Official 2024 NFL Discussion Week 10!!!
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Prob the panthers?? Cant wait for Matt Rhule to be fired so Baker can come out here and blame the organization for throwing interceptions..
IT'S NICE TO TAKE A TRIP DOWN MEMORY LANE
The Browns are coming back to reality now. They said that they'd eat the bulk of the salary if a trade went down.
Please run this asshole out of DC.
Here we go with this BS...
Sam...just stop talking
Carolina Panthers' Sam Darnold says he's confident he can be one of the NFL's best quarterbacks
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Sam Darnold gives insight on his offseason work heading into another season with the Panthers. (0:37)
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"As long as I know what we're doing, what the defense is doing, I'm confident I can be one of the best quarterbacks in the league," Darnold said Tuesday, the first time he has spoken to reporters since offseason workouts began.
Coach Matt Rhule, who hasn't ruled out bringing in a veteran at some point, went so far as to say Darnold is practicing with an "edge" he hasn't seen before.
"What Sam has been through this offseason has been very hard," Rhule said. "Your back's against the wall. Everyone's kind of questioning whether you can do this or not. We've seen a guy who has shown up who has a little more edge to him. He's very, very focused."
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Since the New York Jets selected him with the third pick of the 2018 draft, Darnold has consistently ranked as one of the worst quarterbacks in the NFL. His total QBR of 33.2 in 2021, his first year with Carolina, ranked 29th among qualified quarterbacks.
He ranked 33rd in 2020 with a 32.9 rating, 25th in 2019 at 45.9 and 28th in 2018 at 45.9.
In four seasons, he has thrown almost as many interceptions (52) as he has touchdown passes (54). He has a 59.8% career completion percentage since 2018 that also ranks among the worst in the league.
Such numbers are why the Panthers were willing to give up three first-round picks and players for Watson, ultimately traded by the Houston Texans to the Cleveland Browns. They are why Carolina remains interested in acquiring a veteran quarterback.
Among those the Panthers are keeping an eye on, according to a league source, is Baker Mayfield, if the Browns agree to pay most of his $18.8 million for 2022 or release him.
"Everyone, including myself, knows the situation," Darnold said. "But with that being said, it doesn't change my mindset. I have a great attitude about myself going into every day."
That mindset is focused on improving his footwork, which has been an issue since he arrived in the NFL.
"There were times last year when my feet got very ... just, loose is a good term ... chaotic," Darnold said. "It's just having confidence in my feet and the system to go out there and put the ball where it needs to be."
Darnold stopped short, agreeing this is a make-or-break year for him as he enters the fifth and final year of his rookie deal.
"If I were to think about it like that, I could get caught up in the wash," Darnold said. "When I'm in the meeting room, I'm focused on learning the system. When I'm on the practice field, I'm focused on executing that play.
"And even in the games, you're not focused on: 'This is a contract year, I better ball out.' As a quarterback, you've got to be constant. You've got to be consistent every single day and every single play. So it's tough to think about what if, or what can happen in the future."
Darnold's future now is with new offensive coordinator Ben McAdoo, the fourth time in his young career that the former Southern California star has had to learn a new system.
"It's really just going out there and playing every play like it's my last," Darnold said. "If I start thinking about that other stuff ... playing quarterback is hard enough."
Sam...just stop talking
Carolina Panthers' Sam Darnold says he's confident he can be one of the NFL's best quarterbacks
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Sam Darnold gives insight on his offseason work heading into another season with the Panthers. (0:37)
3:18 PM ET
- David NewtonESPN Staff Writer
"As long as I know what we're doing, what the defense is doing, I'm confident I can be one of the best quarterbacks in the league," Darnold said Tuesday, the first time he has spoken to reporters since offseason workouts began.
Coach Matt Rhule, who hasn't ruled out bringing in a veteran at some point, went so far as to say Darnold is practicing with an "edge" he hasn't seen before.
"What Sam has been through this offseason has been very hard," Rhule said. "Your back's against the wall. Everyone's kind of questioning whether you can do this or not. We've seen a guy who has shown up who has a little more edge to him. He's very, very focused."
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Since the New York Jets selected him with the third pick of the 2018 draft, Darnold has consistently ranked as one of the worst quarterbacks in the NFL. His total QBR of 33.2 in 2021, his first year with Carolina, ranked 29th among qualified quarterbacks.
He ranked 33rd in 2020 with a 32.9 rating, 25th in 2019 at 45.9 and 28th in 2018 at 45.9.
In four seasons, he has thrown almost as many interceptions (52) as he has touchdown passes (54). He has a 59.8% career completion percentage since 2018 that also ranks among the worst in the league.
Such numbers are why the Panthers were willing to give up three first-round picks and players for Watson, ultimately traded by the Houston Texans to the Cleveland Browns. They are why Carolina remains interested in acquiring a veteran quarterback.
