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[Simply Sickenin']

Where did all the Kyrie bushing come from?

I think the only issue with Kyrie is that he already achieved his goals. His goal as a player was to win a chip and he did that. And it wasn't like he rode the wave to the chip. As much as Lebron willed them to that game 7. It was Kyrie's 3 in the closing second that really sealed that game up.

So he won his ring. Now all he wants to do is enjoy playing the game without all the media bullshit. I can't fault him for that. And fake fans who cheer and 'worship' you one season then burn your jersey and boo you the next season for joining a different team. I can't fault him for not being okay with that bullshit either.

Some players want to be regarded as one of the greatest to ever play the game. Others just want to play ball, have fun, and provide for their family. Kyrie is clearly in the second group. And the media wants him to be in the first group.

Let that man live.

 

[Simply Sickenin']

Melo playing good isn't news I guess...they'll rather tear dude down

Melo played great last night. And he looks like he's starting to have a good time being back in the league. I'm happy for him. I hope the Blazers can turn it already and make another deep playoff run. At least the second round. I doubt they're making to the WCF again.

This video is really good breakdown of how Melo is fitting into the Blazers' system and the modern NBA in general.


On a side note, those white rip city jerseys they were wearing last night are clean a.f. for real.

 

[spider705]

I don't know who you hate. I just said the dog was absolutely a shot at LeBron and NOT just a comment about you liking MJ.

Also, saying Hardens game is gimmick based and he flops in the post season isn't about hate. Its just fact. Sorry.

You say it's a gimmick but most coaches and peers feel he's the most difficult player in today's NBA to guard.

But hey I'll take your opinion over theirs

 

[Amajorfucup]

You say it's a gimmick but most coaches and peers feel he's the most difficult player in today's NBA to guard.

But hey I'll take your opinion over theirs

Yes. That's kinda my point. Its difficult to guard not because hes unstoppable as a force but because hes mastered tactics of drawing fouls and getting whistles off contact and perceived contact. Gimmick.

And again, when the whistle blows different in the postseason he's left unarmed and inadequate.

No hate bro. Just observation.

 

[spider705]

Yes. That's kinda my point. Its difficult to guard not because hes unstoppable as a force but because hes mastered tactics of drawing fouls and getting whistles off contact and perceived contact. Gimmick.

And again, when the whistle blows different in the postseason he's left unarmed and inadequate.

No hate bro. Just observation.

Ok guy...

 

[REDLINE]

Yes. That's kinda my point. Its difficult to guard not because hes unstoppable as a force but because hes mastered tactics of drawing fouls and getting whistles off contact and perceived contact. Gimmick.

And again, when the whistle blows different in the postseason he's left unarmed and inadequate.

No hate bro. Just observation.

Bingo!

Yes he’s a good shooter, yes he’s a good ball handler. But he’s mastered driving to the basket getting into the defenders personal space smearing his body on theirs forcing refs to call a foul.

He’s difficult to guard because players “Have to” play defense, but are scared to get close to him and play actual defense because he’ll somehow throw his body against theirs forcing a foul call.

And yes many defenders do foolishly reach fouling him, but Harden’s a master at creating contact.

 

[REDLINE]

Where did all the Kyrie bushing come from?

I think the only issue with Kyrie is that he already achieved his goals. His goal as a player was to win a chip and he did that. And it wasn't like he rode the wave to the chip. As much as Lebron willed them to that game 7. It was Kyrie's 3 in the closing second that really sealed that game up.

So he won his ring. Now all he wants to do is enjoy playing the game without all the media bullshit. I can't fault him for that. And fake fans who cheer and 'worship' you one season then burn your jersey and boo you the next season for joining a different team. I can't fault him for not being okay with that bullshit either.

Some players want to be regarded as one of the greatest to ever play the game. Others just want to play ball, have fun, and provide for their family. Kyrie is clearly in the second group. And the media wants him to be in the first group.

Let that man live.

Just stop, the Celtics and the Nets perform better without him.

The Cavs had issues with him because of his bitchassness. All of these accusations and reports don’t come out of thin air.

He was in Cleveland barely winning 20 games a year until Lebron came back. Once Lebron’s there, they go to the Finals for years straight. Yes Kyrie was a part of that, yes Kyrie was an offensive threat and hit the big shot in the Finals.

