his band of All-Stars and mowing over the competition, too. He's currently mowing over Lebron.

Durant has been a premier player for years.

He is not JUST a scorer. He can definitely contribute in other areas, and is arguably one of the most unique, and dangerous scorers to ever play the game. He is ALSO efficient.

Lebron is a more versatile defender, sure.

But, at the end of the game, the object of the game is to outscore your opponent, and Durant can score in more ways than Lebron James, and is just as efficient, even though his primary means of scoring is attacking the rim.

Nobody saying Lebron is lame, but Durant is great in a different way.

I don't think you can drop Lebron James in any era and he does the EXACT same thing. All that driving to the basket would have been problematic for him when you got touched up going to the rim, and there were ELITE shot blockers. At one point, they said dude average shot length was 2.9 feet. Furthermore, Lebron James is playing in a small ball era. He's often the biggest guy on the floor, and when he gets to the rim, there is usually nobody noteworthy their to contest his shot.

Durant would be what he is in any era. A great shooter at that HEIGHT? There is no way to guard that...

...AND he can put the ball on the floor.

Why am I focusing on scoring?

Look at Lebron's teammates. It don't matter how well you can pass if your teammates can't convert. Defense is great, but you can't defend everybody at once. Rebounding is great, but you have to convert them into point.

It ALWAYS comes back to scoring.

...and I feel I can count on Durant at the end of games, and is more reliable at the FT line.

I mean, I've always felt Lebron was a tad overhyped. Dude has played under perfect conditions in the east i.e. weak opponent; multiple All-Stars on roster aside from himself - and his approach to scoring is PERFECT for this era, but less so in previous eras.

 

[Dontarius Dukes]

I did answer your question.

KD is BETTER than Lebron and is the next Jordan

what more do you want?

Jordan was a two/shooting guard...

 

[playahaitian]

Lebron is only averaging a triple Double in the Finals.

KD is is the best player on the wining team.

if Lebron was on the Monstars would HE be getting the SAME numbers?

If its yes?

then KD aint outplaying Bron

cause its been PROVEN

KD couldn't get the numbers he is currently getting (and WIN) if he was currently on the Cavs (or on OKC).

 

[Amajorfucup]

Yes.

You're a fucking moron.

You are deflecting Bruh and where are your quotes of your objective curry post about last nites game Ive asked you for multiple times?

I dont think you know what objective means.

Heres a hint tho: It dont mean the absence of criticism or the presence of praise

 

[Better]

I just don't feel like you dudes are very honest about Lebron's weaknesses. He's just been able to mask the glaring holes in his game by playing weak opponents, and have Olympic caliber teammates who defenses HAVE to pay attention to.

 

[playahaitian]

Jordan was a two/shooting guard...

But don't you understand Dukes...

Lebron sucks.

He lost in the Finals too many times.

All his teams had all stars and hall of famers

He is the GM and coach.

Look at KD's numbers and only Jordan is the possible equivalent.

Positions don't matter.

KD is an all around player and has proven he is a winner his whole career.

Its Jordan, KD, Russel, Chamberlain, Kareem.

That's the list.

 

[Dontarius Dukes]

ob·jec·tive
əbˈjektiv/
adjective

1. 1.
   (of a person or their judgment) not influenced by personal feelings or opinions in considering and representing facts.
   "historians try to be objective and impartial"
   synonyms: impartial, unbiased, unprejudiced, nonpartisan, disinterested, neutral, uninvolved, even-handed, equitable, fair, fair-minded, just, open-minded, dispassionate, detached, neutral
   "I was hoping to get an objective and pragmatic report"

 

[dtownsfinest]

That's an interesting take.

I personally don't believe they'd be winning by 20 without KD. That's just me, though.

Ehhhh.....I don't know about 20 but last year people forgot Steph was hurt last year in the playoffs. If Steph would've never got hurt and was healthy that result last year would've been different.

 

[Dontarius Dukes]

But don't you understand Dukes...

Lebron sucks.

He lost in the Finals too many times.

All his teams had all stars and hall of famers

He is the GM and coach.

Look at KD's numbers and only Jordan is the possible equivalent.

Positions don't matter.

KD is an all around player and has proven he is a winner his whole career.

Its Jordan, KD, Russel, Chamberlain, Kareem.

That's the list.

Kobe is the closest player to Jordan at the shooting guard position. But niggas don't respect positions in basketball no more-- hence why there are no more centers.

 

[Amajorfucup]

Lebron didn't go to all these Finals in a row until he teamed up with two other All-Stars.

Now that Durant did the same, he's leading his band of All-Stars and mowing over the competition, too. He's currently mowing over Lebron.

This is where your argument fails... (here and common sense).

Durant played most of his career with ATLEAST two all stars or NBA all defense level talents... He just left a team with Russ Wilson and Serge Ibaka.. which had James Harden for four years...

Now, two games into a seven game series makes him a superior player than a nigga who has been the best player on the planet for 10 years.. You cats are beyond stupid.

 

[Dontarius Dukes]

This is where your argument fails... (here and common sense).

Durant played most of his career with ATLEAST two all stars or NBA all defense level talents... He just left a team with Russ Wilson and Serge Ibaka.. which had James Harden for four years...

