tank was getting beat most of he fight by barrios. his power was major factor. keith looked solid and had barrios in trouble a few times.for as much as we talk about how weak thurman is, he never got dropped off a body shot. ido think bud would take advantage of that. spence could but he doesn't put the pressure on. spence hasn't ko anyone in 4 years. either way i would give the edge to bud and ej fighting keith right now. i know crawford would got for the ko more so than ej.
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I agree however I'd give him a punchers chance against Crawford reason being Bud doesn't have a very good chin AND the fact that ALL the guys that knocked him down or rattled his jaw a bit were LESS of a puncher than Thurman. Crawford would have to catch him first to land any good shots to the body and THAT won't be an easy task..Thurman is a Good counter puncher..SO I give him somewhat of a chance against Bud but IMO Spence would punish him badly
Man I was agreeing with your but then you said Bud would work Thurhaman's body. Spence could to but Spence doesn't put the pressure on. What....!
Spence breaks mutherfuckers down to the body while methodically presses mutherfuckers.
Dude you are just telling me you don't know Spence (or you're simply being bias towards Bud).
Spence is a body puncher. That's his thing...it's how he breaks fighters down
You say Spence is not going to take a risk getting countered?
Spence is a pressure fighter and he would press Thurman and beat that body up...
Spence last fight after coming back from a bad car accident went straight after hard hitting Danny Garcia and you say he won't take a risk getting countered by Thurman?
Here is what Thurman said about Danny Garcia:
“Nobody hit like Danny (Garcia),” said Thurman during an interview with FightHype.com “He felt like a big brick, Pacquiao felt like a little brick."
I agree however I'd give him a punchers chance against Crawford reason being Bud doesn't have a very good chin AND the fact that ALL the guys that knocked him down or rattled his jaw a bit were LESS of a puncher than Thurman. Crawford would have to catch him first to land any good shots to the body and THAT won't be an easy task..Thurman is a Good counter puncher..SO I give him somewhat of a chance against Bud but IMO Spence would punish him badly
i'm not being bias. as much as folks say about danny, he comes up short aganst elite fighters. he was gifted that fight against Mauricio Herrera.yeah keith said that and danny couldn't drop keith. as of right now i would still give te nod to spence and bud beat thurman. but see errol being be careful to not get in exchanging with keith heavy.Dude you are just telling me you don't know Spence (or you're simply being bias towards Bud).
Spence is a body puncher. That's his thing...it's how he breaks fighters down
You say Spence is not going to take a risk getting countered?
Spence is a pressure fighter and he would press Thurman and beat that body up...
Spence last fight after coming back from a bad car accident went straight after hard hitting Danny Garcia and you say he won't take a risk getting countered by Thurman?
Here is what Thurman said about Danny Garcia:
“Nobody hit like Danny (Garcia),” said Thurman during an interview with FightHype.com “He felt like a big brick, Pacquiao felt like a little brick."
It doesn't matter whether Garcia was given a gift or not.
We're are talking about Spence taken chances, pressure, and body shots.
Essentially what you are saying is that Errol Spence won't fight like Errol Spence against Thurman because he wouldn't want to be countered.
Again, Spence came back from a serious car wreck and his first fight wasn't against a soft touch but a guy who has power in both hands. That in of itself is taking a chance.
In the fight with Danny he took the chances you say he wouldn't and destroyed Danny's body. Took some shots from Danny and wasn’t fazed by that shit...
Thurman last night couldn't take out Barrios who moved up from 140 and who in his last fight was knocked out by a guy who moved up from 130 (and was 5 inches shorter).
Spence would wrap Thurman the fuck up.
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It doesn't matter whether Garcia was given a gift or not.
We're are talking about Spence taken chances, pressure, and body shots.
Essentially what you are saying is that Errol Spence won't fight like Errol Spence against Thurman because he wouldn't want to be countered.
Again, Spence came back from a serious car reck and his first fight wasn't against a soft touch but a guy who has power in both hands. That in of itself is taking a chance.
In the fight with Danny he took the chances you say he wouldn't and destroyed Danny's body. Took some shots from Danny and wasn’t fazed by that shit...
Thurman last night couldn't take out Barrios who moved up from 140 and who in his last fight was knocked out by a guy who moved up from 130 (and was 5 inches shorter).
Spence would wrap Thurman the fuck up.
what bugged me out the most was that thurman was getting hurt by a pillow fisted small fighter with big gloves on
those body shots were making him wince in pain
he's done, man
Man one
Shit one shot to the body, from the body work specialist Spence, and Spence aint going to have to worry about no counter right, or lefts.
Don't get it twisted. Barrios can punch. But, I understand where you are coming from.
Barrios is no puncher man
I have absolutely no idea why Virgil and company didn't emphasize on going to the body more.
I would at tried to at least emulate what Ed Vasquez was trying to do to Ray Ford.
