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D24OHA

D24OHA

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Costanza said:
@MrTaharqa

Scoring​

  • Michael Jordan:
    • Career PPG (through age 40): 30.1
    • Peak season: 37.1 PPG (1987)
    • Mid-range assassin, elite footwork, deadly in isolation, post-game, and transition.
    • Career 49.7% FG, 32.7% 3PT, 83.5% FT.
  • LeBron James:
    • Career PPG (through age 40): 27.1
    • Peak season: 31.4 PPG (2006)
    • Dominates with size, speed, and finishing at the rim. Improved mid-range and three-point shooting in later years.
    • Career 50.5% FG, 34.8% 3PT, 73.5% FT.
  • EDGE: Michael Jordan (More dominant and versatile scorer)

Efficiency​

  • Jordan:
    • True Shooting %: 56.9%
    • Effective FG%: 50.9%
    • Took a high volume of tough mid-range shots but converted them at an elite rate.
  • LeBron:
    • True Shooting %: 58.7%
    • Effective FG%: 54.5%
    • Higher FG% due to elite finishing at the rim.
  • EDGE: LeBron James (More efficient overall, but Jordan’s efficiency was elite for his era)

Playmaking & Passing​

  • Jordan:
    • Career APG: 5.3
    • Great passer, but primarily a scorer.
    • Made the right plays but not a pass-first player.
  • LeBron:
    • Career APG: 7.4
    • Elite playmaker, functions as a point-forward.
    • One of the best passers in NBA history.
  • EDGE: LeBron James (Superior playmaker and facilitator)

Rebounding​

  • Jordan:
    • Career RPG: 6.2
    • Great rebounder for a guard, but not dominant.
  • LeBron:
    • Career RPG: 7.5
    • Excellent rebounder for a forward.
  • EDGE: LeBron James (Bigger, stronger, more dominant on the glass)

Defense​

  • Jordan:
    • 9× All-Defensive Team, DPOY (1988)
    • Lockdown perimeter defender, elite on-ball and off-ball.
    • Career 2.3 SPG, 0.8 BPG.
  • LeBron:
    • 6× All-Defensive Team, no DPOY.
    • Great defender at his peak but has taken plays off in later years.
    • Career 1.5 SPG, 0.8 BPG.
  • EDGE: Michael Jordan (Superior defender, more consistent effort)

Clutch Play & Leadership​

  • Jordan:
    • 6× NBA Champion (6–0 in the Finals, 6× Finals MVP).
    • One of the greatest clutch performers in history.
    • Took and made big shots under pressure.
  • LeBron:
    • 4× NBA Champion (4–6 in the Finals, 4× Finals MVP).
    • Clutch in different ways, often makes the right basketball play rather than taking the last shot.
    • Has had some high-profile clutch moments but also some failures.
  • EDGE: Michael Jordan (Better in big moments, undefeated in the Finals)

Championship Impact & Legacy​

  • Jordan:
    • 6× NBA Champion, 6× Finals MVP.
    • Defined the 90s, globalized the NBA.
    • Retired twice, dominated every full season he played.
  • LeBron:
    • 4× NBA Champion, 4× Finals MVP.
    • Unprecedented longevity, still playing at an elite level at age 40.
    • Changed player empowerment and team-building in the modern era.
  • EDGE: Michael Jordan (More dominant peak, perfect Finals record)

Conclusion​

  • Jordan was better at:
    • Scoring (More dominant and clutch)
    • Defense (More consistent, won DPOY)
    • Clutch Play (6–0 in Finals, more feared in big moments)
  • LeBron was better at:
    • Playmaking (Elite facilitator, best passing forward ever)
    • Rebounding (Bigger, stronger, more effective on the glass)
    • Longevity (Still elite at an unprecedented age)
Overall EDGE: Michael Jordan (Higher peak, better Finals success, and greater two-way dominance)
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Some context is missing. Lebron stayed healthy longer, one part is due to his dedication to his craft and spending $$$ each year on diet, stretching/massages, hyperbolic air / cryo-freeze sessions....etc