Now, two games into a seven game series makes him a superior player than a nigga who has been the best player on the planet for 10 years.. You cats are beyond stupid.

Scott Brooks wasn't winning no Finals breh... and Billy Donovan ain't either.

 

[Amajorfucup]

Ehhhh.....I don't know about 20 but last year people forgot Steph was hurt last year in the playoffs. If Steph would've never got hurt and was healthy that result last year would've been different.

No doubt... He was hurt like shit...

 

[Amajorfucup]

Scott Brooks wasn't winning no Finals breh... and Billy Donovan ain't either.

Ohhhhhh so its the coach now? Gotcha.. No doubt.. Mike Brown is all world.

 

[playahaitian]

Kobe is the closest player to Jordan at the shooting guard position. But niggas don't respect positions in basketball no more-- hence why there are no more centers.

sidebar: I have noticed that the whole Kobe Jordan discussion just been quietly tossed out the window recently...

just saying.

hold on Dukes...you are NOT saying Kobe was BETTER than Lebron?

 

[Dontarius Dukes]

sidebar: I have noticed that the whole Kobe Jordan discussion just been quietly tossed out the window recently...

just saying.

hold on Dukes...you are NOT saying Kobe was BETTER than Lebron?

Jordan & Kobe are two-guards. They were not getting the rebounds that the 3s and 4s get.
Lebron is a small forward built like a power forward. Y'all niggas need to quit these apple-banana comparisons.

 

[playahaitian]

Ohhhhhh so its the coach now? Gotcha.. No doubt.. Mike Brown is all world.

Luke Walton got no credit and Mike Brown ain't about to get no credit either...

unless the Monstars LOSE.

Record wins REALLY helps heal the back.

Funny how that works out, huh?

Somebody call Phil.

 

[IT IS WHAT IT IS]

You're a fucking moron.

I dont think you know what objective means.

Heres a hint tho: It dont mean the absence of criticism or the presence of praise

More deflection...

15th time...

Is KD outplaying LeBron yes or no?

 

[playahaitian]

Jordan & Kobe are two-guards. They were not getting the rebounds that the 3s and 4s get.
Lebron is a small forward built like a power forward. Y'all niggas need to quit these apple-banana comparisons.

Hey Hey Hey

it aint ME.

Its THEM.

I'm just sitting back chilling.

Positions don't matter anymore apparently...

they compare Jordan to Wilt, Lebron to Kareem, Magic to Kobe...

THEY keep telling me Lebron aint shit and got LUCKY to beat the Warriors, Curry riding KD coattails and KD is the next Jordan.

So who am I to argue?

 

[IT IS WHAT IT IS]

No doubt... He was hurt like shit...

Jumped on this tho... took the time to go to youtube for vids too... I see you Mr. Objectivity

 

[IT IS WHAT IT IS]

This is where your argument fails... (here and common sense).

Durant played most of his career with ATLEAST two all stars or NBA all defense level talents... He just left a team with Russ Wilson and Serge Ibaka.. which had James Harden for four years...

Now, two games into a seven game series makes him a superior player than a nigga who has been the best player on the planet for 10 years.. You cats are beyond stupid.

So... with all that being said... is KD outplaying LeBron, yes or no?

 

[IT IS WHAT IT IS]

I did answer your question.

KD is BETTER than Lebron and is the next Jordan

what more do you want?

My questions is he better or who he is the next of... my question is simple, is he outplaying LeBron in this series, yes or no?

 

[Dontarius Dukes]

Ohhhhhh so its the coach now? Gotcha.. No doubt.. Mike Brown is all world.

Now that you mention it...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Brown_(basketball,_born_1970)#Head_coaching_record

Mike Brown as a head coach has only had one losing full season-- with the Cavs before Lebron came back.
His career win-loss percentage as a head coach is .616 and yes, he coached Lebron's Cavs to the Finals back when their second best player was Larry Hughes.

So...

 

[playahaitian]

My questions is he better or who he is the next of... my question is simple, is he outplaying LeBron in this series, yes or no?

you just don't like my answer.

 

[Dontarius Dukes]

Hey Hey Hey

it aint ME.

Its THEM.

I'm just sitting back chilling.

Positions don't matter anymore apparently...

they compare Jordan to Wilt, Lebron to Kareem, Magic to Kobe...

THEY keep telling me Lebron aint shit and got LUCKY to beat the Warriors, Curry riding KD coattails and KD is the next Jordan.

So who am I to argue?

 

[playahaitian]

Now that you mention it...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Brown_(basketball,_born_1970)#Head_coaching_record

Mike Brown as a head coach has only had one losing full season-- with the Cavs before Lebron came back.
His career win-loss percentage as a head coach is .616 and yes, he coached Lebron's Cavs to the Finals back when their second best player was Larry Hughes.

So...

you aint wrong.

But don't forget his Laker tenure though if you goggling.

 

[Mask]

Whenever Dahntay Jones is in the game take your guys out.

Man Lue should play him more...not for that reason tho...


If you can't play Fyre lebron needs to be a post player...use as many as wing players as you have too...


Go down fight using everybody

 

[Dontarius Dukes]

you aint wrong.

But don't forget his Laker tenure though if you goggling.

Oh, you mean taking the Lakers to a division title, then getting fired after a 1-4 start the next season?