Oxford High School shooting: 9 SH0T, 4 DEAD, ALL BELIEVED TO BE STUDENTS, UPDATE- Shooter planning insanity defense

Fugitive parents of Michigan shooter Ethan Crumbley are ARRESTED less than a mile from Canadian border after leading authorities on massive manhunt


  • James and Jennifer Crumbley, the parents of Michigan school shooter, were arrested early Saturday in Detroit
  • Couple led authorities on a massive manhunt with a $10,000 reward offered by the US Marshals
  • Tipster led police to their abandoned car on the east side of Detroit, where they were found in a building
  • Oakland County prosecutor Karen McDonald filed involuntary manslaughter charges against them Friday
  • They each face a maximum of up to 15 years in prison if convicted and are being sought by law enforcement
  • In Michigan, involuntary manslaughter charge refers to contributing to a situation where death is likely
  • James Crumbley purchased the handgun police say his son, Ethan Crumbley, 15, used to kill four on Tuesday
  • Social media posts indicate the 9mm Sig Sauer was a Christmas gift from the parents to the teen
  • Days before shooting, Jennifer warned son 'learn not to get caught' after he researched gun ammo at school
  • She also posted a photo of the gun to social media: 'Mom & son day testing out his new Xmas present'
  • Ethan was charged as an adult with two dozen crimes, including murder, attempted murder and terrorism
  • Shooting at Oxford High School near Detroit killed four students and wounded seven others
By Keith Griffith and Snejana Farberov For Dailymail.com
Published: 02:03 EST, 4 December 2021 | Updated: 04:14 EST, 4 December 2021
 
During that same time, the police were going hard here for them.

They pulled over a white woman that had kidnapped four black kids.

I stay 13 minutes from Oxford High School & was actually on M-24 when it happened.

I've never seen that many police on the road in my life.


DETROIT (FOX 2) - Detroit police officers saved four young children who had been kidnapped earlier this week, the department said in a Facebook post on Thursday.


The discovery came during a traffic stop from a car going through a red light by a pair of officers from the Eighth Precinct. The driver told them she was in a hurry to get the children ages 6 to 10, to school.




When asked what school they attend, the driver "could not give a good answer," the post, on the Eighth Precinct Community page said.

"They escorted her from the car and questioned the child, simply to the eldest child, age 10, 'Do you know this woman?' The 10-year-old shook his head, no," the post said.


Officers Flannel and Parrish arrested the driver, while DPD said it was determined she had kidnapped the children on their way to school, forcing them into her vehicle.


"These 2 officers exercised excellent police investigate skills, in doing so they were able to take a kidnapper off the streets, and safeguard the 4 children from any hurt, harm and danger," the post said.
 
Sue the damn school board, county or state whichever jurisdiction it falls under. They should have called the police and not allowed this lil murderous cac back in the school after all the evidence they discovered.

How you gonna tell the parents he needs to be in a therapy program within 48 hours then let the fucker back in the school.

As I told one member here, schools can’t do shit until a student does something. They can’t act on weird behavior.

One school admin resigned because she caught a student looking up guns and ammunition in class and the admin didn’t do anything about it. She wasn’t comfortable in the classroom with him.

I can admit that CAC mofo had all the signs of a school shooter. He was in my class and would be talking some off the wall shit about loneliness. I swear to you, I told him to get some pussy. He told me girls wasn’t interested in him, and I said “that’s not true, you’re only interested in girls that aren’t interested in you. Go you get you a fat girl.”

I kid you not, a few weeks later this dude was at school a totally different person. He cleaned himself up and was more sociable. I said “Mike, what’s going on? I notice you’re different acting.”

He said “Professor 4D, I finally got me some pussy. I didn’t think I was ever going to get laid. Now I get laid all the time. I even had a threesome.”

He even started calling himself Magic Mike :lol:

Pussy saves lives. Directly and indirectly.

Mike gave me a shoutout at graduation. And thanked me for being cool with him.

Man, I’m good at this teaching shit. I got stories for DAYS. Hell, I have another one about this crazy mofo Magic Mike watching another student damn near dying while smoking a cigarette outside.
 
This tweet/instagram post answered my question.
Most school shootings, where a teen steal parents gun.
Results in one maybe two deaths and the rest of the students injured as they run.

His shootings are mostly headshots.
I wondered if he pulled his gun out in a class where students couldn't escape or run.
Like that incel in Canada who killed those 14 women in a college classroom.

The kid trained with his parents with this gun to shoot and aim.
Even those running with injuries were head shots.

 
Parents of the fuckin year...