Most times the fighter don't follow directions. Virgil is a great coach, but when your fighter ain't doing what you want him too, it ain't much you can do. I tell any fighter, if a mofo is moving, his body ain't going no where. If he hit you and it didn't knock you out, then take one or two of them mofos to get what you want. No pain, no gain.
If you have knocked out 17 mofo out of 26 people, you got some power. Dude got power, believe that. If he didn't he would have gotten knocked out last night.
True true.
5:29 markIt doesn't matter whether Garcia was given a gift or not.
We're are talking about Spence taken chances, pressure, and body shots.
Essentially what you are saying is that Errol Spence won't fight like Errol Spence against Thurman because he wouldn't want to be countered.
Again, Spence came back from a serious car wreck and his first fight wasn't against a soft touch but a guy who has power in both hands. That in of itself is taking a chance.
In the fight with Danny he took the chances you say he wouldn't and destroyed Danny's body. Took some shots from Danny and wasn’t fazed by that shit...
Thurman last night couldn't take out Barrios who moved up from 140 and who in his last fight was knocked out by a guy who moved up from 130 (and was 5 inches shorter).
Spence would wrap Thurman the fuck up.
spence didn't knockout nor drop mikey who moved up from 135/140. in te danny fight , spence jab was the factor at the 5:29 mark spence speaks on that.for all the weak body talk we hear about thurman he was never dropped by those body shots.tbh spence hasn't ko anyone in 4 years.
Mikey fought not to get knocked out. He turtled up from the third round to the end
Let's start from your premise.
Your premise was that Spence could hurt Thurman but he doesn't put the pressure on (despite Spence being a pressure fighter). Then you say Spence isn't going to take a chance to hit Thurman to the body because he wouldn't want to be countered (despite Spence showing that he takes chances, has a sturdy chin, and does body work)
When making comparsion.
You have to make them equal or at least near equal.
I said Tank moved up from 130 to 140 and knocked Barrios out. Barrios moves up from 140 to 147 and Thurman couldn’t knock him out.
Now where is the Tank example for Mikey Garcia? I don't remember a lower weight fighter knocking Mikey out just before fighting Spence.
The whole point is if Thurman couldn't knock Barriors out. What makes you think Thurman is going to KO Spence (or that Spence is worried about Thurman's counter), despite Spence showing he has a chin against a heavy hitter like Danny Garcia?
Btw Keith "1 time" Thurman aint been 1 time is quite some time.
Oh and in the fight with Mikey he wanted to prove that he was not just a pressure fighter and could box.
"From the whole training camp, the experts like Sugar Ray Leonard felt like [Garcia] was too smart and I couldn't box [with him,]" Spence said. "You saw today I could box and move my head and do all that if I want to.
"The game is to be smart, it's a sweet science. I had the size advantage and my reach. Why not use my jab and take something away from him that he likes to do which is use his jab too?"
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fact of the matter is he didn't get a 135/140 dude outta there. never dropped him. i never said thurman would ko spence. style make fights. vernon forest and mygora for example. forest couldn't beat mygora but he could beat molesy. molesy ko mygora. and tank was losing that fight with barrios up until the ko. another example is manny vs cotto and floyd vs cotto . manny stop cotto. floyd didn't stop him but everyone seen him convincingly beat cotto. what i said in reference to spence is that he's not going to take risk or take to give to get to the body. he will wait for thurman to make a mistake and make pay for his mistake.
i now. and spence wasn't trying ko him. it was a solid performance. but to go back to what i said and what we know about crawford, bud would go in with the intentions to hurt and ko mikey. especially at 147.
Mikey is not a true 147lb fighter, and way past his prime and couldn't hurt Spence. Bud is the best in the division by far and I don't think its close. Question for Bud is who takes over his promotional management. Hearn, or TMT. Can't trust either one of them imo.
Damn 
How was Mikey past his prime? A year before fighting spence he was 39 - 0 and a unified lightweight champion (4 divion champ including jr welterweight)
He beat Robert Easter, and Segey Lipinets (Jr. Welterweight) in the same year. A year before that he beat Adrien Broner. That man was not past his prime.
The fact is Spence is not a defensive fighter. He is an offensive fighter and there is no way Spence is going to simply sit back and wait for Thurman to make a mistake before he starts chopping at Thurman's Achilles hills. That is simply not Errol Spence's style and aint worried about no counter from Thurman.
If anybody would be worried about a Thurman counter. It would be Bud, since his chin is not the best.
Damn
That's awful man. Dudes think they can go back home but you can't. They're jealous and envious. Hopefully he pulls through
Anybody but Haney 
Ain’t that about a bitch 
Idk if PBC can go higher than $100mil for charlo and benavidez
Ain’t that about a bitch
Or even if they can, if they want to. DAZN has money to waste (for Canelo at least).
It has to make sense for the PBC.