Ron Paul Voted against the 1964 Civil Rights Act

[The Pap Smear]

@ 4:51 Ron Paul shows his true colors! 9/11 Was an Inside Job, but Fuck Ron Paul he's Racist!

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Racist Bastard! I like Alex Jones, but I can't support this guy! Fuck him!
http://www.lewrockwell.com/paul/paul188.html

He also voted against the 50TH ANNIVERSARY OF BROWN V. BOARD OF EDUCATION:

http://votesmart.org/speech_detail.php?sc_id=110720&keyword=&phrase=&contain=

 

[VegasGuy]

This bitch had a nerve to discuss "property rights" while answering a question on the 1964 civil rights act. Anybody else here see a problem with how his thinking is wired up? He sounds like he's David Duke's kinfolk.

-VG

 

[The Pap Smear]

This bitch had a nerve to discuss "property rights" while answering a question on the 1964 civil rights act. Anybody else here see a problem with how his thinking is wired up? He sounds like he's David Duke's kinfolk.

-VG

Exactly, "property rights" is a red herring, even if you agree with him what would've been the alternative?

 

[bklyn1889]

man stop with the bullshit! the man was simply saying that slavery could have ended in another way! plus it is a known fact that president Lincoln did not give a damn about slavery!

 

[The Pap Smear]

man stop with the bullshit! the man was simply saying that slavery could have ended in another way! plus it is a known fact that president Lincoln did not give a damn about slavery!

I must admit, I need to do more research on Paul's position on Slavery, but how do you explain him voting against the 1964 Civil Rights Act?

 

[divine]

Don't get me wrong, I do like Ron Paul..but I disgaree with him on this issue.

To say that the civil war was not the right way to get rid of slavery (we all know that Lincoln didn't care, he just wanted to focrce the saving of the union)... but Paul suggests that the gov't "buy" the slaves and then release them. To me, that mentality tends to lend some credit to the twisted thinking that Black folx were property that you had to buy and release. That doesn't sound like he's saying Black people are human and slavery is/was dead wrong.

man stop with the bullshit! the man was simply saying that slavery could have ended in another way! plus it is a known fact that president Lincoln did not give a damn about slavery!

 

[glueguy]

To me, that mentality tends to lend some credit to the twisted thinking that Black folx were property that you had to buy and release. That doesn't sound like he's saying Black people are human and slavery is/was dead wrong.


sounds like ron paul is telling his black supporters (slaves) he look at them like property not unlike the sub prime fiasco

 

[bklyn1889]

To me, that mentality tends to lend some credit to the twisted thinking that Black folx were property that you had to buy and release. That doesn't sound like he's saying Black people are human and slavery is/was dead wrong.


sounds like ron paul is telling his black supporters (slaves) he look at them like property not unlike the sub prime fiasco

stfu already! listen we (black people) in this land of the united states WERE considered slaves! YES! we Were! He is speaking from a past aspect of things!!! whether the man says property or not it doesn't matter now because slavery is over! stop thinking like dickheads!

 

[The Pap Smear]

stfu already! listen we (black people) in this land of the united states WERE considered slaves! YES! we Were! He is speaking from a past aspect of things!!! whether the man says property or not it doesn't matter now because slavery is over! stop thinking like dickheads!

Yo, what's with the name calling? Grow up, that street mentality is played out whether you realize it or not. Yes we were slaves but who had the most money back then in America? The losers who owned the Slaves or the Federal Government?

 

[Ill Paragraph]

stfu already! listen we (black people) in this land of the united states WERE considered slaves! YES! we Were! He is speaking from a past aspect of things!!! whether the man says property or not it doesn't matter now because slavery is over! stop thinking like dickheads!

So people are thinking like "dickheads" because they don't a) agree with you or b) prostrate before the altar of your hero, Ron Paul? By the way, why haven't you bothered to address the Civil Rights question?

The fact is, it's easy for privileged whites like Ron Paul to attempt to intellectualize an issue that is so emotional to us. I don't really fault him for that. I do fault him for his opposition to the 1964 Civil Right Act. Slavery had ended quite a few years before that. If he can't be bothered to support simple protections for black folks, what makes any of his black supporters think he has their interests at heart?

 

[The Pap Smear]

So people are thinking like "dickheads" because they don't a) agree with you or b) prostrate before the altar of your hero, Ron Paul? By the way, why haven't you bothered to address the Civil Rights question?

The fact is, it's easy for privileged whites like Ron Paul to attempt to intellectualize an issue that is so emotional to us. I don't really fault him for that. I do fault him for his opposition to the 1964 Civil Right Act. Slavery had ended quite a few years before that. If he can't be bothered to support simple protections for black folks, what makes any of his black supporters think he has their interests at heart?

Exactly, dude totally dodged the 1964 Civil Rights Act question.

