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Basically have given up on this shit making any sense. The thing that gets to me isn't the trust they are showing in Kanaan (in my house? Hell no), it's the lack of communication between the crime partners: Ghost, Tommy and TASHA
Those three know everything there is no know about each other EXCEPT what they do when they go off by themselves. With this much at stake in the game?? They should know every detail of what the other is doing at all times
That's the only reason Tariq and Kanaan was able to get away with that shit for a whole season. None of the crime bosses communicate. Tommy using the same lawyer Ghost uses behind Ghost back?? Hell to the naw. Tasha fucking the other lawyer?
Tommy going to CHICAGO and almost getting killed and nobody knows about that shit? Ghost going vigilante?? The thing about the first season is that Ghost and Tommy were almost always on the same page. Tasha knew most details too
Extracurricular fucking ain't enough to stop us from keeping tabs on each other either. Fuck who you want but let people know where the fuck you are at all times. And you should always have backup. Not one of them has security with them
 
I think, and I'm hoping, that after they take care of Dre, Ghost and Tommy will kill K. They have to. It's the only ending that makes sense.
 
TimRock said:
So why didn't Tasha tell Ghost about the exchange between her and Kanaan? Or why didn't Tommy?
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Because she's a woman!! In her mind Ghost should already be protecting her or some shit. On the other hand you are 100% right about her not telling Tommy and he was right there.
But Tommy is a dumb fuck for just writing the shit off. Like Kanaan just being playful again. Tasha is emotional but she is not one to get emotional over nothing.
SOMETHING had to go down in that hallway with them for her to react like that. But that's part of what I originally posted. Those three do not communicate like they did in season 1.

Before Tasha started fucking the help
 
Once the show starts killing off kids; it's a sign that they ran out of ideas and directions to go. Granted; they knew the world wanted Tariq to get it, so they jumped and killed the sister instead to draw the audience in more and make the Tariq hate grow even stronger....but now what?

The series is going to end with Tasha killing Ghost or some other off the wall shit. Better yet it's going to be Tariq killing Ghost.
 
KA$H said:
Once the show starts killing off kids; it's a sign that they ran out of ideas and directions to go. Granted; they knew the world wanted Tariq to get it, so they jumped and killed the sister instead to draw the audience in more and make the Tariq hate grow even stronger....but now what?

The series is going to end with Tasha killing Ghost or some other off the wall shit. Better yet it's going to be Tariq killing Ghost.
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I think 50 is the problem
 
KA$H said:
Once the show starts killing off kids; it's a sign that they ran out of ideas and directions to go. Granted; they knew the world wanted Tariq to get it, so they jumped and killed the sister instead to draw the audience in more and make the Tariq hate grow even stronger....but now what?

The series is going to end with Tasha killing Ghost or some other off the wall shit. Better yet it's going to be Tariq killing Ghost.
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I don't think you can have the show without Ghost. The show is based around him so I think he is untouchable on here.
 
Rudey said:
They did?
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mrdiego2020 said:
really?!
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  • Fans are divided on the issue of what happens in the final scene of the series, though some believe that Tony Soprano is murdered and that the man in the Member's Only jacket is his killer. Possible support to this theory is:
    • The previous episode (The Blue Comet) contains a flashback to a scene from Soprano Home Movies in which Robert Baccalieri, Jr and Tony Soprano discuss what it's like being killed, saying "in our line of work, it's always out there. You probably don't even hear it when it happens". While the flashback may or may not be referring to this scene, the cut to black and complete silence would be exactly what Bobby described.
    • David Chase sets up a pattern of point of view shots where we see a shot of Tony, then his point of view of someone walking into the restaurant when the bell on the door rings, and then the reaction shot. Following this pattern, we hear the bell ring as Meadow opens the door, we get the shot of Tony, then right when we should see Meadow walking in from Tony's point of view, we get black nothingness.
    • The screen abruptly cuts to black and all sound mutes as opposed to the fade in most other episodes that keeps the soundtrack running (which goes hand in hand with the above-mentioned discussion).
    • The person staring at Tony Soprano and walking to the bathroom is significant enough to be credited, with a special mention to his "Members Only" jacket. "Members Only" is the episode in which Tony got shot, and is a reference to being in the mob, as well as to Eugene in "Members Only" who kills himself when Tony won't let him move his family to Florida. The "Members Only" man simply can be seen to represent everyone Tony has wronged throughout his life. He is also the only patron we see walking into the diner before we get Tony's point of view of him walking into the diner followed by AJ.
    • A hitman walking into a bathroom to retrieve his weapon is reminiscent of a famous scene from The Godfather, in which Michael Corleone does so before murdering a rival and a police captain.
    • It's the only time in the series Tony is seen peeling an orange, an obvious reference to The Godfathermovies where oranges are closely associated with an approaching death or being shot.
    • The scene has been edited in a way that builds up tension, which naturally leads the audience on to believe something momentous is going to happen (which may or may not be the case).
    • Many of the patrons in the diner represent an event from previous episodes that involved killing someone.
    • Tony Soprano often spoke, in Soprano Home Movies, For All Debts Public and Private, and The Happy Wanderer, of the fact that there are only two ways out for a boss. Dead or in Jail. We saw Johnny Sack, another boss, go the route going to jail. We also saw Little Carmine Lupertazzi step away from the title of Boss to enjoy and live his life. So it would make sense that we see Tony take the other path, death.
However, there are also several things hinting that nothing happened to Tony Soprano:

  • We never actually see anything happen other than suggestive editing - we don't even see a gun. Or to put it more simply, we do not see Tony Soprano die, therefore when the show ended, Tony Soprano was still alive.
  • The lyrics of the infamous Journey song (Don't Stop Believin') indicate that life goes on despite all the trouble. The jacket of the Members Only guy doesn't have a logo on it. Maybe that means that he - like the jacket - is an imitation, not the real thing.
  • There was no reason for him to be killed - the hit on Phil Leotardo had been sanctioned by the Lupertazzi crime family.
    • Even so this is debatable because there where many variables in the way the hit went down. Phil was killed in front of his family and other witnesses and his head got crushed by his own SUV. This method of killing may have angered the Lupertazzi Family prompting a possible violent retaliation.
      • However, Phil's head getting crushed by his own SUV is not Tony Soprano's fault. The hit was sanctioned, and it was Patty who left the car running. Butch's sanction on Phil was witnessed by a neutral party, so Butch's reputation would've been ruined had he retaliated against Tony.
      • One theory suggests that Butchie, who planned the hit on Tony, wanted to seize power for himself. He knew that removing Tony would end the Jersery family effectively, but he still had to get rid of Phil. By giving up Phil without telling Tony where he could find him, he could take control of the New York family, then turn on Tony once Phil is removed thus taking control of Jersey as well. If Phil made it out alive, He may not have known Butchie had betrayed him as Tony did not know Phils location (in the eyes of Butchie, however Tony knew where Phil was from FBI Agent Harris).
The general consensus that most people can agree with is that the last scene shows the audience how Tony is feeling every day: In an everyday situation like eating dinner, everybody around him could be out to kill him. He is constantly living in paranoia and the fear that anybody who looks at him or brushes past him could be a killer. Whenever anybody enters the diner, Tony Soprano looks up to glances up to see if that person is a threat. The last season has had an emphasis on the downside of the mob life - Johnny Sack dying in prison with no money, leaving his widow penniless, people even in high ranks getting killed, Tony Soprano killing his own nephew in a despicable way. The final scene shows the sad life of those who survive - living in constant fear, facing death or prison. However, this does not hold up well under scrutiny because when looking at the final scene we only see shots of most of the patrons in the diner from a third person perspective. It is only when the bell rings on the door that we get Tony's point of view of someone entering the diner. When we see the other patrons in the diner, it is only through third person and Tony is actually looking down at his menu for most of these shots. This explains the ending in that right when we should get Tony's point of view of Meadow walking into the diner we see black nothingness and the music cuts out. Apparently Chase actually wanted the black nothingness to be it and not even have credits, but HBO forced him to include credits.
 
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This Ep wasnt bad ....

still no neked-ness....:hmm:

They making Dre seem too smart ....it`s hard to buy....

Proctor gonna snitch ...i jus c it ....smh....

Tommy as usual gonna do a tommy n fuck shit up ...

New Dick got Tasha blind ....

n pussy whipped Ghost ....argh...i just cant ...no comment....
 
TimRock said:
Not a bad episode. But it just feels like I'm watching a cartoon. But Proctor just became the most interesting character in the show. Everything else.......SMH.
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Best Scene of this Season was Dre and Ghost staring at each other across the boardroom...could definitely fill the tension..this whole Ghost- Angela storyline is tired and should be over with...
 
TENT said:
This new episode was dope as fuck.
Larenz Tate is a great actor. Haha. He had me laughing.
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The nigga so good he got me hating his bitch ass. Real talk, been a big fan of Lorenz for decades. I've always looked at him as a kid who was liable to have an epic spazz out scene (Menace, Why Do Fools Fall in Love, Dead Prez, Inkwell etc.) but his performance this season in my opinion has raised his profile. I don't see him as an angry little kid anymore, hell I don't even recognize who this ninja is. lolololol.
 
Dre became the face in order to get insurance ghost wouldn't kill him. But what that shit got to go with Tommy and Kanan?

Who is selling Tommy drugs? The mob? 50 crew? They never show him handling that business.

Tate is actually too good for this show.
it's unbelievable y'all still root for ghost. Tate has done nothing wrong. He handles Business so well he makes ghost look like an amateur.

Super Kanan with the 50cal , them dumb niggas deserved that shit.
 
Jay_from_dade said:
Then Tommy can sneak around in a bright blue muscle car with nobody noticing.
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Yeah, I always wondered about that. You can hear Tommy coming in the 'Stang from blocks away, but nobody notices when he's lurking.

I'll give them the benefit of the doubt on the airplane scene because airplanes are loud as fuck.

But it's the same shit when Ghost wanted to talk to Tommy away from Kanan, but clearly Kanan could still hear everything them niggas was saying so it kinda defeated the purpose, but I won't get too nitpicky.
 
So the sister wants to kill the brother? why?

also

What was the point of the old man getting out of Jail? The feds let him out. What's his purpose to Tommy and how can he help Tommy?

and 50 sending the goons who refuse to listen.

50 is gonna get murked probably by Tommy later on.
 
Kanan is the only character that's doing his thing this year lol.

Dre so much of a bitch but tats don't care about ghost or that daughter he wants them buckets.

Idc Tasha left
Pencil stache is a full bitch ass nigga and probably should get clapped up.

Ghost and Angie met so next episode we'll get their sex scene

Stupid shit
 
totto said:
So the sister wants to kill the brother? why?

also

What was the point of the old man getting out of Jail? The feds let him out. What's his purpose to Tommy and how can he help Tommy?

and 50 sending the goons who refuse to listen.

50 is gonna get murked probably by Tommy later on.
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The brother is weak. Wreckless. He lost a gun he dommicomm a murderer with for a whole month and didn't even care.

He's around cause he's the face she's the actual power.

Tom dad gonna get info to get ghost.
 

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