New Clues 9/11 AKA i better not see an AWW JEEZ NOT THIS....AGAIN pic!!

[Rythm]

Notice how people NEVER comment on the content of the information provided. I'm an editor, that shit is easily faked. I'm not saying it was but it could have been, especially when you have a long ass time to work on it.

But put the "no Plane" theory aside for a minute.

Still after seven years, there is no or very little plane wreakage, or body parts from 4 huge ass jet liners.

Supposedly 12 Arabs (they said 19 at first, but 7 have since been on television proving that they were alive and had nothing to do with the 9-11 events) from the Afghan mountains, were able to hijack 4 huge ass jetliners, breach the security of the worlds most high tech military defense system


not once

not twice

not three times

but 4 times in just a few hours, in the same day, flying those huge ass jet liners with such precision that our most modern flight simulators cannot reproduce the maneuvers without failing, while our air defense just happened to be on an air mission flying miles in the opposite direction, is one problem.

Then, 3 of new yorks tallest buildings fall into their own foot print (only 2 were supposedly struck by planes)because of fire from kerosene.
First time in history. Thats another problem.

Supposedly a 757 flew 500mph ( 2 football fields per second)less than 50 feet off the ground without nose diving, and put a hole in the Pentagon so small that the plane couldn't possibly fit through it.

The Pentagon has more than 80 tapes from the security cameras in the area that they won't release, and the one tape that they did release(the same one twice), barely shows an image, but the image that does show through has the shape and size of a military drone.

So basically IMO the only people that don't see a problem with this thing are the sheeple, and the enablers.

As far as I'm concerned, the last peace of the puzzle is what did they do with the people on the planes.

Good post OP, I have some other info on the "no plane" theory, yours is more thorough.

 

[KhowYunFat]

a big @ ppl making comments and not watching info provided

i understand if you dont have time then read the points i post (careful they do contain spoilers if you intend on watching them, if not skim them and if something catches your attention then watch)

also and please read this THIS IS NOT DEALING WITH THE WHOLE FALSE FLAG AND INCONSISTENCIES OF THE ARAB TERRORISTS PLOT

This is dealing with the PROOF of obvious doctoring of footage and audio from a technical standpoint the cat who did this put MAD effort and time into this, so check it out before bashin it.

Finally, to all if you watched more than the first part (which you should as it is interesting and new) all of your questions are answered, this is amassed LIVE FOOTAGE compared and contrasted to 'amateur' video as well as in depth look at authors of said 'amateur' footage

Part 5

- 17 second glitch in AUDIO exposed and explained

- Local newscasts blacked out during 9 11 explained (official explanation antennae knocked out live video shows antennae fully intact no visible damage also there are back ups on empire state building no reason given why those werent functional)

-Live audio at the time recorded from helicopter "GRADE 9 - Chopper 5, anybody on?" this was recorded live as anchors were talking and quickly they cut Chopper five obviously referring to a news copter GRade 9 is a US NAVY ranking of Master CHief Petty Officer"

-delves into use of different color scheme from supposed same shots
use of shadow edges shown and proved

[flash]http://www.youtube.com/watch/v/oIOfdAeMMxc[/flash]

 

[Rythm]

The antenna would effect the live feed but not the tape

 

[KhowYunFat]

If the plane didn't hit where the fuck has my friend been for the past 7 years? I believe that 9/11 was a conspiracy but this is going a little too far. I believe that the plane in western Pa was shot down by fighter jets, I'm still wondering where all the wreckage from the pentagon is and I do believe that the 2 towers were imploded. But this shit... I can't get on board with it. I know what his family went through and is still dealing with.

exactly you and the other posters on here who HAD FAMILY MEMBERS that witnessed the attacks are saying they either heard or seen the second plane...so what conspiracy theorists are they all goverment workers too?...stop with this conspiracy shit already...its 2008 ...its time to move on...we know that the government tried to cover some things up but whose to say this video on youtube of all places wasnt doctored up?

This video is not saying ppl were not on an airplane or airplanes weren't hijacked, what it is saying is that NO PLANES HIT THE TOWER, that Myth was PUSHED BY THE MEDIA and that ALL THE FOOTAGE (which didnt come from local media video footage that is) was doctored, it goes on to show the authors of all the famous amateur video are all dubiously connected to the multimedia field (as is the author of this vid) (one guy is a 3d renderer from canada) I dont want to sound disrespectful but i believe those ppl were taken and killed before shortly after takeoff.

