Official 2024 NFL Discussion Week 11!!!

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This tells me that Lynn’s parting was expected by both sides, but moreso that he was a bigger than just a coach, dude was a mentor to many young brothas. Notice that they were wrecked by injuries but played hard for him every game. I hope he gets another shot soon.


:clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: I agree with everything you said

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i swear that city is cursed. Steelers chances of victory just went up.
And if we do the same bullshit we did against Cincinnati with that predictable ass short passing we gon lose still. Ben has to risk getting hit to get the ball downfield to Claypool, Johnson and Washington. :itsawrap:

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Resurfaced Jason Kelce video makes things more awkward for Doug Pederson
By Michael Blinn
January 4, 2021 | 4:22pm | Updated




Well, this is awkward.

Eagles coach Doug Pederson has caught plenty of flak for his head-scratching coaching decisions in the team’s season finale Sunday night. He could have avoided it if he had listened to his Pro Bowl center, Jason Kelce.

Not long after Pederson benched Jalen Hurts Nate Sudfeld in the third quarter to finish out the game — a plan that saw Philly lose to Washington, 20-14, and jump up three spots in the 2021 NFL Draft order to No. 6 — a recent video of Kelce discussing the importance of winning over tanking popped up.

“I think at all times in the NFL, the focus should be winning the football game,” he said. “Nothing else takes precedence. No player evaluation, no amount of curiosity from anybody within the organization — everything is focused, in my opinion in this league, upon winning games. You see a lot of losing teams sustain losses for a number of years when they have bad cultures. They have cultures where you don’t try and win every week.

Where you’re trying to think, ‘What are we going to do in the draft? What are we doing in free agency? What can we do over here?’

“In football — this isn’t basketball — one draft pick isn’t going to make us a Super Bowl champion. It might be a big start to a Super Bowl championship. But it’s always going to be about the team. That’s the greatest thing about this sport. And in culture, and the way guys fight, and the way guys go to prepare, and the way guys go about their business is a huge reason for success in this league and in this sport.”

Kelce, part of the Super Bowl-winning squad in 2018, may not even be around to see what the No. 6 pick can do for the team, and he appears to know it. After the Week 17 loss, Kelce, Wentz, and tight end Zach Ertz stayed on the team’s bench to talk, with all three having their Eagles futures in question.

“Nothing takes precedence over trying to win a football game,” Kelce said in his recent diatribe. “I don’t care who you’re trying to evaluate. I don’t care if you’ve lost every game, you’re 0-15 and it’s the last one you’ve got — everything is about winning in this league.”




It’s a clip Kelce may want to play for Pederson at some point.
 

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Miles Sanders reveals exactly what Eagles players thought of ‘confusing’ QB decision
By Ryan Dunleavy
January 5, 2021 | 2:22pm | Updated


Giants miss playoffs after ‘sickening’ Eagles decision



So much for the ridiculous idea that only the Giants and their fans were outraged by the Eagles coaching to lose.

Doug Pederson has a problem in his own locker room, as confirmed by running back Miles Sanders on SportsRadio 94 WIP in Philadelphia.

“Man, if I’m being honest, nobody liked the decision. Nobody,” Sanders said. “That’s all I can say really. I don’t know who was the main person behind that decision. All I know is a lot of people on the team was confused.”

The Eagles pulled starting quarterback Jalen Hurts in favor of bumbling third-stringer Nate Sudfeld at the start of the fourth quarter, facing a three-point deficit. A sulking Carson Wentz was inactive.

Washington’s win over the Eagles clinched the NFC East title and eliminated the Giants from playoff contention.

Pederson has been on blast from former NFL players, including Eagles great Seth Joyner, and most notably from Giants coach Joe Judge. After first saying the Giants needed to do more with their 16 games to get in the playoffs, Judge – without naming the Eagles or Pederson – said it was “disrespectful” to players and the integrity of the game not to give a full effort for 60 minutes.


Sanders did not play against Washington and was one of nine players ruled out due to injury. Sitting players is more of an acceptable form of tanking than trying to lose once the game is underway.