Among those the Panthers are keeping an eye on, according to a league source, is Baker Mayfield, if the Browns agree to pay most of his $18.8 million for 2022 or release him.
"Everyone, including myself, knows the situation," Darnold said. "But with that being said, it doesn't change my mindset. I have a great attitude about myself going into every day."
That mindset is focused on improving his footwork, which has been an issue since he arrived in the NFL.
"There were times last year when my feet got very ... just, loose is a good term ... chaotic," Darnold said. "It's just having confidence in my feet and the system to go out there and put the ball where it needs to be."
Darnold stopped short, agreeing this is a make-or-break year for him as he enters the fifth and final year of his rookie deal.
"If I were to think about it like that, I could get caught up in the wash," Darnold said. "When I'm in the meeting room, I'm focused on learning the system. When I'm on the practice field, I'm focused on executing that play.
"And even in the games, you're not focused on: 'This is a contract year, I better ball out.' As a quarterback, you've got to be constant. You've got to be consistent every single day and every single play. So it's tough to think about what if, or what can happen in the future."
Darnold's future now is with new offensive coordinator Ben McAdoo, the fourth time in his young career that the former Southern California star has had to learn a new system.
"It's really just going out there and playing every play like it's my last," Darnold said. "If I start thinking about that other stuff ... playing quarterback is hard enough."
yes he doesHe gotta fuckin go K.
u got your ski mask ready?
we might need to take him out ourselves.
Good Pickup for the Ravens..Here
CB Kyle Fuller returns home, agrees to one-year contract with Baltimore Ravens
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Fuller provides experienced depth behind Pro Bowl cornerbacks Marlon Humphrey and Marcus Peters, both of whom are coming off season-ending injuries. Last season, Baltimore allowed the most passing yards (4,986) and gave up a franchise-worst 31 touchdown passes.
Before adding Fuller, the top backups behind Humphrey and Peters were rookie fourth-round picks Jalyn Armour-Davis and Damarion Williams.
Fuller, 30, had a bit of a roller-coaster year with the Denver Broncos in 2021 but exited the season believing he still had plenty of quality football left in him. He had signed a prove-it, one-year $9.5 million deal a year ago after he was released by the Chicago Bears.
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Some of it was also bad timing for Fuller as Surtain, who was the Broncos' first-round pick last April, showed early in training camp it wouldn't be long until he was in the starting lineup. Surtain became a starter in Week 2.
Fuller didn't return to the lineup as a regular until injuries to Surtain and Bryce Callahan forced him into the slot corner role, something he had not done in his NFL career. Then-coach Vic Fangio consistently praised Fuller's willingness to play in that role down the stretch, "especially since he's never done it before in the NFL."
Fuller, who has been selected to two Pro Bowls, had 15 interceptions in his first four seasons in the league, including a league-leading seven in 2018 when he was named a first-team All-Pro, but has had four in the last three seasons combined, including none this past season.
ESPN's Jeff Legwold contributed to this report.
CB Kyle Fuller returns home, agrees to one-year contract with Baltimore Ravens
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Jamison HensleyESPN Staff Writer
Fuller provides experienced depth behind Pro Bowl cornerbacks Marlon Humphrey and Marcus Peters, both of whom are coming off season-ending injuries. Last season, Baltimore allowed the most passing yards (4,986) and gave up a franchise-worst 31 touchdown passes.
Before adding Fuller, the top backups behind Humphrey and Peters were rookie fourth-round picks Jalyn Armour-Davis and Damarion Williams.
Fuller, 30, had a bit of a roller-coaster year with the Denver Broncos in 2021 but exited the season believing he still had plenty of quality football left in him. He had signed a prove-it, one-year $9.5 million deal a year ago after he was released by the Chicago Bears.
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Some of it was also bad timing for Fuller as Surtain, who was the Broncos' first-round pick last April, showed early in training camp it wouldn't be long until he was in the starting lineup. Surtain became a starter in Week 2.
Fuller didn't return to the lineup as a regular until injuries to Surtain and Bryce Callahan forced him into the slot corner role, something he had not done in his NFL career. Then-coach Vic Fangio consistently praised Fuller's willingness to play in that role down the stretch, "especially since he's never done it before in the NFL."
Fuller, who has been selected to two Pro Bowls, had 15 interceptions in his first four seasons in the league, including a league-leading seven in 2018 when he was named a first-team All-Pro, but has had four in the last three seasons combined, including none this past season.
ESPN's Jeff Legwold contributed to this report.
Just convert a portion of his salary to bonus money for more cap relief. Give him 9 Mil bonus and other 9 for salary. Trade him for 2 3rds.
Bud Grant urges NFL to change rules to reduce kneeldowns, fair catches, touchbacks
Hall of Fame former Vikings coach Bud Grant is, at 95, almost as old as the NFL itself.