I know people that were there who actually saw the second plane hit.

Also the Black Out happened because the Tower had that Antenna that broadcast all over NYC.

Sorry to burst your bubble again, but a girl I was seeing at the time SAW the plane hit the second tower. She lives in the Lower East Side very near the towers.

First off i from Jersey, that morning from my dorm on the way to class i could see the twin towers clear as shit. just for those who might think im some cat in a room who doesnt understand somehow cuz i wasnt there, that said i had a few friends ONE in particular who works in the tower who went to work that morning and we were frantic cuz we couldnt get in contact with her, all that said, she was there (not in building) and she said it was crazy but honestly didnt see a plane but at the same time she wasn't really looking.

As far as my bubble busting dont worry its not because most average ppl cant tell this

or this (bottom)

from an airplane when especially when they're blocks away and its coming in at 400+ mph (depending on who you listen to and im being liberal it was prolly at least 550 mph) bottomline is watch the whole vid and they let you hear actual witnesses and how varied the responses were from ppl on the day. Again no disrespect not saying either of you are lying just saying those are one of many testimonies

 

[EPDC]

The antenna would effect the live feed but not the tape

most of NYC tv stations transmitters were on the WTC. If your transmitter goes down, nothing is going over the air. just black.

 

[LookAtThatAss]

This shit is crazyyyyyyy, so WTF HAPPENED ?

 

[KhowYunFat]

most of NYC tv stations transmitters were on the WTC. If your transmitter goes down, nothing is going over the air. just black.

okay i get it you have selective reading, ill bold it just in case anyone else cares about the answer to that inquiry

 

[Rythm]

most of NYC tv stations transmitters were on the WTC. If your transmitter goes down, nothing is going over the air. just black.

I understand how it could affect the live feed, but why would that affect what goes down on tape?

 

[EPDC]

okay i get it you have selective reading, ill bold it just in case anyone else cares about the answer to that inquiry

i have worked as a TV broadcast Engineer since 2001. If those stations had backup transmitters on the Empire State, it would have taken sometime for those back-ups to kick in. Especially if they were using Harris Transmitters. A transmitter and an Antenna are not the same thing, they work in unison with each other. If your transmitter goes down, it does not matter how many back up antennas you have, you will be in black.

 

[KhowYunFat]

i have worked as a TV broadcast Engineer since 2001. If those stations had backup transmitters on the Empire State, it would have taken sometime for those back-ups to kick in. Especially if they were using Harris Transmitters. A transmitter and an Antenna are not the same thing, they work in unison with each other. If your transmitter goes down, it does not matter how many back up antennas you have, you will be in black.

if that is so i stand corrected, however i would need you or someone else so inclined to explain how the transmitter went down, as damage seemed to be localized at the time

 

[EPDC]

if that is so i stand corrected, however i would need you or someone else so inclined to explain how the transmitter went down, as damage seemed to be localized at the time

As i already stated, many of NYC TV stations had their transmitters in the Towers. Once the towers were hit, it was a wrap until they could get their back up up and running. here's a little info:
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_hb5053/is_200109/ai_n18379098?tag=content;col1

edit:
just from WABC's wiki page
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WABC-TV

On September 11, 2001, the transmitter facilities of WABC-TV, as well as eight other local television stations and several radio stations, were destroyed when two hijacked airplanes crashed into and destroyed the World Trade Center towers. In the immediate aftermath, WABC-TV fed its signal to several UHF stations that were still broadcasting (notably WNYE-TV), before establishing temporary facilities in Alpine, New Jersey. The station eventually established transmission facilities at the Empire State Building.

 

[KhowYunFat]

As i already stated, many of NYC TV stations had their transmitters in the Towers. Once the towers were hit, it was a wrap until they could get their back up up and running. here's a little info:
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_hb5053/is_200109/ai_n18379098?tag=content;col1

unfortunately i couldnt read the full article, however what im saying or rather asking is how could the transmitter be down but the antennae be intact, moreover whats the point of having back ups on the empire state building that cant be used, and finally how does all this disprove the facts of obvious audio and video doctoring, from the use of cymbal crash reversed for one sound effect from one of the more famous of the 'amateur' vids to the use of fully visible mask edges!?!?!

