Official NBA 2017-2018 Thread - Final day of the regular with playoff seating still unknown

M.H.C.

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wtf


who the fuck wovldve thought


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That 6 seed would've been nice right now. Don't want to see the Rockets in the first round because they'll actually play hard.
 

ansatsusha_gouki

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Blazers: 3rd in West

  • If they go 2-0, they’re the 3-seed
  • If they go 1-1 and Utah goes 2-1 or 1-2, they’re the 3-seed
Jazz: 4th in West

  • If they go 3-0, they're the 3-seed
  • Utah has split the season series with MIN/DEN, won tiebreakers over SAS/NOP/POR, lost tiebreaker to OKC
Pelicans: 5th in West

  • 2-0 and they’re in
  • 1-1 and they’re in
  • 0-2 and one of Denver and Minnesota goes 0-2 and they’re in.
  • Only out if 0-2 and DEN/MIN both go 2-0/1-1
Spurs: 6th in West

  • 2-0 and they’re in
  • 1-1 and they’re in
  • 0-2 and Denver or Minnesota goes 0-2 and they’re in
Thunder: 7th in West

  • 2-0 and they’re in
  • 1-1 and they’re in
  • 0-2 and one of Denver or Minnesota goes 0-2 and they’re in
  • Only out if 0-2 and DEN/MIN both go 2-0/1-1
Wolves: 8th in West

  • 2-0 and they’re in
  • 1-1 if Denver loses to Portland and they’re in.
  • 0-2 and they’re out
  • 1-1 if Denver goes 2-0 and they’re out
Nuggets: 9th in West

  • 0-2 and they’re out
  • 1-1 and unless OKC/NOP go 0-2, they’re out
  • 2-0 and they’re in

http://www.nba.com/article/2018/04/08/western-conference-playoff-scenarios-sundays-games
 

Amajorfucup

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#DaProcess
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Respect bro.

But i maintain that #DaProcess itself was a failure and disgrace. You guys have shit the bed on lottery picks from essentially 2005 to 2018 with two hits in the mix (one and a strong possible actually until Embiid stays healthy). You won 50 games in spite of your abject incompetence.
 

IT IS WHAT IT IS

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Respect bro.

But i maintain that #DaProcess itself was a failure and disgrace. You guys have shit the bed on lottery picks from essentially 2005 to 2018 with two hits in the mix (one and a strong possible actually until Embiid stays healthy). You won 50 games in spite of your abject incompetence.
All due respect Bro, We were a second round playoff team in 2012 so there was no process until '13. Also, respect on the initial draft pick assessment but We pulled potentially generational players out of the last 5 drafts... name another team in that span that can say that. Plus, we won the swap with Orlando regarding Saric for Payton... the only REAL failures were Okafor and Noel, Fultz is still up in the air even though I like what I see in regard to his potential.

We also turned MCW, a number 12 pick and ROY into multiple picks which have helped shape this roster which we still are benefitting from.

To say you disagree with the process is cool, to say it has been a failure is way off base Bruh...
 

Amajorfucup

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We pulled potentially generational players out of the last 5 drafts... name another team in that span that can say that.
What ever team can say they spent the last 15 years in the lottery all but two seasons bro? Again, you have a list of unmitigated bust and have Simmons (a no brainer #1 pick since 11th grade) as the only sure fire hit. Thats not a sign that the process was a success.. It just means you stunk up the joint until you finally lucked into the #1 pick that happened to be a consensus stud and he panned out.

The entire process is a disgrace to the game man... The commissioner had to step in and the league has implemented rules to prevent this embarrassment to the sport from happening again. We cant assess #DaProcess without admitting all that stuff bro.

But again, props on the 50 win season. I dam sure didnt see 50 wins coming this season. Thats to be celebrated.. But i wont be hyping #DaProcess in doing so.
 

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What ever team can say they spent the last 15 years in the lottery all but two seasons bro? Again, you have a list of unmitigated bust and have Simmons (a no brainer #1 pick since 11th grade) as the only sure fire hit. Thats not a sign that the process was a success.. It just means you stunk up the joint until you finally lucked into the #1 pick that happened to be a consensus stud and he panned out.

