Neil deGrasse Tyson sits down with actor Laurence Fishburne

[playahaitian]

It's funny to think that the Wachowski Sisters were once dudebros.

And Will probably missed an opportunity by not doing Matrix. It would've been a fitting way to end his 90s phase but, then again, it prolly would've been ass too.

But that's the thing we will NEVER KNOW.

We can't act like Will can't act or Keanu I'd the greatest either.

I think Will COULD have done it. But it would have been DIFFERENT which again doesn't mean BAD.

And I see the a lot of similarities actually and why the directors wanted Will.

And especially as a Black lead I would have loved that the potential success of a Black Matrix franchise would have been a huge benefit to Black Hollywood.

 

[Coldchi]

Good shit....

 

[keone]

Bro, I just thought of something. We've been talking about Will missing out on the Matrix, but it's my belief Larry Fishburne missed out on Wild Wild West.

Cowboy Curtis would've did numbers in that movie.

Im done with this negro love him but done.

@playahaitian saybsome something i know u bout to choose weed Henderson o sryy I meant puff Henderson side

 

[keone]

1, Matrix was a phenomenon. It was revolutionary and caught the world and movie industry by storm...... outside of the W sisters and their closest producer, I doubted anyone would have predicted how much that film would shift the culture. So Will's people were all probably like, nah man.... plus Johnny Mnumonic came out a few years earlier, and while not that similar it was still a forward thinking sci-fi tech movie, and did performed terribly...


2, not sure who his co-star would've been, even for Will Smith especially in the 90s as a love interest he couldn't be paired with a whole white woman and the studio wouldn't be able to "sell" it internationally a black woman.......eeeehh

3, Wild Wild West was a reboot of a popular TV series..... .Will probably knew the series and watched it as a kid, nostalgia effect probably helped seal that deal even if the script was ass

This ole professor ass negro someone come get him

@4 Dimensional u set me up?

 

[keone]

1, Matrix was a phenomenon. It was revolutionary and caught the world and movie industry by storm...... outside of the W sisters and their closest producer, I doubted anyone would have predicted how much that film would shift the culture. So Will's people were all probably like, nah man.... plus Johnny Mnumonic came out a few years earlier, and while not that similar it was still a forward thinking sci-fi tech movie, and did performed terribly...


2, not sure who his co-star would've been, even for Will Smith especially in the 90s as a love interest he couldn't be paired with a whole white woman and the studio wouldn't be able to "sell" it internationally a black woman.......eeeehh

3, Wild Wild West was a reboot of a popular TV series..... .Will probably knew the series and watched it as a kid, nostalgia effect probably helped seal that deal even if the script was ass.

Haha 3 and 2 i can answer. 2 was val kilmer and yeah reboot. Will was busy giving his sin tampons instead of willow

 

[Flawless]

1, Matrix was a phenomenon. It was revolutionary and caught the world and movie industry by storm...... outside of the W sisters and their closest producer, I doubted anyone would have predicted how much that film would shift the culture. So Will's people were all probably like, nah man.... plus Johnny Mnumonic came out a few years earlier, and while not that similar it was still a forward thinking sci-fi tech movie, and did performed terribly...


2, not sure who his co-star would've been, even for Will Smith especially in the 90s as a love interest he couldn't be paired with a whole white woman and the studio wouldn't be able to "sell" it internationally a black woman.......eeeehh

3, Wild Wild West was a reboot of a popular TV series..... .Will probably knew the series and watched it as a kid, nostalgia effect probably helped seal that deal even if the script was ass.

If they had gone with Will they probably would have used some mixed Halle Berry looking chic as his love interest and make Morpheus white.

 

[D24OHA]

Haha 3 and 2 i can answer. 2 was val kilmer and yeah reboot. Will was busy giving his sin tampons instead of willow

Come on mayne!

 

[World B Free]

Too bad Lord Jamar couldn't join them......

 

[D24OHA]

But that's the thing we will NEVER KNOW.

We can't act like Will can't act or Keanu I'd the greatest either.

I think Will COULD have done it. But it would have been DIFFERENT which again doesn't mean BAD.

And I see the a lot of similarities actually and why the directors wanted Will.

And especially as a Black lead I would have loved that the potential success of a Black Matrix franchise would have been a huge benefit to Black Hollywood.

Bruh, I'm with you.

I'm a Will fan! Independence Day came out and I was like oh yeah he's not the Fresh Prince anymore, this dude is a movie star now!

So he definitely could've done the role and well... but it'd be different. And different doesn't mean bad, AT ALL! Especially with Janet or maybe even Halle as Trinity.........eeeeek!

