The 3-year cruise was canceled. Enter the 3.5-year cruise.......Which BGOL baller is gonna sign-up first? For the unanchored
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Bitches will be on the ports mainland.
They were talking about possible deals to be worked out for double occupancies toodid you miss the per person
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Something like this is so far out of your pay scale.... your dreams..... just get a cruise on a raft made out of old truck tires and you'd be right at home..... nothing but a buch of musty pissy pants Messycans and their repugnant smelling women
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I talked to the cruise ship company there is no special needs people that will be bothering you on the ship. She told me the staff is closely watched and they will be immediately terminated if they do anything.
I know you don't want to get involved in a low level conflict with these fools that will waste your time.
I know you don't want to get involved in a low level conflict with these fools that will waste your time.
You get to look at the same motherfuckers for 3 years. And no escape from them. Anybody that's been on a cruise knows how claustrophobic it is, even with a suite. An inner stateroom forget it.
Is this a vacation cruise?
Is this an experimental “Snowpiercer”?
Or is this a trial run for the upcoming Global Apocalyptic Financial Collapse?……
Is this an experimental “Snowpiercer”?
Or is this a trial run for the upcoming Global Apocalyptic Financial Collapse?……
don't mind going on a 10-14 day cruise (went twice in my life prior to 2020)
after what happened to those cruise ships at the start of the pandemic-i'll pass.
you'd be up shit creek if some other worse sickness breaks out on the ship-or worldwide
after what happened to those cruise ships at the start of the pandemic-i'll pass.
you'd be up shit creek if some other worse sickness breaks out on the ship-or worldwide
its all fun and adventure...until a goddamn virus rips thru that ship! Then what??? Everyone forget what the covid lock down looked like?? What about crimes committed on the open waters...whose jurisdiction does that land on?? What about medical facilities for issue worse than a cold or flu?
Seems a lot more to consider than just travel adventure, drinking umbrella drinks and fucking passengers
Seems a lot more to consider than just travel adventure, drinking umbrella drinks and fucking passengers
You don’t have a ship.
The three-year cruise is canceled because the ship doesn’t exist.
Fri, November 24, 2023 at 7:27 AM PST
Editor’s Note: Sign up for Unlocking the World, CNN Travel’s weekly newsletter. Get the latest news in aviation, food and drink, where to stay and other travel developments.They had signed up for the experience of a lifetime: three years traveling the world from the comfort of a cruise ship, at prices that rivaled regular living expenses.
But now the dream is over for passengers who’d signed up for Life at Sea Cruises’ inaugural three-year voyage. After weeks of silence, the company has acknowledged to passengers that it has no ship, and has canceled the departure, vowing to refund those who’d signed up for cruises costing up to hundreds of thousands of dollars.
The cruise was originally due to depart Istanbul, Turkey, on November 1, but shortly before that date, departure was postponed to November 11 and relocated to Amsterdam in the Netherlands, and then to November 30, again from Amsterdam. But on November 17 – less than two weeks before the third departure date – passengers were informed the cruise was off.
Some of the passengers who booked the 111 cabins sold are still in Istanbul, having made their way there ahead of the original departure date. Others say they have nowhere to return to, having sold or rented out their homes in anticipation of the round-the-world voyage, as well as jettisoning their possessions.
Most have spent tens of thousands of dollars on what was meant to be the experience of a lifetime, and now face a wait of at least several months to get their money back. The company has said it will make repayments in monthly installments, starting from mid-December and completing repayments in late February. It has also offered to pay for accommodation until December 1 and flights home for anyone now stranded in Istanbul. But some say they have no homes to return to.
“There’s a whole lot of people right now with nowhere to go, and some need their refund to even plan a place to go – it’s not good right now,” said one passenger, who wished to remain anonymous until they get their promised refund.
