R. Kelly’s ‘Girlfriend’ Says Her Father Encouraged Her to Make Sexual Videos With Singer
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I guess we’ll see. The one hour interview is coming on tomorrow with Gayle, btw.
Charlie didn’t. You dudes be going to any lengths to be team Kelly.
LOL You're still only talking about the last year. Girls and women have been making these accusations for YEARS. The trial was in the 90's, bruh. Dude has a double digit number of settlements. Come on, man.
why do yall keep insisting all of those white folks escaped scrutiny though? They were all over the news, most of them, for years. There's hella movies and docs on the catholic church, Elvis dead, Weinstein is on the bubble, I don't know shit about Steven Tyler or Demi but I could name black celebs who have escaped the spotlight with similar moral transgressions. Just not similar LEGAL transgressions like this nigga Kells.
It's just such a wild hill to die on.
that's not what the new case is about though huh?
Not if they really fucking R. kelly. That mofo got the Herpes. They might be doing amateur homegrown shit. But not professional.
It's amazing, isn't it....?
As to say being found, "Not Guilty" or being acquitted by a jury means a person did not actually commit a crime.
When it's about crimes against Black girls and women, some dudes here are quick to say shit like: "R. Kelly was acquitted of past sexual crimes".
But when it's four White cops who shoot an unarmed Black man and are found, "Not Guilty" by that same jury, those dudes are outraged and shouting colorful slogans like: "No Justice. No Peace", and crying for federal courts involvement...
It's amazing, isn't it....?
As to say being found, "Not Guilty" or being acquitted by a jury means a person did not actually commit a crime.
When it's about crimes against Black girls and women, some dudes here are quick to say shit like: "R. Kelly was acquitted of past sexual crimes".
But when it's four White cops who shoot an unarmed Black man and are found, "Not Guilty" by that same jury, those dudes are outraged and shouting colorful slogans like: "No Justice. No Peace", and crying for federal courts involvement...
Now, this is super facts!!
I’ll never be okay with a black men having sex/raping little black girls because white men do it. My brain just doesn’t work that wAy. Black girls need to be protected at all cost. We ,actually,should be looking at all black children as our children and protect them as such.
People been calling you a cac on here for a min but I layed low..this lil commentary was very cacish of you ... Only a handful of people are defending r kelly, majority of us been said fuck r kelly... But for you to throw that innocent black men getting murdered by pigs and our reaction was very soulless and low class, I don't think any real bro would use that example everIt's amazing, isn't it....?
As to say being found, "Not Guilty" or being acquitted by a jury means a person did not actually commit a crime.
When it's about crimes against Black girls and women, some dudes here are quick to say shit like: "R. Kelly was acquitted of past sexual crimes".
But when it's four White cops who shoot an unarmed Black man and are found, "Not Guilty" by that same jury, those dudes are outraged and shouting colorful slogans like: "No Justice. No Peace", and crying for federal courts involvement...
And a seasoned interviewer. Go figure
This is why.
We work twice as hard to destroy our own, while ignoring and making excuses for others.
All you dudes with this what abit
So they don’t know about Woody Allen being ridiculed and what not. They don’t know that Weinstein is the global face of this bs. They don’t know he’s been muted and on trial. They don’t know that Epstein’s case is about to explode. Because they don’t really care. Funny thing is CAC at large don’t give a damn about R. Kelly. Check the average R. Kelly thread about Kells. 99% Black. Check one. About Weinstein ...100% white. Weinstein should be in jail but honestly I’m more worried about who’s victimizing black girls.
White dudes as a whole are the face of pedophilia. I don’t know about y’all but for all the circles I’ve been in it’s always been referred to as “white people shit”. The only way a person can say black men are the “face” is if they just started paying attention.
They believe that because before this negroes didn’t give a damn about white pedophilia. Their only reason for caring is to justify R. Kelly.
So they don’t know about Woody Allen being ridiculed and what not. They don’t know that Weinstein is the global face of this bs. They don’t know he’s been muted and on trial. They don’t know that Epstein’s case is about to explode. Because they don’t really care. Funny thing is CAC at large don’t give a damn about R. Kelly. Check the average R. Kelly thread about Kells. 99% Black. Check one. About Weinstein ...100% white. Weinstein should be in jail but honestly I’m more worried about who’s victimizing black girls.