Sanders’ comments leave open the theory that it might not have been Pederson’s decision, but rather a directive from ownership or the front office that losing would improve draft position from No. 9 to No. 6 in the first round.
 

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Whether Judge cries about it or not the bottom line is it was a fucked up decision to take Hurts out. The players on the Eagles didn't like it. If I'm Hurts I do not want to play for Dusty ass Peterson. If I'm a player, I'm punching him in his shit. If I'm Jeffrey Lurie, I fire the muthafucka. If I'm the NFL, they aren't allowed on primetime the next 3 years. Except next year.........against the Giants.

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Patrick Mahomes ‘confused’ by Eagles’ baffling quarterback move
By Samantha Previte
January 5, 2021 | 1:34pm | Updated



The Giants aren’t the only ones baffled by Doug Pederson’s puzzling decisions on Sunday night.

Chiefs quarterback and Super Bowl LIV MVP Patrick Mahomes said the Eagles’ apparent tanking confused him because he would have played the season out “no matter what.”

“You never know what’s going on inside the team or the organization,” Mahomes told KCSP 610 Sports Radio on Monday, “But, I mean, just watching how he played the last few weeks, it did kinda confuse me at the time.

“For me, I would have wanted to play and finish out the season, no matter what our record was. But, whatever the coach thought was best for the team, he did, and you have to back that as a guy on the team.”

The 25-year-old Mahomes is referencing Pederson’s controversial call to pull quarterback Jalen Hurts during the second half of the Philadelphia-Washington game in favor of third-string QB Nate Sudfeld. Hurts had completed just seven of 20 attempts for 72 yards, zero touchdowns and one interception. Sudfeld — a career backup — completed five of 12 attempts for 32 yards and one interception, and the Eagles were defeated 20-14.
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Pederson maintains he wasn’t waving the white flag and that his “plan” was to get Sudfeld in the game, much to Hurts’ (and Eagles other players’) dismay.

“It’s not right,” Hurts appeared to say on camera after the switch.

The decision drew ire as it was viewed as intentional tanking and was highly consequential in a tight NFC East race. Had the Eagles defeated the Football Team, the Giants, Cowboys and Washington would all have been tied at 6-10, and the Giants would have won the division as they held the tiebreaker.

Pederson, 52, served under the Chiefs’ head coach in Philadelphia as Andy Reid’s quarterbacks coach and in Kansas City as offensive coordinator.
 

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Texans can't afford any more 'wasted' seasons for Deshaun Watson
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  • Sarah BarshopESPN Staff Writer
HOUSTON -- As Deshaun Watson and J.J. Watt walked off the field at NRG Stadium for the final time in the 2020 season, the veteran defensive end apologized to the Houston Texans’ franchise quarterback.
“I’m sorry,” Watt told Watson, in a clip released Tuesday by NFL Films. “We wasted one of your years. I’m sorry.”

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Coming into the season, the Texans knew taking the next step forward -- advancing to the AFC Championship Game for the first time in franchise history -- would require a step forward from Watson.
And, perhaps most frustrating for those in the Texans organization, Watson did make that jump. He reached career highs in every category and finished with the most passing yards in the NFL, although that title is mostly thanks to Patrick Mahomes sitting out the Chiefs’ regular-season finale.

