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PinoleroNicoya85

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Brazilian racism fallout misses the point

You may recall how Gremio were thrown out of the Copa do Brasil after their fans were found guilty of racially abusing Santos keeper Aranha.

Personally, I've long been in favor of punishing individuals rather than entire clubs, except in situations where there is evidence the club is colluding with or simply not doing enough to police crowd behaviour. I thought holding individuals accountable for their actions is the fairest and most effective way of dealing with this. Public naming and shaming works well in most cases.

On this occasion, a number of Gremio supporters were punished, but the media focus was entirely on one person, a young lady named Patricia Moreira. She was caught on camera shouting "Macaco!" which is a type of monkey, at Aranha.

She lost her job and was roundly abused on social media, where she also received death threats. Last week, someone set fire to her house.

- Blatter praises Gremio ban

Does it mean the "name and shame" approach is wrong? I don't think so. Folks need to be held responsible for what they do, whether it's hurling racial insults or trying burn down a house.

But it does raise a question about the media. If Moreira, instead of being an attractive young lady, had been a middle-aged balding pot-bellied man, would she have received so much attention? Would we even know her name?

The fact of the matter is that there were hundreds of supporters racially abusing Aranha that day. Every one of them should have been punished and identified. Perhaps if that had happened then the backlash would have been spread out across all the racist abusers.

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PinoleroNicoya85

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Enner Valencia
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I don't know what is up with Everton's defense this year. Had them possibly challenging for the 4th spot but they are conceding way too much. Not sure if they lost anyone during the transfer window but their defending was much better last year....back line just looks porous.
 

DJCandle

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yeah but thats still only 2-3 tho

At their house? That's a huge momentum shift for anyone at that point. That fucker brought them back into the game with that absurd call and that was it.

I usually don't go on refs at all, but in this case, it's hard to just turn the blind eye to a pen that never was.

But whatever, we'll get it right.
 

Rudey

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At their house? That's a huge momentum shift for anyone at that point. That fucker brought them back into the game with that absurd call and that was it.

I usually don't go on refs at all, but in this case, it's hard to just turn the blind eye to a pen that never was.

But whatever, we'll get it right.

Be realistic man, Man utd backline is very leaky. One player can't be blame and the wing and center backs are not good. 4 goals in 21 mins :smh:
 

DJCandle

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Be realistic man, Man utd backline is very leaky. One player can't be blame and the wing and center backs are not good. 4 goals in 21 mins :smh:

Oh i'm very realistic, in fact, i'll up you one further... our back line isn't very leaky.... it's abhorrent. There's zero chemistry and understanding back there at this very moment, and Leceister exposed it, as well they should have....

BUT, this doesn't excuse the fact that the match was handed to them on a silver platter with a call that never was.

I'm over it at this point, because the match was lost at that very moment, but it's still inexcusable officiating.
 

keone

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At their house? That's a huge momentum shift for anyone at that point. That fucker brought them back into the game with that absurd call and that was it.

I usually don't go on refs at all, but in this case, it's hard to just turn the blind eye to a pen that never was
But whatever, we'll get it right.
it was fuckery fuckery I agree. But a team with rooney,falcoa, rvp, Mata, herera and di maria this shouldn't have stopped them
 

PinoleroNicoya85

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No one for Barca did much in this game, but Pedro is becoming dead weight. Meanwhile Deulofeu scored the game winner for Sevilla who are level on points with Barca.
 

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No one for Barca did much in this game, but Pedro is becoming dead weight. Meanwhile Deulofeu scored the game winner for Sevilla who are level on points with Barca.

Feel like Pedro was useful last year....but then again I think he got more playing time than he's currently getting. He's going be even more the odd man out once Luis is in the line up so :dunno:

But at least we still have yet to concede:yes:
 

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Messi already has 7 assists. When Suarez is able to play, that number is going to increase even more.:yes:

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Barca has scored 16 goals I believe, and conceded none.

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