White dudes as a whole are the face of pedophilia. I don’t know about y’all but for all the circles I’ve been in it’s always been referred to as “white people shit”. The only way a person can say black men are the “face” is if they just started paying attention.
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i don't believe it.
i can believe parents trying to come up "after the fact" but to plot some shit beforehand with your kid is some down right low down dirty shit.... naw i'm not buying it.
i can believe parents trying to come up "after the fact" but to plot some shit beforehand with your kid is some down right low down dirty shit.... naw i'm not buying it.
#1. Please re-read my post. It very clearly was directed at and addressed those "handful" of brothers you mentioned.
#2. If you are incapable of seeing the inequality in the way Black women are treated in the call for protection and justice within The Black Community, then I think you aren't paying attention.
#3. Prove me wrong. When Black men have been treated unfairly, unjustly or even killed by police, the Community almost goes into auto- pilot when calling for justice and the arrests of those cops. But with R. Kelly; in spite of physical evidence and his own actions (past and present) far too many folks (both men & women) not only advocate for this predator, but go so far as to blame and attack his victims (Black girls & women).
Hell, even The Boondocks animated series pointed out this lunacy in The Black Community in regards:
However, when Huey Freeman pointed it out, folks found it to be thought provoking and profound...
...but when I point it out, you question my racial identity.
Finally.
#4. If YOU need me to be White in order to understand and accept (although not agree with) my POV's, then so be it...
It's as I've said before, I guess only a White man could possibly advocate/encourage Black men to think critically and to love, value & protect Black women, right...?
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Yep.
100% cosign.
Protecting children (both boys & girls) needs to remain of paramount concern within The Black Community.
When predators are in our midst, we MUST band together to keep them away from children as well as calling them out...
#1. Please re-read my post. It very clearly was directed at and addressed those "handful" of brothers you mentioned.
#2. If you are incapable of seeing the inequality in the way Black women are treated in the call for protection and justice within The Black Community, then I think you aren't paying attention.
#3. Prove me wrong. When Black men have been treated unfairly, unjustly or even killed by police, the Community almost goes into auto- pilot when calling for justice and the arrests of those cops. But with R. Kelly; in spite of physical evidence and his own actions (past and present) far too many folks (both men & women) not only advocate for this predator, but go so far as to blame and attack his victims (Black girls & women).
Hell, even The Boondocks animated series pointed out this lunacy in The Black Community in regards:
However, when Huey Freeman pointed it out, folks found it to be thought provoking and profound...
...but when I point it out, you question my racial identity.
Finally.
#4. If YOU need me to be White in order to understand and accept (although not agree with) my POV's, then so be it...
It's as I've said before, I guess only a White man could possibly advocate/encourage Black men to think critically and to love, value & protect Black women, right...?
equating the response to crimes of individual predators vs response to systemic oppression and its direct symptoms is either:
ignorant (you don't know any better/ didn't fully think this through)
or dishonest (a myopic defense of the status quo born of media bias & white supremacy)
or at worst evil (malicious muddying of the issue in an effort to confuse your opposition)
so you aren't only sexually confused.... and a self hating coon.... you also have very poor comprehension ....
no one in this thread said it should be ok for Kells to fuck children or that its ok for whites to rape /molest children so he should be good too
Beyond amazing. Man, I didn't know how great our court system was until all this R.Kelly/Michael Jackson shit came out. Did you know that there is some magical barrier around the court that compels all who enter to tell the truth?It's amazing, isn't it....?
As to say being found, "Not Guilty" or being acquitted by a jury means a person did not actually commit a crime.
When it's about crimes against Black girls and women, some dudes here are quick to say shit like: "R. Kelly was acquitted of past sexual crimes".
But when it's four White cops who shoot an unarmed Black man and are found, "Not Guilty" by that same jury, those dudes are outraged and shouting colorful slogans like: "No Justice. No Peace", and crying for federal courts involvement...
Didn't know that shit until recently. Zimmerman played this same court system like a fiddle. It's not what you know, but what you can prove.