First you buy a disturbed 15 yr old a 9mm pistol.

Then you're asked to come to the school about his potentially threatening note about gun violence...that you're aware he has access to...but you don't mention it in the meeting...and you resist taking him home..

Then text him ...and jokingly suggest that he not get caught.

And now you abandon him, like he's with relatives, as he's facing life in prison..

deuces, kid


:smh: :smh: :smh: :smh:
Not sure why people keep blaming the parents? Blame the people who created these laws that allow what that the parents did perfectly legal.

Let’s be real. The parents are not going to get convicted because by law they did nothing wrong. If there is no proof of them aiding their son which does not seem to be the case, this is grandstanding.

They don’t want us to focus on why these shooting really happen
 
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As I read through most of the posts in this thread and think back to when I was in school...even then I thought bullying anyone was considered reckless behavior, knowing full well that that person you are embarrassing might "Snap". The Gun is the great equalizer and if you make fun of a person you better not turn your back on that person, well I thought this was generally understood by all Generations and all Races but it seems we still do it, at work at school even in college.
 
I wondered if he pulled his gun out in a class where students couldn't escape or run.
Like that incel in Canada who killed those 14 women in a college classroom.








The École Polytechnique massacre (French: tuerie de l'École polytechnique), also known as the Montreal massacre, was an antifeminist mass shooting in Montreal at an engineering school affiliated with the Université de Montréal. Fourteen women were murdered and 10 women and four men were injured.
On December 6, 1989, Marc Lépine entered a mechanical engineering class at the École Polytechnique and ordered the women and men to opposite sides of the classroom. He separated nine women, instructing the men to leave. He stated that he was "fighting feminism" and opened fire. He shot at all nine women in the room, killing six. The shooter then moved through corridors, the cafeteria, and another classroom, targeting women for just under 20 minutes. He killed a further eight before turning the gun on himself.
In a search for a rationale since the attack, there have been debates over various interpretations of the events, their significance, and the shooter's motives. Many characterize the massacre as an anti-feminist attack representative of wider societal violence against women. The anniversary of the massacre has been commemorated as the National Day of Remembrance and Action on Violence Against Women. Other interpretations emphasize the shooter's abuse as a child or suggest that the massacre was simply the isolated act of a madman, unrelated to larger social issues.[1][2] Still other commentators have blamed violence in the media[3] and increasing poverty, isolation, and alienation in society,[4] particularly in immigrant communities.[5]
The incident led to more stringent gun control laws in Canada. It also introduced changes in the tactical response of police to shootings, changes which were later credited with minimizing casualties during the Dawson College shooting.







 
As I told one member here, schools can’t do shit until a student does something. They can’t act on weird behavior.

One school admin resigned because she caught a student looking up guns and ammunition in class and the admin didn’t do anything about it. She wasn’t comfortable in the classroom with him.

I can admit that CAC mofo had all the signs of a school shooter. He was in my class and would be talking some off the wall shit about loneliness. I swear to you, I told him to get some pussy. He told me girls wasn’t interested in him, and I said “that’s not true, you’re only interested in girls that aren’t interested in you. Go you get you a fat girl.”

I kid you not, a few weeks later this dude was at school a totally different person. He cleaned himself up and was more sociable. I said “Mike, what’s going on? I notice you’re different acting.”

He said “Professor 4D, I finally got me some pussy. I didn’t think I was ever going to get laid. Now I get laid all the time. I even had a threesome.”

He even started calling himself Magic Mike :lol:

Pussy saves lives. Directly and indirectly.

Mike gave me a shoutout at graduation. And thanked me for being cool with him.

Man, I’m good at this teaching shit. I got stories for DAYS. Hell, I have another one about this crazy mofo Magic Mike watching another student damn near dying while smoking a cigarette outside.
This is all smoke and mirrors. They trying to use the parents in order to hide the true issues.

We all know what is about to happen. They will have a trial, the Cracka parents will be acquitted. People will be up in arms and in their feelings.

But not one single person will look at the true culprits. The politicians who drafted these dumb ass laws.
 
Not sure why people keep blaming the parents? Blame the people who created these laws that allow that the parents did perfectly legal.

Let’s be real. The parents are not going to get convicted because by law they did nothing wrong. If there is no proof of them aiding their son which does not seem to be the case, this is grandstanding.

They don’t want us to focus on why these shooting really happen
Are you paying attention to the facts? If there's proof? Momma put on ig that she bought it for him 4 Christmas. They definitely going down
 
This is all smoke and mirrors. They trying to use the parents in order to hide the true issues.

