Ruiz vs Joshua - DID THIS NIGGA COME IN AT 283 POUNDS????

EPDC

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again heavyweights usually have a targeted weight they want to be at during fight time
therefore they follow similar weight loss methods as lighter fighters to be explosive on fight night
again i bet you anything ruiz ate before weighing in
They supposedly weighed in, during the evening local time. He said he ate breakfast, lunch and dinner prior to the weigh in.

Quite possible his weight is attributed to this.
 

alexw

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They supposedly weighed in, during the evening local time. He said he ate breakfast, lunch and dinner prior to the weigh in.

Quite possible his weight is attributed to this.

damn lmaooooooooo
but yeah if he trained hard then that is easily the weight he gained back plus he didnt weigh in in his boxers
dude knows his body as long as that hand speed is still there, AJ is in for a long night
but he isnt going to gas
 

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again heavyweights usually have a targeted weight they want to be at during fight time
therefore they follow similar weight loss methods as lighter fighters to be explosive on fight night
again i bet you anything ruiz ate before weighing in
Again, they can have whatever weight they wanna target for whatever reason
They DON'T dehydrate themselves to make ANY weight before a weigh in
That's a tactic used in lighter weights as a weapon. To see who can make (160)
yet come in the bigger man without killing themselves.
Totally different in Heavyweight cause that's out the window.
Haha, I been in boxing long time, you are 100% mixed up or thinking incorrectly
He's a fat hog. No need to make excuses for him

FYI - He's gone 10 rounds three times in 30 fights and 12 once (he lost)
The weight gain is shadows of Buster Douglas when he Holyfield only WORSE
cause he never was in shape to begin with
 

rude_dog

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That's fucking ridiculous. That hat don't weigh 15 pounds. I got to wonder if he has quarters in his pockets, trying to play mind games with Joshua. Shit, even a couple of rolls of quarters doesn't weigh 15 pounds. Maybe he's hoping for a physically cruelly fight where he can lay on Joshua.
 

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Ok fells, who are we rooting for tomorrow?

I always root for the Brotha but...

If Joshua wins, he’ll just continue to duck Wilder and they might fight in 2032. :dunno:

If Ruiz wins, he gets stomped out by Wilder in May.

Those basically are the choices.
 

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How much was his paycheck...dude was eating too good.

We'll see if it was styles or Joshua took him lightly
 

"THE MAN"

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Ok fells, who are we rooting for tomorrow?

I always root for the Brotha but...

If Joshua wins, he’ll just continue to duck Wilder and they might fight in 2032. :dunno:

If Ruiz wins, he gets stomped out by Wilder in May.

Those basically are the choices.
Rooting for Joshua. I want him to get it together honestly. If he loses then he needs to find another line of work. Because he won't be able to hang with Wilder, Fury or hell maybe even Ortiz. He will never be a huge star again and will need to fight cans.
 

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Rooting for Joshua. I want him to get it together honestly. If he loses then he needs to find another line of work. Because he won't be able to hang with Wilder, Fury or hell maybe even Ortiz. He will never be a huge star again and will need to fight cans.

I agree with everything you said plus, if he loses he definitely retires.
 

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Again, they can have whatever weight they wanna target for whatever reason
They DON'T dehydrate themselves to make ANY weight before a weigh in
That's a tactic used in lighter weights as a weapon. To see who can make (160)
yet come in the bigger man without killing themselves.
Totally different in Heavyweight cause that's out the window.
Haha, I been in boxing long time, you are 100% mixed up or thinking incorrectly
He's a fat hog. No need to make excuses for him
:smh:
 

rude_dog

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I'm rooting for Joshua but I really don't have a pick in this fight. Joshua should win but I can't really put money on someone with a glass jaw. I was willing to give him the benefit of the doubt when Kitschko knocked him down. No shame in getting knocked down by a great fighter but it's the way he's reacted to getting hit. Not just Klitschko and Ruiz but also the way he was wobbled by Dillian Whyte. His whole body short circuits and just discombobulates.

In the first fight, he seemed off from the beginning. When he stepped into the ring, he bobbed and weaved under the ropes several times. I was like what the fuck is he doing. It was like he was trying to wake himself up. Then during the long introductions, he kept his mouthpiece in. I told my son then, he's going to need that air later.
 

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All reports indicated that Ruiz was going to slim down, however yesterday Ruiz said he wanted to keep the weight to increase his power. Ruiz is deceivingly quick so Joshua better be careful or he will hit the canvas again.

Joshua has an 8 inch reach advantage and if he’s smart he’ll use it. Can’t put my money on this fight, it really is 50-50 for me....
 