R. Kelly's Ex-Attorney: Singer Took Anti-Libido Shots to Suppress Urges
https://www.complex.com/music/2019/03/r-kelly-former-lawyer-says-singer-was-guilty-as-hell
R. Kelly's former lawyer isn't biting his tongue.
More than a decade after he helped Kelly beat child pornography charges, veteran attorney Ed Genson told the Chicago Sun Times that the singer was guilty, actually guilty of those crimes—"guilty as hell" to be more precise. The 77-year-old spoke candidly about his ex-client's behavior, but said he doesn't believe Kelly hasn't "done anything inappropriate for years." Why is he so sure? Because he convinced Kelly to take medication to suppress his sexual urges.
"I can say whatever I want, but we've got to do it fast. It would be nice to get it down so somebody knows besides me," Genson told the outlet. "I'll tell you a secret: I had him go to a doctor to get shots, libido-killing shots. That's why he didn’t get arrested for anything else."
Despite his assertion that Kelly was guilty, Genson said he wasn't conflicted about keeping this disgraced singer out of prison.
"I didn’t facilitate him. He had already done what he'd done," explained Genson, who is battling terminal bile duct cancer. "I did facilitate him in the sense I kept him out of trouble for 10 years. I was vetting his records. I listened to them, which ones would make a judge mad."
Genson pointed to Kelly's 2003 song "Ignition" as one of the most problematic works. He said that the original version hinted at Kelly's attraction to underage girls: "It was originally [about] a high school instructor in a class teaching people how to drive a car. I changed the words," he said.
Though Genson said Kelly was good at churning out hit songs, he said the singer is not "a very bright person." Genson also theorized that Kelly became overly confident and negligent after winning his 2008 child pornography case.
"What he doesn't understand is this: If you win a case with somebody, they think they're bulletproof," Genson said. "You're almost better off, sort of, losing. He thinks he can do whatever the hell he wants. He has done everything he can to hurt himself."
You can read Genson's full interview here.
Kelly is now facing 10 counts of aggravated criminal sexual abuse involving four women; three of whom were underage at the time of the alleged incidents. The 52-year-old artist denied the abuse allegations during a recent televised interview with CBS' Gayle King.
"I didn't do this stuff! This is not me! I'm fighting for my fucking life! Y'all killing me with this shit," he shouted during the tense sit-down. "I gave y'all 30 years of my career! Thirty years of my career and y'all trying to kill me? You're killing me, man. This is not about music. I'm trying to have a relationship with my kids and I can't do it! Y'all just don't wanna believe the truth. You don't wanna believe it."
Shortly after the interview aired, Kelly found himself back behind bars for failure to pay over $161,000 in child support. He also is reportedly under investigation for alleged sexual assault on a 13-year-old in 2001.
https://www.complex.com/music/2019/03/r-kelly-former-lawyer-says-singer-was-guilty-as-hell
R. Kelly's former lawyer isn't biting his tongue.
More than a decade after he helped Kelly beat child pornography charges, veteran attorney Ed Genson told the Chicago Sun Times that the singer was guilty, actually guilty of those crimes—"guilty as hell" to be more precise. The 77-year-old spoke candidly about his ex-client's behavior, but said he doesn't believe Kelly hasn't "done anything inappropriate for years." Why is he so sure? Because he convinced Kelly to take medication to suppress his sexual urges.
"I can say whatever I want, but we've got to do it fast. It would be nice to get it down so somebody knows besides me," Genson told the outlet. "I'll tell you a secret: I had him go to a doctor to get shots, libido-killing shots. That's why he didn’t get arrested for anything else."
Despite his assertion that Kelly was guilty, Genson said he wasn't conflicted about keeping this disgraced singer out of prison.
"I didn’t facilitate him. He had already done what he'd done," explained Genson, who is battling terminal bile duct cancer. "I did facilitate him in the sense I kept him out of trouble for 10 years. I was vetting his records. I listened to them, which ones would make a judge mad."
Genson pointed to Kelly's 2003 song "Ignition" as one of the most problematic works. He said that the original version hinted at Kelly's attraction to underage girls: "It was originally [about] a high school instructor in a class teaching people how to drive a car. I changed the words," he said.
Though Genson said Kelly was good at churning out hit songs, he said the singer is not "a very bright person." Genson also theorized that Kelly became overly confident and negligent after winning his 2008 child pornography case.