We all know what is about to happen. They will have a trial, the Cracka parents will be acquitted. People will be up in arms and in their feelings.

But not one single person will look at the true culprits. The politicians who drafted these dumb ass laws.

The parents are a result of the poor political issues on firearms.

But these poor white trash CACs is about to get that work in court. Ain’t nobody going to be fronting their defense bill and they will face a heavy L. All three of them.

And, nobody is fucking with these guns laws ever. Makers and politicians will never be held accountable for anything. But poor white trash will be sacrificed because middle class CACs got blasted.

Nobody saving these CACs.
 
WTF! I can't help feeling Black people are stolen like that consistently to this day. There are too many missing Black people to be coincidence. Be safe out here folks.

They need to GRILL this monster. I mean bring in the feds. Hopefully she was transporting them across state lines. And put out all the details so the public is aware of what's going on.
 
Are you paying attention to the facts? If there's proof? Momma put on ig that she bought it for him 4 Christmas. They definitely going down

Buying a gun for your child is not against the law. It amazes me how politicians skate on situations they caused.

Running around with white wing trump conspiracies = patriotic

Wearing mask = my rights being violated

Stand your ground laws = self defense

Black people would be labeled terrorist if we ran around with the same trump conspiracy. If they Trayvon case was a black man killing a Cracka kid, that law would have been changed immediately.

Crackas allow these gun laws and continue to make them constitutional and get angry when we mention gun control.
 
They almost made it to Canada.......now they will all the way make it to jail......:lol:
Their lawyer sticking to that they weren't on the run story while they were a stones throw away from the bridge


Home done got even more crazier, just think if there wasn't a check point the parent wouldn't have never known her kids where missing till hours later :smh: use to be safe to walk to school in groups.
 
Buying a gun for your child is not against the law. It amazes me how politicians skate on situations they caused.

Running around with white wing trump conspiracies = patriotic

Wearing mask = my rights being violated

Stand your ground laws = self defense

Black people would be labeled terrorist if we ran around with the same trump conspiracy. If they Trayvon case was a black man killing a Cracka kid, that law would have been changed immediately.

Crackas allow these gun laws and continue to make them constitutional and get angry when we mention gun control.
How ain't buying a gun for someone who can't legally have 1 not illegal?
 
So I just wanna let all the folks in the Rittenhouse threads asking why did we care about that verdict when it was crackas and not us....

THIS IS WHY.

And I guarantee parents all over the country are buying their teenage sons guns and gassing them up to "go out and defend themselves" :smh:

These parents bought that kid a gun, laughed and joked about it-knowing he was unstable- They are like the stupid cousin that jumps off the barn roof and breaks both his legs.

what I mean by that is; There is a reality that exists in their heads about how things would play out... and that has nothing to do with the real world.. just like the January 6 debacle, in cac's heads- they thought, against all reality that they were actually gonna take over and put Trump back in power. :smh:

In that same way, in the parent's heads, their son was gonna use his gun to uphold american justice and values- and if he shot someone, he would never get in trouble for that... he would be a HERO. but the son fucked up the plan by shooting white people

Trump voting parents are raising baby Proud Boys :smh:


This is exactly right, and this shit is gonna continue

this is white folks business, white folks problem.

It's only their problem until it's ours. Thing is, when one of these cacs goes somewhere, like to one of our protests, or schools or churches; you know -to go defend himself or others or business or squirrels or whatever and shoots up a bunch of US, then gets on the stand and pulls a rittenhouse, or says he was bullied, you gonna be cool with them letting him go? Because that is what the Rittenhouse case was setting up and why so many people are upset about the verdict.
 
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So I just wanna let all the folks in the Rittenhouse threads asking why did we care about that verdict when it was crackas and not us....

THIS IS WHY.

And I guarantee parents all over the country are buying their teenage sons guns and gassing them up to "go out and defend themselves" :smh:

These parents bought that kid a gun, laughed and joked about it-knowing he was unstable- They are like the stupid cousin that jumps off the barn roof and breaks both his legs.

what I mean by that is; There is a reality that exists in their heads about how things would play out... and that has nothing to do with the real world.. just like the January 6 debacle, in cac's heads- they thought, against all reality that they were actually gonna take over and put Trump back in power. :smh:

In that same way, in their heads, their son was gonna use his gun to uphold american justice and values- and if he shot someone, he would never get in trouble for that... but the son fucked up the plan by shooting white people