 

[bborn]

peace

Good Info and Find KYF as have BEEN turned that shit off;
That kat made his point and felt so confident that he's clowning @ him with his tragically fucked up tongue in cheek irony.

Once again, the only people who really know what happen are the ones that are responsible and those who still have access to EVIDENCE
(dna, that thick ass pyroclastic type dust that filled the air and many lungs and actual plain wreckage pieces which seemed to have dissapeared into that dust and shipped away for big bid $$).

Some things to also think about.

We've witnessed an excercise @ this price
Bless the Dead
May be a lil too sad for all that know it all
[FLASH]http://www.youtube.com/v/PryDPZsGSqw[/FLASH]


This kat from Canada who has apparently been doing his own research who also apparently called that kat on the helicopter also
[FLASH]http://www.youtube.com/v/lxr_zxN7xRc[/FLASH]


Good Luck on anyones research


peace

 

[EPDC]

unfortunately i couldnt read the full article, however what im saying or rather asking is how could the transmitter be down but the antennae be intact, moreover whats the point of having back ups on the empire state building that cant be used, and finally how does all this disprove the facts of obvious audio and video doctoring, from the use of cymbal crash reversed for one sound effect from one of the more famous of the 'amateur' vids to the use of fully visible mask edges!?!?!

the transmitters were not on the roof of the towers. Once the planes hit, I am assuming there was massive power loss through out the towers causing the transmitters to go down.

Again, as I previously posted, it takes a while for the back-up transmitters to kick in. In WABC's case they fed their signal to WNYE for air.

Are you sure this footage on Youtube isn't already doctored? Do you have the Original live to air footage? How are you so sure the person's who posted/edited this video together didn't doctor the original live to air footage? In this day and age, anything could be doctored. They put Tom Hanks in a scene with JFK in Forrest Gump. Anything can be faked, even conspiracy proving videos on youtube.

 

[Rythm]

peace

Good Info and Find KYF as have BEEN turned that shit off;
That kat made his point and felt so confident that he's clowning @ him with his tragically fucked up tongue in cheek irony.

Once again, the only people who really know what happen are the ones that are responsible and those who still have access to EVIDENCE
(dna, that thick ass pyroclastic type dust that filled the air and many lungs and actual plain wreckage pieces which seemed to have dissapeared into that dust and shipped away for big bid $$).

Some things to also think about.

We've witnessed an excercise @ this price
Bless the Dead
May be a lil too sad for all that know it all



Good Luck on anyones research


peace

Good post BBorn, I never saw the 2nd vid before..I can not watch the first vid alll the way through...it's terrible.

 

[KhowYunFat]

this is interesting...

And please note that all things need to be questioned. Dont be a part of the flock of sheep....question things for yourself and dont denounce because it goes against the masses.

Think

PREACH!

THATS THE DUMBEST SHIT I EVER HEARD IN MY LIFE SO CAUSE PEOPLE LOST THERE LIVES THE TRUTH OF HOW THEY LOST THEM SHOULDN'T BE QUESTIONED GTFOH!!!!

PREACH!

Good post OP, I have some other info on the "no plane" theory, yours is more thorough.

thanks man you brought up many good points i just didnt want to have a big ass response but i agree this opens many eyes i 95% agree with the ideas presented here, and also have my own in terms of what exactly happened to the original planes

 

[KhowYunFat]

peace

Good Info and Find KYF as have BEEN turned that shit off;
That kat made his point and felt so confident that he's clowning @ him with his tragically fucked up tongue in cheek irony.

Once again, the only people who really know what happen are the ones that are responsible and those who still have access to EVIDENCE
(dna, that thick ass pyroclastic type dust that filled the air and many lungs and actual plain wreckage pieces which seemed to have dissapeared into that dust and shipped away for big bid $$).

Some things to also think about.

We've witnessed an excercise @ this price
Bless the Dead
May be a lil too sad for all that know it all


This kat from Canada who has apparently been doing his own research who also apparently called that kat on the helicopter also



Good Luck on anyones research


peace

Peace BBorn thanks for checkin out this thread as your insight is valued, and i wasn't privy to either of the two vids you posted thanks for the assist

i was just a little confused by the part i bolded though the first two sentences

 

[rolagil]

This is a bunch of BullShit.......