The entire process is a disgrace to the game man... The commissioner had to step in and the league has implemented rules to prevent this embarrassment to the sport from happening again. We cant assess #DaProcess without admitting all that stuff bro.

But again, props on the 50 win season. I dam sure didnt see 50 wins coming this season. Thats to be celebrated.. But i wont be hyping #DaProcess in doing so.
We havent been in the lottery the past 15 years and the process started when Hinkie arrive after we beat the Bulls in the playoffs. Honestly, I personally didnt agree with the tactic either.

Bottom line is, the Process brought us Embiid, Simmons, Saric, Fultz, Noel, MCW, Okafor from the lottery. The only Duds from that list are Noel and Okafor. 5 out of 7 is a helluva percentage and again, two of those are generational talents.

Thw Process was well within league rules and the only reason a lot of teams, many who are still on the treadmill or on the decline, are pissed is because they didnt think about it first.

So if you dont agree with it, Bruh I totally understand that, but to call it a failure has no substantiated evidence and ironically a few bad teams THIS season are tanking to try to duplicate it.

The reason we are sitting at 50 wins, in 3rd place in the east in a season where many people laughed at the notion of us beinf a 39-40 win team starts and ends with the process. The reason we are positioned to build on this season with such good young talent is because of the process.

The process is starting to reap dividends Bruh.... :yes:
 
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Amajorfucup

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We havent been in the lottery the past 15 years and the process started when Hinkie arrive after we beat the Bulls in the playoffs. Honestly, I personally didnt agree with the tactic either.

Bottom line is, the Process brought us Embiid, Simmons, Saric, Fultz, Noel, MCW, Okafor from the lottery. The only Duds from that list are Noel and Okafor. 5 out of 7 is a helluva percentage and again, two of those are generational talents.

Thw Process was well within league rules and rhe only reason a lot of teams, many who are still on the treadmill or on the decline, are pissed is because they didnt think about it first.

So if you dont agree with it, Bruh I totally understamd that, but to call it a failure has not sustantiated evidence and ironically a few bad teams THIS season are tanking to try to duplicate it.

The reason we are sitting at 50 wins, in 3rd place in the east in a season where many people laughed at the notion of us beinf a 39-40 win team starts and ends with the process. The reason we are positioned to build on this season with such good young talent is because of the process.

The process is starting to reap dividends Bruh.... :yes:
No one is tanking to replicate the process.. Tanking isnt a new phenomenon ... Teams have been tanking for draft slotting forever.. However, You guys purposely tanked SEASONS in order to get highest picks possible. You guys entered SEASONS refusing to compete or field competent teams and pruposely nose dived to get high picks. Thats atrocious man.. Thats a new level of disgrace and i call it a failure because of all the picks you guys got only one is a certified generational talent today (with Embiid being the potential other). And yes man, over the last 15 years you guys have been lottery about 13 times... and have shit the bed with all the picks but two.

But again, you are looking good. And if Ben actually leads you someone we can remove the word failure from it as it pertains to bottomline accounting. But as of today, im not labeling the process a success.. You lucked into the top pick the year there was a no brainer consensus #1 pick. Props.
 

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No one is tanking to replicate the process.. Tanking isnt a new phenomenon ... Teams have been tanking for draft slotting forever.. However, You guys purposely tanked SEASONS in order to get highest picks possible. You guys entered SEASONS refusing to compete or field competent teams and pruposely nose dived to get high picks. Thats atrocious man.. Thats a new level of disgrace and i call it a failure because of all the picks you guys got only one is a certified generational talent today (with Embiid being the potential other). And yes man, over the last 15 years you guys have been lottery about 13 times... and have shit the bed with all the picks but two.

But again, you are looking good. And if Ben actually leads you someone we can remove the word failure from it as it pertains to bottomline accounting. But as of today, im not labeling the process a success.. You lucked into the top pick the year there was a no brainer consensus #1 pick. Props.