Kyrie got tired of playing second fiddle wanting to get out of Lebron’s shadow so he asked to be traded. Once traded, teammates witness his bitchassness and don’t like playing with him. They perform better without him.

He promises the fans that he’ll resign with the Celtics, he doesn’t resign. He has his reasons. Then he writes a moist Instagram post after the fans boo him.

Fans can be shitty though.

 

[spider705]

Bingo!

Yes he’s a good shooter, yes he’s a good ball handler. But he’s mastered driving to the basket getting into the defenders personal space smearing his body on theirs forcing refs to call a foul.

He’s difficult to guard because players “Have to” play defense, but are scared to get close to him and play actual defense because he’ll somehow throw his body against theirs forcing a foul call.

And yes many defenders do foolishly reach fouling him, but Harden’s a master at creating contact.

Wait... I'm confused

Is this post supposed to be trashing Harden? Because it's really not...

 

[REDLINE]

Wait... I'm confused

Is this post supposed to be trashing Harden? Because it's really not...

You’re confused because you expected me to “Trash“ Harden which I’m not.

I simply explained why he’s hard to guard.

 

[spider705]

You’re confused because you expected me to “Trash“ Harden which I’m not.

I simply explained why he’s hard to guard.

No no I agree with what you wrote and to me the things you said are good things...

Im just confused as to why @Amajorfucup likes a post that is giving Harden props

 

[Amajorfucup]

Im just confused

We finally agree.

 

[REDLINE]

No no I agree with what you wrote and to me the things you said are good things...

Im just confused as to why @Amajorfucup likes a post that is giving Harden props

Gotcha!

It’s because I basically said what he said, just broke his skills down more specifying on exactly why he’s so hard to guard.

 

[spider705]

We finally agree.

You're a closet James Harden fan.
All good.

 

[spider705]

Gotcha!

It’s because I basically said what he said, just broke his skills down more specifying on exactly why he’s so hard to guard.

To me those are qualities a star NBA player should have... Harden gets a bad rap on the defensive side but honestly he's only bad off ball... he just don't pay attention to his man unless he has the ball...

The fact that he doesn't get the same calls in the playoffs is more an indictment against the NBA and its referees than it is against him. A foul is a foul whether it happens in a December regular season game or a June playoff game

 

[REDLINE]

To me those are qualities a star NBA player should have... Harden gets a bad rap on the defensive side but honestly he's only bad off ball... he just don't pay attention to his man unless he has the ball...

The fact that he doesn't get the same calls in the playoffs is more an indictment against the NBA and its referees than it is against him. A foul is a foul whether it happens in a December regular season game or a June playoff game

I agree, a foul is a foul. If you’re gonna call those bs fouls in the regular season, then you should call the same bs fouls in the playoffs. There should be no difference, basketball is basketball.

The refs and their calls are horrible though.

Harden does get a bad rap on defense, most players aren’t locking up anyone but he’s been caught out there not trying a couple of times.

 

[Simply Sickenin']

To me those are qualities a star NBA player should have... Harden gets a bad rap on the defensive side but honestly he's only bad off ball... he just don't pay attention to his man unless he has the ball...

The fact that he doesn't get the same calls in the playoffs is more an indictment against the NBA and its referees than it is against him. A foul is a foul whether it happens in a December regular season game or a June playoff game

100% cosign
Harden's defense has gotten much better over the last 2 seasons. His biggest struggle is off the ball, but that's honestly true for like 6 out of 10 players. Harden just gets criticized for it more than others. And a foul is a foul is a foul. It shouldn't change based on the calendar.

 

[Llano]

And yes many defenders do foolishly reach fouling him, but Harden’s a master at creating contact.

So why fault him for that when the objective is to put defenders in vulnerable spots & score?

Other players would do exactly what Harden could do if they could master creating contact like him.

 

[Mask]

Friday’s Schedule

Date	Away Team	Home Team
Nov. 29 at 12:00 PM	Boston	Brooklyn
Nov. 29 at 7:00 PM	Charlotte	Detroit
Nov. 29 at 7:00 PM	Toronto	Orlando
Nov. 29 at 7:30 PM	Philadelphia	New York
Nov. 29 at 7:30 PM	Milwaukee	Cleveland
Nov. 29 at 8:00 PM	Golden State	Miami
Nov. 29 at 8:00 PM	Atlanta	Indiana
Nov. 29 at 8:00 PM	New Orleans	Oklahoma City
Nov. 29 at 8:00 PM	Utah	Memphis
Nov. 29 at 8:30 PM	L.A. Clippers	San Antonio
Nov. 29 at 9:00 PM	Dallas	Phoenix
Nov. 29 at 10:00 PM	Chicago	Portland
Nov. 29 at 10:30 PM	Washington	L.A. Lakers

 

[REDLINE]

So why fault him for that when the objective is to put defenders in vulnerable spots & score?