Running aground
Life at Sea Cruises had been planning to buy the AIDAaura, a ship retired this summer by AIDA Cruises, a German subsidiary of Carnival Corp. It was due to be rechristened as the MV Lara. The company had originally slated the sale to go through by the end of September, before working on the ship in dry dock in Germany, then renovating it before sailing to Istanbul to start the cruise.But after six weeks of uncertainty, during which Life at Sea repeatedly told guests that the sale was taking longer than planned, on November 16 another company, Celestyal Cruises, announced that it had bought the AIDAaura.
A day later, Life at Sea’s former CEO Kendra Holmes – who had resigned days earlier and said she was not speaking on behalf of the parent company, Miray Cruises – recorded a 15-minute video for passengers, admitting that the cruise would not be going ahead. It’s unclear why Holmes was chosen to make the announcement, which was provided to CNN by a passenger. She has declined to comment to CNN.
Forty eight hours after Holmes’ video, passengers received a message from Vedat Ugurlu, the owner of Miray Cruises, which owns Life at Sea. Declaring himself “extremely sorry for the inconvenience,” he confirmed the cruise would not be departing as planned. The reason: they couldn’t afford the ship.
In his message, Ugurlu claimed that “Miray is not such a big company to afford to pay 40-50 million for a ship,” but that it had “presented the project to investors, and had official approval from some of them to buy the vessel.”
He said that while the company had made the down payment for the ship, the investors “declined to support us further due to unrest in the Middle East.”
Hamas attacked Israel on October 7, a week after the ship’s sale was originally supposed to have concluded. Life at Sea didn’t respond to a query about what prior unrest they were referring to that could have impeded the completion of the transaction.
Ugurlu also told passengers that day that the company then tried and failed to buy another ship, and that it was working on a third.
“If we will not be able to sail on December 1, we will offer you to sail on another departure date or refund all the payments within a short schedule,” he wrote. “We have tried everything to make your dreams come true and we will continue to do so.”
He added that the company could, in theory, launch the cruise on the MV Gemini, Miray’s smaller ship which it had originally planned for the voyage, before deciding it was too small.
“We choose not to because we have promised you a larger, newer vessel,” he wrote. The Gemini is at the heart of a defamation lawsuit brought by Miray against former managing director of Life at Sea Cruises, Mikael Petterson, who was one of several employees to split from the team in May. The lawsuit states that Petterson called the ship “unseaworthy” – a claim that Miray vehemently denied.
Ups and downs
Miray Cruises had vowed to renovate the AIDAaura ship. - Life At Sea Cruises
Just a day after Ugurlu’s glimmer of hope, another staff member of Life at Sea, Chief Operating Officer Ethem Bayramoglu messaged passengers to confirm that the cruise was off. “In case we weren’t clear, the Life at Sea cruise trip is canceled,” Bayramoglu wrote, giving instructions on the refund process, and how passengers can retrieve “pods” full of their belongings – which they’d shipped in advance of the cruise.
Yet at the same time, Bayramoglu added, the company “intend
“Although we are all disappointed and frustrated that we didn’t sail this time, it is important to us that you feel positive overall about your experience with us,” the message reads. “Vedat in particular is still hopeful that Miray will someday soon have an option for you to consider.”
Bayramoglu subsequently met with stranded passengers in Istanbul to help plan their returns home.
Stormy waters
Would-be cruisers – who wanted to remain anonymous until their refunds come through – have told CNN of their shock and dismay that the trip has been canceled. Some had sold their homes or wound up businesses to join the cruise.“I’m very sad, angry and lost,” said one. “I had the next three years of my life planned to live an extraordinary life, and now [I have] nothing. I’m having a hard time moving forward.
“I was proud and feeling brave, now I don’t trust anyone or anything. I know it’ll work out and life will go on, but I’m uncertain of the direction.”
Another said they felt “incredibly sad and incredibly betrayed.”
“The company seems to have no consideration about what they’ve done to our lives,” they said.
“I never imagined I’d be in this position as a senior citizen.”
They also lamented the loss of community that had been built in the run-up to the cruise: “I was looking forward to building friendships – that’s what made it different from a regular cruise. We were all of the same mindset and all started with the same thing in common.”
