Official Marvel's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. Discussion (12/1/17 @8PM)

blackbull1970

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Watched episode 2 this morning.

Nothing big and no big surprises.

They did some info on the creation of the Super Soldier serum and the origin and some info of Patton Oswald's character Koening we saw a couple of season's ago.

Next week introduces the Agent Carter character Agent Sousa.
 
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blackbull1970

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This time travel is kind of throwing me off if you go by what the Ancient One said in Endgame to Bruce.

If this show is going to follow what she said, it’s gonna throw everything off especially with Steve Rogers going back and doing who knows what.

And then we got Loki who grabbed the Space Stone. We won’t find out the story until his series debuts.

I’m hoping they don’t fuck AoS up in its Finale. I hate to see this series end like that train wreck “Lost”.
 

playahaitian

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This time travel is kind of throwing me off if you go by what the Ancient One said in Endgame to Bruce.

If this show is going to follow what she said, it’s gonna throw everything off especially with Steve Rogers going back and doing who knows what.

And then we got Loki who grabbed the Space Stone. We won’t find out the story until his series debuts.

I’m hoping they don’t fuck AoS up in its Finale. I hate to see this series end like that train wreck “Lost”.

don't worry fam

they gonna work it all out
 

darth frosty

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This time travel is kind of throwing me off if you go by what the Ancient One said in Endgame to Bruce.

If this show is going to follow what she said, it’s gonna throw everything off especially with Steve Rogers going back and doing who knows what.

And then we got Loki who grabbed the Space Stone. We won’t find out the story until his series debuts.

I’m hoping they don’t fuck AoS up in its Finale. I hate to see this series end like that train wreck “Lost”.
don't worry fam

they gonna work it all out
I agree also keep in mind what the ancient one said about time travel was in relation to the infinity stones (Powerful COSMIC forces of nature) This, like most AoS plotlines, is lower 2nd or 3rd tier power levels.
 

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This time travel is kind of throwing me off if you go by what the Ancient One said in Endgame to Bruce.

If this show is going to follow what she said, it’s gonna throw everything off especially with Steve Rogers going back and doing who knows what.

And then we got Loki who grabbed the Space Stone. We won’t find out the story until his series debuts.

I’m hoping they don’t fuck AoS up in its Finale. I hate to see this series end like that train wreck “Lost”.


dont work about it
nothing on any of the tv shows impact the MCU

there are actually 2 SHIELDs...the one on the tv show and the one in the movies with Nick Fury. As far as the MCU is concerned Colston still dead...smh
 

playahaitian

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dont work about it
nothing on any of the tv shows impact the MCU

there are actually 2 SHIELDs...the one on the tv show and the one in the movies with Nick Fury. As far as the MCU is concerned Colston still dead...smh

Is this confirmed?
 

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Agents Of S.H.I.E.L.D.’s Clark Gregg Talks Agent Carter Crossover And More Surprises
JUN. 6. 2020 2:14 PM
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Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. is back and the final season has been packed with a lot of exciting things for longtime fans. After all, there have been promises the series will avoid treading the path of another series’ controversial outcome. And if that isn't enough great news, Clark Gregg is teasing even more surprises to come.


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While fans have already gotten to see some major MCU tie-ins within the first two episodes, they also have that Agent Carter crossover, which will begin with next week's episode. After some early speculation, it was eventually confirmed that Enver Gjokaj would appear on the final season of S.H.I.E.L.D., reprising his role as Daniel Sousa. Agent Carter fans will recall that Sousa was Peggy Carter’s love interest in the series.
Aside from the Agent Carter connection, Clark Gregg indicates there are more surprises where that came from. Asked what it was like to have some blasts from the past return, Gregg said:
It wouldn’t have been a good final season unless Patton [Oswalt] was there. He was the secret weapon that showed up and made our show better, all the time, like he does, and is a pleasure to be around. And I loved Agent Carter, so I was really excited to have Enver [Gjokaj] around, playing Agent Sousa. We loved him. It was great to have him around. And there are a few other surprises and interesting versions of past people. That’s all I’m gonna say.