 

[bborn]

peace

Peace BBorn thanks for checkin out this thread as your insight is valued, and I wasn't privy to either of the two vids you posted thanks for the assist

I was just a little confused by the part i bolded though the first two sentences

PardonSelf.
Was speaking on His names and labels he came up with to distinguish that some of these questionable events are taken on face value and not questioned, properly analyzed or even deeply researched past what's been told or 'seen' during the traumatic tradjedy;
not just the names ("Roadrunner plane", image of batman and robin as terrorist) but how he presented them to drive his point home within his production.

Plus, the final words he put up towards the end of the production are urging the people to "Trun it Off", to stop just believing what they tell you and how they package it as I was just responding to his message in geneeral.
That's it.

Give Thanks KYF
Interesting food for thought


peace

 

[NinjaspiT]

then what happened to the people that supposedly died in the plane crashes?Were they fake

 

[Tazirai]

good drop

 

[KhowYunFat]

then what happened to the people that supposedly died in the plane crashes?Were they fake

no no they were not fake IMO they were killed used the government took those planes albeit shortly after takeoff or whateva and used them as the reason for this war on terror they would be dead......murdered....

 

[havana]

Because of that event my life was pretty much ruined for a period of time...fuck this thread and it's starter.

 

[KhowYunFat]

Because of that event my life was pretty much ruined for a period of time...fuck this thread and it's starter.

because of assholes like you who wallow and throw pity parties the life of my people, my community is fucked up, i would say fuck you, but i got better things to do to help me and mine!

 

[darkninja7000]

Because of that event my life was pretty much ruined for a period of time...fuck this thread and it's starter.

no nigga... FUCK you! the truth needs to come out so that those who lost their lives to the conspiracy set forth by our gov't can finally rest in peace. i don't know why people question this but they go with the gov't full steam ahead.

also this wouldn't be the first time that the gov't did something like this. back in 41 they did the same thing to enter wwii. they forced japan into attacking them by stopping trades with them and forcing other nations into doing the same.They basically isolated Japan during the war forcing them to attack pearl harbor. these niggaz is fukkin heartless and greedy. all that just so they could enter the war..... and make billions.

 

[futureshock]

Part III



-plane is dark when the 9 o'clock sunlight clearly illuminates buildings


[flash]http://www.youtube.com/watch/v/2iIQ3dcBvW0&feature=related[/flash]

yep. i was looking at it like why does the plane look so dark, when everything around it is lit up due to early morning sunlight? and IF a plane hits a steel building, some parts of the plane should have been flung into lower manhattan in the early timeline of the events that were unfolding. emergency crews should have gotten calls indicating that the plane's nose or wings or something fell somewhere on the streets below. yeah i know that they found wallets or passports and paperwork from people on the flight....BUT WHERE WAS THE HEAVY DEBRIS?

good stuff. now i gotta go back and look at my tapes too.

 

[KhowYunFat]

no nigga... FUCK you! the truth needs to come out so that those who lost their lives to the conspiracy set forth by our gov't can finally rest in peace. i don't know why people question this but they go with the gov't full steam ahead.

also this wouldn't be the first time that the gov't did something like this. back in 41 they did the same thing to enter wwii. they forced japan into attacking them by stopping trades with them and forcing other nations into doing the same.They basically isolated Japan during the war forcing them to attack pearl harbor. these niggaz is fukkin heartless and greedy. all that just so they could enter the war..... and make billions.

preaching to cats who dont wanna hear the truth is useless

i mean just read what this cat is saying: 9 11 RUINED HIS LIFE really sorry it was such a downer for YOU sorry to offend YOU and YOUR TRAGEDY all that and then he says FUCK ME and this thread all the effort someone with no gain put into making this documentary all the time to edit and point out stuff that none of us would have necessarily been able to see or put together

what a jackass havanna is

 

[master-ceo]

Fuck all this government conspiracy shit. This was straight up terroism. The only conspiracy was among those 15 who carried out the attack and those who funded them. All of this destruction and disruption for what? Nigga please.

 

[LennyNero1972]

Dude, one of my best friends was the pilot on the 2nd plane to hit the tower. As much as I believe that the gub'ment is lying about 9/11, that video is bullshit.

Why do niggas lie?

 

[KhowYunFat]

good drop

thanks

 

[bgque12]

Why do niggas lie?