A third, speaking just before the cruise was confirmed as canceled, said they were feeling “let down, deceived and betrayed.”
Jumping ship
The cruise had promised to whisk passengers around the globe for three years. - Life At Sea Cruises
In the meantime, Life at Sea’s erstwhile CEO, Kendra Holmes, who resigned last week, claims she’s planning to offer a new long-term cruise with a different company.
In her 15-minute video address to Life at Sea passengers on Friday – despite having already resigned from the company – she solicited interest in a long-term, round-the-world cruise offered by a new company that she’ll be working with, which she named as HLC Cruises.
Holmes didn’t respond to questions from CNN, but a spokesperson for HLC Cruises, who said they were on the company board, confirmed Holmes was the company’s new CEO and told CNN: “We have nothing to do with Life at Sea, we do not want our name to be associated with them, but we are working on something and are trying to help people who are left without homes if we can.” Its website currently advertises “boutique cruise liners” selling duty free gold bullion, diamonds and gems onboard.
Holmes told stranded Life at Sea passengers that if 60 or 70 of them “transferred” to the new company, they would be able to “get something going” by the first week of December, and already had approval from the HLC board to do so.
The company would get a temporary ship to sail for three or four months, she said, while purchasing a permanent vessel for a longer voyage to start next year. If Life at Sea passengers didn’t take up the offer, she said, they’d also be looking to launch a long-term cruise in October 2024.
“There’s a lot of ships out there so we’ll get something in place probably early next week then start looking for a permanent vessel,” she said on November 17 – before updating them via social media 72 hours later that the offer of a temporary cruise was, in fact, off, and that HLC was “targeting an official start date sometime in March.”
“People got their hopes up once again only to be dashed a few days later – I’m surprised no one in the group has had a heart attack,” said one would-be passenger.
Meanwhile, Villa Vie Residences – the company set up by Petterson and the other former Life at Sea staffers who left in May to start their own rival business – is promising low deposits and guaranteed introductory rates for anyone who wants to join them. They do not as yet have a ship or a launch date, either.
Life at Sea Cruises and Miray Cruises did not respond to specific questions from CNN, but sent a statement from Ugurlu addressed to passengers citing “investor withdrawal” causing “challenges” to the project. The letter was sent to CNN November 21 and spoke about a potential upcoming cruise date – despite the cruise having already been canceled.
“While we’re in talks to acquire a similar vessel, if the December 1 sail is jeopardized, we offer alternative departure dates or expedited refunds,” said the statement, which went on to describe the refund process.
“As we navigate these challenges, we are actively working on creating alternative plans for the future, ensuring an unforgettable experience for our valued community,” it concluded.
“I regret any inconvenience and assure you of our commitment.”
One passenger from the failed cruise, however, is feeling more than inconvenienced.
“I’m in a state of disbelief that they’ve done this to us,” they said, adding that staff had started out “eager and confident, and then the past few months just slowly disappeared.”
“I can’t even begin to wrap my head around the disappointment of losing this opportunity,” they said.
“I don’t think they will ever understand how much damage they’ve caused us.”
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The three-year cruise is canceled
Life at Sea Cruises – which was due to launch its three-year round-the-world cruise in November – has called it off. There’s no ship, and passengers are being offered refunds – though the company says it still wants to launch a long-term cruise in the future.
3 years, 90k in rent is a lot of money to waste on property you don't own. Wow...
Opened the thread, looked at the cost, and didn't see how this was feasible for a cruise company. Cost of less than 3k a month is what some pay for one week on a normal cruise.
So seeing they couldn't deliver, kinda could see that coming. Especially the issues of the types that could afford $175k for the couple. Older retired peeps with bread have a certain level of luxury they're accustomed to...
So seeing they couldn't deliver, kinda could see that coming. Especially the issues of the types that could afford $175k for the couple. Older retired peeps with bread have a certain level of luxury they're accustomed to...
Interesting…
He was in on it!