Absolutely... thats why I said I didn't agree with the tactic. I've been a season ticket holder since '99 so you KNOW how pissed I was watching the bullshit they put out there. Simmons is definitely generational Bruh, and even though we've been in the lottery multiple times over the past 15 years, 10 of those were just being a bad team. There were a LOT of worse teams during that time, but only 5 can be directly attributed to Sam Hinkies process.

A lot of teams have made bad lottery picks fam, not just us, and there is absolutely no way to say in the past 5 years we've shit the bed on all but two picks. Not every lottery pick turns into an all star bruh, but we are getting DIRECT contributions from all but two of our last 7 lottery picks right now. Either in play or based on returns from those picks so our last 5 drafts have been a success Fam. You don't jump up to 3rd in your conference with 50 plus wins, two seasons after only winning 1o games with no major veteran superstar free agent acquisitions if your front office hasn't kicked ass in the draft and by making smart personnel decisions...
 

datboi

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No one is tanking to replicate the process.. Tanking isnt a new phenomenon ... Teams have been tanking for draft slotting forever.. However, You guys purposely tanked SEASONS in order to get highest picks possible. You guys entered SEASONS refusing to compete or field competent teams and pruposely nose dived to get high picks. Thats atrocious man.. Thats a new level of disgrace and i call it a failure because of all the picks you guys got only one is a certified generational talent today (with Embiid being the potential other). And yes man, over the last 15 years you guys have been lottery about 13 times... and have shit the bed with all the picks but two.

But again, you are looking good. And if Ben actually leads you someone we can remove the word failure from it as it pertains to bottomline accounting. But as of today, im not labeling the process a success.. You lucked into the top pick the year there was a no brainer consensus #1 pick. Props.
If we are all being honest the only reason the Sicers get so much heat is because we named it after Sam Hinke philosophy we he said you have to Trust The Process. What's the different between the Sixers and Timberwolves besides playing in different conferences. Minnesota yankee the same years as the Sixers the only difference is they were able to get the draft picks ahead of us. It took a little longer to enter phase II attract a top flight Free Agent.
Minnesota had Zach Lavine , Townes, Wiggins and Kris Dunn, each player we would have taken ahead of our player if we had the higher draft pick. I would compare our success against Minnesota's to see if the Process was successful.
 

datboi

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Now compare what the Sixers Minnesota have done and compare it to teams like Orlando Chicago and Knicks over the same 5-7 years trying to do it the right way by signing overpaid players and washed up veterans to absurd contracts
 
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ron_mexico

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If you think "The process" was a failure. You don't understand Sam Hinkie's concept of the process. His intention wasn't to draft a bunch of solid players who were just good enough to get you in the playoffs as a 7th or 8th seed, but with no real chance to win the Chip. He realized you need franchise/generational talent to even be in the discussion of a championship. The fact that the Sixers first playoff appearance since the process began, is as a 3rd seed (no worse than 4th) riding a 14 game winning streak... is evidence enough Hinkie's theory was correct.

So lets see..since the 2013 draft, IMO, the list of potential Franchise Changing Talent:

2013: Giannis
2014: Joel Embiid
2015: KAT, and Porzingis ( Devin Booker is a helluva talent but Phx has to win first before we crown him)
2016: Ben Simmons
2017: Too early to tell. But alot of promising young players. Not sure who is a franchise changer yet.

So How did the Sixers do during that draft stretch?
2013: Everyone missed on Giannis
2014: So far Embiid is the best player of his draft...certainly the best option on the board when we drafted.
2015: Kat wasn't an option for us, We missed on Porzingis but he and his agent wouldn't give Philly a workout or a physical or even meet with the Sixers. They made it clear that they wanted no parts of Philly with Embiid and Nerlens already on the roster, I also heard they weren't fans of "the process" and thought New York was a better run organization :lol: Anyway, they wanted to be drafted by New York. Plus Porzingis now has his own injury problems.
2016: Ben Simmons... no explanation needed.
2017: We'll see. But Fultz could be another top level talent.