 

[glueguy]

stfu already! listen we (black people) in this land of the united states WERE considered slaves! YES! we Were! He is speaking from a past aspect of things!!! whether the man says property or not it doesn't matter now because slavery is over! stop thinking like dickheads!

you mad. i asked a simple question and you are mad

 

[t0k3]

Exactly, dude totally dodged the 1964 Civil Rights Act question.

No he didn't.
Russert asked him if he would vote against it and he replied that he would if it was written the same way.
You're missing the big picture.
He's saying that the federal government acts on minimalist terms.
If they can get by on doing as little as possible and if that makes a few people happy then mission accomplished.
These are programs that tax payers pay for,it's like paying for a steak and getting a hamburger instead.
The hamburger might fill you up but it's not what you ordered or it's not up to standard.

 

[The Pap Smear]

No he didn't.
Russert asked him if he would vote against it and he replied that he would if it was written the same way.
You're missing the big picture.
He's saying that the federal government acts on minimalist terms.
If they can get by on doing as little as possible and if that makes a few people happy then mission accomplished.
These are programs that tax payers pay for,it's like paying for a steak and getting a hamburger instead.
The hamburger might fill you up but it's not what you ordered or it's not up to standard.

Look, I agree with most of Paul's views, but why the fuck did he voted against the 1964 Civil Rights Act? "Property rights" is a red herring, even if you agree with him what would've been the alternative?

 

[Dert Bagg]

I must admit, I need to do more research on Paul's position on Slavery, but how do you explain him voting against the 1964 Civil Rights Act?

1) How did he vote against it if he didn't get to Congress until '76?

2) His criticism of it and of similar legislation since, is, nevertheless, based on his libertarian worldview. Libertarians, who are overwhelmingly white & male, see the government as the major form of oppression. Its the government, telling people what they can and can't do with their property, taking their taxes, over-regulating their businesses, etc, that is the major obstacle in their self-actualization. It's a valid criticism of government intervention, but is laughable for people who see entrenched socio-economic inequity as the major source of oppression, and the governments power to intervene as a welcome source of relief. Its the same ol' debate over freedom v equality. Libertarians trumpet freedom because among their ranks, equality is a given. Those of us with a front row seat to social inequity are much more likely to restrict a persons freedom (e.g. to not sell a house to a particular race) in the interest of increasing equality.

When you understand the belief, its not that deep. Just know what your interests are and vote accordingly, because they certainly will.

 

[Ill Paragraph]

1) How did he vote against it if he didn't get to Congress until '76?

2) His criticism of it and of similar legislation since, is, nevertheless, based on his libertarian worldview. Libertarians, who are overwhelmingly white & male, see the government as the major form of oppression. Its the government, telling people what they can and can't do with their property, taking their taxes, over-regulating their businesses, etc, that is the major obstacle in their self-actualization. It's a valid criticism of government intervention, but is laughable for people who see entrenched socio-economic inequity as the major source of oppression, and the governments power to intervene as a welcome source of relief. Its the same ol' debate over freedom v equality. Libertarians trumpet freedom because among their ranks, equality is a given. Those of us with a front row seat to social inequity are much more likely to restrict a persons freedom (e.g. to not sell a house to a particular race) in the interest of increasing equality.

When you understand the belief, its not that deep. Just know what your interests are and vote accordingly, because they certainly will.

Dert Bagg has it right.

 

[The Pap Smear]

1) How did he vote against it if he didn't get to Congress until '76?

He voted against the 40th ANNIVERSARY of it, meaning he's still opposed to "Forced Intergation". Please explain to me what would've been a better alternative to the 1964 Civil Rights Act not involving the Federal Government.

2) His criticism of it and of similar legislation since, is, nevertheless, based on his libertarian worldview.

That's what I'd like to think, yet his record looks more like a Racist's worldview. People will say anything to get elected when they are running for President, so if he's against the 1964 Civil Rights Act, how do I know he values my interests?

Libertarians, who are overwhelmingly white & male, see the government as the major form of oppression. Its the government, telling people what they can and can't do with their property, taking their taxes, over-regulating their businesses, etc, that is the major obstacle in their self-actualization. It's a valid criticism of government intervention, but is laughable for people who see entrenched socio-economic inequity as the major source of oppression, and the governments power to intervene as a welcome source of relief. Its the same ol' debate over freedom v equality. Libertarians trumpet freedom because among their ranks, equality is a given. Those of us with a front row seat to social inequity are much more likely to restrict a persons freedom (e.g. to not sell a house to a particular race) in the interest of increasing equality.

When you understand the belief, its not that deep. Just know what your interests are and vote accordingly, because they certainly will.

Again, please explain to me what would've been a better alternative to the 1964 Civil Rights Act not involving the Federal Government. Something like the 1964 Civil Rights Act should be an exception for any Libertarian ideology.

 

[TUMTUMBACU]

Listen To What He's Saying And Writing. I Agree With The Way He Explained His Position.

 

[Profit]

Those of us with a front row seat to social inequity are much more likely to restrict a persons freedom (e.g. to not sell a house to a particular race) in the interest of increasing equality.