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Bud Grant urges NFL to change rules to reduce kneeldowns, fair catches, touchbacks
Posted by Michael David Smith on May 21, 2022, 11:35 AM EDT
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Hall of Fame former Vikings coach Bud Grant is, at 95, almost as old as the NFL itself. But he’s not done offering suggestions for how the league can improve quality of play.
Grant told the Minneapolis Star-Tribune that he wants to take out the boring parts of every game, specifically kneeldowns at the end of the game, fair catches on punts and touchbacks on kickoffs.
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“I would complain to people about the idea that when the trailing team was out of timeouts, the quarterback starts kneeling down and the fans are leaving,” Grant said. The answer always was, ‘There’s nothing that can be done about it.’ I kept thinking about it and decided, ‘Yes, there is. The team on offense has to make a yard — 1 yard — or the clock stops. A few things can happen when trying to make a yard. You can get stuffed. You can fumble. You can get a penalty. And you keep the fans interested.”
Grant, a four-time Grey Cup winner who is also in the Canadian Football Hall of Fame, also wants the NFL to follow the CFL’s lead on punts.
“I attended enough meetings to know the NFL wants to avoid admitting Canadian football has a better idea about anything. Yet, they should follow Canada and take away the fair catch,” Grant said. “There’s no fair catch in Canada, but the coverage also has to give the returner 5 yards. NFL people hear this and they’ll say, ‘It will increase injuries.’ The 5-yard cushion makes all the difference. My opinion is there won’t be a real increase in injuries, and the punt would become an interesting play.”
Grant also wants to disincentivize touchbacks on kickoffs.
“Why bother, if your goal is to make the kickoff the most-nothing play in football? They say it’s about safety. Injuries happen on every play,” Grant said. “They have made several changes on the way you can block on the kickoff. They can keep those. But you wait three minutes through a timeout, they come back, kick off, walk the ball out to 25. It’s ridiculous. Move the kickoff back 5 yards [to the 30], and if you don’t bring it out, you don’t get rewarded with the 25. You get the ball at the 15.”
Unfortunately for Grant, the NFL has prioritized injury reduction in its rules changes, and kickoffs and punts are at the top of the list of plays the NFL wants to make safer. Which means there’s really no chance of Grant’s rules being implemented. And Grant’s proposal for eliminating kneeldowns could also increase injuries late in games. So it’s safe to say the NFL won’t be bringing Grant on as a rules consultant, no matter how passionate he is for adding to the sport’s entertainment value.
NFL is discussing ways to "improve" the Pro Bowl, including possibly eliminating it
From time to time, the NFL develops angst and frustration over the inherently non-competitive Pro Bowl.
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NFL is discussing ways to “improve” the Pro Bowl, including possibly eliminating it
Posted by Mike Florio on May 24, 2022, 11:39 AM EDT
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From time to time, the NFL develops angst and frustration over the inherently non-competitive Pro Bowl.
The game stinks. It should stink. It should not be full-contact football, with Sean Taylor blowing up Brian Moorman while the Bills punter ran a fake. (That said, it was awesome.) Players who are healthy in early February need to stay that way. They don’t need to undermine their shot at free agency by getting injured. They don’t need to be rehabbing injuries in the offseason.
But the game, even as two-hand touch in full pads, generates sufficient ratings to justify continuing it. The question becomes whether there’s an alternative that would do as well, or close to it.
Via Ian Rapoport of NFL Media, the league (whose owners are meeting in Atlanta) is “discussing the Pro Bowl and ways to improve it,” including the possibility of getting rid of it. That day could instead be used to “showcase the players in it.”
They can talk about it all they want. The Commissioner at one point huffed and puffed and threatened to blow the Pro Bowl’s house down. In recent years, the complaining has stopped. It stopped because it’s impossible to reconcile player health and safety with expecting them to beat the crap out of each other in an exhibition game.
If the league gets rid of the Pro Bowl game, it needs to replace it with something else that will be as profitable. Unless the league is willing to give up the revenue it generates in exchange for avoiding a day or two of people complaining about the Pro Bowl being the joke that it should be, because players should not be blocking and tackling and hitting that late in the season.
For more on the Pro Bowl, including some quotes from Brian Moorman about the hit he took from Sean Taylor and more, check out (you guessed it) Playmakers.
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The 98 Broncos team will always be my favorite Broncos squad. Ironically,I graduated from high school that year too.
Titans keep pushing for new, not refurbished, stadium
The Titans continue to press for a new stadium, and they continue to resist the possible refurbishment of their existing home in Nashville.
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Titans keep pushing for new, not refurbished, stadium
Posted by Mike Florio on May 20, 2022, 4:57 PM EDT
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The Titans continue to press for a new stadium, and they continue to resist the possible refurbishment of their existing home in Nashville.
