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Yeah, I think they're what Barca need. Who knows if any of these players will get actual playing time(assuming Barca sign them), but they're needed for depth in the squad. Not just in the short term either, Xavi and co can't play forever. It looks like they need to reinforce our strikers as well, because it looks like Bojan is on his way to Roma.

I think they need to plan for a center back as well, because Puyol looks like he's nearing the end of his playing days. It's nice that Barca have defenders like Andreu Fontàs from Barca B, but a more proven player might be the safer bet.

I don't mind the moves but I think the main focus should be that back line. I think this yr really showed depth is definitely needed there (other positions as well no doubt) but definitely in the back.

Barca getting forwards worries me because the youth system is very good but they come up and don't really play much or they get players to sure up the bench but then don't play much. Like Bojan, I like him and root for him but the man gets limited action out there and with Sanchez what happens with Jeffren or Afellay and Thiago if Fabs come.

Like you said depth is needed...just seeing how Pep works the rotation once it's there.
 
I don't mind the moves but I think the main focus should be that back line. I think this yr really showed depth is definitely needed there (other positions as well no doubt) but definitely in the back.

Barca getting forwards worries me because the youth system is very good but they come up and don't really play much or they get players to sure up the bench but then don't play much. Like Bojan, I like him and root for him but the man gets limited action out there and with Sanchez what happens with Jeffren or Afellay and Thiago if Fabs come.

Like you said depth is needed...just seeing how Pep works the rotation once it's there.

It's true.

:lol:

 
River went down 0-2 to Belgrano and their fans stormed the field.:lol::lol::smh::smh::eek::eek:

They look like they're on their way to relegation.

(For those unaware, that's like Real Madrid being relegated)
 
Neymar needs to go to europe... it's time for him to show those skills on a bigger stage

Yep... I remember when Robinho was killing it at Santos 10 years ago and he never really lived up to his potential... Neymar is way more talented than Robinho but it is time for him to move on
 
Malaga agree Joaquin deal

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Joaquin has agreed to join the Malaga revolution

Malaga have continued their summer spending spree with the capture of Valencia winger Joaquin Sanchez.

• Malaga in battle for Velez star
• Malaga seal Toulalan deal
• Van Nistelrooy joins Malaga

Joaquin, 29, has spent the last five seasons at Valencia after joining Los Che from Real Betis for a fee in the region of €24 million. He has won 50 caps for Spain.

Although financial details of the transfer have not been announced, it has been reported in Spain that Malaga will pay around €4 million.

Malaga said in a statement on their website: "Malaga and Valencia have reached an agreement for the transfer of Joaquin.

"The two clubs have closed an agreement for the player to become Malaga's seventh signing for next season, after Diego Buonanotte, Martin Demichelis, Ruud van Nistelrooy, Nacho Monreal, Jeremy Toulalan and Joris Mathijsen. (and they also have "la bestia" Baptista)

"Joaquin has also reached an agreement with Malaga and in the coming days will sign his contract with the club."

Malaga finished last season in 11th spot in La Liga, three points above the relegation zone, after winning five of their final seven games.

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/s...ee-signing-of-valencia-winger-joaquin?cc=5901
 
Palermo battle Gunners for Alvarez

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Ricardo Alvarez helped guide Velez Sarsfield to the 2011 Clausura title

Palermo are pessimistic about their chances of signing Velez Sarsfield midfielder Ricardo Alvarez due to the interest of Arsenal and Malaga.

• 'Pastore worth more than Sanchez'

Alvarez, 23, is said to have attracted the interest of clubs including Inter Milan, Roma and Sevilla with Argentinean champions Velez demanding a fee of €12 million for his services.

Palermo may need to sign a replacement for Argentina playmaker Javier Pastore if any club is willing to meet his €50 million asking price, but club president Maurizio Zamparini believes Arsenal and Malaga may be better placed to secure his signature.

Zamparini told Corriere dello Sport: "We are very interested in Alvarez, but it will be difficult to bring him to Palermo considering that there are other clubs like Arsenal and Malaga interested in him."