So basically, racist can be openly overt and legally racist. With that said.... explain to me why I'd want this type atmosphere.

 

[t0k3]

Again, please explain to me what would've been a better alternative to the 1964 Civil Rights Act not involving the Federal Government. The 1964 Civil Rights Act should be an exception for any Libertarian ideology.

An act not written in 5 minutes and one that was thoroughly thought out.
Which will never happen under federal control.

 

[Profit]

I see how Bush got 8 years.

I can almost understand how black women are torn between a woman and a black man.... but you niggas.... WOW.

You niggas trying to elect STORMFRONT's go-to guy for president.

http://weblogs.baltimoresun.com/news/politics/blog/2007/12/ron_pauls_thoughtprovoking_cho.html

I'm not even going to debate if he should've given the money back. Drop in over there and see who they want elected and why.

 

[The Pap Smear]

Again, please explain to me what would've been a better alternative to the 1964 Civil Rights Act not involving the Federal Government. The 1964 Civil Rights Act should be an exception for any Libertarian ideology.

An act not written in 5 minutes and one that was thoroughly thought out.
Which will never happen under federal control.

You didn't answer the question. Give an alternative to the act.

 

[Profit]

An act not written in 5 minutes and one that was thoroughly thought out.
Which will never happen under federal control.

Riiiiight. And who, if not the federal gov, would write such a law? who would enforce it?

 

[t0k3]

You didn't answer the question. Give an alternative to the act.

I'm not a politician so I don't have all the answers.
If I did I would be running myself....then again,fuck that.
All i do know is that I'm happy that somebody is thinking out out of the box in politics.
Republican and democratic politics do not work,not for the bottom 99% anyway.

 

[Dr. Truth]

Why do you dumb niggas support this racist? WHY? So many coons would vote for this devil over Obama. WHY. There is no justification for supporting this evil slime cracka. You niggas are pathetic sambos.

 

[The Pap Smear]

I'm not a politician so I don't have all the answers.

Riiiiiiight, yet you claim you're informed enough to vote?

Republican and democratic politics do not work,not for the bottom 99% anyway.

I agree, but why vote for Ron Paul?

 

[t0k3]

I see how Bush got 8 years.

I can almost understand how black women are torn between a woman and a black man.... but you niggas.... WOW.

You niggas trying to elect STORMFRONT's go-to guy for president.

http://weblogs.baltimoresun.com/news/politics/blog/2007/12/ron_pauls_thoughtprovoking_cho.html

I'm not even going to debate if he should've given the money back. Drop in over there and see who they want elected and why.

I actually did go to Stormfront because I want to understand the enemy.
Like Sun-tzu said,keep your friends close and your enemies closer.
I guess even racist fucks want smaller government too.
Everyone is tired of the bullshit.

 

[t0k3]

Riiiiiiight, yet you claim you're informed enough to vote?



I agree, but Ron Paul is a Republican!

Ron Paul is a libertarian running on the republican ticket.
He's no fool,running on an independent ticket would be suicide.

 

[The Pap Smear]

Why do you dumb niggas support this racist? WHY?

They reason why is because there's a lot of Black Folks who are part of the 9/11 Truth Movement. I listen to Alex Jones, but I can't support Ron Paul.....NEVER.

 

[African Herbsman]

Vote for who you want to vote for. This shit has gotten pointless.

 

[PEACE1]

Cosign Dr Sleuth!!

This board is getting flooded with black folks who absolutely hate their own respective race. This shit is getting more and more pointless make posts now a days. Every thread is getting hihjacked by self hatred and ignorance.

 

[t0k3]

Vote for who you want to vote for. This shit has gotten pointless.

Exactly,for Ron Paul not being a threat people sure are jumping out of the wood work to post "Ron Paul Exposed" threads every 5 minutes.

 

[Profit]

Exactly,for Ron Paul not being a threat people sure are jumping out of the wood work to post "Ron Paul Exposed" threads every 5 minutes.

I think its because we have a hard time understanding why you black folks want someone who does not have the least bit of our interest in office. That is, assuming you are black or even a minority. Ron Paul may be for the good of the country but it would certainly come at the expense of anybody not rich or white.

I think I get it though. 400-some odd years ago... there were house negroes. What ever bad happened to massa, they said happened to "us". They made all kinds of excuses and justifications for why massa treated field niggas so harsh.

No more Ron Paul debates for me... I'm done. If you can't see it - you probably won't until after we's free - despite your insubordination.

OBAMA 08 shittin on ya'll House Niggas.

 

[Dr. Truth]

Exactly,for Ron Paul not being a threat people sure are jumping out of the wood work to post "Ron Paul Exposed" threads every 5 minutes.

Yes Because BGOL is the gauge for the US..... The fuck outta here. Ron Paul don't have a chance.

 

[Makkonnen]

I'm glad the Ron Paul debate has developed.