Via the Tennessean, Titans president/CEO Burke Nihill said that a new stadium is the best long-term solution for the team and its current hometown.
Nihill presented to the Metro Sports Authority on Thursday an analysis by AECOM Hunt construction, which concluded that Nissan Stadium will require $1.2 billion to renovate with another $900 million in upgrades in order to remain relevant through 2039, the term of the current lease. That’s $2.1 billion. A new stadium is expected to cost between $1.9 billion and $2.2 billion.
The Titans, like most other NFL teams, would like to foist the bulk of the expense onto the taxpayers. Based on prior reports and public comments, a new stadium would be built with $700 million in private money — and $1.5 billion in public money, far and away a new record.
“The mayor said it last week . . . that in his opinion, doing nothing is not an option,” Nihill told reporters. “I think we’ve seen it that way for three or four years. Probably longer. Just understanding that the condition of this building, the increasing NFL standards and really all standards for building that we had to stop plugging holes and come up with a comprehensive solution. . . . The building condition of the current building [and] the inflexibility of the current building makes it hard to picture that building being a 50- or 60-year-old building, which is what it would be if we extended the lease and did the financing necessary to do a large-scale renovation.”
Giving the Titans added leverage is the notion that, per Nihill, it will cost the Metro Sports Authority $1.8 billion to keep the stadium up to snuff through 2039. Thus, the obvious alternative is to just build a new one.
Mayor John Cooper has proposed that the Titans, not the Metro Sports Authority, be responsible for stadium maintenance and improvement costs, if a new facility is built. Cooper also has asked that the Titans cover any construction cost overruns.
So the options currently are: (1) spend a lot of taxpayer money on a new stadium; (2) spend a lot of taxpayer money to meet contractual obligations to maintain and upgrade the current stadium; or (3) breach the obligations under the current lease and risk the Titans will do to Nashville what the franchise did to Houston in the 1990s — leave town.
Choose wisely, Nashville, because if the team ever gets a chance to go get elsewhere what it can’t get there, it won’t take two guesses to figure out what it will do.
NFL expands Rooney Rule to cover quarterbacks coach position
A number of current NFL head coaches spent time as quarterbacks coaches in the NFL.
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NFL expands Rooney Rule to require interviewing a minority for QB coach vacancies
The NFL has expanded the Rooney Rule and will now require all teams with a vacancy for the quarterbacks coach to interview at least one minority for the job.
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NFL adds requirements to Rooney Rule to aid minority hiring
To ensure more opportunities for diverse candidates, the NFL has added requirements on the hiring of offensive assistant coaches, and women in general.
Ridiculous
At the end of the day it's a fuckin game. Some fans are pure pieces of shit. 
Looks like Omar Khan will be the Steelers next GM. He knows what he's doing. I'm happy with that.
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49ers 1st round pick, D-lineman, Javon Kinlaw
Arguing with Sports Illustrated media beatwriter/reporter last night (Grant Cohn)
Quick backstory:
This repoter is very well known
Not as popular as someone like Ian Rappaport, but he's well known to all 49ers fans
But, he can be polarizing
If a 9ers player looks like he might be a bust, he will let it be known (on youtube or twitter)
He doesn't hold his tongue at all, which sometimes tends to rub players the wrong way
Welp after the first day of OTA football practice
Grant Cohn was doing his live youtube show
Towards the end, this 49ers player called in, & bruh went OFF, on some Birdman type shit, LOL
"Put some respek on my name, you little dick nigga"
It starts at the 33:55 minute mark.....
Arguing with Sports Illustrated media beatwriter/reporter last night (Grant Cohn)
Quick backstory:
This repoter is very well known
Not as popular as someone like Ian Rappaport, but he's well known to all 49ers fans
But, he can be polarizing
If a 9ers player looks like he might be a bust, he will let it be known (on youtube or twitter)
He doesn't hold his tongue at all, which sometimes tends to rub players the wrong way
Welp after the first day of OTA football practice
Grant Cohn was doing his live youtube show
Towards the end, this 49ers player called in, & bruh went OFF, on some Birdman type shit, LOL
"Put some respek on my name, you little dick nigga"
It starts at the 33:55 minute mark.....
John Harbaugh on Lamar Jackson's absence: Up to him to speak for himself
Ravens quarterback Lamar Jackson hasn't been at the team's organized team activities this week and any discussion of why he's decided not to take part in the voluntary work is going to have to wait until Jackson's next visit with reporters.
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Former Raiders coach Jon Gruden wins two early legal battles vs. NFL as judge denies motions
Gruden's lawsuit will remain in court as motions to dismiss it and to move it to arbitration were denied
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Judge denies NFL's motion to toss Gruden suit
Judge Nancy Allf has denied the NFL's motion to move Jon Gruden's lawsuit against the league and commissioner Roger Goodell to arbitration as well as the league's motion to dismiss the suit.