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/s...malaga-for-velez-star-ricardo-alvarez?cc=5901
 
mad i missed the game...and the one i forget to watch he plays in (well missed some other games but nevertheless)

Yea the kid did well. He's definitely what's missing in that US lineup.

and interesting to see the united fans w/ no comments about getting ashley young.

As for Ashley Young, i'm cool with it. I don't exactly know how he's gonna fit in, so I leave to Sir Alex's hand's, but a player of his quality isn't going backwards that's for sure.
 
U.S.-Mexico Gold Cup Final Preview With Eric Wynalda

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For a preview of Saturday’s Gold Cup final between the U.S. and Mexico, we caught up with former U.S. national team player, Eric Wynalda, 42, who will be in the studio for Fox Soccer Channel, which will air the 9:00 PM game.

It’s an important game for both sides. At stake: a berth in the 2013 Confederations Cup, a crucial tune-up event for the 2014 World Cup in Brazil.

Wynalda, the second leading goal-scorer in U.S. team history (34), has become sort of the Johnny Miller of soccer commentating: bold, brash and very opinionated. In some way, his style of commentating is a sign of the growth of U.S. soccer.

Below, Wynalda dishes on the U.S.-Mexico rivalry, coach Bob Bradley’s status and what he fears is the stagnation of the sport at the youth level. He also gives us his prediction.

Forbes: Talk a little bit about the U.S.-Mexico rivalry. Saturday’s game will be played in the Rose Bowl in Pasadena. It’s expected that most of the fans there will be cheering for Mexico and that it will feel almost like a home game for them. Does than anger the U.S. players?

Wynalda: U.S.-Mexico is always a special occasion. Problem is—especially when the game has greater meaning, like a World cup qualifier or Gold Cup—it takes patriotism to a whole new level.

Let me make this very clear: there is no “hate” in the hearts or heads of the players. We have the utmost respect for each other. It’s the people in the stands who always start the problem because they are the problem. When the U.S. national anthem starts so does the tension.

The one thing that gets under the U.S. players’ skin more than anything else is when the “Mexicans” boo our anthem. Especially since most of them are Mexican-Americans.

Bottom line is that we both, as countries that is, want to claim that we are the best from our region. Saturday’s game is the decider.

The fighting on the field is all in the spirit of the game. Trust me, we want to beat Mexico more than any other team. I have played in a few of these and they are games I will never forget.

What’s your take on Bob Bradley and the job he’s done? He has a lot of critics out there and those voices have been raised a notch with some of the team’s recent performances.

Bob Bradley will always be criticized. That’s part of the job and even he knows that. I think he handles it pretty well. He has had great success and is taking the team in the right direction.

He has answered the critics on most occasions and I would think this will be another one of those times where he gets it right.

My suggestion to the US fans is to back him. He’s doing a good job.

What’s the biggest strength of the U.S. team?

The U.S. team is “good” in most positions. We fight together, stick together and rely on each other. We need everybody to play well to get big results. This team can beat anybody.

The biggest weakness?

Personality. Sometimes I feel it’s the only thing they lack. And each guy needs to focus on what they are good at and get great at it. Too many “versatile” players and not enough game-changers.

What’s with the recent benching of Landon Donovan, who is supposedly the best player on the U.S. side?

Landon Donovan needs to be pushed. He needs to earn his spot. Too many guys are ready and willing to step in and make a difference. His game is at its best when he brings energy. When he is just out there going through the motions, he’s nothing special and Bob Bradley has shown that he isn’t afraid of introducing him to the bench. The message has been sent and received: “We don’t need you as much as you need us. Bring it or take a seat.” His response was pretty good. He’s a competitor and just needed a little reminder that nobody is bigger than the team.

Are you optimistic or pessimistic about the way U.S. soccer, as a whole, is going?

Wow, soccer as a whole in this country. The tri-decade dilemma!

As a whole, both MLS and US soccer have made the presentation of the game much better, but it is really FOX Soccer who has stepped up and opened access to the game in this country. FOX made a commitment and an investment to show the game 24/7/365. No other network has done that. Following that, the stadiums, leagues, and marketing of our players is better and fans are noticing.

The players are growing in numbers. The coaching needs to catch up.

Simply put, the abilities and talents of the players now exceed the knowledge of the coaching. It’s the definition of stagnation. We have the experience. We neither tap into it nor utilize it enough to make the on the field product better. We don’t need to get foreign help. We need to achieve our own identity.

