Who is he the mandatory for now?
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For the IBF belt that is Brooks, but I don't see Brook coming back down to 47 after triple G. He will probably go down to 154. I don't see Brook making 147 again.
Good question. I imagine he'll be awarded the IBF once Brook vacates after the GGG fight.
I can see Heyman feeding Garcia to Spence late 2016 or early 2017.
I know Thurman's been calling Danny's name, but Danny's been quiet about taking the fight.
Nah, not much of one. Danny doesn't do well against guys that can box/move. Danny arguably lost to Peterson, and absolutely lost to Herrera.
I don't see him faring any better against Spence.
True. I can't see who they pit against Spence tho.
Most, if not all the other upper echelon guys already have belts, and those that don't are coming off losses.
Rio 2016: Shakur shou hold his head high after winning Olympic silver | Politi
Shakur Stevenson poses on the podium with a medal during the Rio 2016 Olympic Games at the Riocentro - Pavilion 6 in Rio de Janeiro on August 20, 2016.
RIO DE JANEIRO — One after another, his family and friends tried to console Shakur Stevenson, but it was no use. Towel over his head, the 19-year-old from Newark kept sobbing and heaving.
"I didn't win!" he wailed as he fell into the arms of his mother, Malikah, outside the Olympic boxing venue. His father, Shahid Guyton, wrapped him in a bear hug and whispered words of encouragement in his ear. Then his teammate, Claressa Shields, grabbed his shoulders and gave him a pep talk.
"I need you to be strong!" she told him. "You fought hard. You fought your heart out. You are a champion."
Stevenson wasn't listening. He had just suffered the first defeat of his international career in the Olympic gold medal fight. That it was a split decision, a narrow loss where even one or two punches could have made a difference, didn't matter. That he lost to a far more experienced boxer who entered the ring with a gold medal already on his resume didn't, either.
He had come here with one mission, and as he waited for the ceremony to get his silver medal, he was certain that he had failed. And no one could convince him otherwise.
"I apologize to everyone back home that I let down," he said. He was reminded that that it was the best result for an American boxer since 2004, that no American male won a medal at all four years ago in London. "I don't look at it as an accomplishment. I look at it as I lost."
13 cool things about Shakur Stevenson
Time, hopefully, will heal the hurt he was feeling on Saturday afternoon because the reality is something quite different. Stevenson did not let anyone down here in Brazil. He represented his city and state with pride, both with the excellence he showed in the ring and the sportsmanship he displayed outside of it.
He proved he is a winner, even in defeat. In a sport again ravaged with judging scandals, Stevenson had lost one of the closest Olympic title bouts here. But there was no complaining about the decision, no bad mouthing his opponent or the system.
Once he gathered his emotions, Stevenson stood in front of the TV cameras and microphones, one after another, and made it clear: His Cuban opponent, Robeisy Ramirez, had beaten him.
He pointed to the first round, when he wasn't as aggressive as he planned. He looked back on the final 30 seconds of the third round, when Ramirez had backed him into a corner and threw a flurry of punches.
"I'm disappointed in myself," Stevenson said. "I'm crushed. But I'm going to come back stronger."
Stevenson was three years younger than Ramirez. The U.S. coach Billy Walsh said "it was a boy vs. a man today," an assessment that brought out the one angry response from the Newark boxer. With good reason, too. Stevenson pushed the best boxer in the bantamweight division to the brink.
He was no boy, not even close. The consensus opinion coming into the fight that Stevenson has a bright career ahead of him as a professional remained unchanged at the end. You'll see his face on a promotion poster soon. You'll see him headlining a card at the Prudential Center.
"Shakur Stevenson woke America up," his coach Kay Koroma said. "Shakur Stevenson made America smile — it wasn't just Newark. People have come out of nowhere on Twitter and are talking about Shakur Stevenson. Like I told him, the smile is golden. The world loved him."
That smile, a fixture on his face even when he's throwing punches in the ring, was missing on the medal stand. Stevenson looked despondent as he was awarded his silver, and the frown remained as he held it up for the cameras that swarmed the four medalists.
Boxing's best hope is a kid from Newark
The journey, one that began in Newark when Stevenson was just 5 and started training in his grandfather's gym, didn't end here the way he wanted. Stevenson hoped that a gold medal would inspire young people in his home city, that it would help launch his professional career so he can provide for his eight younger siblings.
The way boxing icon turned promoter Floyd Mayweather gushed about him, he'll still have no problem making that a reality. "Most likely I'm going to turn pro," Stevenson said, "try to win some world titles and try to break records."
He was at a press conference when Ramirez was asked the same question about becoming a professional. Stevenson turned with interest and waited to hear the answer from the translator, and when it wasn't clear enough, he asked for clarification. He wanted a rematch.
Ramirez turned to his rival directly and said that, someday in the near future, they would fight again. That news, finally, is what put the smile back on Shakur's face.
Shakur Stevenson poses on the podium with a medal during the Rio 2016 Olympic Games at the Riocentro - Pavilion 6 in Rio de Janeiro on August 20, 2016.