Clark Gregg always knows how to put out a great tease, and his comments to Collider were no different. It sounds like Patton Oswalt, and Agent Carter’s Enver Gjokaj are far from the only ones making their way back for Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.’s final season. And with the time-traveling drama surrounding this new season, it definitely makes sense that this would be the case.

One of the more interesting aspects of Clark Gregg's comments is his mention of seeing new versions of past people. Could this mean we could see some younger versions of some major MCU characters? There's always a chance we could see a young Howard Stark (played by Dominic Cooper) come into the picture again. Or maybe we'll see some version of S.H.I.E.L.D. traitor Grant Ward. The possibilities are endless.
Time will tell who ends up popping up and, since fans aren't far into Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.’s final season, there's plenty of time for some big names to cross paths with our favorite agents. And hopefully, the big questions that have been raised so far will be answered.
 

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Why Agents Of S.H.I.E.L.D.'s Heartbreaking Loss Had To Happen
JUN. 3. 2020 8:03 PM
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Spoilers ahead for the second episode of Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. Season 7, called "Know Your Onions."
The final season of Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. means that all bets are off for what can happen and who might survive to the end of the series, and traveling through time on the Zephyr time machine presents dangers the heroes haven't faced before. In the premiere, Simmons revealed that the Zephyr can only follow the enemy Chronicoms through time, and the time windows are limited. In "Know Your Onions," S.H.I.E.L.D. proved that it wasn't messing around with its rules for time travel. The agents lost Enoch in a heartbreaking twist, but it was totally necessary.


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The question of whether or not they should kill Freddie to prevent the rise of Hydra became more or less moot when the agents discovered that the time window was closing in 17 minutes, so they had very little time to wrap up the action and get back to the Zephyr before it jumped in time without them. Freddie survived, leaving the timeline intact for now, and most of the good guys made it back in time. Poor Enoch was just a little bit too slow in leaving the 1931 version of Koenig behind and returning to the ship.
Honestly, even if you don't like or care about Enoch, the defeated look on his face when he realized the Zephyr was leaving without him was pretty heartbreaking, if understated. This is somebody who chose Fitz and Simmons over all his fellow Chronicoms to help them and save Earth. Simmons noted that she wouldn't be alive if not for Enoch (which is already true a couple of times over without S.H.I.E.L.D. even revealing what happened during the FitzSimmons time jump yet), and Enoch identified himself as Fitz's best friend. He didn't deserve to be left behind!
Still, I would argue that somebody needed to be left behind, and better that it was Enoch than any of the others. S.H.I.E.L.D. really needed to raise the stakes and prove to the agents that not even Simmons can control how the Zephyr travels through time, and traveling on the "tides" of time means that they have to hustle to avoid being left behind with no hope of being returned to their own time.


The loss of Enoch should make the threat real for the agents, and probably pack an emotional punch for plenty of viewers as well. S.H.I.E.L.D. isn't messing around, and bad things can happen to the good guys. Throw in the fact that this is the final season, and all bets are indeed off. With FitzSimmons separated already, S.H.I.E.L.D. can't rip them apart again for drama, and May's life is no longer in the balance. The threat of being left behind now seems to be the biggest danger other than the Chronicoms.

That said, Enoch being the one left behind is pretty ideal. If any of the others were stuck in 1931, they might not have lived long enough to even be born, let alone make it to 2020. Previous seasons proved that Enoch can take the long way to travel through time, as long as he needs to move forward rather than backward. He kept frozen Fitz safe for decades back in early Season 5 before Fitz's death and all the paradoxes, so it's entirely possible that Enoch could pop up again when the agents arrive in a later era.
S.H.I.E.L.D. delivered a heartbreaking loss in "Know Your Onions," but it was also a loss that ended with the stranded Enoch making drinks for Koenig and promising to tell him stories about S.H.I.E.L.D. and robots. This wasn't Fitz dying or Coulson succumbing to his disease or even Bobbi and Hunter departing for the spinoff that never happened. Enoch could be back sooner rather than later. It was a necessary tragedy, but not one that will have to be permanent.
 