Fuck you pussy!!!!! I carry his pic in my wallet every damn day since his memorial service!!!!!!!!!! You can kiss my ass! I have know Michael Horrocks since we were in jr high school together. We played football with each other until he transferred to Milton Hershey High school and against each other in college when he was at West Chester and I played for Cheyney!!!!!!!!! SO FUCK YOU FOR CALLING ME A LIAR ABOUT SOME SHIT AS IMPORTANT AS THIS IS TO ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[KhowYunFat]

.....FOR CALLING ME A LIAR ABOUT SOME SHIT AS IMPORTANT AS THIS IS TO ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!![/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT]

dude if what you say is true (and im not doubting it is) you dont have to prove it to anyone, your point was made like i said to every poster who took issue with this thread because they felt a loss (some more personal than others) this thread is to expose the truth of events...terrrible events at play...its your right to disagree with what is presented but you dont have to get into an argument with ppl if anyone doesnt believe so what.....


part 6

-live videos were done not to be replayed whereas the amateur video was!

-jasm winged missle is proposed and the question of would a casual observer know the difference if in fact they saw one very quickly (assuming ppl werent just watching when the first one striked and didnt expect the second one to strike)

-there was no deceleration upon impact of plane into tower in film it just goes in and explodes not even a bit (frame by frame)

- authors are examined (exposed?) amongst them a 3d animator from Canada (can you really trust Canadians), a creative programing film editor, etc.

- the Hezarkhani shot (aka the coolest cameraman ever) is examined. The gist he was focused on a tight shot of the towers when he would have asssumely heard the jet approaching from over his shoulder and instead of turning to look just slowly pans out as it strikes the tower perfectly center for his shot.

- evidence of multiple charges going off after plane hits the building are outlined (review for yourself and tell me what if not charges you think it is)

- further examination of authors of 'amateur' films shown to all have been in multimedia field

-overlap of three different films of same shot show different color contrasts and are identically shot. so called amatuer vid shown years later shown to be old shot with added anomalies.

[flash]http://www.youtube.com/watch/v/V_iKnwZ2Fq4[/flash]

 

[bgque12]

dude if what you say is true (and im not doubting it is) you dont have to prove it to anyone, your point was made like i said to every poster who took issue with this thread because they felt a loss (some more personal than others) this thread is to expose the truth of events...terrrible events at play...its your right to disagree with what is presented but you dont have to get into an argument with ppl if anyone doesnt believe so what.....


part 6

-live videos were done not to be replayed whereas the amateur video was!

-jasm winged missle is proposed and the question of would a casual observer know the difference if in fact they saw one very quickly (assuming ppl werent just watching when the first one striked and didnt expect the second one to strike)

-there was no deceleration upon impact of plane into tower in film it just goes in and explodes not even a bit (frame by frame)

- authors are examined (exposed?) amongst them a 3d animator from Canada (can you really trust Canadians), a creative programing film editor, etc.

- the Hezarkhani shot (aka the coolest cameraman ever) is examined. The gist he was focused on a tight shot of the towers when he would have asssumely heard the jet approaching from over his shoulder and instead of turning to look just slowly pans out as it strikes the tower perfectly center for his shot.

- evidence of multiple charges going off after plane hits the building are outlined (review for yourself and tell me what if not charges you think it is)

- further examination of authors of 'amateur' films shown to all have been in multimedia field

-overlap of three different films of same shot show different color contrasts and are identically shot. so called amatuer vid shown years later shown to be old shot with added anomalies.

[flash]http://www.youtube.com/watch/v/V_iKnwZ2Fq4[/flash]

Cool, man. I just get caught up over this issue. Not just because my friend died but because I don't think the gub'ment hasn't been totally forthcoming.

 

[KhowYunFat]

Cool, man. I just get caught up over this issue. Not just because my friend died but because I don't think the gub'ment has been totally forthcoming.

i understand its a travesty but you must focus those feelings to something other than lashing even when your lashing out is justified, basically the point is they want you to be controlled by your emotions totally, they want to hide behind the fact that too much digging is 'disgraceful to the dead' its like that movie american gangster, if the army guy had his way, russel crowe wouldnt have been able to look into the caskets, it wasnt that the army guy was wrong for objecting to crowes attempt because in his mind those boys died for their country and the act was defiling, but crowe who knew the truth (or had a hunch of it) knew that the more HEINOUS act was being perpetrated and so he did what at surface level seemed disrespectful to the dead, but in the end got the true culprits that were disrespecting the dead

 

[KhowYunFat]

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