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All reports indicated that Ruiz was going to slim down, however yesterday Ruiz said he wanted to keep the weight to increase his power. Ruiz is deceivingly quick so Joshua better be careful or he will hit the canvas again.
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trick20

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If you watched the fight he caught him with a good shot in the temple
He never recovered. It was 100% luck. He'd already been down at that point too....
He fought back in desperation (I'll give him that)
Big belly fans won't be smiling this time
There has NEVER been a fat outta shape piece of shit champ like Ruiz
in the last 50 years. Time's up Saturday

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This...im not gonna say ruiz overrated but that fight was one punch that landed in an exchange...i could be wrong but i dont think this is gonna be competitive at all.
 

jagu

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This...im not gonna say ruiz overrated but that fight was one punch that landed in an exchange...i could be wrong but i dont think this is gonna be competitive at all.
Go look at his fight with Parker. The guy is relentless. AJ needs to kill him in the first 3-4 rounds or else AJ will catch another errant blow.
 

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This will be Lewis v Rahman 2. The fat man's 15 minutes are up.
 

the13thround

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:lol: @ some of the responses in this thread.
Ruiz is gonna win again.
Joshua's team is doing him a disservice by taking an immediate rematch.
He should have fought a couple of bums to get his confidence back.
Its going to end badly for the kid.
As soon as he gets hit, he's going to revert back to the 1st fight because it takes a while to get KOs off your brain.
Not to mention, Ruiz has been boxing since he was 3, Joshua started at 18.
Experience matters.
They're on two entirely different skill levels.
Just watch it unfold tomorrow....
 

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:lol: @ some of the responses in this thread.
Ruiz is gonna win again.
Joshua's team is doing him a disservice by taking an immediate rematch.
He should have fought a couple of bums to get his confidence back.
Its going to end badly for the kid.
As soon as he gets hit, he's going to revert back to the 1st fight because it takes a while to get KOs off your brain.
Not to mention, Ruiz has been boxing since he was 3, Joshua started at 18.
Experience matters.
They're on two entirely different skill levels.
Just watch it unfold tomorrow....

All good points. I definitely think his people should have put off the fight and gave him a tune up. I wonder if they were worried Ruiz might fight Ortiz or Wilder in the meantime.

I thought about the experience factor but Klitschko, Parker and Povetkin all had equal pedigrees and he beat them. Parker even had a victory of Ruiz. I know Klitschko and Povetkin were faded fighters by time Joshua fought them but were probably still better than any victory Ruiz had. The added weight problem may be a problem for Ruiz. Think about how little experience Foreman had when he crushed Fraizer and Norton. Ruiz aint' not Ali. But Ruiz does fight with the skills of a smaller man. He reminds me of a fat center with ball-handling skills.

I wouldn't money on either one of them. One's got a glass chin and the other is obese.

ANDY RUIZ JR. SAYS HE CAME IN 15 POUNDS HEAVIER FOR REMATCH TO MESS WITH ANTHONY JOSHUA'S HEAD
https://www.dazn.com/en-US/news/box...hony-joshua-rematch/85fa6uyox03s173zlv3ykpijh

I don't care what he says. The pants and sombrero don't weigh 15 pounds. I wonder if they hid weights on him. The fact that he ate doesn't make a difference, he's a heavyweight, he probably eats before all weigh-in's. He doesn't have to cut weight. We'll see tomorrow if they do an unofficial weigh-in before the fight. One minute he says he was the same weight as the first fight, then he says he intentionally added weight. I don't think the extra weight is going to help. It's more weight to lay on Joshua but it's also more weight to move around with. 15 pounds of fat is not going to make him a much heavier puncher.
 

gman4gov

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I doubt it. Punching power comes from leverage and technique more than weight. Look at Deontay Wilder. He’s got more stamina and quickness with minimal effect on power.
This...

He might come in way overweight, but there are some fights he's come in at this weight. I think he has the boxing community looking as he might be all tired and shit, but maybe that could be a psychological ploy on everyone. Joshua, his fans and handlers might be deceived as well, be we shall see when the bell rings.
 

the13thround

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One's got a glass chin and the other is obese.



I don't care what he says. The pants and sombrero don't weigh 15 pounds. I wonder if they hid weights on him. The fact that he ate doesn't make a difference, he's a heavyweight, he probably eats before all weigh-in's. He doesn't have to cut weight. We'll see tomorrow if they do an unofficial weigh-in before the fight. One minute he says he was the same weight as the first fight, then he says he intentionally added weight. I don't think the extra weight is going to help. It's more weight to lay on Joshua but it's also more weight to move around with. 15 pounds of fat is not going to make him a much heavier puncher.
Ruiz has been the fat kid his entire life.
He knows his body and what works for him.
He amassed a 105-5 amateur record as a fat guy.
Two time Mexican National Champion...........as a fat guy.
Do you you know how hard that is?
Ruiz has one of the greatest amateur records pretty much ever.
Its gotten him this far, so who are we to say he's too fat?
 

rude_dog

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Ruiz has been the fat kid his entire life.
He knows his body and what works for him.
He amassed a 105-5 amateur record as a fat guy.
Two time Mexican National Champion...........as a fat guy.
Do you you know how hard that is?
Ruiz has one of the greatest amateur records pretty much ever.
Its gotten him this far, so who are we to say he's too fat?