This is exactly right, and this shit is gonna continue



It's only their problem until it's ours. Thing is, when one of these cacs goes somewhere, like to one of our protests, or schools or churches; you know -to go defend himself or others or business or squirrels or whatever and shoots up a bunch of US, then gets on the stand and pulls a rittenhouse, or says he was bullied, you gonna be cool with them letting him go? Because that is what the Rittenhouse case was setting up and why so many people are upset about the verdict.
So what's YOUR plan? How do you stop a deranged person from killing people if their own existence and/or freedom means nothing to them? If you have no concern about dying in the process, or spending your remaining years imprisoned, then you can kill anyone you wish from the lowest to the highest levels and there is no way to prevent you from doing so. Murderers don't typical post their heinous plans in the newspaper. People will be killed tomorrow and there is no way humanly possible for you to prevent even one, cause you don't know tomorrow's perp, victim or plan. What you're saying just doesn't resonate with me. People have been killing people for all of recorded history and nobody has put an end to it, but you alone hold the plan? You've said everything but by what means you'd personally be able to change a solitary thing. I'm not gonna spend my life worrying about things I can neither change or prevent. Not healthy.
 
So I just wanna let all the folks in the Rittenhouse threads asking why did we care about that verdict when it was crackas and not us....

THIS IS WHY.

And I guarantee parents all over the country are buying their teenage sons guns and gassing them up to "go out and defend themselves" :smh:

These parents bought that kid a gun, laughed and joked about it-knowing he was unstable- They are like the stupid cousin that jumps off the barn roof and breaks both his legs.

what I mean by that is; There is a reality that exists in their heads about how things would play out... and that has nothing to do with the real world.. just like the January 6 debacle, in cac's heads- they thought, against all reality that they were actually gonna take over and put Trump back in power. :smh:

In that same way, in the parent's heads, their son was gonna use his gun to uphold american justice and values- and if he shot someone, he would never get in trouble for that... he would be a HERO. but the son fucked up the plan by shooting white people




This is exactly right, and this shit is gonna continue



It's only their problem until it's ours. Thing is, when one of these cacs goes somewhere, like to one of our protests, or schools or churches; you know -to go defend himself or others or business or squirrels or whatever and shoots up a bunch of US, then gets on the stand and pulls a rittenhouse, or says he was bullied, you gonna be cool with them letting him go? Because that is what the Rittenhouse case was setting up and why so many people are upset about the verdict.
As the white populations continue to shift downward pretty quickly you are going to see more and more white people do shit like this out of frustration. I said this along time ago white people are going to fuck up shit going out the door.
 
Rumors of impending danger, terror-filled moments in Oxford school shooting


I was listening to the news last night and it came up that some students knew something was going to go down soon at that school.

It came out that there is a culture in that area around the school where everybody knew a mass shooting was going to happen one day and soon.

Everybody in the area were always prepared mentally for if/when that day would happened.

Getting a trial in that area for a guilty verdict is going to be difficult because of the gun culture there. Finding jurist will be difficult.

I heard another report of teens within the area and around the country going on social media uploading pictures of themselves with firearms as jokes in response of the shootings.

It will be interesting to see how things play out in court.
 
So what's YOUR plan? How do you stop a deranged person from killing people if their own existence and/or freedom means nothing to them? If you have no concern about dying in the process, or spending your remaining years imprisoned, then you can kill anyone you wish from the lowest to the highest levels and there is no way to prevent you from doing so. Murderers don't typical post their heinous plans in the newspaper. People will be killed tomorrow and there is no way humanly possible for you to prevent even one, cause you don't know tomorrow's perp, victim or plan. What you're saying just doesn't resonate with me. People have been killing people for all of recorded history and nobody has put an end to it, but you alone hold the plan? You've said everything but by what means you'd personally be able to change a solitary thing. I'm not gonna spend my life worrying about things I can neither change or prevent. Not healthy.


This seems to be an extremely nihilistic view. Firstly, I'm not really required to offer a solution or have a plan before I can express my opinion or outrage. The first step to ANY change is someone getting angry. In the words of The good Spider Anansi, "Angry gets shit done." Maybe my words spark someone else to action, maybe I join with like minded individuals- I don't have a plan, but I also don't think anyone needs a plan before they are allowed to speak.

Of course we cannot prevent crazy people from doing crazy shit, and we will ALWAYS have to live with that- but what we also cannot do, in my opinion; is normalize the kind of thinking that sparked this incident. I think the political climate of the past few years in the U.S is where this is coming from, and racists/right wing radicals have been emboldened. and there ARE things that can be done about that.

Many times, when I hear one of us say "it's not our problem, it's theirs", I see the situation differently- these white folks are ALWAYS moving the chess pieces around the board, trying to set up checkmate for us, and I am doing what I can at a community level- but even if I weren't, even if I was only doing something as simple as complaining about it online and voting- that doesn't make my words any less valid.