Its worth it bruh,
you dont have to stress over, shopping, buying, perparing and cooking your food,
dont have to worry about daily/weekly chores.....
and you can vlog the whole thing and even make some youtube change, if you get enough
views..and its easy as fuck to get over a thousand subs for a travel channel thumbnail
gotta be
eyecandy....
you gonna get views..
and IF u get over ten thousand subscribers, with going live, with superchats and donations,
he could make all that money back in a year..
its an awesome deal but you have to love being on boats..
Its definitely not for everybody....
The brother I replied to is paying that much in rent. That's what I was speaking on. $2500 a month in rent for nothing to show for it in 3 years is fucking terrible. I feel sorry for this younger generation with the cost of living, thats rough and the ability to own property being harder to obtain.
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Good point and shit is out of control right now, especially in bigger metropolitan areas. I think a lot of people were looking at it like they're easily playing $2500 a month in rent, electric, water, gas, groceries, renter's insurance, wifi, etc. At least they'd get to travel this way. But then again, the person who can afford to put the $30k-45k down on the cruise is in a different bracket.
They will never get their money back. Like dude said... 3k a month is not nearly enough to cover an all inclusive stay. Plus, they never even had a ship. This was a sucker's bet and people fell for it. Over 24 million gone. They going to file bankruptcy and start new companies.
Shit seems more like "bucket list" shit for people with disposable incomes vs something economical for the average person. Even if I was retired, I wouldn't blow my savings like that.
them fuckin Nigerians done created an AI ship and got ey'body for their bread.....You don’t have a ship.
The three-year cruise is canceled because the ship doesn’t exist.
Fri, November 24, 2023 at 7:27 AM PST
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They had signed up for the experience of a lifetime: three years traveling the world from the comfort of a cruise ship, at prices that rivaled regular living expenses.
But now the dream is over for passengers who’d signed up for Life at Sea Cruises’ inaugural three-year voyage. After weeks of silence, the company has acknowledged to passengers that it has no ship, and has canceled the departure, vowing to refund those who’d signed up for cruises costing up to hundreds of thousands of dollars.
The cruise was originally due to depart Istanbul, Turkey, on November 1, but shortly before that date, departure was postponed to November 11 and relocated to Amsterdam in the Netherlands, and then to November 30, again from Amsterdam. But on November 17 – less than two weeks before the third departure date – passengers were informed the cruise was off.
Some of the passengers who booked the 111 cabins sold are still in Istanbul, having made their way there ahead of the original departure date. Others say they have nowhere to return to, having sold or rented out their homes in anticipation of the round-the-world voyage, as well as jettisoning their possessions.
Most have spent tens of thousands of dollars on what was meant to be the experience of a lifetime, and now face a wait of at least several months to get their money back. The company has said it will make repayments in monthly installments, starting from mid-December and completing repayments in late February. It has also offered to pay for accommodation until December 1 and flights home for anyone now stranded in Istanbul. But some say they have no homes to return to.
“There’s a whole lot of people right now with nowhere to go, and some need their refund to even plan a place to go – it’s not good right now,” said one passenger, who wished to remain anonymous until they get their promised refund.
Running aground
Life at Sea Cruises had been planning to buy the AIDAaura, a ship retired this summer by AIDA Cruises, a German subsidiary of Carnival Corp. It was due to be rechristened as the MV Lara. The company had originally slated the sale to go through by the end of September, before working on the ship in dry dock in Germany, then renovating it before sailing to Istanbul to start the cruise.
But after six weeks of uncertainty, during which Life at Sea repeatedly told guests that the sale was taking longer than planned, on November 16 another company, Celestyal Cruises, announced that it had bought the AIDAaura.
A day later, Life at Sea’s former CEO Kendra Holmes – who had resigned days earlier and said she was not speaking on behalf of the parent company, Miray Cruises – recorded a 15-minute video for passengers, admitting that the cruise would not be going ahead. It’s unclear why Holmes was chosen to make the announcement, which was provided to CNN by a passenger. She has declined to comment to CNN.