Nice Fox Soccer plug! Next question: will the U.S. ever produce a world-class striker? A Renaldo, a Messi, even a Chicharito?

The next world star could very well be in some high school or elementary school right now. Most likely, he’s being over coached. He is being told what he needs to do to be great by somebody who doesn’t know what that is. He is being stifled from developing into the player that he could be because of what he is being told he should be. It’s the saddest part about our system. The “industry” of soccer in this country has become our greatest enemy. Until that changes, I am a realist.

The best advice I can give players today is, if it’s not your own voice you hear when you get the ball, we have a problem. Be yourself and express yourself. Good, bad or indifferent it will always be you.

How do you see Saturday’s game going?

USA wins 1-0 on a free kick. Captain Carlos Bocanegra heads in a Landon Donovan cross. 86th min.

Well, that’s at least what I dreamt last night.

http://blogs.forbes.com/monteburke/2011/06/24/u-s-mexico-gold-cup-final-preview-with-eric-wynalda/
 
Our defense is horrible.....all I'm gonna say about that, no need to explain, we all saw how it went.

But Freddy played great, hopefully this is a sign of things to come.


Sidenotes:
Woman's WC anyone?? (Doubt it just wanted to know, not really checking for it myself)

And its interesting how we cover a lot of football topics but we never get into the tabloid stuff like this stuff w/ Giggs I just heard about. Not saying we should just interesting how we can keep things so focused on what happens on the pitch.
 
I wish we had that kind of team speed to attack. :smh::smh::smh:

You know what's funny? We do. As much as I criticize Bob Bradley, his lineup was genius. With Donovan and Adu attacking, Mexico had no answer. They couldn't contain those two, and wouldn't have figured it out had Bradley stuck to the game plan.

But alas the 2nd goal fell and it was back to bunker Bob.

Chepo De La Torre got it spot on after Mexico's second. Pull Chicharito down, and let Barrera and Gio run a muck at our defense.

And it worked to perfection.

Can we please get a new manager now!?!?!?!
 
River deep, mountain high

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River's players are distraught after they failed to get the 2-0 defeat of Belgrano they required

The great Konrad Adenauer, who led West Germany as chancellor after the end of the Second World War, once said that "history is the sum total of things that could have been avoided."

Football fans in Argentina might reflect on that, if they've heard it. Because I type, on a Monday morning, in the aftermath of an historic event in football. Here in Buenos Aires, something happened that many of Argentina's football fans literally never thought they'd see in their lifetimes; River Plate have been relegated from the country's top flight.

River were promoted in December 1908, and have been ever-present in the Primera Division in the 102-and-a-half years since (the longest of any side in the country). Since Argentina's league turned professional in 1931, only River, Independiente and Boca Juniors have played every season in the top flight. As from August, when the 2011-12 season gets underway, that exclusive club will be cut to just the latter two.

But if you've followed the Argentine season with half an eye, you're probably aware that while there are two championships played each season, River ended the season-long, 38-game table (used for Copa Sudamericana qualification) in sixth, and the Clausura in ninth. So how, you could be forgiven for asking, were they obliged to play a relegation play-off?

I've written before about Argentina's relegation system for ESPNsoccernet - check the third paragraph of this piece an explanation - but River improved after that piece back in October, and it seemed they'd done enough to stay clear. Then, however, came defeat in the superclásico to Boca Juniors, and a dreadful run which saw them pick up only three of a possible 21 points in the final seven matches of the Torneo Clausura, with pressure added by the knowledge that the previous two seasons' low points totals were weighing more heavily with every dropped point this year. The system brought in to save River, when they should have gone down in 1983, has relegated them eighteen years on. In none of the last three seasons would they have gone down in a conventional system.

Poor form and poor selection for the first leg of the play-off against Belgrano effectively doomed them. Under a year ago, Rogelio Funes Mori was feted as the next big thing. In January Daniel Passarella, River's president, announced he'd turned down an offer from Benfica for €15 million. Few in Argentina still thought him worth that much, but the suspicion remained that someone in Europe was bound to pay a huge figure. Now, River would be delighted if they could get anyone to take Funes Mori. So why he started alone up front for the first leg, God (and manager J.J. Lopez) only knows.