You got X more games of dominant play out of Lebron than MJ, which is why Lebron is the all time leading scorer, ranks higher in all time assists and rebounds.... I have to check steals/ blocks..... but those first 3 metrics make for a better teammate
 
KingTaharqa

KingTaharqa

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D24OHA said:
Some context is missing. Lebron stayed healthy longer, one part is due to his dedication to his craft and spending $$$ each year on diet, stretching/massages, hyperbolic air / cryo-freeze sessions....etc

You got X more games of dominant play out of Lebron than MJ, which is why Lebron is the all time leading scorer, ranks higher in all time assists and rebounds.... I have to check steals/ blocks..... but those first 3 metrics make for a better teammate
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Not to mention we can't take Jordan's stats at face value anymore after last year's score keeper admission and scandal. Jordan is now one of the most overrated athletes of all time relative to his true rank and nonstop favorable coverage he gets almost 30 years from his championship days
 
Costanza

Costanza

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D24OHA said:
Some context is missing. Lebron stayed healthy longer, one part is due to his dedication to his craft and spending $$$ each year on diet, stretching/massages, hyperbolic air / cryo-freeze sessions....etc

You got X more games of dominant play out of Lebron than MJ, which is why Lebron is the all time leading scorer, ranks higher in all time assists and rebounds.... I have to check steals/ blocks..... but those first 3 metrics make for a better teammate
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To be fair, LeBron was credited with "Unprecedented longevity" as part of his legacy, so I think staying healthy longer and being able to pad those career stat numbers is a part of that and that context was not missing. You could certainly argue it wasn't emphasized enough, though.

I personally think it is amazing but LeBron can play until he's 50 and unless he somehow surpasses his previous peak, he's not touching Jordan's and therefore not winning that comparison IMO. Just a difference in perspectives.
 
REDLINE

REDLINE

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Hey @playahaitian

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Do you see what happens when they give up on "Load Management" and do what actually needs to be done so that a player can recover?




Yes, Embiid didn't need to play this entire season but he tried. Tried for himself, the team and the fans. Knowing damn well he was never truly ready to play an actual NBA season.

But he tried and gave it his best effort, just like Kawhi.
 
Big Tex

Big Tex

Earth is round..gravity is real
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REDLINE said:
What happened to Sengun? He was solid and got guaranteed solid numbers earlier this season.

Now it's a crapshoot with him.
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He's missing a lot of shots. He's at 53% true shooting on the season which is terrible for a big man.

But truthfully, a lot of those shot are touch shots. He's getting a lot of attention, but he has to shoot better.
 
KingTaharqa

KingTaharqa

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DC_Dude said:
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Bron says the media should've promoted Steph Curry more today instead of hyper focusing on him.

He's spent the last 10 years pandering to and ass kissing Steph in hopes Team Light Skin and Dubs fans would accept him. But it hasnt worked. His skin tone didnt change, so their behavior towards him doesnt either. It doesnt matter how much he boosts Steph or tries to act like he's in awe of him, Bron you will ALWAYS be a nigga and subhuman to Dubs fans. They are racist and colorist and dont like Black people that cant pass as white or racially ambigious. I'd rather you promote another player who's fans are more progressive and who dont constantly want to troll your fans just for celebrating you or who go out of their way to ignore your greatness, so they can promote some poorer lesser nigga that sells less tickets and jerseys than you. Fuck Steph and the Warriors!!!
 
playahaitian

playahaitian

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REDLINE said:
Hey @playahaitian

le-bron-raymone-james-sr-le-bron-james.gif


Do you see what happens when they give up on "Load Management" and do what actually needs to be done so that a player can recover?




Yes, Embiid didn't need to play this entire season but he tried. Tried for himself, the team and the fans. Knowing damn well he was never truly ready to play an actual NBA season.

But he tried and gave it his best effort, just like Kawhi.
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^^^^

I got no retort. Your right.

Sidebar...

Was Embid wrong for playing in the Olympics?

Is Embid or Paul George REALISTICALLY TRADEABLE
 

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