So when’s the housing bubble bursting?

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I lived in Reservoir Hill, in Bmore, about 10 years ago.

Extremely beautiful, massive row houses. The cons: too close to "Murder" Mall; TOO DAMN close to North Avenue, which should be named "Get your ass in the house before dark or else Avenue". Really, North Avenue is SO fucked up, that it is very likely the reason most of the property there is relatively affordable.

I am from Detroit. For D folks, imagine an area similar to the Boston-Edison District, but with row houses (some extraordinarily nicely built) instead of conventional mansions.

If your neighbors got roaches/rats, chances are, so do you. But this is an East Coast thing. I ain't wit' it, although I love Bmore. Prefer it to Detroit, actually, for the reasons enumerated above: proximity to DC, international travel at one's fingertips, a significant population that is NOT from the goddamned south, etc.
some parts of baltimore are like warzones, coming from someone raised in the DC area lol
 

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If investors buy, they'll buy at a discount too.


And those discounts are intended for the "institutional" investors, not the mom and pop investors that may be able to get a couple or few at a time. They want to sell whole tracks to wall street backed firms and exacerbate the affordability problem.
 

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A California task force studying the possibility of state reparations estimated that Black residents could receive more than $223,000 each as compensation for the economic effects of racial discrimination over many generations.
The New York Times reported that the nine-member Reparations Task Force, created through legislation signed by Gov. Gavin Newsom in 2020, is expected to release a final report of its recommendations to state lawmakers in 2023. Lawmakers would then decide on how to act and determine how to fund reparations.
At this point, the task force has identified five areas for compensation: housing discrimination, mass incarceration, unjust property seizures, devaluation of Black businesses and health care.
The final compensation sum would likely exceed the $223,000 per person figure, which is based on the divided distribution of $569 billion to each qualified resident just for housing discrimination between 1933 and 1977.
 

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I have always thought it foolish to buy a condo for other than investment purposes (e.g., to rent for income, or flip for profit).
There are too many drawbacks, and, like a REAL house, if you don't pay your taxes, it will be taken from you anyway.

So, if the rules suck as they do, and they do, why not buy something without the negatives of hoping nobody with cockroaches moves above you? Or hoping you don't have to hear the gay couple fucking next door in your row house, because the walls are so thin? Or having some assholes insist on spending YOUR money on some shit you could really do without, but you are outnumbered by other condo "owners"?

Free standing structures, houses as well as commercial properties, are far superior stock, from a purely financial standpoint.
 

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And those discounts are intended for the "institutional" investors, not the mom and pop investors that may be able to get a couple or few at a time. They want to sell whole tracks to wall street backed firms and exacerbate the affordability problem.

The market, such that it is, has never been structured for the common man, if you will, to easily be able to take advantage of the financial possibilities offered by real estate investment.

I have found it beneficial to purchase one, very expensive, quality piece, rather than buying two or three and renting them out. A roof can cost you a shitload, instantly. And one woman with 3 kids, two of which she hid before you rented the place to here, could spell your financial doom, if you are not fortified and amply prepared to take the hit, because you WILL be hit.

One good property can be lived in, used as a base of operation, and depending on the zoning, be used directly for a commercial operation, or rented to another as a base for their commercial operation.

The rental business is best for those who can afford SEVERAL- I would say 6 or more to start small- good, high return income properties. But income properties, even in the best neighborhoods, will not appreciate in the same way as a comparable property in a great neighborhood.

My 2 cents.
 

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I have always thought it foolish to buy a condo for other than investment purposes (e.g., to rent for income, or flip for profit).
There are too many drawbacks, and, like a REAL house, if you don't pay your taxes, it will be taken from you anyway.

So, if the rules suck as they do, and they do, why not buy something without the negatives of hoping nobody with cockroaches moves above you? Or hoping you don't have to hear the gay couple fucking next door in your row house, because the walls are so thin? Or having some assholes insist on spending YOUR money on some shit you could really do without, but you are outnumbered by other condo "owners"?

Free standing structures, houses as well as commercial properties, are far superior stock, from a purely financial standpoint.




Another thing to be weary of too (with condos, highrises, etc) is future developments in the area. If you're looking to buy into a certain area, take a quick visit to city hall and ask about the zoning / planning in the years ahead. They'll let you know what's on the horizon. Also, taking a look at the strata minutes to make sure they're on top of things. Do they have a healthy CRF (contingency reserve fund)? Are there any potential big expenses on the horizon, or have those been handled already (i.e. - elevators, roofing, big renovations)?

On the flip side re: buying property ... development or extension of rapid transit can really help property values. When they improved the skytrain line in the GVRD ...that was a big one for many people.
 

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On the flip side re: buying property ... development or extension of rapid transit can really help property values. When they improved the skytrain line in the GVRD ...that was a big one for many people.
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Very true. MY last house was 2 blocks from a major super market, and about a 5 minute walk to 2 bus lines, which I used for a couple of years because I did not want to pay for a car.

And of course, there is the issue of the school system. I recommend buying the shittiest house in a GREAT municipality, in terms of things like city services, and, in particular, the school system. Rental property in a good school system will ALWAYS hold a certain value, even if the market value of the structure dips. This is because working class, single women with kids, will often, if they can, pay STUPID rent for the ability to send their kids to a good school, without having to pay for private schooling, the fees for which can be prohibitive, even for the fairly well to do.
 
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