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Marvel's Agents Of S.H.I.E.L.D. Season 7: 8 Big Questions We Have After Episode 2
JUN. 5. 2020 1:15 PM
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Spoilers ahead for the second episode of Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. Season 7, called "Know Your Onions."
The seventh and final season of Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. has aired its second episode, and "Know Your Onions" left more questions than it answered. Sure, the episode delivered some more background on Koenig, filled in a blank or two about the Malick family, and proved that the agents can stop the Chronicoms from succeeding in their missions, but there are more mysteries than ever heading into the rest of the final season.


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While some of my questions after this latest episode center on what has to happen to the timeline for Mack to wear snazzy 1930s suits on a regular basis, there are some much bigger ones that could change the course of the entire last season. Read on for eight questions about Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. Season 7 after Episode 2!
What's Wrong With May?
Although Simmons' timely intervention at the end of Season 6 brought May back after being only briefly dead, she doesn't seem to be the same May who battled Izel. She woke up determined to join her team in the field because it's her job to protect them, not listening to Enoch about needing to rest or even needing to wear period-appropriate clothing. They got into a fight that ended with May beating Enoch into submission with a fire extinguisher, after which she shrugged off LMD Coulson and submitted to Simmons sedating her again. Is this a psychological effect of what happened to her? Or did Simmons' tech do something to her to alter her? May seemed to show some Chronicom-esque characteristics after waking up.


Did Yo-Yo Lose Her Powers?
Yo-Yo survived being infected by the Shrike at the end of Season 6, but something is seemingly wrong with her in Season 7 in the aftermath. In "Know Your Onions," Yo-Yo had the chance to use her powers and grab a falling wine bottle before it could smash and alert the Chronicoms to S.H.I.E.L.D.'s presence, but she seemingly couldn't do it. She didn't put up a fight when Daisy gave her an out for joining the climactic fight, either. So, did Yo-Yo lose her powers? If so, is it because the Shrike did something to her? Or perhaps the new arms Simmons brought her? Or is it a psychological block? And can she get them back?
How Long Was Simmons Gone?
The big twist at the end of Season 6 came with the reveal that FitzSimmons had invented time travel as a way to battle Chronicoms through history, and S.H.I.E.L.D. has made it clear that they were gone for a while. In fact, Fitz still isn't back. That said, Simmons and Enoch were very cagy whenever asked about how long Simmons was gone. Simmons only told Daisy that it had been too long since they'd seen each other last, and Enoch would only say that Simmons had a "considerable" amount of time to develop the treatment that had saved May's life. There must be a reason why she's not giving a number, so what is it? And how long was she gone?

Where's Fitz?
As if the mystery of how long Simmons was gone wasn't enough on the FitzSimmons front, Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. still hasn't given any kind of conclusive answer about Fitz. He is at least alive, based on his quick comment to Simmons over the radio in the Season 6 finale, but Simmons stated that they couldn't be together or know where the other is because the Chronicoms scanned their brains. It seems like there has to be more to the story, and Fitz surely isn't just sitting around while his wife endangers her life. So where is he? My initial theory was that Fitz stayed behind with their secret daughter, but now I'm wondering if there's a darker reason for all the FitzSimmons mysteries. Speaking of which...
Are There More LMDs?
Between the Framework fiasco, the arrival of the Chronicoms, and now the new version of Coulson, S.H.I.E.L.D. hasn't shied away from introducing characters who look human but very much are not. If Coulson can be an LMD, why can't there be more? While I don't think that's what happened to May, I am wondering about FitzSimmons. All signs point toward a lot of time passing since Simmons saw her friends last, but she hasn't aged a day other than her bangs growing out. Were FitzSimmons gone for so long that they had to replace themselves with LMDs due to age? Or does Simmons just age incredibly well and the "considerable" amount of time that passed was years rather than decades?
Is Enoch Gone For Good?
The agents successfully thwarted the Chronicoms in 1931, but they didn't succeed without a cost. Enoch was left behind when he couldn't make it back to the Zephyr before the time window closed, leaving him stranded in the '30s. It was a heartbreaking loss for Enoch judging by the look on his face, and the agents may find themselves missing their Chronicom ally and all he'd been able to do for them. The upside is that, if anybody was going to be left behind 90 years in the past, Enoch is the one who won't die of old age. He could very well pop up in any of the agents' visits to later eras; the question is whether or not he will.
Why Are They So Open About Time Travel?
Despite Deke's warning in the Season 7 premiere that they should be okay as long as they only splash around a little in the time stream rather than making waves, the agents weren't exactly going the extra mile to hide their status as time travelers. Admittedly, some of their openness was just around Koenig, but they were also dropping some future knowledge in front of Freddy, who goes on to help form Hydra. Making ripples around the wrong people could result in waves down the line, and I find myself wondering if they're going to make a mistake in the past with their openness, only to discover their error in the future when it's too late.