Forty eight hours after Holmes’ video, passengers received a message from Vedat Ugurlu, the owner of Miray Cruises, which owns Life at Sea. Declaring himself “extremely sorry for the inconvenience,” he confirmed the cruise would not be departing as planned. The reason: they couldn’t afford the ship.
In his message, Ugurlu claimed that “Miray is not such a big company to afford to pay 40-50 million for a ship,” but that it had “presented the project to investors, and had official approval from some of them to buy the vessel.”
He said that while the company had made the down payment for the ship, the investors “declined to support us further due to unrest in the Middle East.”
Hamas attacked Israel on October 7, a week after the ship’s sale was originally supposed to have concluded. Life at Sea didn’t respond to a query about what prior unrest they were referring to that could have impeded the completion of the transaction.
Ugurlu also told passengers that day that the company then tried and failed to buy another ship, and that it was working on a third.
“If we will not be able to sail on December 1, we will offer you to sail on another departure date or refund all the payments within a short schedule,” he wrote. “We have tried everything to make your dreams come true and we will continue to do so.”
He added that the company could, in theory, launch the cruise on the MV Gemini, Miray’s smaller ship which it had originally planned for the voyage, before deciding it was too small.
“We choose not to because we have promised you a larger, newer vessel,” he wrote. The Gemini is at the heart of a defamation lawsuit brought by Miray against former managing director of Life at Sea Cruises, Mikael Petterson, who was one of several employees to split from the team in May. The lawsuit states that Petterson called the ship “unseaworthy” – a claim that Miray vehemently denied.
Ups and downs
Miray Cruises had vowed to renovate the AIDAaura ship. - Life At Sea Cruises
Just a day after Ugurlu’s glimmer of hope, another staff member of Life at Sea, Chief Operating Officer Ethem Bayramoglu messaged passengers to confirm that the cruise was off. “In case we weren’t clear, the Life at Sea cruise trip is canceled,” Bayramoglu wrote, giving instructions on the refund process, and how passengers can retrieve “pods” full of their belongings – which they’d shipped in advance of the cruise.
Yet at the same time, Bayramoglu added, the company “intendto honor our commitments.”
“Although we are all disappointed and frustrated that we didn’t sail this time, it is important to us that you feel positive overall about your experience with us,” the message reads. “Vedat in particular is still hopeful that Miray will someday soon have an option for you to consider.”
Bayramoglu subsequently met with stranded passengers in Istanbul to help plan their returns home.
Stormy watersWould-be cruisers – who wanted to remain anonymous until their refunds come through – have told CNN of their shock and dismay that the trip has been canceled. Some had sold their homes or wound up businesses to join the cruise.
“I’m very sad, angry and lost,” said one. “I had the next three years of my life planned to live an extraordinary life, and now [I have] nothing. I’m having a hard time moving forward.
“I was proud and feeling brave, now I don’t trust anyone or anything. I know it’ll work out and life will go on, but I’m uncertain of the direction.”
Another said they felt “incredibly sad and incredibly betrayed.”
“The company seems to have no consideration about what they’ve done to our lives,” they said.
“I never imagined I’d be in this position as a senior citizen.”
They also lamented the loss of community that had been built in the run-up to the cruise: “I was looking forward to building friendships – that’s what made it different from a regular cruise. We were all of the same mindset and all started with the same thing in common.”
A third, speaking just before the cruise was confirmed as canceled, said they were feeling “let down, deceived and betrayed.”
Jumping ship
The cruise had promised to whisk passengers around the globe for three years. - Life At Sea Cruises
In the meantime, Life at Sea’s erstwhile CEO, Kendra Holmes, who resigned last week, claims she’s planning to offer a new long-term cruise with a different company.
In her 15-minute video address to Life at Sea passengers on Friday – despite having already resigned from the company – she solicited interest in a long-term, round-the-world cruise offered by a new company that she’ll be working with, which she named as HLC Cruises.