I'm familiar with the Imperial Valley boxing scene. I was there for 3 years. I was friends with 2 local boxing trainers. Their whole family was in the game and owned the gym in El Centro. We used to go to the fights over in Mexicali. Some of the hottest women in the world there. I don't think I ever saw a heavyweight fight there. It was almost 20 years ago but I've wondered if I ever saw the little Andy Ruiz.
 
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Its boxing and being human ... good champions AJ height and reach advantage should jab and keeping distance and find the target rhythm range and follow with the straight right from a faint jab and or opening after getting the set position to fire after finding the timing as DW did...

Fam that's boxing fans watched World Undisputed Champs VK and LL do this to perfection with the great ES as trainer.

AJ wasn't in the last fight from the bell... look too relaxed... propped against the corner ropes, nervously chewing on his mouthpiece... normally fighters are out shadow boxing getting ready when in ring before being introduced he was leaning back on the coner ropes... maybe after miller failed his drug test several times and they really couldn't get any decent draw as an easier fight to showcase for the expections as Oritz turned them down... probably knew he could easily knock them out... and you made all this hype coming to United States to fight a flabby Mexican American you know can fight and can make you look bad... seemed a bit dejected before the bout started.

Ruiz held and defended two World titles (smaller) than majors but held them... and you better believe aj saw the WBO title fight AR should have won against Parker where AJ went 12 with him as well so he knew it was not going to be easy.

We all are human, and I think that's what got him so nervous from the start... just the possibilities this guy could go the distance in his US debut and maybe win...probably why his dad was so mad at hearns after the fight from the rumors and AJ so gracious in defeat... he knew it was a good possibility.

BUT STILL aj should have won... at the least a split decision based on the Parker fight between them both.

But as Tyson Fury pointed out hes a typical Brit fighter... like Frank Bruno... try to box you a little bit with some counters and some jabs but more less overpower you with no real movement.

If the great E Stewart had him... es would have him with a reign like LL and VK and even Homes... using that stick and move jab and hold when close... wear you down waiting for the ko opening punch.

So I say that to say, AR is a good and better boxer, a fast counter puncher, that AJ just needs to use his reach to find his follow up punch timing and he will easily win against AR. That's what he did to get the first knock down on AR of his career. So AJ knows what and how with the skillset to do against AR, he just is not coached very well which is why Lennox Lewis was put it out there that he'd train him.

But AJ got too careless and allowed a good counter puncher to throw punches in bunches, in his range, when AJ thought AR was hurt and yes it was a lucky back of the head shot but AJ invited it, not trained well enough to use his reach advantage at all times against a good counter puncher. If you watch DW he does or is now doing a better of this keeping his range advantage to load up.

He actually should have fought him like LL did Tyson or VK did SBriggs.... always kept his jab going to keep him at range to break him down. Man, I despised LL to this day since that fight for not going toe to toe with Tyson... but it was the perfect strategy to use.

This was and is a case of styles winning or you can say losing fights. Therefore, it's not that great an upset to me. I would consider DW losing to ortiz as more of an upset.

Hell, even buster douglas vs Tyson is only billed as the greatest upset on who and how he beat his opponents... not anything from BD background. He wasn't just a low level HW fighter working as a milkman part-time.

BD was a big solid 6-4 230 very good boxing skilled heavyweight... ranked #7 heavyweight at the time by ring mag he fought tyson... his dad was a top middle weight fighter. BD beat two former world champions TB and ON and beat ON prior to him knocking out Lennox Lewis.

He was beating Tony Tucker who took Mike the distance before he ran out of gas. BD main fault was his training and laziness was suspect. And after Tyson cut Rooney and that Givens fiasco... tyson was fighting on 70% intimidation and 20% Talent and 10%training with a big skilled boxer who had confidence and just lost his mother.

That's doesn't mean sleep on Tyson's power over DW for my fam from other thread :lol:

If AR is truly overweight, it must go to Marvelous Marvin Hagler quote that "it's hard to wake up at 5am and do roadwork sleeping in silk pajamas."

I'm seeming to think we're going to be looking at a Buster D vs Holifield match with an easy KO for AJ, unless AR had some weights in his pocket and under that hat... and is actually going to show up even lighter and faster just playing a mind game :dunno:
 
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