Drew Has Company
Quarterbacks with the most passing yards with a 70%-or-better completion percentage in a single season in NFL history.
PLAYERYEARYARDS
Drew Brees20115,476
Drew Brees20165,208
Deshaun Watson20204,823
Drew Brees20094,388
Drew Brees20174,298
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Although Watt and the Texans believe they wasted a year of Watson’s excellence due to a defense that struggled, having a franchise quarterback under contract means this might not need to be a long-term rebuild for the organization. Watson became the first player to lead the NFL in passing yards with 12 or more losses since Jeff George for the Raiders in 1997, according to ESPN Stats & Information.
"I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again," Watt said. "When you have a quarterback in this league you have a chance, and there’s a damn good one in our locker room right here."
Watson finished the season with a completion percentage of 70.2% and his 4,823 passing yards is third in NFL history for most passing yards in a single season with a completion percentage of 70% or better. New Orleans Saints quarterback Drew Brees has the other four seasons in the top five. In the season's final 11 weeks, he had 24 touchdowns and two interceptions, even as the Texans went 3-8 in those games.
Watson had that success in a season with a new playcaller, as former head coach Bill O’Brien handed over playcalling duties to offensive coordinator Tim Kelly during the offseason. O’Brien was then fired after four games.
“Of course [I’m proud of] all the individual stats, but just being able to accomplish the things I accomplished through a dysfunctional year, pretty much,” Watson said. “I think I’m pretty proud of that.”
J.J. Watt apologized to Deshaun Watson as they walked off the field Sunday after losing to the Titans. "We wasted one of your years," Watt said. Statistically, it was a great one for Watson. AP Photo/Eric Christian Smith
Perhaps most impressive is Watson did this after losing reigning three-time All-Pro wide receiver DeAndre Hopkins to a trade during the offseason and Will Fuller to a suspension before Week 13. Watson was able to lean on Brandin Cooks, who the Texans traded for in April, but otherwise he had a group of unproven young receivers and other playmakers: Keke Coutee, Chad Hansen, Steven Mitchell, tight ends Jordan Akins and Kahale Warring. He had veteran running backs David Johnson and Duke Johnson to throw to out of the backfield.
“Right now, I think everybody feels like that he’s a good passing quarterback, he’s a good scrambler, but I think that he can do it all, to tell you the truth,” interim head coach Romeo Crennel said. “He puts up big numbers. He put up big numbers when he had the good guys and he put up good numbers when he had the replacements. So, I think that’s a sign that he’s a good quarterback.”

As the Texans look forward to not wasting future seasons with Watson, it’s clear they see the urgency in making the right decisions at head coach in order to take advantage of Watson’s talent. Watson signed a huge contract extension before the 2020 season and the Texans have one more season before his contract starts counting more than $40 million against their salary cap, which will make it more difficult to build a good team around him.
When asked about what he’s looking for in a new head coach, Watson said the Texans “need a whole culture shift.”

“It just starts with the energy and just the foundation of this program,” Watson said. “There's no real foundation in view. Everyone sees it. Everyone knows that. Got to have a guy that can come in and stand strong, stand 10 toes down and, hey, this is the way it's going to go and this is the way we're going to win. That's what we need. It's kind of just up in the air right now.
"That's what I'm looking forward to, some disciplined responsibility and [someone with] good, fun energy that cares about winning championships and winning games, but at the same time is coming in to work each and every day regardless.”
Regardless of whom the Texans hire, it’s clear those in the building know that after seeing Watson play the best football of his career, despite all the challenges he had to deal with, the organization is in good hands going forward.
“You talk about a guy that just loves to perfect his craft,” Cooks said. “I think he's grown every single day, every single game, week in and week out. I mean, I just don't see no slowing down with a guy like him.”

 

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Texans can't afford any more 'wasted' seasons for Deshaun Watson
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  • Sarah BarshopESPN Staff Writer

HOUSTON -- As Deshaun Watson and J.J. Watt walked off the field at NRG Stadium for the final time in the 2020 season, the veteran defensive end apologized to the Houston Texans’ franchise quarterback.
“I’m sorry,” Watt told Watson, in a clip released Tuesday by NFL Films. “We wasted one of your years. I’m sorry.”

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Coming into the season, the Texans knew taking the next step forward -- advancing to the AFC Championship Game for the first time in franchise history -- would require a step forward from Watson.
And, perhaps most frustrating for those in the Texans organization, Watson did make that jump. He reached career highs in every category and finished with the most passing yards in the NFL, although that title is mostly thanks to Patrick Mahomes sitting out the Chiefs’ regular-season finale.

Drew Has Company
Quarterbacks with the most passing yards with a 70%-or-better completion percentage in a single season in NFL history.
PLAYERYEARYARDS
Drew Brees20115,476
Drew Brees20165,208
Deshaun Watson20204,823
Drew Brees20094,388
Drew Brees20174,298
ESPN Stats & Information
Although Watt and the Texans believe they wasted a year of Watson’s excellence due to a defense that struggled, having a franchise quarterback under contract means this might not need to be a long-term rebuild for the organization. Watson became the first player to lead the NFL in passing yards with 12 or more losses since Jeff George for the Raiders in 1997, according to ESPN Stats & Information.