"What he doesn't understand is this: If you win a case with somebody, they think they're bulletproof," Genson said. "You're almost better off, sort of, losing. He thinks he can do whatever the hell he wants. He has done everything he can to hurt himself."
You can read Genson's full interview here.
Kelly is now facing 10 counts of aggravated criminal sexual abuse involving four women; three of whom were underage at the time of the alleged incidents. The 52-year-old artist denied the abuse allegations during a recent televised interview with CBS' Gayle King.
"I didn't do this stuff! This is not me! I'm fighting for my fucking life! Y'all killing me with this shit," he shouted during the tense sit-down. "I gave y'all 30 years of my career! Thirty years of my career and y'all trying to kill me? You're killing me, man. This is not about music. I'm trying to have a relationship with my kids and I can't do it! Y'all just don't wanna believe the truth. You don't wanna believe it."
Shortly after the interview aired, Kelly found himself back behind bars for failure to pay over $161,000 in child support. He also is reportedly under investigation for alleged sexual assault on a 13-year-old in 2001.
Like I said, this R Kelly shit is a conclusion looking for facts. He could be found not guilty in court a dozen times and it won’t change people’s lust for retribution.
I’m not sure how you can compare state sanctioned murder of black men to two grown thots gettin their Dubai on with R Kelly. That’s a reach, but I’m sure that logic gets lots of likes on Facebook.It's amazing, isn't it....?
As to say being found, "Not Guilty" or being acquitted by a jury means a person did not actually commit a crime.
When it's about crimes against Black girls and women, some dudes here are quick to say shit like: "R. Kelly was acquitted of past sexual crimes".
But when it's four White cops who shoot an unarmed Black man and are found, "Not Guilty" by that same jury, those dudes are outraged and shouting colorful slogans like: "No Justice. No Peace", and crying for federal courts involvement...
#1. Please re-read my post. It very clearly was directed at and addressed those "handful" of brothers you mentioned.
#2. If you are incapable of seeing the inequality in the way Black women are treated in the call for protection and justice within The Black Community, then I think you aren't paying attention.
#3. Prove me wrong. When Black men have been treated unfairly, unjustly or even killed by police, the Community almost goes into auto- pilot when calling for justice and the arrests of those cops. But with R. Kelly; in spite of physical evidence and his own actions (past and present) far too many folks (both men & women) not only advocate for this predator, but go so far as to blame and attack his victims (Black girls & women).
Hell, even The Boondocks animated series pointed out this lunacy in The Black Community in regards:
However, when Huey Freeman pointed it out, folks found it to be thought provoking and profound...
...but when I point it out, you question my racial identity.
Finally.
#4. If YOU need me to be White in order to understand and accept (although not agree with) my POV's, then so be it...
It's as I've said before, I guess only a White man could possibly advocate/encourage Black men to think critically and to love, value & protect Black women, right...?
Bs... Number 2 let a known pedo roam in a lot of areas and he would end up fucked up or killed... I seen a nig damn near get a gun stuck down his throat cause he decided to drink in a children park around kids... Dude was sitting in a park by himself drinking it rubbed certain people wrong...they asked what was his intent basically was he some weirdo pedo.. He kinda brushed it off.. Things got intense a gun was put on his lips...he was removed... Lot of people don't play those games when it comes to kids...I can tell you some stories about how black community come together in situations in defense of kids...Kelly live in outskirts I bet there's some hoods he can't walk through with no security
#1. Please re-read my post. It very clearly was directed at and addressed those "handful" of brothers you mentioned.
#2. If you are incapable of seeing the inequality in the way Black women are treated in the call for protection and justice within The Black Community, then I think you aren't paying attention.
#3. Prove me wrong. When Black men have been treated unfairly, unjustly or even killed by police, the Community almost goes into auto- pilot when calling for justice and the arrests of those cops. But with R. Kelly; in spite of physical evidence and his own actions (past and present) far too many folks (both men & women) not only advocate for this predator, but go so far as to blame and attack his victims (Black girls & women).
Hell, even The Boondocks animated series pointed out this lunacy in The Black Community in regards:
However, when Huey Freeman pointed it out, folks found it to be thought provoking and profound...