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Will The Zephyr Cause More Problems?
While the souped-up Zephyr is on autopilot and doesn't seem to require much in the way of guidance or steering, the end of "Know Your Onions" revealed that there are some big problems with how it handles time. Simmons was dismayed when the ship revealed that the time window was closing in only 17 minutes, and it was really a turn of luck that they were all so close to the Zephyr that they could almost all make it back in time. If the Zephyr doesn't have a way to alert the agents sooner than 17 minutes ahead of jump, more people could get left behind, especially now that Enoch isn't around to stay behind and run comms.
While we probably won't get the answers to all these questions too soon, the next episode promises to be pretty exciting. The episode airing on Wednesday, June 10 will bring back Agent Carter's Daniel Sousa, whose romantic fate at least has been in question since the events of Avengers: Endgame. Be sure to tune in to ABC at 10 p.m. ET on June 10 to see Sousa's return to the MCU on Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D., and check out our 2020 summer premiere schedule for more viewing options.
 

darth frosty

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Love the way the 1st 15 minutes of this is progressing.

Explained the nature of their time travel (well enough for now)

delightful subterfuge with agent carter

and whats better dude almost getting some on area 51 blueberry hill or seeing a 'flying saucer'?
 

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I don't watch the show anymore because I've become bored by it. However, I have a question/idea:would it be too contrived if we find out that Henry Simmons character,Mack McKenzie was a Wakandan War Dog(aka spy) all along?
 

blackbull1970

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Just finished watching this weeks episode.

Good episode.

They introduced Agent Sousa from “Agent Carter”. He had a good strong introduction.

Mac, as usual steals the show. I hope they are thinking of giving him and Yo-Yo their own show.

One good thing about this show is how they do racism, sexism and LGBT issues without being preachy about it like in the CW series. With this show they point out the stupidity of it with dialogue and actions of the characters.

Mac’s reaction of the waitress serving food and interrogating the DoD dude was done good.

And Mac, Quake, Yo-Yo and Mae trying, without coming out and say it, to get Deke to go in and interrogate was handled good. Deke cussing out “White Privelege” was funny.

Jemma , YoYo and Daisy were looking Smashable in their 1950s garb.

Looking forward to next weeks episode.
 

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Just finished watching this weeks episode.

Good episode.

They introduced Agent Sousa from “Agent Carter”. He had a good strong introduction.

Mac, as usual steals the show. I hope they are thinking of giving him and Yo-Yo their own show.

One good thing about this show is how they do racism, sexism and LGBT issues without being preachy about it like in the CW series. With this show they point out the stupidity of it with dialogue and actions of the characters.

Mac’s reaction of the waitress serving food and interrogating the DoD dude was done good.

And Mac, Quake, Yo-Yo and Mae trying, without coming out and say it, to get Deke to go in and interrogate was handled good. Deke cussing out “White Privelege” was funny.