Holmes didn’t respond to questions from CNN, but a spokesperson for HLC Cruises, who said they were on the company board, confirmed Holmes was the company’s new CEO and told CNN: “We have nothing to do with Life at Sea, we do not want our name to be associated with them, but we are working on something and are trying to help people who are left without homes if we can.” Its website currently advertises “boutique cruise liners” selling duty free gold bullion, diamonds and gems onboard.
Holmes told stranded Life at Sea passengers that if 60 or 70 of them “transferred” to the new company, they would be able to “get something going” by the first week of December, and already had approval from the HLC board to do so.
The company would get a temporary ship to sail for three or four months, she said, while purchasing a permanent vessel for a longer voyage to start next year. If Life at Sea passengers didn’t take up the offer, she said, they’d also be looking to launch a long-term cruise in October 2024.
“There’s a lot of ships out there so we’ll get something in place probably early next week then start looking for a permanent vessel,” she said on November 17 – before updating them via social media 72 hours later that the offer of a temporary cruise was, in fact, off, and that HLC was “targeting an official start date sometime in March.”
“People got their hopes up once again only to be dashed a few days later – I’m surprised no one in the group has had a heart attack,” said one would-be passenger.
Meanwhile, Villa Vie Residences – the company set up by Petterson and the other former Life at Sea staffers who left in May to start their own rival business – is promising low deposits and guaranteed introductory rates for anyone who wants to join them. They do not as yet have a ship or a launch date, either.
Life at Sea Cruises and Miray Cruises did not respond to specific questions from CNN, but sent a statement from Ugurlu addressed to passengers citing “investor withdrawal” causing “challenges” to the project. The letter was sent to CNN November 21 and spoke about a potential upcoming cruise date – despite the cruise having already been canceled.
“While we’re in talks to acquire a similar vessel, if the December 1 sail is jeopardized, we offer alternative departure dates or expedited refunds,” said the statement, which went on to describe the refund process.
“As we navigate these challenges, we are actively working on creating alternative plans for the future, ensuring an unforgettable experience for our valued community,” it concluded.
“I regret any inconvenience and assure you of our commitment.”
One passenger from the failed cruise, however, is feeling more than inconvenienced.
“I’m in a state of disbelief that they’ve done this to us,” they said, adding that staff had started out “eager and confident, and then the past few months just slowly disappeared.”
“I can’t even begin to wrap my head around the disappointment of losing this opportunity,” they said.
“I don’t think they will ever understand how much damage they’ve caused us.”
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The three-year cruise is canceled
Life at Sea Cruises – which was due to launch its three-year round-the-world cruise in November – has called it off. There’s no ship, and passengers are being offered refunds – though the company says it still wants to launch a long-term cruise in the future.www.yahoo.com
How much do you tip housekeeping and the waitstaff for something like this?!
How would you even have enough crew members to make this sustainable for over a year, let alone 3 years?!
depending on what level you are on, if you are just like in a regular cabin, youd most likely spend about
an extra one to two thousand a year on tips, if you rolling in a fuckin corner cabin suite with huge balcony...
You may have to double that..
but fo real tho, if you go on any type of excursion you should have TIP money if you expect GOOD service.
I personally have about two hundred dollars set aside a week for tips.... and thats without tours. If Im doing a few tours,
I would double that amount.
I have no idea why people think good service should be free!
most people dont tip....
they so caught up in their own world they forget the people thats helping
to make it a pleasant reality... usually five dollars a pop, I definitely will slide a manager
fifty dollars to ensure I get a nice clean room... many a times I paid room rates for a Suite
with a view.
I was thinking about it like it may have been something I would've done when I was seriously depressed. I was trying to go overseas to teach just to get away from everything so if I had the bread this would've been right up my alley. But then my goofy ass would've been stuck in Istanbul looking for a cruise ship that was never bought.
The American dream
Wait HOL UP....it was a muthafuckin...
MEGA
GRIFT???????
Nah ....no way they fucked them over like that...
Yeah I'm gonna need some travel insurance before doing some shit like this
MEGA
GRIFT???????
Nah ....no way they fucked them over like that...
Yeah I'm gonna need some travel insurance before doing some shit like this