I know.
The public needs to support these projects more.
And these new projects need to ensure they hire black folk at all levels of support.
"One day I hope us black people can be wise and mature enough to discuss and understand the implications of not recasting Tchalla"
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I know.
The public needs to support these projects more.
And these new projects need to ensure they hire black folk at all levels of support.
His content is on their platforms because he creates, distributes, and sells it to them. They have no control other than to decide not to buy from him, in which case he can shop it elsewhere.
I believe he also has ownership in Oprah's network so he develops exclusive content for his own network. I don't know how much more specifics you need on how to beat Hollywood at their own game. Are you just looking for a way to be right, or are you willing to engage in intellectual conversation?
You've asked questions and I've answered, if we don't agree that's what debate is comprised of.
You wrote the words you wrote, so if that's not your mindset I don't know why you wrote it. But regardless of if it is or isn't, my argument is against self defeatist mindsets in general.
Folks have been successful and created controlling situations in entertainment so it can be done, but surely can't if all a person sees is a ceiling on how far one can go.
question, if he is control why does he has to sell it to them? why cant he put his content, that he controls, out on his own? if he is really control shouldnt he be able to put his content out without selling to them? again my mindset hasnt been shared; you dont know how i feel; im asking you how it can be done; i didnt say it could or couldnt be done; and your right people have been successful for years creating content; that isnt the issue...
Ima tell you why you're right.
Im making a film.
Been working on this motherfucker for 4 years.
Its Sci fi Fantasy with a primarily Black cast.
We on some A New Hope type shit.
This thing IS NOT a low budget production.
When its done, I can sell distribution rights to any distributor world wide.
In the age of Tubi, it WILL SELL.
So yeah, a person like Tyler Perry can afford to invest 2m in a movie and make a profit without being beholden to any one company.
But he doesn't want to.
I feel ya. I guess the question is why doesn’t he want to? I would assume the answer is because he can profit more using their platforms. Which is ultimately the real issue…
Direct to consumer.. there’s this thing called super phone it was created by Ryan Leslie, where you can push products, services, etc directly to your fanbase.. you have your number available for your consumers and basically through text messaging you get notified about whatever project is coming up.. it gives the biz ness, company, etc info about each consumer purchases of your product, service, etc.. it’s how he generates millions of dollars a yr just by releasing music, doing performances, selling merch to his following… so as long as you have consumers and you have a product/service you can directly push it to them with zero middleman needed
No one in the #RecastTchalla movement said he had to be recast for BP2. The issue was the character didn't HAVE to die with the actor portraying him. Narratively, there were ways to write around not seeing T'Challa in mainstream MCU without killing him off.
Stfu and recast tchalla already.
The son isn't a recast. We aren't our dads. Is Jarrett Payton legendary like his father,Walter Payton? They easily could have just had T'Challa be in space in BP2 overseeing construction of the Wakandan Interglactic Defense System. Say the snap made him paranoid as fuck and he felt he needed a "hands on approach " to the galaxy defense.
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Could you give him a smack on our behalf?I know this dude personally.
He's on that bullshit.
Wouldve actually been smarter to say bp2 was during the blip and while their main leader was gone a new threat arrived… this would’ve been the kingdom fighting while Panther was gone for 5 yrs.. than part 3 somehow have a recast of him
I like it and a lot of people can do that. But as it relates to movies and tv shows and programs and products like that; that platform won’t provide or produce no where near the amount of exposure or money that the major networks and studios and platforms that are mainstream. And that’s what this thread is about
The problem with setting BP during the blip is this....when the heroes returned after Hulk's snap, during the scene in Endgame where Cap was gonna fight Thanos and forces by himself, the 1st 3 people he saw coming out of a portal were T'Challa, Shuri and Okoye.
There goes that defeat again. LOL Three people gave you examples of how to get around the system and maintain control. One gave you traditional distribution one gave you international distribution one gave you straight to consumer but you so caught up on the white man having control you can't see you are free. Them shackles are imaginary. Yes the studios have a lot of power but the power is only based on the people. Once the people move their attention somewhere else the power is gone. These outlets come in go because of that.
If you get people to watch your shit you will have power.
OK, please explain why we need to kill and mourn a fictional character because the actor died ? Thanks.
Exactly. Using this rationale,when Denzel goes we can never see 'Fences ' onscreen again. He and James Earl Jones both got awards and accolades playing the iconic role of Troy Maxon.
Bro stop taking things out of context; you niggas love to say shit that not relevant or create and put views onto people that they are not saying or displaying; i havent shared my mindset on anything as it relates to defeat or not; im only pointing out how the distribution of content is setup and how it gives them power over creators; again his example was solid and good for that type of media; the media we are discussing is movies; and how a certain studio hasnt recasted a character; so when you talking about movies and those types of media then its not the same as music and or other forms of media
You ain’t got people? Yes, the studios exert absolute control over the film making process. As they should, considering it is the propaganda arm of white messaging. Capitalism is an account theory on how many you have. Make your film and do it the way you want to. The painful truth is most black folks really don’t want to see black folks and they only want to see them in a specific context.
There is no black films because there is no propaganda arm of black messaging because there is no war. Black folks minds are the human body during a viral outbreak. Their immunity never stood a damn chance. That’s why the culture always die from a common cold.
Just like the Haitians waited for the mosquitoes to come and get rid of their oppressors, white folks wait for tv shows and movies to kill off the negro and his mind.
Short answer: its outside of his skills set.
"Now that detective is the right question"
All those people that fought during that thanos fight didn’t disappear, they were just summoned to fight, that’s why they came through the portal, remember Panther was in wakanda when thanos snapped his fingers.. so when he reappeared he was in wakanda again, than they got summons to fight.. that’s an easy fix.. remember nobody ever seen shuri evaporate after the finger snap
I had a convo with a couple of sfx artists. They complained about how they were never able to just make what they wanted to make for a movie.
So i said why dont y'all just make your own?
Them mafuggas was like dont nobody know how to do that!
Everyone has a cellphone, it’s easier to send an ad to your phone as far as promotion than if you put it on tv.. everyone dosent watch tv but everyone uses a phone, also once you get a text you can easily forward the text to the next person which is word of mouth promotion.. the fact that superphone isn’t one of the biggest thing out is still baffling.. but I understand why dosent have enough celebs promoting it.. but as far as this convo creating something can be made by individuals with money and promoting it well I just gave you the example with the superphone.. all those things can technically all be utilized with black control
Knowing how to get something done is key!! also I think with Tyler he probably doesnt want to because it takes more money time and effort; why create that when the system is already in place; one just has to abide by the system laws! Again, I like Tyler story of how he came up; his creations or content is terrible to me; outside of a couple of characters, i never like how he portrays black men! i dont like his story lines either; but hey that shit sells or at least the tell us it does; but to your point, im not sure they would do it even if they knew how...I had a convo with a couple of sfx artists. They complained about how they were never able to just make what they wanted to make for a movie.
So i said why dont y'all just make your own?
Them mafuggas was like dont nobody know how to do that!
i like it alot!! and what you are saying makes so much sense!! i dont think there is a shortage of what we create; i just think how its distributed to us and others is an issue; also what is distribute to us and others is an issue as well; but the creations of our art has always been there and will always be...