Other players would do exactly what Harden could do if they could master creating contact like him.

Not faulting him, that’s just not “Basketball”.

Him throwing his body/arms into a defender to create contact isn’t basketball. But refs call it a fouls and that’s the issue.

 

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[Llano]

Not faulting him, that’s just not “Basketball”.

Him throwing his body/arms into a defender to create contact isn’t basketball. But refs call it a fouls and that’s the issue.

Refs call it because it is a foul, they grabbing arms not the ball

 

[M.H.C.]

They need to be able to flex Nationally Televised games after the start of the season. Nuggets-Lakers(top 2 teams in the West)on December 3rd will only be local while the Zion-less Pelicans about to get worked by Great White Hope Luka on TNT.

 

[Mask]

man if you haven’t been able to see Lakers play yet, please do so...
That shit was masterful....

Im try to catch the clippers next

 

[REDLINE]

Refs call it because it is a foul, they grabbing arms not the ball

He causes, initiates and forces the contact. Those aren't fouls.

Yes when they reach and grab his arms those are fouls, but that's not what I'm talking about.

They need to be able to flex Nationally Televised games after the start of the season. Nuggets-Lakers(top 2 teams in the West)on December 3rd will only be local while the Zion-less Pelicans about to get worked by Great White Hope Luka on TNT.

I've been saying the same thing for a minute, I'm tired of seeing the Pelicans and the fucking Warriors on national TV!

 

[therealjondoe]

 

[jack walsh13]

Sixers finally telling Embiid stay yo big ass down low!!!! Everything comes so much easier on offense that way

 

[jack walsh13]

They need to be able to flex Nationally Televised games after the start of the season. Nuggets-Lakers(top 2 teams in the West)on December 3rd will only be local while the Zion-less Pelicans about to get worked by Great White Hope Luka on TNT.

They do switch them sometimes.

 

[jack walsh13]

Man what the fuck happened to the Hawks?

 

[Mask]

Man what the fuck happened to the Hawks?

They really don’t have much

 

[jack walsh13]

They really don’t have much

Started out hot though.

 

[M.H.C.]

How y'all feeling about Melo? Dope as hell to see him out there. Wish the Blazers had a better record....but then again I don't lol

 

[REDLINE]

How y'all feeling about Melo? Dope as hell to see him out there. Wish the Blazers had a better record....but then again I don't lol

I’m happy to see him out there doing good!

 

[Rembrandt Brown]

Of course KD’s Warriors stay will be remembered, but he isn’t remembered as a “True” Warriors players. He even said he didn’t feel like a “True” Warrior but you can argue that fact with yourself.

There's no such thing as "KD's Warriors." Never was. That's why he left.

 

[Rembrandt Brown]

Where did all the Kyrie bushing come from?

I think the only issue with Kyrie is that he already achieved his goals. His goal as a player was to win a chip and he did that. And it wasn't like he rode the wave to the chip. As much as Lebron willed them to that game 7. It was Kyrie's 3 in the closing second that really sealed that game up.

So he won his ring. Now all he wants to do is enjoy playing the game without all the media bullshit. I can't fault him for that. And fake fans who cheer and 'worship' you one season then burn your jersey and boo you the next season for joining a different team. I can't fault him for not being okay with that bullshit either.

Some players want to be regarded as one of the greatest to ever play the game. Others just want to play ball, have fun, and provide for their family. Kyrie is clearly in the second group. And the media wants him to be in the first group.

Let that man live.

Where are you getting that his career goal was to win one championship?

If that's true, one of the many issues with Kyrie is that he sold himself short with weak aspirations. (One of my favorite moments in NBA history was Kobe admitting that #5 was meaningful to him because it gave him "one more than Shaq." You'd think wannabe Lil Mamba would want to win 4 and outdo LeBron.)

But I don't think it's true that he fulfilled his goal by winning one. I think the record shows that he wants to actually lead a team to a title.