When its all said and done. The Sixers missed on Giannis and didn't draft Porzinigis . In 4 years of "the process" The Sixers drafted 2 out the 4 available franchise changers and one of those 4(Porzingis) tried like hell to discourage us from drafting him.

Plus the Sixers have another lottery pick this year (Lakers), and 5 other picks, including our own 1st round pick. NOW, they can draft good/solid players to surround our stars.
 
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ron_mexico

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Now compare what the Sixers Minnesota have done and compare it to teams like Orlando Chicago and Knicks over the same 5-7 years trying to do it the right way by signing overpaid players and washed up veterans to absurd contracts
Exactly...
 

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If you think "The process" was a failure. You don't understand Sam Hinkie's concept of the process. His intention wasn't to draft a bunch of solid players who were just good enough to get you in the playoffs as a 7th or 8th seed, but with no real chance to win the Chip. He realized you need franchise/generational talent to even be in the discussion of a championship. The fact that the Sixers first playoff appearance since the process began, is as a 3rd seed (no worse than 4th) riding a 14 game winning streak... is evidence enough Hinkie's theory was correct.

So lets see..since the 2013 draft, IMO, the list of potential Franchise Changing Talent:

2013: Giannis
2014: Joel Embiid
2015: KAT, and Porzingis ( Devin Booker is a helluva talent but Phx has to win first before we crown him)
2016: Ben Simmons
2017: Too early to tell. But alot of promising young players. Not sure who is a franchise changer yet.

So How did the Sixers do during that draft stretch?
2013: Everyone missed on Giannis
2014: So far Embiid is the best player of his draft...certainly the best option on the board when we drafted.
2015: Kat wasn't an option for us, We missed on Porzingis but he and his agent wouldn't give Philly a workout or a physical or even meet with the Sixers. They made it clear that they wanted no parts of Philly with Embiid and Nerlens already on the roster, I also heard they weren't fans of "the process" and thought New York was a better run organization :lol: Anyway, they wanted to be drafted by New York. Plus Porzingis now has his own injury problems.
2016: Ben Simmons... no explanation needed.
2017: We'll see. But Fultz could be another top level talent.

When its all said and done. The Sixers missed on Giannis and didn't draft Porzinigis . In 4 years of "the process" The Sixers drafted 2 out the 4 available franchise changers and one of those 4(Porzingis) tried like hell to discourage us from drafting him.

Plus the Sixers have another lottery pick this year (Lakers), and 5 other picks, including our own 1st round pick. NOW, they can draft good/solid players to surround our stars.
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Not to mention 'The Process' has put together a team that even NOW is good enough to potentially attract the King to bring his talents to Philly.
Think on it, 'The Process' has taken a team from 10 wins TWO SEASONS ago to a 3rd/4th seeded 50 win team who is good enough to be on LeBron's short list, and will be competitive for years WITHOUT LeBron coming with another Lottery Pick potentially in the pipeline... :dance:
 

ron_mexico

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Not to mention 'The Process' has put together a team that even NOW is good enough to potentially attract the King to bring his talents to Philly.
Think on it, 'The Process' has taken a team from 10 wins TWO SEASONS ago to a 3rd/4th seeded 50 win team who is good enough to be on LeBron's short list, and will be competitive for years WITHOUT LeBron coming with another Lottery Pick potentially in the pipeline... :dance:

The Irony is...Cleveland themselves had about 3 #1 draft picks and another top 5 pick before Lebron returned ... Only hitting on Kyrie.

Cleveland had a even better opportunity than us to build a young up and coming contender with or without Lebron.
 
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M.H.C.

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Trail Blazers Bring that ass here boy!

Couldn't handle business the other night? I need that same losing energy tonight.:hmm:

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Sike, Dame i'm playing bruh. Don't kill us.:scared:
 

ron_mexico

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Ehhhh.... Ben is about to figure out that Embiid can get away with shitting on everybody, but Ben probably will have a whole different backlash..



Still cracks me up. :lol:
 
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Rollie_Fingaz

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Good win for OKC. Surprised the Spurs are losing though.

....aaaand just like that they're back in the game.
 
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