River lost that game 2-0, and frustrations grew to the point where shortly into the second half, a handful of the club's barra brava hooligans ran onto the pitch, threatening their own players and grabbing hold of centre-back Adalberto Roman, whose handball had gifted Belgrano the opener from the penalty spot. Defeat left River requiring a two-goal victory in the second leg (away goals aren't used, but the incumbent side in the Primera stays up in the event of an aggregate draw), which always looked a tall order; River's decent season was built on defence, mainly through lack of a goalscoring striker, and they'd won by two goals only once this year, back in February.

As such, after Wednesday's game, those of us (yes, I'm a River fan myself) of a less optimistic disposition were already reconciling ourselves to no longer supporting a Primera side. Two minutes into Sunday's match, Belgrano had a goal correctly disallowed for offside. And then the cruel spectre of hope reared its head: Mariano Pavone gave River the lead after just five minutes and they had virtually the whole match to score a second.

It didn't arrive. Just after the hour, Guillermo Farre capitalised on a hashed clearance to get Belgrano an equaliser on the day and give River half an hour to score two. Minutes later the hosts had a penalty, which Pavone stepped up to take, and hit straight at the goalkeeper. From that moment the tears started to flow in the Monumental, and the nation gaped at their TV sets as a condemned side played on in the knowledge that they were already going down.

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With moments to go, as had happened on Wednesday, some idiots started trying to get onto the pitch - a harder prospect at the Monumental, which has a moat and running track - and the referee decided after a couple of minutes' delay not to play the final 30 seconds. Riots in the streets around the stadium afterwards left tens injured, one policeman airlifted to hospital, and unconfirmed reports that a fan had died of heart complications inside the stadium (whether as the result of violence or having become too emotionally involved in the game wasn't clear) didn't help the mood.

Stadium facilities were attacked, and the ground - which on the 24th July hosts the Copa America final - will need repairs. Sanctions are likely to be brought once the smoke has cleared. As well as Passarella coming under increasing pressure, some are bound to also turn on Jose María Aguilar, whose incompetent and corrupt presidency prior to Passarella is the root cause of this rot.

It's a truly historic moment, and will to take a lot of getting used to. Next season will see no superclásico, no hope of adding to their 33 Argentine championships. Fifteen years previously to the day, they were crowned champions of South America for the second - and to date last - time. This season has ended just as historically, but far more sadly. River, no doubt, will be back - but that doesn't change the fact that Argentina is a country gawping at a scene it never thought it would see, and one which is all the more shocking for having been so eminently avoidable.

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/columns/story/_/id/930619/sam-kelly:-river-deep,-mountain-high?cc=5901
 
Quintet agree to pay Neymar fee

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Santos president Luis Alvaro de Oliveira Ribeiro has confirmed five clubs in Europe have agreed to pay Neymar's €45 million release clause.

The clubs - named in widespread reports throughout Brazil as Real Madrid, Barcelona, Chelsea, Manchester City and Russian side Anzhi Makhachkala - will now be given permission to speak to Neymar.

"We don't want to sell the player, but of course there is a release clause in his contract that can be paid," he told ESPN Brasil. "Five European clubs have offered to match the clause.

"I cannot name them because there is an agreement between Santos and the clubs, but they are the most important European clubs. They have asked to speak to the player and obviously we've allowed them to."

He added: "The clubs have behaved ethically. They sought out Santos first and were willing to pay the clause. With this ethical approach, they can talk to anyone - with Neymar's father, with [agent] Wagner Ribeiro, and with the representatives of Neymar."

Chelsea had seen a number of bids rejected for Neymar last summer before the 19-year-old Brazil international signed a new long-term deal with the club.

Ribeiro added: "Last year, Chelsea's attitude was different. Their first action was to seek out the player's representatives."

The news comes just a day after Ribeiro said Neymar wanted to become the best player in the world while remaining in Brazil, and he remains confident that the forward will opt to stay at Santos.

"These clubs can come and make their offers, but if he wants to stay at Santos then he'll say no and stay at Santos," he said. "It's not a good time for him to leave.