That shit would boost Black Hollywood fa sho, fa sho!!

 

[D24OHA]

What's really wild is..... give it like 10 years...... these actors will be licensing their NIL for AI movies

Hell, directors/ studios might even release AI variations of movies in 15 years. We may get a Will Smith / Bullock variation with their little ticks and choices versus the theatrical release

 

[playahaitian]

Im done with this negro love him but done.

@playahaitian saybsome something i know u bout to choose weed Henderson o sryy I meant puff Henderson side

Bro are you having a brain aneurysm?

I have no clue what you just typed?

Mods We gotta set up a well visit?

 

[playahaitian]

What's really wild is..... give it like 10 years...... these actors will be licensing their NIL for AI movies

Hell, directors/ studios might even release AI variations of movies in 15 years. We may get a Will Smith / Bullock variation with their little ticks and choices versus the theatrical release

Bookmarked

It's gonna be WILD.

 

[D24OHA]

Bookmarked

It's gonna be WILD.

Aye man, I'm in for Die Hard 7 with A.I. Bruce Willis!!

 

[Piff Henderson]

B pump mentioned it..actually didn't he say leopard booty

You know what, it could've been leopard booty.

 

[playahaitian]

Aye man, I'm in for Die Hard 7 with A.I. Bruce Willis!!

sidebar... would they reboot Die Hard?

Would the fan base act crazy like for Black Panther debating it?

Wouldn't it be CHEAPER to just recast?

 

[Piff Henderson]

sidebar... would they reboot Die Hard?

Would the fan base act crazy like for Black Panther debating it?

Wouldn't it be CHEAPER to just recast?

It definitely would be cheaper to recast. But even if it was CGI, it wouldn't be AI but human created images.

I think we're still years away from a fully AI-generated feature length film.

 

[playahaitian]

It definitely would be cheaper to recast. But even if it was CGI, it wouldn't be AI but human created images.

I think we're still years away from a fully AI-generated feature length film.

Agreed

 

[D24OHA]

sidebar... would they reboot Die Hard?

Would the fan base act crazy like for Black Panther debating it?

Wouldn't it be CHEAPER to just recast?

Would it be cheaper to recast?


Today, yes hands down.

10-15 yrs from now......?

Nah. Just think you'd basically pay someone to be a stunt double/ stand in.

You wouldn't hear them say any lines, you wouldn't see their face...... so for a young actor or stuntman just trying to get into the business ......it's a good look.

That Fast and Furious 7, Benjamin Button and Gemini Man CGI was groundbreaking. But severely labor intensive because they had to go frame by frame manually.

A.I. models now can generate 1080p video upto 10 minutes long, complete A.I. everything, backgrounds, actors, lines, accurate physics....

Can you imagine how easy it'll be if all you have to do is have an actor wearing a green mask and just train the AI to CGI that one face automatically? They already have A.I. voice tuners, word to Beanie Siegel......

Instead of $200 mil budgets, you're lead actor is getting paid scale, you're paying NIL of what $5 - $10 mil to Bruce's/ whoevers estate.......

And you're CGI / production budget is significantly cheaper because studios won't need 50 people teams to go frame by frame.

Terminator 9 with a mid 30s Arnold vs Van Damme or Stallone?!

Bruh, I can see it on the horizon...... shit will be wild AF because the studios already milk franchises for every last drop..... imagine if you can keep Will Smith pumping out a Bad Boys, Men in Black, Independence Day, Hancock, Irobot movie every/ every other year?

Or like Directors / studios putting out A.I. actor variants...... Vin Diesel or Arnold Schwarzenegger as Hulk?!

With A.I. those costs could be in the low 9 figures, with NIL..... Do direct to streamer agreements..... or limited theatrical runs then sell to streamers.....very low risk if the demand / hype is there.

 

[playahaitian]

Would it be cheaper to recast?


Today, yes hands down.

10-15 yrs from now......?

Nah. Just think you'd basically pay someone to be a stunt double/ stand in.

You wouldn't hear them say any lines, you wouldn't see their face...... so for a young actor or stuntman just trying to get into the business ......it's a good look.

That Fast and Furious 7, Benjamin Button and Gemini Man CGI was groundbreaking. But severely labor intensive because they had to go frame by frame manually.

A.I. models now can generate 1080p video upto 10 minutes long, complete A.I. everything, backgrounds, actors, lines, accurate physics....

Can you imagine how easy it'll be if all you have to do is have an actor wearing a green mask and just train the AI to CGI that one face automatically? They already have A.I. voice tuners, word to Beanie Siegel......