"I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again," Watt said. "When you have a quarterback in this league you have a chance, and there’s a damn good one in our locker room right here."
Watson finished the season with a completion percentage of 70.2% and his 4,823 passing yards is third in NFL history for most passing yards in a single season with a completion percentage of 70% or better. New Orleans Saints quarterback Drew Brees has the other four seasons in the top five. In the season's final 11 weeks, he had 24 touchdowns and two interceptions, even as the Texans went 3-8 in those games.
Watson had that success in a season with a new playcaller, as former head coach Bill O’Brien handed over playcalling duties to offensive coordinator Tim Kelly during the offseason. O’Brien was then fired after four games.
“Of course [I’m proud of] all the individual stats, but just being able to accomplish the things I accomplished through a dysfunctional year, pretty much,” Watson said. “I think I’m pretty proud of that.”
J.J. Watt apologized to Deshaun Watson as they walked off the field Sunday after losing to the Titans. "We wasted one of your years," Watt said. Statistically, it was a great one for Watson. AP Photo/Eric Christian Smith
Perhaps most impressive is Watson did this after losing reigning three-time All-Pro wide receiver DeAndre Hopkins to a trade during the offseason and Will Fuller to a suspension before Week 13. Watson was able to lean on Brandin Cooks, who the Texans traded for in April, but otherwise he had a group of unproven young receivers and other playmakers: Keke Coutee, Chad Hansen, Steven Mitchell, tight ends Jordan Akins and Kahale Warring. He had veteran running backs David Johnson and Duke Johnson to throw to out of the backfield.
“Right now, I think everybody feels like that he’s a good passing quarterback, he’s a good scrambler, but I think that he can do it all, to tell you the truth,” interim head coach Romeo Crennel said. “He puts up big numbers. He put up big numbers when he had the good guys and he put up good numbers when he had the replacements. So, I think that’s a sign that he’s a good quarterback.”

As the Texans look forward to not wasting future seasons with Watson, it’s clear they see the urgency in making the right decisions at head coach in order to take advantage of Watson’s talent. Watson signed a huge contract extension before the 2020 season and the Texans have one more season before his contract starts counting more than $40 million against their salary cap, which will make it more difficult to build a good team around him.
When asked about what he’s looking for in a new head coach, Watson said the Texans “need a whole culture shift.”

“It just starts with the energy and just the foundation of this program,” Watson said. “There's no real foundation in view. Everyone sees it. Everyone knows that. Got to have a guy that can come in and stand strong, stand 10 toes down and, hey, this is the way it's going to go and this is the way we're going to win. That's what we need. It's kind of just up in the air right now.
"That's what I'm looking forward to, some disciplined responsibility and [someone with] good, fun energy that cares about winning championships and winning games, but at the same time is coming in to work each and every day regardless.”
Regardless of whom the Texans hire, it’s clear those in the building know that after seeing Watson play the best football of his career, despite all the challenges he had to deal with, the organization is in good hands going forward.
“You talk about a guy that just loves to perfect his craft,” Cooks said. “I think he's grown every single day, every single game, week in and week out. I mean, I just don't see no slowing down with a guy like him.”



Watson a beast .... i didnt recognize one name on offense except Brandin Cooks...

dude did all tht with unknown players....wow ...:bravo:


would have been MVP if his team made the playoffs ....
 

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Watson a beast .... i didnt recognize one name on offense except Brandin Cooks...

dude did all tht with unknown players....wow ...:bravo:


would have been MVP if his team made the playoffs ....
He is amazing. Imagine what he could do with weapons and a coach or coordinator who wants to win. But no high draft picks for 2 years.
 

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I'm not sure what Rivera is going to do, but they need to get a stop gap in there while they can get another QB...Cam Newton on line 1...you got logan thomas, and Mclaurin....nice backs in Mckissic and Gibson, build up that Oline and get another receiver and they should be good while they recover from Haskins..

Oh the irony, kyle allen backing up Cam again..lol
 
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