"The 2014 World Cup is coming and the eyes of the world will be on Brazil. If he stays, and wins the Club World Cup, the Olympics and maybe the World Cup, he will become an idol and can go to Europe having done it all.

"Right now, he lives close to his family and friends in the city he loves and is at a club that is right for him. There's no reason for him to go now. I think he'll stay."
 
Mexican players sent home from Copa

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Eight players from Mexico's Copa America team were handed six month suspensions for violating team training rules, the result of a scandal involving prostitutes visiting players at the team's hotel in Quito, Ecuador.

The Mexican team, in Ecuador preparing for the start of South America's championship, is made up of under-22 level players, including Barcelona's Jonathan dos Santos.

The younger brother of senior national team star Giovani, Jonathan is the most prominent player excused from the team for ethical violations and breaking team rules, according to the Mexican Football Federation. He is also accused, along with Nestor Vidrio, of leading the prostitutes into player rooms at Quito's Intercontinental Hotel.

The scandal was uncovered after various national team members reported the theft of iPhones and iPads from their rooms. According to AS.com, review of the security tape by hotel personnel showed players letting prostitutes along with the alleged robbers into their hotel rooms.

The players named are: Israel Jimenez, Nestor Vidrio, dos Santos, Marco Fabian, Jorge Hernandez, Javier Cortes, David Cabrera and Nestor Calderon. They will be replaced by Kristian Alvarez, Antonio Gallardo, Edgar Pacheco, Alan Pulido, Emilio Orrantia Ulises Davila, Diego de Buen and Oswaldo Alanis.

http://msn.foxsports.com/foxsoccer/...-players-sent-home-jonathan-dos-santos-062811
 
Palermo reveal €50m Pastore bid

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Javier Pastore looks headed for Spain or England after Palermo president Maurizio Zamparini revealed a bid of €50 million has been made for the player.

• Pastore claims Barca talks
• 'Pastore worth more than Sanchez'
• Trio in race for Pastore
• Live Transfer blog

Pastore, who turned 22 last week, has become one of the hottest properties in European football with his performances for Palermo since moving to the club from Huracan two years ago.

Zamparini refused to be drawn on which club had made the offer, but Real Madrid, Manchester City, Manchester United and Chelsea appear to be his most likely suitors.

He netted 11 Serie A goals from midfield last season, and provided five assists, as Palermo finished eighth in the table.

"There is only a 10% chance that he will stay with us," Zamparini said. "At the moment he is in Argentina preparing for the Copa America and his agent is evaluating three or four offers - but none from Italian sides.

"It's exactly what is occurring at Udinese with Alexis Sanchez. I can also confirm that a foreign club made me a €50m offer yesterday [Tuesday]. What nationality were they? Icelandic ...

"There were Italian sides who wanted him, but you'll have to ask them if they are still interested.

"The player himself has no preference over his next destination. At the moment he is calmly just waiting for us to give him news.

"Pastore is worth more than €50m and in two or three years' time his price will double.

"Is he better than Ganso of Santos? I don't know him very well, but Pastore is worth three or four times more than him."

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/s...-reveal-€50m-offer-for-javier-pastore?cc=5901
 
De Gea agrees United move

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Manchester United have signed David De Gea from Atletico Madrid for a fee in the region of £18 million.

De Gea, 20, has signed a five-year deal with the Premier League champions to become Edwin van der Sar's successor. He joins Phil Jones and Ashley Young in moving to Old Trafford to take Sir Alex Ferguson's spending to £50 million this month.

The move comes just four days after De Gea helped Spain's Under-21 side win the European Championships in Denmark.

"I feel very proud and I can't wait to start playing here," De Gea told MUTV. "When a club the size of Manchester United comes in for you it obviously makes you very, very happy.

"I saw their interest as an extra motivation to work even harder to show off my ability. It's a great privilege to be part of a club like United and I'm keen to do my best and show what I can do."

De Gea won the Europa League and the European Super Cup with Atletico, but he is yet to win a senior cap for Spain with the tough competition of Iker Casillas, Pepe Reina and Victor Valdes ahead of him in the pecking order.

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/s...agrees-five-year-deal-with-man-united?cc=5901
 
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