RIO DE JANEIRO — One after another, his family and friends tried to console Shakur Stevenson, but it was no use. Towel over his head, the 19-year-old from Newark kept sobbing and heaving.
"I didn't win!" he wailed as he fell into the arms of his mother, Malikah, outside the Olympic boxing venue. His father, Shahid Guyton, wrapped him in a bear hug and whispered words of encouragement in his ear. Then his teammate, Claressa Shields, grabbed his shoulders and gave him a pep talk.
"I need you to be strong!" she told him. "You fought hard. You fought your heart out. You are a champion."
Stevenson wasn't listening. He had just suffered the first defeat of his international career in the Olympic gold medal fight. That it was a split decision, a narrow loss where even one or two punches could have made a difference, didn't matter. That he lost to a far more experienced boxer who entered the ring with a gold medal already on his resume didn't, either.
He had come here with one mission, and as he waited for the ceremony to get his silver medal, he was certain that he had failed. And no one could convince him otherwise.
"I apologize to everyone back home that I let down," he said. He was reminded that that it was the best result for an American boxer since 2004, that no American male won a medal at all four years ago in London. "I don't look at it as an accomplishment. I look at it as I lost."
13 cool things about Shakur Stevenson
Time, hopefully, will heal the hurt he was feeling on Saturday afternoon because the reality is something quite different. Stevenson did not let anyone down here in Brazil. He represented his city and state with pride, both with the excellence he showed in the ring and the sportsmanship he displayed outside of it.
He proved he is a winner, even in defeat. In a sport again ravaged with judging scandals, Stevenson had lost one of the closest Olympic title bouts here. But there was no complaining about the decision, no bad mouthing his opponent or the system.
Once he gathered his emotions, Stevenson stood in front of the TV cameras and microphones, one after another, and made it clear: His Cuban opponent, Robeisy Ramirez, had beaten him.
He pointed to the first round, when he wasn't as aggressive as he planned. He looked back on the final 30 seconds of the third round, when Ramirez had backed him into a corner and threw a flurry of punches.
"I'm disappointed in myself," Stevenson said. "I'm crushed. But I'm going to come back stronger."
Stevenson was three years younger than Ramirez. The U.S. coach Billy Walsh said "it was a boy vs. a man today," an assessment that brought out the one angry response from the Newark boxer. With good reason, too. Stevenson pushed the best boxer in the bantamweight division to the brink.
He was no boy, not even close. The consensus opinion coming into the fight that Stevenson has a bright career ahead of him as a professional remained unchanged at the end. You'll see his face on a promotion poster soon. You'll see him headlining a card at the Prudential Center.
"Shakur Stevenson woke America up," his coach Kay Koroma said. "Shakur Stevenson made America smile — it wasn't just Newark. People have come out of nowhere on Twitter and are talking about Shakur Stevenson. Like I told him, the smile is golden. The world loved him."
That smile, a fixture on his face even when he's throwing punches in the ring, was missing on the medal stand. Stevenson looked despondent as he was awarded his silver, and the frown remained as he held it up for the cameras that swarmed the four medalists.
Boxing's best hope is a kid from Newark
The journey, one that began in Newark when Stevenson was just 5 and started training in his grandfather's gym, didn't end here the way he wanted. Stevenson hoped that a gold medal would inspire young people in his home city, that it would help launch his professional career so he can provide for his eight younger siblings.
The way boxing icon turned promoter Floyd Mayweather gushed about him, he'll still have no problem making that a reality. "Most likely I'm going to turn pro," Stevenson said, "try to win some world titles and try to break records."
He was at a press conference when Ramirez was asked the same question about becoming a professional. Stevenson turned with interest and waited to hear the answer from the translator, and when it wasn't clear enough, he asked for clarification. He wanted a rematch.
Ramirez turned to his rival directly and said that, someday in the near future, they would fight again. That news, finally, is what put the smile back on Shakur's face.
Danny and his people don't want that L.
I forgot they had late card scheduled. Thanks for the heads up.
NO he's 41wtf?
dude is 45?
should never have been in the ring
Shane is the sparring partner for a LOT of people.
Oh shit I didn't know that was Sugar Shane thought it was a nobody that boxed like him
Damn Mosley running outta air even when sparring
They gonna tire him up on sum biter shit
Edit: Take that back he bought his shit out
PBC boxing tonight on Spike TV...
Robert Guerrero hopes a big win Saturday will lead to another welterweight title shot
Honda Center against Argentinian welterweight David Peralta (25-2-1, 14 KOs).
The 6-foot-1 Peralta presents a complex boxing style that helped him knock down Marcos Maidana as an amateur. He’s a test to ensure Guerrero won’t step off the gas in a non-title fight, as he did in getting knocked down by Aron Martinez last year at StubHub Center.
And the bout is an opportunity for Guerrero to remain ready for the next big fight in boxing’s deepest division.
“The key is … getting back on my game, working my skills, using my legs, hand speed, lateral movement,” Guerrero said. “These are the type of fights you’ve got to take to stay sharp.”
For his U.S. debut, Peralta, who turns 34 next week, said he trained hard and was hoping for an upset win over Guerrero.