Jemma , YoYo and Daisy were looking Smashable in their 1950s garb.

Looking forward to next weeks episode.

^^^^^
 

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Just finished watching this weeks episode.

Good episode.

They introduced Agent Sousa from “Agent Carter”. He had a good strong introduction.

Mac, as usual steals the show. I hope they are thinking of giving him and Yo-Yo their own show.

One good thing about this show is how they do racism, sexism and LGBT issues without being preachy about it like in the CW series. With this show they point out the stupidity of it with dialogue and actions of the characters.

Mac’s reaction of the waitress serving food and interrogating the DoD dude was done good.

And Mac, Quake, Yo-Yo and Mae trying, without coming out and say it, to get Deke to go in and interrogate was handled good. Deke cussing out “White Privelege” was funny.

Jemma , YoYo and Daisy were looking Smashable in their 1950s garb.

Looking forward to next weeks episode.
Everything you said was on point. Especially how good the ladies looked.
 

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Agents of SHIELD's '50s Episode Connects to Captain America: The Winter Soldier
Agents of SHIELD's latest episode hinted that someone else knew about Hydra's infiltration of SHIELD long before Captain America: The Winter Soldier.

BY MEAGAN DAMORE
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WARNING: This article contains major spoilers for "Alien Commies From the Future!", the latest Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. episode.

Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.'s latest episode suggests Daniel Sousa knew that Hydra had infiltrated the organization.

In "Alien Commies From the Future!", Director Alphonso "Mack" Mackenzie and his team ran afoul of Sousa when he visited Area 51 to observe a field test. He quickly detained Phil Coulson and Jemma Simmons, who were masquerading under false identities, then found himself confronted by Daisy "Quake" Johnson, who claimed to be working with the CIA.

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After storming into his office, Sousa found Daisy sitting at his desk. He demanded to know who she was, so she produced some fake CIA credentials for him. He moved to call CIA headquarters to confirm this, but she managed to sway him away from that by explaining -- in detail -- how Coulson and Simmons had infiltrated the base.

"Why are you really here?" he asked under his breath. "Is this about the report I sent you guys?"

Daisy paused, thinking. "I can neither confirm nor deny that," she replied.

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"Well, I hope so," he said. "Because if S.H.I.E.L.D. has been infiltrated with sleepers post-World War II, we need to root it out right now, before it takes hold."


"Look, all I can say is that you are not crazy," she told him. "And the people that you have locked up might be the key to proving it."

Of course, Daisy gave him a half-truth; after all, she was working with Coulson and Simmons all along. However, their conversation is enlightening. It proves that not only did he suspect that S.H.I.E.L.D. had been infiltrated, but that he had taken action on it. Worse still, his suspicions were right all along, and it seems like the CIA couldn't -- or perhaps wouldn't -- help.

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This, of course, all loops back to Captain America: The Winter Soldier. The 2014 film revealed Hydra had infiltrated S.H.I.E.L.D. in its early days, following WWII. Arnim Zola revealed this to Steve Rogers and Natasha Romanoff, who went on to expose the ugly truth at the end of the movie. This impacted Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. in a major way; in the Season 1 episode "Turn, Turn, Turn," the entire organization was dismantled before the team's eyes, and they have been rebuilding it ever since then.


It is unclear if Daisy will do anything with this information, like telling Sousa where and when to look for concrete proof of Hydra's infiltration. After all, she took matters into her own hands when she found out Freddy was Wilfred Malick, the father of future Hydra leader Gideon Malick, and ordered Deke to shoot him. Deke never got the chance, but her actions led to a serious rebuke from Mack and some of the others, as that would have played right into the Chronicom's plans to unravel S.H.I.E.L.D.

Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.'s final season airs Wednesdays at 10 pm ET/PT on ABC. The series stars Ming-Na Wen, Chloe Bennet, Henry Simmons, Iain De Caestecker, Natalia Cordova-Buckley, Elizabeth Henstridge and Clark Gregg.
 
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