...but when I point it out, you question my racial identity.
Finally.
#4. If YOU need me to be White in order to understand and accept (although not agree with) my POV's, then so be it...
It's as I've said before, I guess only a White man could possibly advocate/encourage Black men to think critically and to love, value & protect Black women, right...?
What in the entire fuck does black men being killed by police have to do with R Kelly?
This is where black feminism goes off the rails. They try to hijack black death for their own agenda. ‘Well, ya’ll need to stand up for black women like ya’ll stand up for police shootings’. Bitch no! Where is Amber Rose and her ‘slut walk’ when you need her....
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Do tell.
You point out 1 situation that you saw involving the public consumption of alcohol in a park and equate this with pedophile behavior....?
And yet, R. Kelly (a known predator) often very publically drove around and hung out around middle schools & high schools IN Chicago preying on young Black girls.
Hell, this dude even hung out in and around very public, local McDonalds IN Chicago just to recruit/pick up young Black girls.
So, where were the dudes with the guns you allege are looking to catch: "a known pedo roam in a lot of areas and he would end up fucked up or killed..."?
Yeah dude, you proved my original point.
This has NOTHING to do with "Black feminism". But has everything to do with protecting Black girls and women.
I rest my case...
Fine. Protect them. That has nothing to do with Walter Scott being shot in the back by police. Just leave that shit out.Do tell.
You point out 1 situation that you saw involving the public consumption of alcohol in a park and equate this with pedophile behavior....?
And yet, R. Kelly (a known predator) often very publically drove around and hung out around middle schools & high schools IN Chicago preying on young Black girls.
Hell, this dude even hung out in and around very public, local McDonalds IN Chicago just to recruit/pick up young Black girls.
So, where were the dudes with the guns you allege are looking to catch: "a known pedo roam in a lot of areas and he would end up fucked up or killed..."?
Yeah dude, you proved my original point.
This has NOTHING to do with "Black feminism". But has everything to do with protecting Black girls and women.
I rest my case...
There are so many different things being debating in this thread,Up,down,left,right and in the middle .
Our society is a society that pawns off their kids for a better financial future,this is no secret.If you don't believe me go check out the Sparkle Interview from the breakfast club where she admits to her brother,R.Kelly's victims father from his first trial continues to still work with R.Kelly playing guitar on all of his albums which he receives money for and without a doubt he knows that it's his daughter in that video but money has come before his own judgement
There are grown ass men who search and seek out to take advantage of young women and men that come from not so positive backgrounds and or might have a moment where their judgement isn't up to par.
These new girls I don't believe them but it doesn't matter because just off of public opinion he's cooked if not jail time his career is no more.
Our society is a society that pawns off their kids for a better financial future,this is no secret.If you don't believe me go check out the Sparkle Interview from the breakfast club where she admits to her brother,R.Kelly's victims father from his first trial continues to still work with R.Kelly playing guitar on all of his albums which he receives money for and without a doubt he knows that it's his daughter in that video but money has come before his own judgement
There are grown ass men who search and seek out to take advantage of young women and men that come from not so positive backgrounds and or might have a moment where their judgement isn't up to par.
These new girls I don't believe them but it doesn't matter because just off of public opinion he's cooked if not jail time his career is no more.
Sorry dude.
Black people are suffering and dying here in America.
We don't have the luxury of dividing ourselves based on who suffers more (Black men or Black women).
Hence, the purpose of my original post. The murder of Black men as well as the rape of Black girls & women demand the same outrage & cries for justice.
And any race who does not band together to safeguard and protect its women & children will simply cease to exist.
Rape is a crime. Black men are falsely accused of rape on the regular, and are convicted, and exonerated years later. State sanctioned shootings of unarmed black men is not a crime. As a matter of fact no one has ever been falsely accused of killing a black man without the permission of the government. The burden of proof and consequence are light years away.Sorry dude.
Black people are suffering and dying here in America.
We don't have the luxury of dividing ourselves based on who suffers more (Black men or Black women).
Hence, the purpose of my original post. The murder of Black men as well as the rape of Black girls & women demand the same outrage & cries for justice.
And any race who does not band together to safeguard and protect its women & children will simply cease to exist.