I don't think that just because we might feel that we may not have any control over or can't change or prevent events means they should sit idly by and watch the world pass us by. It sounds like you just want to get lost in the crowd, keep your head down and live and enjoy your life. That is a valid viewpoint.

There are others though who would participate in the world to a greater degree, engage in it to the extent they can and strive for change, no matter how minute.
 
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They're being arraigned right now live on TV.
The mom is crying. Reality kicking in.
They plead not guilty.

LOL, kind of a dick move to quote myself, but....

There is a reality that exists in their heads about how things would play out... and that has nothing to do with the real world..

in the parent's heads, their son was gonna use his gun to uphold american justice and values- and if he shot someone, he (or they) would never get in trouble for that..he would be a HERO
This is absolutely NOT playing out like they imagined it would.
:itsawrap:
 
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How ain't buying a gun for someone who can't legally have 1 not illegal?
There is no law against it. “As long as a parent is present” basically allows for it.

People who are for more gun control laws have been speaking on this for years. But they get so much push back.

What you said is so logical but yet they won’t consider changing any laws
 
This seems to be an extremely nihilistic view. Firstly, I'm not really required to offer a solution or have a plan before I can express my opinion or outrage. The first step to ANY change is someone getting angry. In the words of The good Spider Anansi, "Angry gets shit done." Maybe my words spark someone else to action, maybe I join with like minded individuals- I don't have a plan, but I also don't think anyone needs a plan before they are allowed to speak.

Of course we cannot prevent crazy people from doing crazy shit, and we will ALWAYS have to live with that- but what we also cannot do, in my opinion; is normalize the kind of thinking that sparked this incident. I think the political climate of the past few years in the U.S is where this is coming from, and racists/right wing radicals have been emboldened. and there ARE things that can be done about that.

Many times, when I hear one of us say "it's not our problem, it's theirs", I see the situation differently- these white folks are ALWAYS moving the chess pieces around the board, trying to set up checkmate for us, and I am doing what I can at a community level- but even if I weren't, even if I was only doing something as simple as complaining about it online and voting- that doesn't make my words any less valid.

I don't think that just because we might feel that we may not have any control over or can't change or prevent events means they should sit idly by and watch the world pass us by. It sounds like you just want to get lost in the crowd, keep you head down and live your life. That is a valid viewpoint.

There are others though who would participate in the world to a greater degree, engage in it to the extent they can and strive for change, no matter how minute.
Well, while you're being angry I'll be at the beach or catching Tarpon in the Caribbean. I'm not into fruitless endeavors. But still noble of you. Good luck. Great day!
 
Not sure why people keep blaming the parents? Blame the people who created these laws that allow what that the parents did perfectly legal.

Let’s be real. The parents are not going to get convicted because by law they did nothing wrong. If there is no proof of them aiding their son which does not seem to be the case, this is grandstanding.

They don’t want us to focus on why these shooting really happen

Not sure if you're a lawyer or in LE...so, your opinion on their innocence or guilt is irrelevant. What is important is that they were charged and now have to defend themselves in court.

If you know anything about how juries work, you wouldn't wanna chance your freedom to 12 people who don't GAF about you.... ESPECIALLY after a tragedy.

But even if they are 100% in the clear...who abandons their child, while he's facing life in prison?
 
As I told one member here, schools can’t do shit until a student does something. They can’t act on weird behavior.

One school admin resigned because she caught a student looking up guns and ammunition in class and the admin didn’t do anything about it. She wasn’t comfortable in the classroom with him.

I can admit that CAC mofo had all the signs of a school shooter. He was in my class and would be talking some off the wall shit about loneliness. I swear to you, I told him to get some pussy. He told me girls wasn’t interested in him, and I said “that’s not true, you’re only interested in girls that aren’t interested in you. Go you get you a fat girl.”

I kid you not, a few weeks later this dude was at school a totally different person. He cleaned himself up and was more sociable. I said “Mike, what’s going on? I notice you’re different acting.”

He said “Professor 4D, I finally got me some pussy. I didn’t think I was ever going to get laid. Now I get laid all the time. I even had a threesome.”

He even started calling himself Magic Mike :lol:

Pussy saves lives. Directly and indirectly.

Mike gave me a shoutout at graduation. And thanked me for being cool with him.

Man, I’m good at this teaching shit. I got stories for DAYS. Hell, I have another one about this crazy mofo Magic Mike watching another student damn near dying while smoking a cigarette outside.


Damn that's wild. Good shit bruh!
 
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