Instead of $200 mil budgets, you're lead actor is getting paid scale, you're paying NIL of what $5 - $10 mil to Bruce's/ whoevers estate.......

And you're CGI / production budget is significantly cheaper because studios won't need 50 people teams to go frame by frame.

Terminator 9 with a mid 30s Arnold vs Van Damme or Stallone?!

Bruh, I can see it on the horizon...... shit will be wild AF because the studios already milk franchises for every last drop..... imagine if you can keep Will Smith pumping out a Bad Boys, Men in Black, Independence Day, Hancock, Irobot movie every/ every other year?

Or like Directors / studios putting out A.I. actor variants...... Vin Diesel or Arnold Schwarzenegger as Hulk?!

With A.I. those costs could be in the low 9 figures, with NIL..... Do direct to streamer agreements..... or limited theatrical runs then sell to streamers.....very low risk if the demand / hype is there.

Holy sh*t

 

[Piff Henderson]

Would it be cheaper to recast?


Today, yes hands down.

10-15 yrs from now......?

Nah. Just think you'd basically pay someone to be a stunt double/ stand in.

You wouldn't hear them say any lines, you wouldn't see their face...... so for a young actor or stuntman just trying to get into the business ......it's a good look.

That Fast and Furious 7, Benjamin Button and Gemini Man CGI was groundbreaking. But severely labor intensive because they had to go frame by frame manually.

A.I. models now can generate 1080p video upto 10 minutes long, complete A.I. everything, backgrounds, actors, lines, accurate physics....

Can you imagine how easy it'll be if all you have to do is have an actor wearing a green mask and just train the AI to CGI that one face automatically? They already have A.I. voice tuners, word to Beanie Siegel......

Instead of $200 mil budgets, you're lead actor is getting paid scale, you're paying NIL of what $5 - $10 mil to Bruce's/ whoevers estate.......

And you're CGI / production budget is significantly cheaper because studios won't need 50 people teams to go frame by frame.

Terminator 9 with a mid 30s Arnold vs Van Damme or Stallone?!

Bruh, I can see it on the horizon...... shit will be wild AF because the studios already milk franchises for every last drop..... imagine if you can keep Will Smith pumping out a Bad Boys, Men in Black, Independence Day, Hancock, Irobot movie every/ every other year?

Or like Directors / studios putting out A.I. actor variants...... Vin Diesel or Arnold Schwarzenegger as Hulk?!

With A.I. those costs could be in the low 9 figures, with NIL..... Do direct to streamer agreements..... or limited theatrical runs then sell to streamers.....very low risk if the demand / hype is there.

I can see this for popcorn action at some point in the future. The art house and auteur films will never be algorithmically created like this.

I believe human creativity will never be replaced by AI.

 

[Walter Panov]

I like this. Will would have been too big of a movie star for The Matrix. It wouldn't have felt the same. He wouldn't have fit in. Similar to how it was better for the Marvel Universe to not have Edward Norton play the Hulk.

 

[Piff Henderson]

I like this. Will would have been too big of a movie star for The Matrix. It wouldn't have felt the same. He wouldn't have fit in. Similar to how it was better for the Marvel Universe to not have Edward Norton play the Hulk.

You mean not play the Hulk in subsequent films because he did play the Hulk in one film. I believe they made the right decision with Mark Ruffalo though.

 

[D24OHA]

I like this. Will would have been too big of a movie star for The Matrix. It wouldn't have felt the same. He wouldn't have fit in. Similar to how it was better for the Marvel Universe to not have Edward Norton play the Hulk.

The Matrix was released in 99, Will was coming off of ID4, Bad Boys and Men in Black leading up to 99, Wild Wild West was released in 99..... Ali was 2001

My point being he wasn't too big of a star by then

 

[Walter Panov]

The Matrix was released in 99, Will was coming off of ID4, Bad Boys and Men in Black leading up to 99, Wild Wild West was released in 99..... Ali was 2001

My point being he wasn't too big of a star by then

lol

 

[Walter Panov]

You mean not play the Hulk in subsequent films because he did play the Hulk in one film. I believe they made the right decision with Mark Ruffalo though.

Of course they did. Edward would have stolen every single scene he was in. It wouldn't have been about "the hulk" anymore.

 

[Piff Henderson]

Of course they did. Edward would have stolen every single scene he was in. It wouldn't have been about "the hulk" anymore.

So, it would've been about Banner instead of the Hulk? That was pretty much the case in both of the stand-alone Hulk films.

I like Norton, but I don't consider him a scene stealing actor by any means.