“Each fighter has a gift with his body, and I believe I have an advantage being taller [than Guerrero],” Peralta said through a translator. “I believe I’m the third-best Argentinian behind Maidana and [junior-welterweight] Lucas Matthysse, but I’ve never had a promoter who’s given me a chance.
“A fighter coming to fight [an opponent like Guerrero] means the opportunity is there for me.”
Guerrero, meanwhile, wants to stage a good show so he can be slotted back into a title bout or a title eliminator by PBC founder and his manager Al Haymon.
“He’s the mastermind of boxing, so it’s get this fight out of the way, stay sharp and get back to where I want to be,” Guerrero said. “There’s so many big fights out there. I want to fight the best, fight everybody, and I want to leave this sport knowing I did that, as I try to put together a Hall of Fame career.”
Also on the Saturday card, Terrell Gausha (18-0, nine KOs), a 2012 Olympian and middleweight from Cleveland, meets New York’s Steven Martinez (16-2, 13 KOs).
“I’m trying to be great at what I do,” Gausha said.
And super-middleweight Alfredo Angulo (24-5, 20 KOs) returns from a near-yearlong respite to meet Mexico City’s Freddy Hernandez (33-8, 22 KOs).
“I’m ready for this division, and I’ll prove that,” Angulo, 34, said. “I’ve restructured myself [with a new trainer] and it refreshed me. I had lost some of my hunger. Mentally, now, I’m back to who I was.”
FAST FACTS
When: Saturday; First bout 3:30 p.m.
Where: Honda Center.
Television: Spike TV, 6 p.m. PDT.
Tickets: $31-$203
Who: Robert Guerrero, Gilroy, Calif., (33-4-1, 18 KOs) vs. David Peralta, Argentina, (25-2-1, 14 KOs), welterweights; Terrell Gausha vs. Steven Martinez, middleweights; Alfredo Angulo vs. Freddy Hernandez, super-middleweights.
Robert Guerrero hopes a big win Saturday will lead to another welterweight title shot
Honda Center against Argentinian welterweight David Peralta (25-2-1, 14 KOs).
The 6-foot-1 Peralta presents a complex boxing style that helped him knock down Marcos Maidana as an amateur. He’s a test to ensure Guerrero won’t step off the gas in a non-title fight, as he did in getting knocked down by Aron Martinez last year at StubHub Center.
And the bout is an opportunity for Guerrero to remain ready for the next big fight in boxing’s deepest division.
“The key is … getting back on my game, working my skills, using my legs, hand speed, lateral movement,” Guerrero said. “These are the type of fights you’ve got to take to stay sharp.”
For his U.S. debut, Peralta, who turns 34 next week, said he trained hard and was hoping for an upset win over Guerrero.
“Each fighter has a gift with his body, and I believe I have an advantage being taller [than Guerrero],” Peralta said through a translator. “I believe I’m the third-best Argentinian behind Maidana and [junior-welterweight] Lucas Matthysse, but I’ve never had a promoter who’s given me a chance.
“A fighter coming to fight [an opponent like Guerrero] means the opportunity is there for me.”
Guerrero, meanwhile, wants to stage a good show so he can be slotted back into a title bout or a title eliminator by PBC founder and his manager Al Haymon.
“He’s the mastermind of boxing, so it’s get this fight out of the way, stay sharp and get back to where I want to be,” Guerrero said. “There’s so many big fights out there. I want to fight the best, fight everybody, and I want to leave this sport knowing I did that, as I try to put together a Hall of Fame career.”
Also on the Saturday card, Terrell Gausha (18-0, nine KOs), a 2012 Olympian and middleweight from Cleveland, meets New York’s Steven Martinez (16-2, 13 KOs).
“I’m trying to be great at what I do,” Gausha said.
And super-middleweight Alfredo Angulo (24-5, 20 KOs) returns from a near-yearlong respite to meet Mexico City’s Freddy Hernandez (33-8, 22 KOs).
“I’m ready for this division, and I’ll prove that,” Angulo, 34, said. “I’ve restructured myself [with a new trainer] and it refreshed me. I had lost some of my hunger. Mentally, now, I’m back to who I was.”
FAST FACTS
When: Saturday; First bout 3:30 p.m.
Where: Honda Center.
Television: Spike TV, 6 p.m. PDT.
Tickets: $31-$203
Who: Robert Guerrero, Gilroy, Calif., (33-4-1, 18 KOs) vs. David Peralta, Argentina, (25-2-1, 14 KOs), welterweights; Terrell Gausha vs. Steven Martinez, middleweights; Alfredo Angulo vs. Freddy Hernandez, super-middleweights.
Angulo is slow and has ZERO head movement.
That was a knockdown....
Guerrero should have ditched his Warrio-looking ass pops and got a real trainer 5 years ago.
He's a gateway fighter at 147 now. I'd ask for an immediate rematch.
Let the excuses...COMMENCE:
man he's the reason ghost has always been a gatekeeper
he wouldve been much better with a real trainer
smh
and if shawn porter keeps fucking with his dad kenny, hes next